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« Reply #5310 on: September 03, 2012, 09:37:25 PM »
dinho, yuh killin' meh....lol!  Listen, with all due respect to you, too, you complicating this and making more of this "foot-save" thing than is really necessary.  Prior to cazorla's goal, when reina got down (quickly) to save gibbs' shot, which was practically the same shot from practically the same angle as cazorla, just a tad bit more off the ground, did he make a bad decision to get his body behind the ball then, too?  You had a GK when yuh was in England.....if HE was teaching yuh to use yuh foot to make saves....well, dize a first fuh me....All the coaches I ever know or deal with, teach their GK's about getting the body behind the ball.  Dat whole foot-save ting does be more a reflex ting than anything else.  Yuh know hummuch shots dem 'keepers could save by just trapping the ball with they foot? But yuh doh see nobody doin' dat, right?  I am willing to concede that reina made an "error" because he should have gotten down quicker to the ball and I made that very clear.  It isn't because I felt he shoulda use he foot like you are saying.  The one thing I was mistaken about from the onset is that the ball hit his hand and not his elbow.  You saying he shoulda come out more on both goals.  I say he didn't really have the time, he reacted as best the plays allowed him and he got beaten....he just shoulda get down quicker on the second goal, dize all.   


"Once Reina gets into the right position he limits Cazorla's options to scoring through his legs or it has to be a very precise shot to get it inside the far post. Only other way Cazorla scoring is by doing something miraculous like roofing it at extreme pace in the near post Vs. All of these are low percentage options."

Yuh gettin' seriously tie up dey......it wouldn'ta take nothing overly "precise" to score last post or anything "miraculous" to score on the first post....these are well trained professionals, this is not TT Pro League. 


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« Reply #5311 on: September 09, 2012, 08:23:02 PM »
I agree with Mango Chow. Saying that Reina should have advanced may not apply as he did as time allowed. I can understand Omar saying this as he is a keeper and he knows that advancing narrows the angle and makes it difficult to score. These things happen in a split second and you have to make decisions quickly. I dont see that Cazorla goal as a big error either. It is highlighted because Reina has been in poor form for the past two years. Top keepers get beaten on easier shots, Cech who is a much better keeper than Reina got beaten on a few in the past few years much simpler to save than Cazorla's shot. Tim Howard and Shay Given also guilty of this. It was a bullet by Cazorla!

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« Reply #5312 on: September 15, 2012, 08:36:43 AM »
Wenger might know a thing or two about football...
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« Reply #5313 on: September 15, 2012, 08:41:12 AM »
4-0 two own goals. Southampton is completely demoralized.
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« Reply #5314 on: September 15, 2012, 09:05:00 AM »
If Arsene had bought experienced quality players like he buying now when Arsenal had all dem young players, Arsenal would have won a few trophies already. Like Fergie his stubbourness dos sometimes get in the way of things being better.

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« Reply #5315 on: September 15, 2012, 10:03:14 AM »
If Arsene had bought experienced quality players like he buying now when Arsenal had all dem young players, Arsenal would have won a few trophies already. Like Fergie his stubbourness dos sometimes get in the way of things being better.

Too early to say that, but it is a good argument. Many players matured at Arsenal and choose to leave. But yes if he bought some experience while they were there, maybe they would have stayed. However, the bottom line all left Arsenal for the money. Regardless of what they said in the media.
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« Reply #5316 on: September 15, 2012, 10:10:15 AM »
Nice game, g'vino played very well and Ox like he had a chip on his shoulder...lol...we'll take it.
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« Reply #5317 on: September 15, 2012, 10:14:53 AM »
If Arsene had bought experienced quality players like he buying now when Arsenal had all dem young players, Arsenal would have won a few trophies already. Like Fergie his stubbourness dos sometimes get in the way of things being better.

Too early to say that, but it is a good argument. Many players matured at Arsenal and choose to leave. But yes if he bought some experience while they were there, maybe they would have stayed. However, the bottom line all left Arsenal for the money. Regardless of what they said in the media.

My point is that Arsenal could have benefited from having more experienced players in their side when they had young talents like the ones who ended up leaving. Versus grooming a side of young players to win together and depending on young players to win match in and match out. No matter how good those young players were you still need experienced heads in a side/changing room to show how to win and be a professional. Arsene experimented and loss.

