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Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« Reply #630 on: June 05, 2008, 09:56:45 AM »
This is what happens when yuh don't want to spend yuh paper.

When yuh want to lecture men about a rigid wage structure and wax lyrical about the experience of Arsenal.

Imagine yuh telling players about loyalty but as soon as yuh hit 30 yrs of age, is 1 yr rolling contract in yuh mc.

This is 2008 not 1988. Players nowadays want to play and win titles, they want to be rewarded handsomely for their efforts and they want some job security.

If Arsenal had move right, Flamini wasn't going a place.

         

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« Reply #631 on: June 05, 2008, 10:01:54 AM »
yeah but adebayor is a goat !   ;D
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« Reply #632 on: June 05, 2008, 10:05:02 AM »
Arsenal is a feeder club now...
...with Blacksmith, Dogfoot, Jurawan and dem

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« Reply #633 on: June 05, 2008, 10:07:16 AM »
yeah but adebayor is a goat !   ;D


         

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« Reply #634 on: June 05, 2008, 10:39:57 AM »
yeah but adebayor is a goat !   ;D




This is just another one of those rumors, but 40 Mil Euros for Ade is something Arsenal should not refuse, considering that someone like David Villa is for sale at 17 Mil.

Don't be too concerned about Hleb leaving, we might see Yaya going the other way to join up with Kolo, and we've already agreed a deal with a Hleb replacement - Nasri

If Ade stays, all Le Arse needs is Yaya, Nasri, and Zapata

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« Reply #635 on: June 05, 2008, 10:58:36 AM »
AC real gone through dread.....
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« Reply #636 on: June 05, 2008, 11:00:21 AM »
This is what happens when yuh don't want to spend yuh paper.

When yuh want to lecture men about a rigid wage structure and wax lyrical about the experience of Arsenal.

Imagine yuh telling players about loyalty but as soon as yuh hit 30 yrs of age, is 1 yr rolling contract in yuh mc.

This is 2008 not 1988. Players nowadays want to play and win titles, they want to be rewarded handsomely for their efforts and they want some job security.

If Arsenal had move right, Flamini wasn't going a place.



Hill-Wood talks tough on contracts

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8213076/Hill-Wood-talks-tough-on-contracts

Greedy football players risk plunging the game into "anarchy", according to Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood.

The Gunners supremo has backed his club's continued hard-line stance over wages amid the usual summer maelstrom of pay demands and transfer requests.

Full-back Bacary Sagna has signed an improved deal just a year after arriving at Emirates Stadium, with star midfielder Cesc Fabregas set to follow, while Emmanuel Adebayor has also been the subject of recent reports claiming he is after improved terms.

Former midfielder Mathieu Flamini meanwhile quit the club for AC Milan last month, with wages reputedly a major factor in his exit.

Hill-Wood told the Daily Star: "Nowadays, a lot of people sign four-year contracts and you heave a sigh of relief. Six months later they come marching in saying they want double the wages.

"The only answer is to tell them they are on that contract and that's it. Unless you do that, the game will become chaotic and descend into anarchy.

"I think there are very few people who have really got the tradition of the club at heart. You can name them on one hand. Actually, I can't name them on one hand and that's a great pity."
         

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« Reply #637 on: June 05, 2008, 10:08:38 PM »
thanks for the update

helb goes barca we get yaya

ade goes no where unless we get a 30plus garanteed player

bendtner wont deliver van perise will pick up an injury while on duty for holland and eduardo still wont be back til MAYBE xmas

and le cheapo wenger will dip into youth and pull out Vela and Naraztie from the reserves

to think we passed up or over looked for the following players: cech, c ronaldo, babel, van bommel, and torres just to name a few

i think there has been enough seasons where the almost isn't cutting it anymore

or maybe i am dispondent due to a quiet transfer market roumors and wil be happier after the eruos


see what happens in july/august




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« Reply #638 on: June 06, 2008, 01:36:16 PM »
Milan coy over Adebayor swoop talk

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/8216758/Milan-coy-over-Adebayor-swoop-talk

AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has refused to rule out the possibility of landing Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor.

The Rossoneri vice-president is in buoyant mood after sealing summer deals for the likes of Gianluca Zambrotta and Mathieu Flamini.
Milan also want a big-name striker this summer, and having seemingly cooled their interest in Ronaldinho, Didier Drogba and Adebayor have emerged as their top-targets.

