ARSENAL FORWARD

[ckhan]

Not an easy game tuh watch...

[Bitter]

Self-destruct button pressed.

[Bitter]

Wow. That sums up the first half doesn't it.
Could this game get any worse?

[ckhan]

Could have slept for 45 minutes...hope we perfrom better in the 2nd half

[Bitter]

Somebody have to investigate this arsenal team for match fixing

[D.H.W]

Glory Glory!

[Dansteel - The Iceman]

Disappointing in the extreme. Conceding 2 stupid goals and a stupid penalty. No link between midfield and attack for yet another game. Arsenal beat themselves. Amazing that this is basically the side that looked the better team drawing at City and now pop down. Gunners had no business losing this game. Wenger need to start kicking their ass when they do crap like this. Vermaelen first.

[Bitter]

Actually that is not the same team that tie with city. They missing Gibbs, Diaby and Gervino.
The fellas on FSN make a comment that I could agree with, Arsenal squad could beat anybody. The team that sweating now? not so much.

The thing that must frustrate Wenger (though a lot if it is his own doing) is that he seemed to have cover for every position at the start of the season and was looking forward to the return of players like Wilshere, Sagna and Rosicky to strengthen the squad. Now he in the same position as last season, Podolski, Cazorla are a little stale, Ramsay is a good player that doesn't add anything to the team in his current position, and he has no one on the bench to be able to change things up.  And look now, Ramsay injured too.

This is an opportunity for Arshavin to make his way back into the picture. I can't see any good replacement for Santos, so he plays until Gibbs is back.

Arsenal's biggest problem might be the medical staff/training regimen. Every season there are multiple players out, often in the same position, or a position where they are thin.

I expect as they get players back and/or get knocked out of competitions, they will improve considerably.

[Dansteel - The Iceman]

Actually that is not the same team that tie with city. They missing Gibbs, Diaby and Gervino.
The fellas on FSN make a comment that I could agree with, Arsenal squad could beat anybody. The team that sweating now? not so much.

The thing that must frustrate Wenger (though a lot if it is his own doing) is that he seemed to have cover for every position at the start of the season and was looking forward to the return of players like Wilshere, Sagna and Rosicky to strengthen the squad. Now he in the same position as last season, Podolski, Cazorla are a little stale, Ramsay is a good player that doesn't add anything to the team in his current position, and he has no one on the bench to be able to change things up.  And look now, Ramsay injured too.

This is an opportunity for Arshavin to make his way back into the picture. I can't see any good replacement for Santos, so he plays until Gibbs is back.

Arsenal's biggest problem might be the medical staff/training regimen. Every season there are multiple players out, often in the same position, or a position where they are thin.

I expect as they get players back and/or get knocked out of competitions, they will improve considerably.

Agree with a lot of what you saying. I said it was basically the side that played City though, not the same team. Missing a lot in attacking midfield right now and players are losing form. Vermaelen and Koscielny especially.

I think it may be a good idea to have Cazorla and Ramsey switch positions. #10 seems to be the only spot that Ramsey has done well in and Cazorla is proven on the flanks for his last 2 clubs. Also as teams seem to have found Arsenal's soft left flank a more solid, hard working midfielder is needed on that wing and Podolski's work rate has dropped a lot since the international break. The loss of Diaby and Rosicky along with Wilshere's rustiness have meant missing a driving central ball carrier, which is a big loss in a team of passers.

I really dunno how we always end up missing EVERYBODY in one position nah. Last year it was fullbacks, year before strikers.

[Observer]

Just my two cents,, but Ramsey really does not deserve to be in the squad. Far too many poor decisions in possession & no penetration when he plays wide.

[Dansteel - The Iceman]

Just my two cents,, but Ramsey really does not deserve to be in the squad. Far too many poor decisions in possession & no penetration when he plays wide.

Remember Ramsey only playing because Rosicky and Ox injured. But I think he is better in the middle. I say switch him with Cazorla until the others return.

[Bitter]

Monster game by Giroud, he might be the real deal.
Arteta had a horrible game.

Arsenal showing flashes of coming out of their funk, but they just don't have it

[giggsy11]

WOW Arsenal! How disappointing not to be able to take the points.

[Bakes]

Phil Dowd is officially the worst referee in the Premier League... that was never a penalty against Reither, almost cost Fullham a well-deserved point.  Almost as bad as his penalty given against Skrtel for the inadvertent trip on Shane Long in Liverpool's loss to West Brom on opening day.

[Bakes]

Monster game by Giroud, he might be the real deal.
Arteta had a horrible game.

