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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1500 on: March 15, 2014, 12:36:19 PM »
@ Congo: Serious stuff. What you described is sexual harassment (the text messages) and assault (when he grabbed you). That man needs to be held accountable for his actions. No question. I would not be surprised that this traumatic experience is a factor in moulding your views and opinions about the gay community. I just hope that your support network is helpful in dealing with the event and that you have found ways to cope. Best wishes man. From what I have heard from support groups who help women in equivalent situations, many victims have a difficult time coming to terms with what happened to them.

Realize though, what you described is not representative of homosexuals per se. And that it is exactly the stereotype that is perpetuated by the anti-gay activists when it comes to their agenda.

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If true, it's clear the lecturer is in the initial wrong ...  The lecturer is gay, but his actions were not the product of this, just like rape is not a crime of heterosexuality if it's a woman being assaulted by a man. ...  but it wasn't his homosexuality that made him sexually assault Congo, just as heterosexuality is no the cause of the sexual assault of women


All the LBGT community want is to live a life free from hate and bigotry.  That is their Agenda.

The anti-gay activists are hell bent on linking sexual assault, pedophilia and other sex crimes to homosexuals. Homosexuals are no more or less prone to committing sex crimes as their heterosexuals counterparts.

@ Qmire: show me peer-reviewed studies that demonstrate that homosexuals are predisposed to committing sex crimes at higher rates that heterosexuals. Until I see that, I will not hold much faith in generalized statements and anecdotes, skewed by personal biases, prejudices and related agendas, that portray homosexuals as evil sexual deviants.
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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1501 on: March 15, 2014, 01:12:41 PM »
Answer me this first were you always of the belief that being gay is fine , since a teen or were you desensitized into it being normal from media?

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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1502 on: March 15, 2014, 02:01:05 PM »
@Pecan. I have lived away and interacted with gay people there do seem to live very productive lives. I have never had any problems with gay people away. I'm talking about people who come to school with pink highlights in their hair gay. They go about their lives and don't seem to bother anyone etc. I have never been hit on by a gay person while I was away. No one ever tried to sneak up on me or anything like that. My beef is with this hidden community here at home. The ones at home here tend to be aggressive and out of place at times. I am not the only person who has been harrassed by members of this community. The women also do it as well. I have heard about girls being touched and kissed by other girls on the sly etc. I don't know if its' the trini in them that makes them so aggressive or frontish but the people of the community are definitely more aggressive than the ones I have encountered overseas. What I honestly can't stand is not knowing. That's why I say they are "conveniently gay". They parade themselves for carnival etc, they get close to the women as make up artists etc but get them to march for their own rights, they become invisible.

PS. My action against the lecturer wasn't a result of him being gay. It was more a result of him becoming aggressive and threatening to me. Had it been some other person who put a knife to my throat and stole my phone I would have reacted the exact same way. He crossed the line and needed to be dealt with in a serious manner. It's a jungle in this island and I make no apologies for my action.

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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1503 on: March 15, 2014, 02:03:33 PM »
Answer me this first were you always of the belief that being gay is fine , since a teen or were you desensitized into it being normal from media?

Sure. But I might ramble on a bit ...

As a pre-adolescence growing in T&T, we used to make jokes about 'buller men". In fact I though the word "buller" was only associated with having sex with a man (somebody on this forum a few yeas ago said it applied to heterosexual sex as well). In Canada, the jokes continued but I can say the issue of homosexuality was never something that I consciously though about. The same way it was never an issue of someone being tall or short, fat or thin, black or white, male or female. I would comment on the differences, make jokes about the differences but never consciously discriminated against anyone. I have to thank my parents for this attitude and they came from bush in Trinidad.

In the early '80s, though my wife's workplace, I was introduced to more gay folk - men and women and again, it was never an issue. But I began to think more on the issue when my wife's cousin came out as being gay to us in early '90s.  He described growing up in Jamaica and how he always knew that he was "different' from the other boys but could not define what it was. When he emigrated to the USA, he eventually realized he was gay. And here is the interesting part, as soon as he could, he left home and moved across the country so that he would not have to tell his father and brothers that he was gay; they simply would not accept it. His experiences began to shape my thoughts - the media had nothing to do with it.