Drogba is also set to be a target for Internazionale with Jose Mourinho now installed at their helm, so Adebayor could very well be the option Galliani opts for.

Coach Carlo Ancelotti has already admitted he would take Adebayor or Drogba, with a return for Andrei Shevchenko also a possibility.

On Adebayor, Galliani told Gazzetta dello Sport: "There is a rule that states that you can't make a private agreement with a player who is under contract with another club.

"I don't know whether a new striker will arrive from England - we will see."

Adebayor, speaking in his homeland of Togo, also admitted he was quite open about what motivates him.

"If you move, it is about money. When we were young we played because we love the game and we were passionate about it. But now, when you reach this stage you are thinking about the Champions League and big things like that," he told the Daily Telegraph.

"Whenever I come back to my country people love me. If I didn't go to Europe for money, what else would it be for?"

"If you gave me the option of playing beautiful football and winning nothing, or playing ugly and winning then obviously it would be the latter. You are judged on what you win.

"We play in a great team with a great manager, but we don't want to play beautiful football just to put smiles on the faces of the fans."


Reports in Italy suggest Galliani will lead a delegation to England on Tuesday when he will look to push ahead with a deal for one of their targets.
         

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« Reply #639 on: June 06, 2008, 01:54:21 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/05/ufnadebayor105.xml

Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor agrees move to AC Milan.

Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor has agreed a deal to join AC Milan, according to reports in Italy.

Adebayor has met with Milan officials over the past few days and has shaken hands on a move to the Italian club, but Arsenal's potential asking price could rule out a transfer.

Gazzetta dello Sport say a reported fee of around £32 million for Adebayor could prove a stumbling block for AC Milan owner Silvio Berlusconi.


I know AC Milan eh really make the most astute of buys in recent year but Adebayor.

Adebayor at any price is too muchfarless £32 million.

Something wrong with this story.


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« Reply #640 on: June 06, 2008, 05:52:25 PM »


new arsenal kit already??? i want new trophies!

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« Reply #641 on: June 06, 2008, 06:03:20 PM »
Arsenal confirmed for Amsterdam Tournament

Arsenal will defend the trophy they won at last year's Amsterdam Tournament when they return to the Dutch capital this summer.

Arsène Wenger's side beat Lazio and Ajax on their last visit to Amsterdam and will face the Dutch giants again on Friday, August 8 before playing Sevilla on Saturday, August 9. Inter Milan, with new manager Jose Mourinho, complete this year's quartet of teams.

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=492340&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Arsenal+confirmed+for+Amsterdam+Tournament

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« Reply #642 on: June 10, 2008, 05:36:46 PM »
Arsenal have won the £5m race for Cardiff star Aaron Ramsey ahead of Manchester United and Everton, with boss Arsene Wenger proving influential for the 17-year-old. (The Sun)

another promisng youngster

when we getting delivering players?

we need defenders and holding mid-fielders

we didnt have a problem scoring last year had had a problem conceding

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« Reply #643 on: June 12, 2008, 05:18:18 PM »
Arsenal have told Barcelona they want £5m and Yaya Toure (brother of Kolo) in exchange for winger Alexander Hleb. (Daily Star)

Arsenal look set to beat Manchester United to another transfer target with the Gunners favourites to land Blackburn striker Roque Santa Cruz. (Daily Mirror)

Arsenal striker Eduardo could be involved in pre-season training after making good progress in his recovery from a career-threatening injury.
The 25-year-old suffered a fractured left fibula and an open dislocation of his left ankle after a tackle by Birmingham's Martin Taylor in February.
Arsenal physiotherapist Gary Lewin said: "Hopefully, he will be back doing training during pre-season.

"We're setting no timescales. We don't want to put him under any pressure."

Lewin, who is to leave the Gunners to take up a role as head of physiotherapy with the England senior team next month, added: "We are confident Eduardo will make a full recovery."
The Croatia forward had been expected to be out of the game for nine months, but the former Dynamo Zagreb player has been doing extensive rehabilitation work in his native Brazil.

Meanwhile, midfielder Tomas Rosicky, who, like Eduardo, has been forced to miss Euro 2008 through injury, is making a good recovery after undergoing knee surgery. Lewin told the club's official website: "Tomas has had surgery on his knee and we expect him to be flying by pre-season.

"We have had some real nasty injuries and I think that is part and parcel of the game.