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« Reply #5318 on: September 15, 2012, 10:33:12 AM »
If Arsene had bought experienced quality players like he buying now when Arsenal had all dem young players, Arsenal would have won a few trophies already. Like Fergie his stubbourness dos sometimes get in the way of things being better.

Too early to say that, but it is a good argument. Many players matured at Arsenal and choose to leave. But yes if he bought some experience while they were there, maybe they would have stayed. However, the bottom line all left Arsenal for the money. Regardless of what they said in the media.

My point is that Arsenal could have benefited from having more experienced players in their side when they had young talents like the ones who ended up leaving. Versus grooming a side of young players to win together and depending on young players to win match in and match out. No matter how good those young players were you still need experienced heads in a side/changing room to show how to win and be a professional. Arsene experimented and loss.

Nobody will argue with that! I think he also should have had someone like Bold at his side earlier. Pat Rice, from what I understand was not a person to speak openly. Already they look more organized defensively and are playing faster once they win possession.
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« Reply #5319 on: September 15, 2012, 10:35:35 AM »
If Arsene had bought experienced quality players like he buying now when Arsenal had all dem young players, Arsenal would have won a few trophies already. Like Fergie his stubbourness dos sometimes get in the way of things being better.

Too early to say that, but it is a good argument. Many players matured at Arsenal and choose to leave. But yes if he bought some experience while they were there, maybe they would have stayed. However, the bottom line all left Arsenal for the money. Regardless of what they said in the media.

My point is that Arsenal could have benefited from having more experienced players in their side when they had young talents like the ones who ended up leaving. Versus grooming a side of young players to win together and depending on young players to win match in and match out. No matter how good those young players were you still need experienced heads in a side/changing room to show how to win and be a professional. Arsene experimented and loss.

Nobody will argue with that! I think he also should have had someone like Bold at his side earlier. Pat Rice, from what I understand was not a person to speak openly. Already they look more organized defensively

Yep. They look like a more allround, hardworking side for the first time in years.

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« Reply #5320 on: September 15, 2012, 11:20:06 AM »
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« Reply #5321 on: September 20, 2012, 01:46:53 PM »
Jack Wilshere trained today with the First Team for the first time in 14 months.

Frimpong back with the squad too.
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« Reply #5322 on: September 20, 2012, 02:25:54 PM »
If Arsene had bought experienced quality players like he buying now when Arsenal had all dem young players, Arsenal would have won a few trophies already. Like Fergie his stubbourness dos sometimes get in the way of things being better.

Too early to say that, but it is a good argument. Many players matured at Arsenal and choose to leave. But yes if he bought some experience while they were there, maybe they would have stayed. However, the bottom line all left Arsenal for the money. Regardless of what they said in the media.

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« Reply #5323 on: September 22, 2012, 07:24:21 AM »
trinigunners meeting at toppers grand bazar tomor for all interested...
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« Reply #5324 on: September 23, 2012, 10:52:53 AM »
well done arsenal alyuh showing some fight
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« Reply #5325 on: September 23, 2012, 11:32:31 AM »
And the thread remains silent. Hmmm
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« Reply #5326 on: September 23, 2012, 01:44:26 PM »
And the thread remains silent. Hmmm

Facebook is where dem Arsenal people say dey run to. Ah want tuh see if Arsenal win the league if dey will start postin again.

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« Reply #5327 on: September 23, 2012, 02:41:34 PM »
Today the commentator went on and on about Arsenal giving up a goal on a corner due to zonal marking. yet when Arsenal score on Man City who were suppose to be man marking, he eh say squat.

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Good fighting spirit & still not afraid to attack away from home.
Diaby was poor today
Cazzola is a serious baller always wanting to be on the ball. Dangerous like hell!
Best game I have seen from Metersaka
Gervinho must be frustrating to play with. Dangerous, predictable & wasteful  :frustrated:
Wenger have rose coloured glasses when it comes to Ramsey. Though he look better when he moved central
Walcott! what more can one say!
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« Reply #5328 on: September 23, 2012, 04:49:33 PM »
Today the commentator went on and on about Arsenal giving up a goal on a corner due to zonal marking. yet when Arsenal score on Man City who were suppose to be man marking, he eh say squat.

You can't be mad at that... no inconsistency there in my mind.  His point was that zonal marking is a more error-fraught system than man-marking.  Whether you agree with him or not.  Heard the same thing said about Liverpool for years under Rafa.  Others have pet peeves when you don't put men on the line.

