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 Who will lose ?

 Jack
2 (14.3%)
Khadija
2 (14.3%)
PNM Fella
3 (21.4%)
Kamla
2 (14.3%)
The people of Chaguanas West
5 (35.7%)
Some big pappy contractor
0 (0%)

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Re: Will Jack create history?
« Reply #990 on: July 20, 2013, 10:50:53 PM »
That is the tsunami pictures he released on Friday steups

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Re: Will Jack create history?
« Reply #991 on: July 21, 2013, 01:39:43 AM »

 Khadijass look like ah drug lord in that pic.

 BTW Guardian steal plagarise mih poll
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« Reply #992 on: July 21, 2013, 06:59:57 AM »
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-07-20/jack%E2%80%99s-passport-recall-election-tactic
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A Government directive to withdraw former FIFA vice-president and up-coming Chaguanas West by-election candidate Jack Warner’s diplomatic passport could be a well-engineered plan to take him out of the election equation, a legal source is alleging. The diplomatic passport, issued to all Government MPs, gave Warner protective immunity and without it, he is now open to possible extradition by US law-enforcement authorities, the source said.
 
“Remember Warner’s son, Daryan Warner, has been named as a co-operating witness into an FBI investigation into FIFA corruption.” Warner, at a Chaguanas West meeting, strenuously denied that he or any of his family members is being investigated by US authorities. But the legal source, requesting strict anonymity, insisted, “Without the immunity provided by his diplomatic passport, the US can now request Warner’s extradition.”
 
He continued,“The timing of the Government’s retrieval of Warner’s diplomatic passport is very opportune and relevant. “It would be a challenge for the Government if he wins the Chaguanas West by-election. It could spell the downfall of the People’s Partnership Government. Other dissatisfied government MPs will want to leave.”
 
The T&T Guardian contacted the US Embassy, asking if that country put pressure on the T&T Government to retrieve Warner’s passport and if he was under any investigation in the US. It was also asked if Warner could now be nabbed by US marshals. But the US remains tightlipped about the Warner matter. Press specialist Charleen Thomas sent back a release which she said should be viewed as a US Embassy response to the questions.
 
“As a matter of long standing policy, we are not able to comment on law-enforcement matters or on individual immigration cases. “Any questions related to T&T passports should be directed to the Government of T&T.” Warner resigned as national security minister and Chaguanas West MP amidst widespread calls for him to do so after a damning report on Concacaf during his tenure there.

 
He was rejected by the Government as a UNC candidate in the July 29 Chaguanas West by-election and has formed his own party, the Independent Liberal Party, to contest the seat. He said on Thursday he received a call from acting Chief Immigration Officer Keith Sampson telling him to immediately surrender his diplomatic passport. Acting Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Roodal Moonilal said the ministry asked the National Security Ministry to assist with retrieving it.
 
Moonilal, in a newspaper interview, said the passport is the property of the Government of T&T and must be returned when a minister no longer holds office. The Guardian called Attorney General Anand Ramlogan for a response on the matter but he said he does not issue passports, and to check with the Foreign Affairs Ministry.
 
Lisa Daniel-Charles, communications officer at the Foreign Affairs Ministry, said there was no information there about the US putting pressure on the Government to retrieve Warner’s passport. The Guardian tried National Security Minister Emmanuel George, under whose ministry the Immigration Division falls, but he referred the matter back to the Foreign Affairs Ministry.
 
Told that some are of the view that the retrieval of Warner’s passport is a plan to remove him from the Chaguanas West by-election equation, he replied, “Let them say that. “People are saying all sorts of things.” Pressed on the Warner issue, George said, “I don’t know. Don’t ask me. You are asking me things I am not familiar with.”

 
 
Panday’s Response
Former prime minister Basdeo Panday, asked his views on the handing back of diplomatic passports, said it is the government that can determine who has one and who does not. Giving his own experience, Panday said, “When I ceased to be a member of Cabinet, I handed up my diplomatic passport. And I also gave it up when I was no longer prime minister or leader of the opposition.
 
“I went on blue (passports for ordinary citizens). And when that expired, I applied through the Parliament and was told I am entitled (as a former prime minister) to a diplomatic passport. “Yes, I have a diplomatic passport. It’s stamped ‘former prime minister.’” Panday said the government, after you have given up your diplomatic passport, can decide if to allow you to have one again. He said he was unaware the US wanted Warner for an investigation or is seeking to extradite him.
 