"Look back at the years, we have been successful and we have had luck with injuries and not picked up many nasty injuries. Hopefully that will be the case next season
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« Reply #644 on: June 12, 2008, 05:51:49 PM »
this thread worst than chucky
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« Reply #645 on: June 14, 2008, 04:57:59 AM »
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is expected to tie up a £13million deal for long-time target Samir Nasri, the Marseille midfielder, after Euro 2008. Ivory Coast international Gervinho also claims the Gunners have made inquiries to Le Mans about his availability. (PA Sport, 0635 BST)

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« Reply #647 on: June 23, 2008, 04:37:08 PM »
this thread worst than chucky

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« Reply #648 on: June 23, 2008, 05:59:38 PM »
Is Leaving Arsenal A Good Idea?
Arsenal’s apparent vulnerability leaves the Gunners trying to fend off suitors for their best players most summers. But what makes the North London club an easy target – and is it always a good career move to quit Arsene Wenger’s team? Graham Lister considers the evidence…

As the tasteless sauce of Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor's future continues to simmer above the flame of Italian and Spanish press speculation, it's time to consider a couple of questions.

Firstly, with Alexander Hleb also being courted, why do Spanish and Italian clubs seem to regard Arsenal as a vulnerable target whose cherries are always ripe for the picking?

Secondly, is the grass really that much greener beyond the Emirates?

Vulnerable Arsenal

So far, most of the mileage in the Adebayor story has been clocked up by the would-be buying clubs and the Spanish and Italian media who convey their messages. Their agenda seems to be a tried and tested one: unsettle the targets with a steady drip-feed of declarations of intent to buy them.   

You can argue that it doesn't matter how many times Barcelona or Milan say they want Adebayor or Hleb, or how earnestly they say it, because unless Arsenal decide to sell there can be no transfer. But if the players' heads are turned by all the speculation, and they become unsettled, then Arsenal are left with dissatisfied and unfocused players who may as well be offloaded/cashed-in if their hearts are no longer in it at the Emirates, irrespective of what contracts they may have signed.

Adebayor, in those quotes that have been reliably attributed to the Togolese striker, has rubbished claims that he is demanding (or begging for?) a move, and insisted he wants to stay with manager Arsene Wenger's Arsenal, talking enthusiastically about the Gunners' prospects for next season and what is needed to go the extra mile to lift a trophy or two.

Hleb has been more equivocal about his future, but Wenger himself has made it clear enough to anyone in Milan or Barcelona prepared to listen that he does not want or intend to sell Adebayor.

However, in the real world we all know that doesn't mean the player(s) won't leave this summer. Things can change with sudden and dramatic rapidity in the transfer market, and there is surely too much smoke in the latest reports for there to be no fire at the heart of the speculation. At the time of writing, and with his latest attributable quotes, the odds appear to favour an Ade adieu.

That raises the more interesting question of why Arsenal seem to be particularly vulnerable to the unsettling transfer market tactics of the top clubs on the continent. Each summer, with monotonous regularity, the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Inter and Juventus gather round the Arsenal squad like vultures anticipating a kill. Arsenal fans endured two or three consecutive summers of Real Madrid publicly courting Patrick Vieira. Then Barcelona made it clear they were determined to prise Thierry Henry away from North London.  Now the targets for the top Spanish and Italian clubs have shifted to the likes of Cesc Fabregas, Hleb, Adebayor and even (until he put an end to it by immediately signing a new long-term contract) Gael Clichy.

The clear implication is that the big continental clubs consider themselves a bigger and more attractive proposition than the Gunners.  That must infuriate many Arsenal fans, frustrate Arsene Wenger and be uncomfortable for the board at the Emirates.

Not Big Enough?

Arsenal are undoubtedly one of England's biggest clubs. Only Liverpool and Manchester United have been more successful in terms of honours won. But unlike those two North-West clubs, the Gunners have a relatively undistinguished European record and significantly have never lifted the European Cup/Champions League - by common consent the currency in which the reputations of the biggest clubs are now traded.

They may have been a tad unlucky to lose their first final in Europe's premier competition, against Barcelona in 2006, but the fact is that lose it they did. Although the Gunners are able to guarantee Champions League involvement to top players - they've qualified for eleven consecutive seasons - there may be a feeling that you won't get a coveted winners' medal in North London. That is where the likes of Real Madrid, Milan and Barcelona have a clear advantage over Arsenal..

