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Interesting Read!! :o :o :o :o :o

The national security forces of Trinidad and Tobago in late 1987 included the Trinidad and Tobago Defence Force and the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, both of which were under the Ministry of National Security. The Defence Force consisted of approximately 2,130 personnel distributed among the army, the coast guard, and the air force; the Police Service included about 3,000 members, divided among the police and the fire and ambulance services.

Recruitment was voluntary, and many of the officers had been trained in Britain. In 1986 the army, the ground forces arm of the Defence Force, had 1,500 personnel organized into one infantry battalion, one reserve battalion, and one support battalion. The army had no heavy equipment or armored vehicles, and its rifles and machine guns were all of British origin. The coast guard, which was the naval arm of the Defence Force, had about 580 personnel and 13 patrol craft in 1986. The larger naval vessels included two 200-ton Swedish patrol vessels and four 100-ton Swedish Vosper patrol craft. The air force became a separate branch of the Defence Force in 1977; by 1986 it had about fifty personnel, one Cessna 402, and six helicopters, operating from bases at Piarco International Airport and Crown Point Airport.

Newspaper articles in 1986 and 1987 indicated that equipment in the armed forces was deteriorating and poorly maintained. Very few of the 150 vehicles in the Defence Force were believed to be operational in early 1987. In late 1986, four coast guard vessels were said to be inoperable, and three of the five customs and excise launches were reported to be down, with repairs delayed indefinitely because of lack of funds. At the same time, there were reports of large-scale arms smuggling into Trinidad and Tobago from Grenada, Barbados, Venezuela, Colombia, and the United States. A group of highly sophisticated "special operations" weapons-- including the Israeli Uzi, the Soviet AK-47, the 9mm semiautomatic and automatic Beretta--and even sniper rifles with an infrared lens were being sold in Trinidad and Tobago. Most households had a gun, and there was a ready market for small arms, but the final destination of the sophisticated weapons was not known.

Although the Police Service has existed since colonial times, it was not until 1943 that a local man was appointed a commissioned police officer from the ranks. In the mid-1980s, the Police Service was divided between the police and the fire and ambulance services. In 1986 the police had eight divisions--seven on Trinidad and one on Tobago. Branches included a riot control unit (called the Police Mobile Force), units for highway control and crime investigation, and a court and process unit, which was responsible for preparing court cases up to committal proceedings. Although most police personnel were trained at the Police Training School, trainee constables were occasionally sent to Britain for additional training.

Approximately 14,000 serious crimes were reported to the police in 1985, a rise of 43 percent since 1976; nonetheless, prosecutions for these crimes only rose by 700 to 2,856, and convictions fell to 550, a drop of 531. There were ninety-nine reports of murder and twelve of manslaughter in 1985, compared with sixty-eight and fourteen for the same crimes in 1976. The only convictions obtained for any of the crimes just mentioned were four murder convictions in 1976. Despite a nearly fivefold increase in prison expenditures from 1976 to 1985, the daily average number of prisoners only grew from 1,048 in 1976 to 1,110 in 1985. The number of individuals committed to prison did expand to 4,231 in 1985, an increase of 81 percent over 1976.

Drug trafficking presented serious national security problems in 1987. In April 1984, the Chambers government appointed a commission to examine the drug problem. Two years later, the commission produced the Scott Drug Report, which was suppressed by Chambers and not released until the NAR took over the government in 1987. The Scott Drug Report described an explosive increase in the use of cocaine, attributing it to Trinidad and Tobago's location on the trade route between the producers in Peru, Bolivia, and Colombia and the main market in the United States. It implicated five cabinet officials in the PNM government, as well as customs officials, bank executives, and many policemen, some of whom held senior posts. Police Commissioner Randolph Burroughs, who had been tried and acquitted in 1986 on murder and drug-related charges, resigned a few days after the Scott Drug Report was published.