I have since become acquainted with openly gay men and women. They want love and acceptance as much as anyone else wants. Being gay is not about physical sex as so many people insist. It has nothing to do with "shit stabbing" as Sam so eloquently put it. yes there are elements in the gay community that engage in risky behaviour - but no more so than some many heterosexuals - just look at the number of escort services, massage parlors and other aspects of the sex trade that cater to heterosexuals. I mean, there is a web site (Ashley Madison) that caters to people who want to have extramarital affairs!

These folk do not prey on anyone. The media has not been the major factor that influenced by opinion. The second factor that shaped my opinion was religion and those in the Anglican Church of Canada. These priests have been leading the charge for same sex acceptance within the church. The question they raised was: "what did it mean to be around and experience Jesus?" Jesus was an includer: adulterers, tax collectors, racially impure, the mentally ill, etc. Therefore, it is unreasonable and inconsistent to suggest that Jesus would have excluded gays and lesbians.

So my "desensitization" as you put it if far from my reality. In fact, I am more sensitive to those who are being ostracized just because of who they are.  And perhaps that is why I have a difficult time staying away from the threads.

The use of the Bible or Natural Law to argue against Gays is just a smoke screen for those who, for whatever reason, cannot come to grip with the diversity within our society.
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« Reply #1504 on: March 15, 2014, 02:19:38 PM »
@Pecan. I have lived away and interacted with gay people there do seem to live very productive lives. I have never had any problems with gay people away. I'm talking about people who come to school with pink highlights in their hair gay. They go about their lives and don't seem to bother anyone etc. I have never been hit on by a gay person while I was away. No one ever tried to sneak up on me or anything like that. My beef is with this hidden community here at home. The ones at home here tend to be aggressive and out of place at times. I am not the only person who has been harrassed by members of this community. The women also do it as well. I have heard about girls being touched and kissed by other girls on the sly etc. I don't know if its' the trini in them that makes them so aggressive or frontish but the people of the community are definitely more aggressive than the ones I have encountered overseas. What I honestly can't stand is not knowing. That's why I say they are "conveniently gay". They parade themselves for carnival etc, they get close to the women as make up artists etc but get them to march for their own rights, they become invisible.

PS. My action against the lecturer wasn't a result of him being gay. It was more a result of him becoming aggressive and threatening to me. Had it been some other person who put a knife to my throat and stole my phone I would have reacted the exact same way. He crossed the line and needed to be dealt with in a serious manner. It's a jungle in this island and I make no apologies for my action.

Congo, you have been consistent with what you call the "conveniently gay" people in Trinidad and their reluctance to march for their rights. But consider this: perhaps the reason why they are not more visible is due to potential backlash they might experience in Trinidad?

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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1505 on: March 15, 2014, 02:25:21 PM »
Answer me this first were you always of the belief that being gay is fine , since a teen or were you desensitized into it being normal from media?

Sure. But I might ramble on a bit ...

As a pre-adolescence growing in T&T, we used to make jokes about 'buller men". In fact I though the word "buller" was only associated with having sex with a man (somebody on this forum a few yeas ago said it applied to heterosexual sex as well). In Canada, the jokes continued but I can say the issue of homosexuality was never something that I consciously though about. The same way it was never an issue of someone being tall or short, fat or thin, black or white, male or female. I would comment on the differences, make jokes about the differences but never consciously discriminated against anyone. I have to thank my parents for this attitude and they came from bush in Trinidad.

In the early '80s, though my wife's workplace, I was introduced to more gay folk - men and women and again, it was never an issue. But I began to think more on the issue when my wife's cousin came out as being gay to us in early '90s.  He described growing up in Jamaica and how he always knew that he was "different' from the other boys but could not define what it was. When he emigrated to the USA, he eventually realized he was gay. And here is the interesting part, as soon as he could, he left home and moved across the country so that he would not have to tell his father and brothers that he was gay; they simply would not accept it. His experiences began to shape my thoughts - the media had nothing to do with it.