And the fact that, despite playing such exhilarating football under Wenger, the Gunners haven't actually put a new trophy on the sideboard since 2005 also counts against them, though they have the potential to remedy that soon, and indeed came close to doing so last season.

There is an irony at the heart of top-flight European football. It's a team game, but while modern players are happy enough to win as a team, when that team - of which they are a part - fails to deliver silverware, some individuals distance themselves from the collective shortfall and talk of the need to move on to fulfil their ambitions. As long as Arsenal's campaigns have no silver linings, they are vulnerable to the Mathieu Flaminis and Hlebs using such arguments against them.

Not that success is a guarantee of stability or satisfied stars. The current Cristiano Ronaldo saga is a case in point. He has won two consecutive Premier League titles and the Champions League with Manchester United, and swept the board for the last two seasons as far as English football's individual awards are concerned. There is now a view among his apologists that he's been there and done that and wants a new challenge. Apparently Ronaldo wants to be hailed as the Fifa World Player of the Year, and sees a 'dream' move to Real Madrid as the only way of achieving that ambition because no England-based player has won that accolade.

So Arsenal can't assume that winning things will keep the predator clubs from their door. And of course they are seen as predators themselves when Wenger and his scouts continue to unearth raw, unknown talent and polish it into the sort of gems for which Europe's elite are eager to bid big money. 
 
Money, Money

Which brings us to the issue of money. Perhaps it is in this regard that Arsenal are perceived to be most vulnerable. They are a relatively conservative club, though not one afraid to embrace change, as the bold decision to depart Highbury and build a new stadium 500 yards away at Ashburton Grove amply demonstrated.  The Gunners are fiscally prudent, and the financing of the Emirates Stadium project involved incurring debt; but they have structured things in a typically prudent way, so although they are not the richest of the Premier League's Big Four, they are the most financially sound at the moment, following the foreign takeovers at the other three and the debts that those clubs are saddled with as a result.

This, though - together with Wenger's disinclination for splashing out on big-name stars, and the club's much discussed but ill-understood salary structure - has created the widespread perception that Arsenal are tight-fisted. It is a perception that works against them in a competitive market place, not only with some of the players they try to sign, but also among the players already on their books.

In the Premier League, only Chelsea (£132.8million) and Manchester United (£92.3million) spent more than Arsenal's £89.7million on wages in 2006-07, the last season for which analysts Deloitte's figures are available, so the club are not exactly cheapskates. Making European comparisons, Deloite recently revealed that the French, Italian and Spanish leagues spent about the same proportion of turnover on wages (63 per cent in 2006-07) as their counterparts in the English Premier League. The notable exception was Germany, where only 45 per cent of income went on salaries.

Yet these figures don't paint the full picture of how Arsenal compare vis-a-vis their domestic and especially continental rivals in terms of paying the top performers. The Gunners may well be right up there based on the size of their overall wage bill, but of keenest interest to individual players is how that wage bill is distributed. The charge often levelled at Arsenal is that they don't pay their top players 'enough.'  This argument received plenty of airing when the tapped-up Ashley Cole was feeling hard-done by about Arsenal's 'insulting' offer of £55,000 a week a couple of seasons ago. It was headlines again when Flamini decided to weigh anchor and sail off to Milan. And no doubt it is the underlying plot in the current story that is likely to see Adebayor and/or Hleb end up in Barcelona (or Milan).

Few people, outside the club and the players themselves, know exactly what the wage structure is at Arsenal and how much better or worse it is than those at rival clubs. But the perception is that the Gunners try to keep the differential between the lowest and highest earners in the squad as narrow as possible for the sake of team spirit and, crucially, economic viability. It seems to mean some players will periodically get disgruntled with their lot and start entertaining notions of how much better off they could be elsewhere, giving encouragement to rival clubs to start whispering in their ears - or getting the media to do so with a loud hailer.

The Sunny Side Of The Street?

Footballers like to tell us that it's not about the money but the glory. The reality is it's about both. But although cash can be a powerful motivator, most top flight players are extremely wealthy these days whatever club they are at, so at the end of the proverbial career, it's probably the medals that count – or more accurately, counting the medals.

So leaving aside the unknown factor of how much richer anyone got by leaving Arsenal, what can be said about how much more successful those who left the club became?