Panday, who was ousted as leader of the UNC by Persad-Bissessar, said he has no doubt, however, that the timing of the retrieval of Warner’s passport has to do with “the present political struggles and the upcoming local government elections.”
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Re: Will Jack create history?
« Reply #993 on: July 21, 2013, 07:35:11 AM »

 Khadijass look like ah drug lord in that pic.

She say it was from a sou sou birthday party.....mih still confused by what dat mean..... ???

 BTW Guardian steal plagarise mih poll

Eh??  Say what now??

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« Reply #994 on: July 21, 2013, 07:38:23 AM »
How all yuh eh post this one??.......Tivoli Gardens.....Chaguanas West same thing......

Jack In Front
New exclusive poll shows Chaguanas West by-election race heating up


By By Asha Javeed

Jack Warner, interim leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP), is ahead of the other contenders in the Chaguanas West by-election on July 29, a new poll has shown.
He has a commanding lead in the race with an approval rating of 48 per cent.
Warner is followed by United National Congress (UNC) candidate Khadijah Ameen who has 23 per cent rating and the People’s National Movement (PNM) candidate Avinash Singh who has three per cent.
However, 26 per cent of people polled remain undecided in the by-election race.
Other candidates had negligible support.

The poll was conducted by local company Solution by Simulation and was commissioned by the Trinidad Express Newspapers.
Solution by Simulation interviewed 302 likely voters by telephone from the period July 16-18. The poll has a margin of error of 5.8 per cent.
The poll noted that with one week to go, there weren’t many areas for the United National Congress (UNC) to close the gap. 

While the election has been described as person versus party, the poll showed that even though Warner was in the lead, it was not because Chaguanas West had abandoned party as an important consideration.
For Chaguanas West voters, 77 per cent still believe party affiliation is important, 61 per cent believe that it is very important and five per cent said it was not important.
With regard to the issue of race, Warner performed significantly better among Indo-Trinidadians than Afro-Trinidadians.
The same could be said of the UNC.

Among Afro-Trinidadians, who make up five per cent of voters, Warner similarly captures half the votes, with the other half split almost evenly between the People’s National Movement (PNM) candidate Singh’s supporters and those undecided.
The Congress of the People (COP) faction, which comprises six per cent of voters, has been divided in their disposition towards Warner and the by-election. The poll concluded that Warner does well among COP voters as well as traditional UNC voters.
The poll stated that the undecided 26 per cent voters are likely to be older and women.
 It noted that if the UNC’s Ameen is able to capture some of these voters, she could close the gap.
“Given that voters in Chaguanas West have overwhelmingly expressed preference for Mr Warner and those same voters believe that party affiliation is “very important”, it is not unreasonable to assume that their choice for Mr Warner is not a one-time exception but that these same voters will be loyal to other ILP candidates, for example in the upcoming election for Chaguanas Borough Corporation in October,” the poll said.

Jack Warner/ILP
The predominant factor to Warner’s lead is his personal appeal with a favourability rating of 74 per cent. Even among the undecided voters, his favourability is at 62 per cent. Among the Khadijah Ameen’s supporters, more people (42 per cent) like him than don’t (37 per cent). He has the support of two out of every three decided voters.
“As much as 77 per cent of Chaguanas West voters still believe that party affiliation is still important when deciding who to vote for, suggesting that Mr Warner’s personal appeal has translated into the creation of a new political force which is successfully contending head-on against the UNC brand, henceforth invincible in this constituency,” the poll noted.

Khadijah Ameen/ UNC
While Ameen has a 25 per cent base support, the Solution by Simulation poll concludes that she has an uphill climb ahead of her.
“Unlike Mr Warner, her support rate underperforms that of her party and she still has work to do even to solidify support among those who remain loyal to the UNC,” it noted.
Ameen’s favourability is at 39 per cent. Four per cent of voters did not recognise the name “Khadijah Ameen” until they were prompted that she was the UNC candidate. Even among those who plan to vote for her, 13 per cent had “no opinion” of her.

Avinash Singh/PNM
At three per cent in the poll, Singh’s rating is within the margin of error. Less than half of the voters had any opinion of him at all and 14 per cent did not recognise the name “Avinash Singh” until prompted that he was the PNM candidate. The poll observed that he is not even guaranteed to win majority support among traditional PNM supporters, many of whom plan to vote for Warner.           

About Solution
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Solution by Simulation was founded by Nigel AR Henry, BS (Yale) MA (GWU), following his stint as the lead numerical analyst for the Southeast USA for Obama for America Campaign 2008. It began in the United States, providing data analysis for political candidates at all levels, from mayor up to United States senator. It debuted in Trinidad and Tobago with a 2013 Tobago House of Assembly election poll--first publicly-published poll to predict a PNM victory in that election, and the only poll to predict a PNM landslide. Eleven seats were correctly called for the PNM, with the remaining seat declared too close to call at the time.