I have since become acquainted with openly gay men and women. They want love and acceptance as much as anyone else wants. Being gay is not about physical sex as so many people insist. It has nothing to do with "shit stabbing" as Sam so eloquently put it. yes there are elements in the gay community that engage in risky behaviour - but no more so than some many heterosexuals - just look at the number of escort services, massage parlors and other aspects of the sex trade that cater to heterosexuals. I mean, there is a web site (Ashley Madison) that caters to people who want to have extramarital affairs!

These folk do not prey on anyone. The media has not been the major factor that influenced by opinion. The second factor that shaped my opinion was religion and those in the Anglican Church of Canada. These priests have been leading the charge for same sex acceptance within the church. The question they raised was: "what did it mean to be around and experience Jesus?" Jesus was an includer: adulterers, tax collectors, racially impure, the mentally ill, etc. Therefore, it is unreasonable and inconsistent to suggest that Jesus would have excluded gays and lesbians.

So my "desensitization" as you put it if far from my reality. In fact, I am more sensitive to those who are being ostracized just because of who they are.  And perhaps that is why I have a difficult time staying away from the threads.

The use of the Bible or Natural Law to argue against Gays is just a smoke screen for those who, for whatever reason, cannot come to grip with the diversity within our society.
Yep seems about right .I pretty much feel the same way ,in the mid eighties I use to here some atrocious stories of gay men being assaulted in trini ,just for been gay ,even then without media it just sound cruel an inhumane  .
Some of these boys where just weak,harmless and innocent and gay .
But obviously this world cant be simple ,innocent ,black and white ,harmless and naive as our 2 little post now can it .It surely must be much more sinister ,especially coming to something as taboo and ancient as Homosexuality  .
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« Reply #1506 on: March 15, 2014, 03:00:56 PM »
@Pecan. I have lived away and interacted with gay people there do seem to live very productive lives. I have never had any problems with gay people away. I'm talking about people who come to school with pink highlights in their hair gay. They go about their lives and don't seem to bother anyone etc. I have never been hit on by a gay person while I was away. No one ever tried to sneak up on me or anything like that. My beef is with this hidden community here at home. The ones at home here tend to be aggressive and out of place at times. I am not the only person who has been harrassed by members of this community. The women also do it as well. I have heard about girls being touched and kissed by other girls on the sly etc. I don't know if its' the trini in them that makes them so aggressive or frontish but the people of the community are definitely more aggressive than the ones I have encountered overseas. What I honestly can't stand is not knowing. That's why I say they are "conveniently gay". They parade themselves for carnival etc, they get close to the women as make up artists etc but get them to march for their own rights, they become invisible.

PS. My action against the lecturer wasn't a result of him being gay. It was more a result of him becoming aggressive and threatening to me. Had it been some other person who put a knife to my throat and stole my phone I would have reacted the exact same way. He crossed the line and needed to be dealt with in a serious manner. It's a jungle in this island and I make no apologies for my action.

*Amateur psychiatrist hat* That anxiety in not knowing either way is probably a product of the douche-bag lecturer - knowing lets you put your guard up and feel distant from them. The question you should ask is - "Why does it matter if they're gay or not?" If they're not a sexual assaulter then it won't matter either way - the issue isn't whether they're gay, but whether they're likely to assault you.

Maybe ask yourself "Why don't they come out as gay?" - that's a more productive question. How would you feel if your family member came out gay? Brother/Sister? Father? Son?

If your response is a highly negative one, then you know why they stay "on the down low".

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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1507 on: March 16, 2014, 11:09:12 PM »
Looks like this thread has turned into a discussion about down low gays and that culture. That kind of thing is disturbing. Didn't they have some court case recently where a fella kill another that made a pass at him and de court agree that it was temporary insanity and free de fella?