You can divide the players who've left Arsenal during Wenger's reign into distinct groups:
- Those who retired as Gunners (eg, Dennis Bergkamp, Tony Adams, Lee Dixon)
- Those who moved on towards the end of their careers with their best years behind them (Steve Bould, Ian Wright, Ray Parlour, Paul Merson, Martin Keown, Lauren, Nigel Winterburn, Robert Pires, David Seaman, Davor Suker, Kanu, Oleg Luzhny, Jens Lehmann, Freddie Ljungberg, Sylvain Wiltord, Sol Campbell...)
- Those who moved because they could not get into the Arsenal first team on a consistent basis, and found (or struggled to find) their level elsewhere (David Bentley, Jermaine Pennant, Matthew Upson, Lassana Diarra, Fabrice Muamba, Moritz Volz, Luis Boa Morte, Francis Jeffers, Pascal Cygan, Richard Wright, Stuart Taylor, Sebastian Larsson, Jeremie Aliadiere - plus a host of youngsters who never made the Arsenal first team or played just once or twice in the Carling Cup, such as Steve Sidwell, Graham Stack, John Halls, Anthony Stokes, etc).
- Then there is the most interesting group - those who when they left the club were thought to be moving onwards and upwards. This group includes Emmanuel Petit, Marc Overmars, Nicolas Anelka, Patrick Vieira, Thierry Henry, Edu, Giovanni van Bronckhorst, Jose Antonio Reyes, Ashley Cole, Mathieu Flamini and possibly soon, Emmanuel Adebayor and Alexander Hleb.

What A Difference A Move Made

From the above list, how many can be said to have gone on to bigger and better things post-Arsenal?  You could make a case that Sol Campbell and Kanu are enjoying an Indian Summer at Portsmouth, but another FA Cup win and a Uefa Cup campaign hardly eclipse what they achieved at Highbury.

Vieira has won the Scudetto in each of his three seasons in Italy's Serie A, though the first two of those, with Juventus and then Inter, were somewhat devalued by the Calciopoli scandal, through no fault of Vieira's, and anyway he'd already won three domestic titles with the Gunners, and has not been the driving force in Italy that he was in Wenger's team.

Petit flopped badly at Barca; Overmars fared better but not spectacularly so, and could not inspire the Catalans to any trophy success after they'd paid the Gunners £25million for him.

Bentley has flourished at Ewood Park, but with respect, Blackburn are not Arsenal, and he is now angling to leave Rovers because he craves Champions League football.       

Cole at Chelsea is not the player he was at Arsenal, and the gap he left was immediately and convincingly filled by Gael Clichy.  Pires has sparkled for Villarreal since overcoming another knee ligament injury, confirming that Wenger should have offered him the two-year deal he wanted in summer 2006; but that has to be tempered by the fact that Pires will be 35 in October, and Wenger is always looking to youth and the future.

Anelka? Yes, he won the Champions League with Real Madrid in 2000 (but only after falling out with then-coach Vicente del Bosque and being suspended by the club for 45 days for refusing to train) and a Turkish title with Fenerbahce; but looking at his overall success with seven clubs in nine seasons since leaving Arsenal, it is debatable whether he would have been better off staying longer under Wenger's guidance.

The Options

It remains to be seen whether Flamini will excel at Milan, though he goes to the San Siro with the momentum of an outstanding last season at Arsenal behind him.     

And what of Hleb and Adebayor, if they leave?  Hleb's footwork and creativity in the Gunners' midfield, alongside his pals Flamini and Fabregas, was often excellent, although his goals return remained a big disappointment. Pires, whom he essentially replaced, would average 14 goals a season from the left wing; Hleb's average is four.  If he moves to Barcelona, say, how will he be used? In a way that suits him best - or like Henry was last season, which certainly didn't play to the French striker’s strengths?

As for Adebayor, among many Arsenal fans there is a view that although he improved dramatically last season and scored an impressive 30 goals, including some real crackers, the 60 he missed were almost as significant. The point seems to be that Adebayor is far from the finished article and that if Milan or Barca are prepared to spend £22-25 million to buy him, Arsenal should take their money - especially if the player wants to leave.  Adebayor has more improving to do (20 per cent more, according to Wenger), so will he do that at Camp Nou or San Siro where the burden of expectation on him will be immense as the new big money striker?

Making your name in a particular team - in this case Arsenal - is the thing that attracts interest from so-called bigger clubs. But once the player is out of that environment, and away from the mentoring of a trusted coach (Wenger), there are no guarantees that development will continue at the same rate, or that the goods will be delivered in similar style or volume.  Along with the  money, that is a consideration the 'restless' players need to take on board as they ponder the pros and cons of leaving the Emirates.