Arsenal showing flashes of coming out of their funk, but they just don't have it

If Giroud had a 'monster' game... what did Berba have?  I personally thought Giroud was more wasteful... and lucky more than anything else.

[giggsy11]

Forget selling Van Persi, I think the player Arseanl miss more is Song. He gave them power, intensity and drive out of midfield. And he actually helped the defence. What ahppen to Frimpong? (sic)

[Bitter]

Monster game by Giroud, he might be the real deal.
Arteta had a horrible game.

Arsenal showing flashes of coming out of their funk, but they just don't have it

If Giroud had a 'monster' game... what did Berba have?  I personally thought Giroud was more wasteful... and lucky more than anything else.

Berba was Berba. He didn't have that sublime Berba moment though.
I don't see how luck come into either of Giroud's two goals. They were well taken. Arsenal might have been lucky that he hit the post and it come back to Walcott, but Giroud still had to score them.

[Observer]

They don't look athletic enough at the back an in the Central midfield. No physicality what so ever. Recovery seems so slow, Challenges in the air, weak and they also look slow at putting pressure on the ball in midfield, so it leaves them vulnurable at the back to counters.
Ramsey and Arteta both dwell on the ball in general and teams know if you press them they will make poor decisions. Again potential counter situations.
Giroud, Podolski and Cazola need time to settle so you have to be fair to them, they do look like they fitting in.

[elan]

Crix

[Bourbon]

Written by an Arsenal fan on twitter :

Robin van Persie was right.The difference between Arsenal and
Manchester United has been crystal clear tonight and, for the first time, I don't blame Robin van Persie one bit for forcing his way
out of Arsenal. He moved to a better team and turned down a bigger money offer from ManCity.

Today Arsenal led 2-0 and threw it away, whilst Man Utd trailed 0-2 and

came back to win 3-2.

The worst part is that at 2-0, you knew Arsenal would throw it away. At 0-2, you knew Man Utd would come back.

All the best, Robin. No bitterness from me.

[Dansteel - The Iceman]

They don't look athletic enough at the back an in the Central midfield. No physicality what so ever. Recovery seems so slow, Challenges in the air, weak and they also look slow at putting pressure on the ball in midfield, so it leaves them vulnurable at the back to counters.
Ramsey and Arteta both dwell on the ball in general and teams know if you press them they will make poor decisions. Again potential counter situations.
Giroud, Podolski and Cazola need time to settle so you have to be fair to them, they do look like they fitting in.

I think the real defensive problem, as usual, is midfield. Arteta had probably his worst game for us, Coquelin needs to remember he is a defensive midfielder. Barring the first goal, where Berbatov commits a blindingly clear foul on Sagna (which makes the nonsense penalty Arsenal got in injury time only fair, shame about the outcome), the second was a free header the defensive midfielders SHOULD have picked up, and the third was Arteta getting robbed and bringing Ruiz down.

You right Bitter. Giroud was a beast. Funny to think that in Montpellier last season he scored only 1 header in his league leading 21 goals. Waiting to see some more footwork from him but I'll take the goals any way they score.

Attack looking better but now we seem to have forgotten how to defend. I don't think the team is well balanced with Walcott and Podolski on the flanks. Good in attack but they can't play keep-ball and control games like they used to with one technical winger.

[Dansteel - The Iceman]

There is, of course, no defending in a North London Derby. Both teams have injury problems and in poor form. Come on you Gunners!

[Dansteel - The Iceman]

Great result. Performance could have been better but some very encouraging signs. Adebayor, thank you for being you!

[Dansteel - The Iceman]

Good week. NLD win, Qualified for UCL Knockouts and big new shirt deal. Hope they spend the money on some nice acquisitions!

[dinho]

[giggsy11]

  -crickets

[Peong]

This side is real toots and the supporters real sensitive. 

[D.H.W]

Hahaha not even Liverpool fans are such pussies. They run off to friendbook

[Observer]

Looks like Wenger getting 50mil pounds to spend in January here is a shopping list or at least write Santa.

CB: Andreas Bjelland FC Twente
      Vertonghen's       Ajax


MF: Fellini         Everton
      Moutinho    Porto
      M'Vila         Rennes
      Nainggolan  Cagliari
      Capoue      Toulouse
     
Att:   Rodriguez  Porto
        Martinez    Porto
        Lloriente    Biilbao
        Ba             NC
        Lukaku      Chelski     

[Bitter]

Reading getting bull hard today.

Walcott playing forward. Ramsay and Gervinho on the bench.