Promising a national crusade against drugs, Robinson suspended fifty-three police officers, four magistrates, and a customs official and asked for stronger legislation permitting confiscation of property acquired with drug profits. He named Louis Rodriguez, a former member of the commission that prepared the Scott Drug Report, as police commissioner. Rodriguez had been working with authorities at the airport to strengthen security at Piarco International Airport, cited by the Scott Drug Report as one of the main ports of entry for cocaine. A special police task force, set up by Robinson to deal with drug trafficking, was reported to have destroyed millions of marijuana plants throughout Trinidad and Tobago and conducted dozens of raids against cocaine dealers.


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Bridget Brereton's A History of Modern Trinidad, 1783- 1962 gives a comprehensive discussion of events in Trinidad and Tobago until independence and is particularly useful on the rise of the PNM. Eric Williams's many books and speeches, especially his autobiography Inward Hunger, are invaluable in showing the thinking of the man who was the most important influence on independent Trinidad and Tobago. Jack Harewood's The Population of Trinidad and Tobago and Female Fertility and Family Planning in Trinidad and Tobago provide a good understanding of population trends. Information on health care is available in the Pan American Health Organization's Health Conditions in the Americas, 1981-1984. Supporting statistical evidence for health, education, and welfare may be found in Trinidad and Tobago's Annual Statistical Digest and Report on Education Statistics. Book-length studies on the economy of Trinidad and Tobago are few. Most research on the country appears in various academic journals. Likewise, there are few well-centralized sources of data on the economy, causing statistical variations. The best statistical and analytical annual publications on the economy are the government's Central Statistical Office's Review of the Economy and the Central Bank's Annual Report. Selwyn Ryan's many studies of politics and the electorate in Trinidad and Tobago give insight into events as seen contemporaneously. Paul Sutton's "Black Power in Trinidad and Tobago: The Crisis of 1970" describes the crisis from start to finish, and Scott B. MacDonald's Trinidad and Tobago is one of the few sources that covers the whole postindependence period. (For further information and complete citations, see Bibliography.)

Data as of November 1987



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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2006, 04:33:07 PM »
long read too boss

but inciteful none d less
now that we have mastered the language we can wield it as we may

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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2006, 05:40:42 PM »
well kinda what i was tryin to say but with more big words
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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2006, 01:36:25 PM »
long read too boss

but inciteful none d less
yeah fadder..respect :beermug:...just trying to show certain people who feel or like to say "trinidad get bad over de last 2-3 years"..that is long time de foundation for de country current crime state building.

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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2006, 01:51:55 PM »
what we seeing today in TnT is a culmination of the seeds sown many decades ago... to attempt at a resolution you have to dig deep and cut out d roots... it has to be a long term plan, no quick fix... buh trinis doh like to plan ahead (5 + yrs down d road) generally so dat might be why things keep spiraling into chaos.

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 12:28:14 PM »
Trinidad & Tobago Newsday
Wednesday, January 31 2007
TT prison population rate down



TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO’S per capita prison population continues its downward trend in contrast to a world wide upsurge in the amount of people held in penal institutions, according to a report published on Monday.

According to the World Prison Population List, published on Monday by the International Centre for Prison Studies at King’s College, London, Trinidad and Tobago’s prison population rate decreased from 307 per 100,000 of the national population in 2005 to 296 in 2006.

This continues a downward trend in the rate since 2001 when the per capita figure was estimated to be 370.

At the same time, there has been a world-wide increase in the prison population from an estimated nine million in 2005 to 9.25 million in 2006.

Trinidad and Tobago’s prison population rate, according to the report, comes in just below the median rate for Caribbean countries which is 324.

The Prison List provides up-to-date information on the global prison population and the prison population rates of 214 countries using information from national prisons administrations. The prison population rates include persons held as pre-trial detainees (remand prisoners) as well sentenced prisoners.

The United States of America has the highest prison population rate in the world (738 per 100,000), followed by Russia (611), then St Kitts and Nevis (547).