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« Reply #1508 on: March 17, 2014, 08:26:33 AM »
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If true, it's clear the lecturer is in the initial wrong- relationships between students and lecturers are usually banned by universities as they compromise the student-lecturer relationship and undermine the unbiased of your marking. That's even before we get to the other problems here.

I'm not interested in that as much as I am the question at hand - homosexuality. The lecturer is gay, but his actions were not the product of this, just like rape is not a crime of heterosexuality if it's a woman being assaulted by a man. Sure, they require one-another - clearly a heterosexual lecturer wouldn't have approached him (depending on your definition of sexuality - a Kinsey scale renders this point less important as sexuality changes over time), but it wasn't his homosexuality that made him sexually assault Congo, just as heterosexuality is no the cause of the sexual assault of women

In inching towards Pecan's post related to this post ... please clarify the bolded.


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« Reply #1509 on: March 17, 2014, 09:59:29 AM »
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If true, it's clear the lecturer is in the initial wrong- relationships between students and lecturers are usually banned by universities as they compromise the student-lecturer relationship and undermine the unbiased of your marking. That's even before we get to the other problems here.

I'm not interested in that as much as I am the question at hand - homosexuality. The lecturer is gay, but his actions were not the product of this, just like rape is not a crime of heterosexuality if it's a woman being assaulted by a man. Sure, they require one-another - clearly a heterosexual lecturer wouldn't have approached him (depending on your definition of sexuality - a Kinsey scale renders this point less important as sexuality changes over time), but it wasn't his homosexuality that made him sexually assault Congo, just as heterosexuality is no the cause of the sexual assault of women

In inching towards Pecan's post related to this post ... please clarify the bolded.

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Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats. It is a fundamental of taxonomy that nature rarely deals with discrete categories... The living world is a continuum in each and every one of its aspects.

While emphasizing the continuity of the gradations between exclusively heterosexual and exclusively homosexual histories, it has seemed desirable to develop some sort of classification which could be based on the relative amounts of heterosexual and homosexual experience or response in each history [...] An individual may be assigned a position on this scale, for each period in his life. [...] A seven-point scale comes nearer to showing the many gradations that actually exist.

Check the wikipedia article on this; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale His research was pretty ground-breaking and broke a lot of assumptions that were a product of Western Monotheism over the past 2000 years. Famously the Greeks didn't classify sexuality this way, and a number of societies have been more accepting about homosexuality in the past, but it's way out of my area of expertise so I won't be making any arguments from history.

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« Reply #1510 on: March 17, 2014, 01:53:24 PM »
There was nothing scientific about Kinsley's research. I fail to see why people continue to cite it.
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« Reply #1511 on: March 17, 2014, 01:54:42 PM »
There was nothing scientific about Kinsley's research. I fail to see why people continue to cite it.

Please expand - what makes you say that?

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« Reply #1512 on: March 17, 2014, 01:56:37 PM »
There was nothing scientific about Kinsley's research. I fail to see why people continue to cite it.

Please expand - what makes you say that?

Kinsey's work was largely discredited in part because he was sleeping with the test subjects, both male and female.  Your string of hits continues.

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« Reply #1513 on: March 17, 2014, 02:00:19 PM »
There was nothing scientific about Kinsley's research. I fail to see why people continue to cite it.

Please expand - what makes you say that?

Kinsey's work was largely discredited in part because he was sleeping with the test subjects, both male and female.  Your string of hits continues.

I'm not finding the same info you two have foiund - could you link me to academic papers disproving the Kinsey Scale? I only find papers that confirm or build on the findings...

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« Reply #1514 on: March 17, 2014, 02:05:07 PM »
There was nothing scientific about Kinsley's research. I fail to see why people continue to cite it.

Please expand - what makes you say that?

Kinsey's work was largely discredited in part because he was sleeping with the test subjects, both male and female.  Your string of hits continues.

I'm not finding the same info you two have foiund - could you link me to academic papers disproving the Kinsey Scale? I only find papers that confirm or build on the findings...