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« Reply #5329 on: September 24, 2012, 04:09:26 PM »
Today the commentator went on and on about Arsenal giving up a goal on a corner due to zonal marking. yet when Arsenal score on Man City who were suppose to be man marking, he eh say squat.

You can't be mad at that... no inconsistency there in my mind.  His point was that zonal marking is a more error-fraught system than man-marking.  Whether you agree with him or not.  Heard the same thing said about Liverpool for years under Rafa.  Others have pet peeves when you don't put men on the line.

Not mad at all. Just thought it was an ideal situation to show the weaknesses of both systems of dealing with corners. In reality, Man City had a significant height advantage and regardless of the marking used, City more than likely would have had chances of corners (or any set plays), it is after all one of their main strengths.
What was interesting also was that City had 9 corners & scored 1, while Arsenal had four and scored 1.  :waiting:
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« Reply #5330 on: September 29, 2012, 06:29:54 AM »
Manchester supporter not supposed to be bumping alyuh thread man. Stueps.

1-1 nice equaliser from arsenal
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« Reply #5331 on: September 29, 2012, 06:38:44 AM »
Again, shambolic defending from a set piece. Nice equaliser...
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« Reply #5332 on: September 29, 2012, 06:54:45 AM »
Arsenal's game tuh take. They moving the ball well against Chelski but Ramsey and poor decision making killin dem.

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« Reply #5333 on: September 29, 2012, 07:03:53 AM »
Arsenal's game tuh take. They moving the ball well against Chelski but Ramsey and poor decision making killin dem.

Footballing wise Arsenal look better & show more adventure, but dam they are shakey on set plays. Two goals on set plays already today, one last game.

Ramsey for me is a player who should come off the bench (at best). Agreed he makes far to many poor decisions in possession.
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« Reply #5334 on: September 29, 2012, 07:09:19 AM »
Arsenal's game tuh take. They moving the ball well against Chelski but Ramsey and poor decision making killin dem.

Footballing wise Arsenal look better & show more adventure, but dam they are shakey on set plays. Two goals on set plays already today, one last game

Yeah, they still clueless. Arsene try tuh hide Ramsey out on the flanks but Diaby's injury forced him back in the middle and the boy killin the run! I hope for his sakes it was the injury that ruined his abilities and he is not a natural shithound! He have tuh eat bench once all midfielders healthy!

Torres ahs tuh be one of the clumsies players with such technical abilities, never see a fella stumble and fall down so much when in attack.
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« Reply #5335 on: September 29, 2012, 07:36:40 AM »
Giroud better not be another Chimak (bad spelling). These players who can't produce under presssure! :banginghead:

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« Reply #5336 on: September 29, 2012, 07:45:00 AM »
Giroud better not be another Chimak (bad spelling). These players who can't produce under presssure! :banginghead:

Ramsey injury will oviously have a psychological effect & its hard to come back from such a horrific injury
Tough game for him (Giroud) to come into and the extra touch he took on the missed chance, is usually the mark of a player that
lacks confidence.
Cazolla had 3 good chances that on another day he would have scored.
Chelsea were far better organized & their midfield worked well on the defensive transition.
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« Reply #5337 on: September 29, 2012, 07:46:08 AM »
All that money and they won't buy better players, Arsenal team of the 90's and early 2000 was poison. Berchamp, Henry, viera, seaman etc. Solid team.
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« Reply #5338 on: September 29, 2012, 07:50:37 AM »
Giroud better not be another Chimak (bad spelling). These players who can't produce under presssure! :banginghead:

Ramsey injury will oviously have a psychological effect & its hard to come back from such a horrific injury
Tough game for him (Giroud) to come into and the extra touch he took on the missed chance, is usually the mark of a player that
lacks confidence.
Cazolla had 3 good chances that on another day he would have scored.
Chelsea were far better organized & their midfield worked well on the defensive transition.

Chelsea did well defensively but I don't get Arsenal's reluctance to attack from the wide area with Gervinho and Ox. They let Chelski's right back have an easy game today and Cole. Chelski look better defensively wiithout both Mkel and Lampard in midfield, less gaps and more quickness.

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« Reply #5339 on: September 29, 2012, 08:10:39 AM »
All that money and they won't buy better players, Arsenal team of the 90's and early 2000 was poison. Berchamp, Henry, viera, seaman etc. Solid team.

Arsenal eh have the money to compete in todays football market, with the likes of Chelsea, Man City etc. Shit Chelsea pay 32 million pounds for Hazard alone.
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