If both players eventually insist they want to leave, Arsenal's options are to dig their heels in and keep them to their contracts; offer them big pay increases to keep them happy; or sell them for the best prices they can realise. The first option is not really viable, as keeping disillusioned players at a club can infect morale within the whole squad.

Nor is the second option sensible, because it is financially unsustainable in the long term, and could disaffect other players who will demand similar treatment.

So if push comes to shove, selling them on may be the best bet for Arsenal.

The grass may not always be greener, but players sometimes have to learn that the hard way. Nor is any player indispensable. Arsene Wenger's team look close to achieving honours, and given the Frenchman's record for finding and bringing the best out of talent, that scenario is not likely to change even if Adebayor and Hleb go this summer - especially if their sale generates funds to help bring in high calibre new recruits. The pertinent question may not be what will happen to Arsenal if they go, but what will happen to the players if they do?

Source: http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=747107

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Re: ARSENAL FOREVER
« Reply #649 on: June 23, 2008, 06:27:17 PM »
this thread worst than chucky

Or like bebe's kids, 'it does'nt die it mulitiplies'!

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« Reply #650 on: June 23, 2008, 08:42:34 PM »
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The same guy who did the Ronaldo Hitler Parody....  This one is even better...Arsenal fans will enjoy it as well...

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« Reply #651 on: June 23, 2008, 08:50:34 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTdBBVW9bTs&eurl=http://fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1199840

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The same guy who did the Ronaldo Hitler Parody....  This one is even better...Arsenal fans will enjoy it as well...


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« Reply #652 on: June 23, 2008, 09:22:58 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTdBBVW9bTs&eurl=http://fbtz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1199840

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The same guy who did the Ronaldo Hitler Parody....  This one is even better...Arsenal fans will enjoy it as well...

ah boy dais some good shit there boy  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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« Reply #653 on: June 25, 2008, 03:29:25 PM »
dat funny too!


anyone find any about chelsea??

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« Reply #654 on: July 02, 2008, 03:10:11 PM »
righty-o no more ac trying to pilfer ade

and helb talks seem to have gone cold, stupid english press and their extrapolation of small talk

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« Reply #655 on: July 02, 2008, 03:17:15 PM »
righty-o no more ac trying to pilfer ade

and helb talks seem to have gone cold, stupid english press and their extrapolation of small talk

Question Mr Stunner..

Do you blog on the Arsenal fan website?

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« Reply #656 on: July 03, 2008, 05:38:38 AM »
nope the ones i want to blog on require membership fees

plus this is where i can chat with local and regional and expat trinis who support arsenal, and dissus (argue) with those who don't


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« Reply #657 on: July 03, 2008, 05:39:50 AM »
It all began with a Frenchman. The speculation over Mathieu Flamini's future dragged raggedly on the road into the marginally warmer months before, on 5th May, the seemingly inevitable happened and Arsenal lost last season's surprise package to Milan. It was a bitter pill to swallow for Wenger ahead of what would turn out to be a challenging summer at Emirates Stadium.


Just over a fortnight later, it was confirmed that supporters will finally see Mexico international Carlos Vela in the red and white of Arsenal after the 19-year-old was granted clearance to play for the club in the 2008/09 season following three separate loan spells in Spain.


Then came a second exit, but this time it was of the expected variety. Veteran goalkeeper Jens Lehmann penned a deal with Bundesliga side Stuttgart; a move which in turn saw last season's first-choice Manuel Almunia secure the No.1 jersey again ahead of the forthcoming campaign.


May and June were largely filled with the aftermath of ice-cream enthusiast Alexander Hleb's meeting with Internazionale officials, as a number of other clubs came out of the woodwork expressing their appetite to secure the signature of the Belarus international.


The routine courting from Spain of Cesc Fabregas came and went, before Wenger continued with his policy of snapping up promising youth via the coup of Cardiff City midfielder Aaron Ramsey, 17, who snubbed offers from Manchester United and Everton.


Then came a tale of two U-turns, the first involving Samir Nasri. Among a disorientating maze of names, it was Nasri's link to North London that seemed to hold genuine threads of truth. Cue 23rd June when the Marseille playmaker's official website made a boo-boo, prematurely announcing that his switch to The Gunners had been rubber-stamped. The statement was swiftly retracted.