Yea all I'm finding are papers like this that also argue for a continum of sexuality or this one talking about its continued influence

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« Reply #1515 on: March 17, 2014, 03:30:55 PM »
There was nothing scientific about Kinsley's research. I fail to see why people continue to cite it.

Please expand - what makes you say that?

Kinsey's work was largely discredited in part because he was sleeping with the test subjects, both male and female.  Your string of hits continues.

Also due to a large portion of his research being done amongst prison populations...those findings then being extrapolated onto the general public. I mean come on...
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« Reply #1516 on: March 17, 2014, 04:18:35 PM »
There was nothing scientific about Kinsley's research. I fail to see why people continue to cite it.

Please expand - what makes you say that?

Kinsey's work was largely discredited in part because he was sleeping with the test subjects, both male and female.  Your string of hits continues.

Also due to a large portion of his research being done amongst prison populations...those findings then being extrapolated onto the general public. I mean come on...

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In response, Paul Gebhard, Kinsey's successor as director of the Kinsey Institute for Sex Research, cleaned the Kinsey data of purported contaminants,[citation needed] removing, for example, all material derived from prison populations in the basic sample. In 1979, Gebhard (with Alan B. Johnson) published The Kinsey Data: Marginal Tabulations of the 1938–1963 Interviews Conducted by the Institute for Sex Research. Their conclusion, to Gebhard's surprise he claimed, was that none of Kinsey's original estimates were significantly affected by this bias: that is, the prison population and male prostitutes had the same statistical tendency as those who willingly participated in discussion of previously taboo sexual topics. The results were summarized by historian, playwright, and gay-rights activist Martin Duberman, "Instead of Kinsey's 37% (men who had at least one homosexual experience), Gebhard and Johnson came up with 36.4%; the 10% figure (men who were "more or less exclusively homosexual for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 55"), with prison inmates excluded, came to 9.9% for white, college-educated males and 12.7% for those with less education.[6]

A simple wikipedia search would have dispelled this concern - suffice to say that criticism is about the percentage claiming to be homosexual, not the validity of the scale itself.

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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1517 on: March 17, 2014, 04:44:15 PM »
  This thread is about the president of Uganda criminalizing homos , 
 This is  Uganda business  and Uganda business alone   
 The Americans or   no one   for that matter are in a  position to lecture Uganda on morality.
 

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« Reply #1518 on: March 18, 2014, 02:49:45 PM »
  This thread is about the president of Uganda criminalizing homos , 
 This is  Uganda business  and Uganda business alone   
 The Americans or   no one   for that matter are in a  position to lecture Uganda on morality.
 

just curious .. where do you draw the line when interference or non-interference is warranted regarding policies/behaviour of foreign governments? Should other countries ignore the Russia/Crimea/Ukraine issue because that is "Russia business alone"?
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« Reply #1519 on: March 18, 2014, 04:38:00 PM »
Pecan you're playing into their hand - notice every time we refute or rubbish their arguments the topic is changed.

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« Reply #1520 on: March 18, 2014, 04:59:05 PM »

I hope you realize that there are serious differences between Islam and Christianity beyond the name by which each calls its Supreme Being.  Islam is not compatible with Christianity just as Judaism is not compatible with Christianity, given that both of those other religions deny the deity of Christ.
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« Reply #1521 on: March 18, 2014, 05:12:51 PM »
Pecan you're playing into their hand - notice every time we refute or rubbish their arguments the topic is changed.

After your invocation of Kinsey, I cede to your expertise on rubbish.

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« Reply #1522 on: March 18, 2014, 10:11:54 PM »
The only think more perfect than earthling females in the universe is the oxygen molecule .To not like them is akin to not liking oxygen and therefore not normal lol.
But we as men accept abnormalities on the planet ...like a weird fish or an ugly primate.
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« Reply #1523 on: March 19, 2014, 01:32:12 AM »
The only think more perfect than earthling females in the universe is the oxygen molecule .To not like them is akin to not liking oxygen and therefore not normal lol.
But we as men accept abnormalities on the planet ...like a weird fish or an ugly primate.