A 2002 Final Report of a Trinidad and Tobago Cabinet Appointed Task Force on Prison Reform and Transformation had warned that “the trend of imprisonment over the past 20 years” had been towards “a significant increase in the number of people incarcerated resulting in severe overcrowding and other significant management problems for the Trinidad and Tobago Prison Service.”

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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 12:40:50 PM »
who here thought this was a new thing?

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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 01:13:49 PM »
Boy 8 is time to get we ppl out ah de country yes.  Ah know it sounding stupid and ignorant but yu jus thinking bout if sumthing stupid happen do ppl we know and have real love for what we go do????  Good read
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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 01:51:13 PM »
Some seeds take a  long time to germinate and come to fruition. TNT is now reaping the harvest of the corruption and immoral practices sown a long time ago. To make matters worse some have found the proper fertilizer to make the tree produce faster.  Many more will have to die before the tree is killed. God is the answer. What you sow is what you will reap.

People need to search their hearts and make a commitment to honesty and brotherhood and the good of others. A time indeed for deep soul searching. A time to comtemplate the agonizing and perplexing questions like why am I living and what purpose do I serve.

The and other fundamental questions must invade our thoughts. There has to be some significance to life, if not then whether one dies by murder or old age doesn't really matter. Whether one comes into wealth by honest or crooked means doesn't matter. What really matters then is, how can I be master of my own universe? How can I manipulate? How can I control? How can I be the big shot? How can I make others tremble in my presence so that they will willingly give me what I want? How can I extract and extricate whatever I want from others? It doesn't matter if it's their lives or their intimacy. After all I am the master of this universe unless someone else conquer me.  But, then I don't really careThe because i was king while it lasted.

In this scenario of purpose of existence the strong, the bully, the one that creates terror will always control and do whatever he  wants to do. What about the weak? Well they really don't matter. As we are what we eat, we are also what we believe.

When those in authority truly understand the complexities of life and what governs their actions then there will be hope. Until then it's a hopeless situation.

My heart truly goes out the my people and I pray that the great God of the universe will intervene.

It's time to call on His name.

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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 01:59:21 PM »
what we seeing today in TnT is a culmination of the seeds sown many decades ago... to attempt at a resolution you have to dig deep and cut out d roots... it has to be a long term plan, no quick fix... buh trinis doh like to plan ahead (5 + yrs down d road)[/b] generally so dat might be why things keep spiraling into chaos.


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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2007, 02:50:07 PM »
what we seeing today in TnT is a culmination of the seeds sown many decades ago... to attempt at a resolution you have to dig deep and cut out d roots... it has to be a long term plan, no quick fix...

my point exactly. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2007, 06:14:33 AM »
what we are seeing is the effects of poor education and the effects of a 7 days/jump and wave culture!

all this talk about crime simmering long time is rubbish.  The culture of T&T needs to change...and whn I say culture I not referring to kaiso etc. but the way we deal with situations that arise in T&T.  We tend to react instead of being proactive.  We have developed socialist tendencies and look toward Whitehose for patronage.  Is we money....give we ah ten days...etc.

"As long as dey tiefing but running something dey good."  Allyuh remember when de Jamaar did try dey coup?  we had curfew parties and fetes,,,,,dat shows how immature and politically immature we are as a naton.  Here we had a man who murdered innocent people, tried to destroy our democracy, commited serious acts of treason, yet we find dat time in our history as a good time to hold block parties.

We use carnival as a time to express out displeasure in song and parody and after de fete done is back tuh de tings as usual.  All the murders, crime and kidnapping in T&T it take forever to hear from de red and white people in T&T..in fact is only when it ht dem directly, one ah dey frens and family get hit fuh dem to march arond de savannah.

I am sick and tired of  de old talk.  Is time to change de culture of patronage and graft and corruption in T&T...is only den we go see any meaningful change in T&T.

Yuh know what de difference is between now and 40 years ago?

De amount ah money flowing around de country.  More money more opportunity to get some without working.