Emmanuel Adebayor was next to perform his very own 180. On 27th June, the African striker addressed the world's press, in that unmistakably zealous discourse, confirming his intention to see out the remaining three years of his contract. Relief for Gunners fan, albeit short-lived relief. For just an hour later there he was having a chinwag with Sky Sports News reporter Bryan Swanson, explaining that he will have sit-down-talks with the club in the coming days. Tut-tut.



What they need


Stability and loyalty. With the summer's headlines dominated by want-away players, who are finding life a struggle on £50,000-a-week, Wenger needs to strain his squad of the players he deems uncommitted to the task in hand, and in turn put right three seasons of pretty football but empty-handed nothingness with the reported £20million he has at his disposal.


A towering, no-nonsense centre-back would prove fruitful as it seems that Kolo Toure and William Gallas struggle when partnered together. Philippe Senderos' mixed bag of a career means a fresh recruit would work wonders in patching up Arsenal's weariness when dealing with the long ball.


Wide-men. With Hleb all-but vacated the bustle of North London, and Tomas Rosicky the epitome of fragility, the weight falls on the young shoulders of improving Theo Walcott and Emmanuel Eboue (a player that I feel offers less than little).


If Gilberto leaves then fresh guts in centre-midfield are required with the latest name to be thrown into the hat Werder Bremen's Amaury Bischoff. The French-born 21-year-old would be a typical signing from Wenger; a player very few would have even heard of, but a player fans will be hoping can have the same impact as the likes of last summer's unexpected additions Bacary Sagna and Eduardo.



What they'll get


Much hinges on whether Wenger deems it essential to replace Mathieu Flamini - who dovetailed with maestro Cesc Fabregas last term - with a fresh recruit, potentially Bischoff, or a promotion from within. Next season may see the Frenchman utilise the leggy Abou Diaby in his preferred central role.


In the early flutterings of the transfer chat, Wenger had hinted he would strengthen defensively, but he has since commented that this is an area he is content with. Wenger is a shrewd manipulator of the market, though, and it would be foolish to completely rule out an acquisition in this department.


The capture of Nasri seems a matter of when rather than if, so it is a case of distinguishing fact from fiction among the remaining smoke and mirrors in a bid to predict what else might occur. As mentioned, Wenger is an unpredictable fellow, and so often he springs a surprise that initially bewilders you but then grows on you in time.


Adebayor's situation is a peculiar one, with the player to-ing and fro-ing by the hour. The interested parties, Barcelona and Milan, are expected to have to pay a fee in the region of £30million for his services. Expect a replacement if the striker is shown the door.

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« Reply #658 on: July 06, 2008, 06:03:14 AM »
finaly, the truth is easier to handle

Manager Arsene Wenger has admitted that Arsenal intend to continue selling their prized assets for the next 17 years.

The Gunners sold Thierry Henry to Barcelona for over £16million last summer and re-invested £7.5m of that money on Croatia striker Eduardo.

This summer, Emmanuel Adebayor and Alexander Hleb have been linked with big-money moves away from the Emirates Stadium.

And Wenger has revealed Arsenal must continue to make a profit in the transfer market in order to cover the costs of their new stadium.
Strategy

"The strategy of the club is to sell every year and to buy less expensive players," he told the News of the World.

"We manage at Arsenal to maintain all our football ambitions - national and European - while having to free up - for 17 more years - an annual surplus of £24m to pay for our stadium.

"The club's strategy is to favour the policy of youngsters ahead of stars and to count on the collective quality of our game."

Adebayor signed a new long-term deal with Arsenal last summer but is looking for a significant wage increase to stay at the club.

Mercenaries

Barcelona have already bid £24m for the Togo international, who cost the Gunners in the region of £3m from Monaco in January 2006, while Milan are also interested in the 24-year-old striker.

Wenger also voiced his frustration at the current state of the transfer system, which he feels encourages in-form players to seek more lucrative deals elsewhere rather than honour their existing contract.

"If I had the power to change anything basic in football, it would be the transfer system which makes mercenaries of players," he added.

"If they are bad ones, they stay and, if they are good, they think only of leaving.

"I have fought for them to earn a very good living, but I impose respect for their contract upon them."

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« Reply #659 on: July 06, 2008, 08:26:18 AM »
Arsenal= selling club. Gunner now I understand why you created this thread, to keep us updated on how the sales are going.

 

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