"The only thing more perfect than earthling white people in the universe is the oxygen molecule. To not like them is akin to not liking oxygen and therefore not normal lol.
But we as White men accept abnormalities on the planet ...like a weird fish or an ugly primate"

Hopefully the example shows you how insulting and prejudiced your comment comes across.

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« Reply #1524 on: March 19, 2014, 01:33:21 AM »
Pecan you're playing into their hand - notice every time we refute or rubbish their arguments the topic is changed.

After your invocation of Kinsey, I cede to your expertise on rubbish.

Yes and your rubbished it with all your immense evidence? Or was it just you talking shit again? Asylumseeker you've shown yourself to keep distance from rational arguments and reasoned debate, so I'm not exactly shocked to see you poke your head up, before receding once again.

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« Reply #1525 on: March 19, 2014, 04:04:14 AM »
Pecan you're playing into their hand - notice every time we refute or rubbish their arguments the topic is changed.

After your invocation of Kinsey, I cede to your expertise on rubbish.

Yes and your rubbished it with all your immense evidence? Or was it just you talking shit again? Asylumseeker you've shown yourself to keep distance from rational arguments and reasoned debate, so I'm not exactly shocked to see you poke your head up, before receding once again.

Fella, you should shy away from any assertion of rationality and reason. It continues to compromise your credibility. You have in very short order littered the forum with a long and broad trail of enterprising, but deficient and unsustainable propositions. Let me know if you want to be directed to that ample evidence. If anything, you're hobbling Pecan's progress. Left to your own devices, you would need Houdini.

And as regards the other item ... listen here, you're obviously not educated as to the historical record. This is the appetizer not the entree.

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« Reply #1526 on: March 19, 2014, 04:59:45 AM »
Pecan you're playing into their hand - notice every time we refute or rubbish their arguments the topic is changed.

After your invocation of Kinsey, I cede to your expertise on rubbish.

Yes and your rubbished it with all your immense evidence? Or was it just you talking shit again? Asylumseeker you've shown yourself to keep distance from rational arguments and reasoned debate, so I'm not exactly shocked to see you poke your head up, before receding once again.

Fella, you should shy away from any assertion of rationality and reason. It continues to compromise your credibility. You have in very short order littered the forum with a long and broad trail of enterprising, but deficient and unsustainable propositions. Let me know if you want to be directed to that ample evidence. If anything, you're hobbling Pecan's progress. Left to your own devices, you would need Houdini.

And as regards the other item ... listen here, you're obviously not educated as to the historical record. This is the appetizer not the entree.

Hmmmm, well I won't hold my breath :p

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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1527 on: March 19, 2014, 08:56:55 AM »
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In Greek mythology, Tiresias (/taɪˈrisiəs/; Greek: Τειρεσίας; also transliterated as Teiresias) was a blind prophet of Thebes, famous for clairvoyance and for being transformed into a woman for seven years.


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Re: Ugandan President Museveni Signs bill criminalising homosexuality
« Reply #1528 on: March 19, 2014, 09:50:51 AM »
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In Greek mythology, Tiresias (/taɪˈrisiəs/; Greek: Τειρεσίας; also transliterated as Teiresias) was a blind prophet of Thebes, famous for clairvoyance and for being transformed into a woman for seven years.


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Yup, I was more focused on the first part of that when picking the name 10 or more years ago lol.

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Anybody need a hug?
« Reply #1529 on: March 20, 2014, 06:18:54 AM »

It have a few people on this thread who need a hug.


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Not sure if you heard, but there was a big craze around the "First Kiss" video where a filmmaker set up two strangers to meet and kiss like they'd just finished drinks and were heading back to someone's apartment. The Gay Women Channel on YouTube decided to have a little fun with it. They found some mildly homophobic but open volunteers to meet gay people and have a very safe, platonic hug. The results were surprisingly heartwarming. Especially at 2:07. And 2:31. And 2:44. And then at 3:00, I

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Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.

 

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