Bad talk de US but crime falling dey each year....and per capita it safer here than in T&T...and dat is ah sad indictment

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2007, 11:51:52 AM »
what we are seeing is the effects of poor education and the effects of a 7 days/jump and wave culture!

all this talk about crime simmering long time is rubbish. The culture of T&T needs to change...and whn I say culture I not referring to kaiso etc. but the way we deal with situations that arise in T&T. We tend to react instead of being proactive. We have developed socialist tendencies and look toward Whitehose for patronage. Is we money....give we ah ten days...etc.

"As long as dey tiefing but running something dey good." Allyuh remember when de Jamaar did try dey coup? we had curfew parties and fetes,,,,,dat shows how immature and politically immature we are as a naton. Here we had a man who murdered innocent people, tried to destroy our democracy, commited serious acts of treason, yet we find dat time in our history as a good time to hold block parties.

We use carnival as a time to express out displeasure in song and parody and after de fete done is back tuh de tings as usual. All the murders, crime and kidnapping in T&T it take forever to hear from de red and white people in T&T..in fact is only when it ht dem directly, one ah dey frens and family get hit fuh dem to march arond de savannah.

I am sick and tired of de old talk. Is time to change de culture of patronage and graft and corruption in T&T...is only den we go see any meaningful change in T&T.

Yuh know what de difference is between now and 40 years ago?

De amount ah money flowing around de country. More money more opportunity to get some without working.

Bad talk de US but crime falling dey each year....and per capita it safer here than in T&T...and dat is ah sad indictment

very good points, the culture in itself of our people needs change, moral restoration most importantly, people doh go church no more like before, small tings like people hardly say good morning anymore, manners gone in tt, elders are no longer respected in the community, man robbing granny and killing she, chirren being raped and sodomized, those tings never happened before, its about time fellahs put down dey machine and pick up a real weapon, ah book or de bible/torah/koran/ and so on.. when ah man have tuh arm himself against his own brothers and sisters in his nation that is when it goin downhill especially in a small nation like tt.. men and women have tuh arm demselves against satan with de word of God...

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Re: This 'Crime Thing' Marinating Long Time!!It Didn't Start Overnight!!
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2007, 01:26:55 PM »
what we are seeing is the effects of poor education and the effects of a 7 days/jump and wave culture!

all this talk about crime simmering long time is rubbish.  The culture of T&T needs to change...and whn I say culture I not referring to kaiso etc. but the way we deal with situations that arise in T&T.  We tend to react instead of being proactive.  We have developed socialist tendencies and look toward Whitehose for patronage.  Is we money....give we ah ten days...etc.

"As long as dey tiefing but running something dey good."  Allyuh remember when de Jamaar did try dey coup?  we had curfew parties and fetes,,,,,dat shows how immature and politically immature we are as a naton.  Here we had a man who murdered innocent people, tried to destroy our democracy, commited serious acts of treason, yet we find dat time in our history as a good time to hold block parties.

We use carnival as a time to express out displeasure in song and parody and after de fete done is back tuh de tings as usual.  All the murders, crime and kidnapping in T&T it take forever to hear from de red and white people in T&T..in fact is only when it ht dem directly, one ah dey frens and family get hit fuh dem to march arond de savannah.


I am sick and tired of  de old talk.  Is time to change de culture of patronage and graft and corruption in T&T...is only den we go see any meaningful change in T&T.

Yuh know what de difference is between now and 40 years ago?

De amount ah money flowing around de country.  More money more opportunity to get some without working.

Bad talk de US but crime falling dey each year....and per capita it safer here than in T&T...and dat is ah sad indictment

TT, yuh open my eyes with this one. yuh right on the mark. since independence, it has been like one long "last call". these first few generations of politicians know the formula for rule but not the craft of good governance. culturally, we have the means for a wide range of reactive expression. all those details required for proactive measures - organization, discipline, planning, etc. have been consciously eschewed. seem like the only thing people take great pains to plan is next year carnival - like a prisoner getting day pass.  :-\

 

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