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Re: Will Jack create history?
« Reply #995 on: July 21, 2013, 07:48:29 AM »
Americans will lock him up before he take office
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« Reply #996 on: July 21, 2013, 08:58:45 AM »
This country in a sad state if warner win that elections

We will make top 5 in the most corrupt countries

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« Reply #997 on: July 21, 2013, 09:22:28 AM »
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Jack-asks-Planning-Minister-to-pay-up-216313121.html

Jack asks Planning Minister to pay up
Inflated $5.5m bill on Pump Trace project

By Camini Marajh Head Investigative Desk
Story Created: Jul 20, 2013 at 10:26 PM ECT
Story Updated: Jul 20, 2013 at 11:28 PM ECT
As the battle for the Chaguanas West parliamentary seat puts the murky business of party financing in the public spotlight, documents obtained by the Sunday Express show that the leading candidate in the upcoming July 29 poll, Austin Jack Warner made a personal intervention on behalf on an Arvin Kalloo company for payment of an inflated bill of public works relating to a recreation ground at Pump Trace in Laventille.
On December 11 last year, the then Minister of National Security, forwarded an invoice for $5.5 million to his colleague in Planning and the Economy, Dr Bhoe Tewarie, for construction works undertaken in east Port of Spain by a company called Park Square Development Co Ltd for which no contract or scope of works exists.
When and how the construction works originated or who awarded the multi-million dollar package of works to Park Square Development Co Ltd remains something of a mystery as there is no record of the project on file either at the Ministry of Planning and the Economy or its special purpose State company tasked with transforming the east Port of Spain area.
The Warner-submitted invoice to his colleague in Planning and the Economy is dated December 6, 2012 and signed by the managing director of Park Square Development Co Ltd, Marlon Alves. The invoice is addressed to the Ministry of Planning and bills the State for a range of goods and services, including false claims for sealant carrying a $1.1 million price tag and a wire wall fence at the princely sum of $972,270.
The Warner letter, issued on a Minister of National Security letterhead, contains this brief paragraph: “Attached for approval and payment is invoice No.206 dated December 6, 2012 from Park Square Development Co Ltd, for works completed at the Pump Trace Reservoir, Pump Trace, Laventille. The attached is submitted for your consideration.” The letter is signed Jack Warner.
Investigations conducted by the State special purpose company, East Port of Spain Development Co Ltd, found that a substantial number of items identified in the invoice for “works completed” were not done, including application of bituminous sealant, main and pedestrian gates, basketball rings and backboards, netball ring and post and PVC-coated wire wall fence, among other things.
Using industry comparable rates, the State company estimated the total value of works evident on the ground at $692,000 inclusive of an average 15 per cent profit. The bill was inflated by some $4.8 million. The East Port of Spain Development Co experts put the estimated cost of works, had it been completed as specified in the invoice, at $1,664,136 Value Added Tax (VAT) inclusive.
Warner did not answer or immediately return messages left on his phone while Tewarie admitted to being approached by his former colleague in National Security about a sporting facility on the top of a huge concrete water tank in Pump Trace. He said he agreed to the  request  and  suggested that the East PoS Development Co be involved since it was not a project budgeted for and details would have to be worked out.
Shortly after this conversation, Tewarie said he received an invoice for completed works from Minister Warner. He said he sent the Warner-submitted invoice to the East PoS Company and was surprised to later learn from the acting chairman Paul Solomon that the company had no involvement or knowledge of the project.
He said the Solomon-led board questioned the costs associated with the project for which no contract or scope of works had been issued. A subsequent investigation found that three firms were involved in the project, the two Kalloo identified companies and a community company called Netfix Roofing, which was contracted by Kall Co to handle the labour-only aspect of the contract.
Tewarie said the State company indicated that they could have executed the project for a fifth of the submitted invoice cost. He said he shared the information with his permanent secretary Arlene McComie who held the view that neither the Planning Ministry nor the East PoS Development Co had any responsibility in the matter.
“I sent the report to Warner asking that we meet to discuss because I found the report troubling,” said Tewarie adding that, “he never responded and we never had the meeting”.
 He said no payment was made to any of the parties involved. McCommie made clear when contacted last week that her ministry ran a tight ship and adhered to strict rules in the disbursement of public funds.
Solomon said having investigated the invoice claim, he could not recommend payment. “Prior to this we had absolutely no knowledge of the existence of this project. I wish to state categorically that neither the board nor the management and staff of the East PoS Development Co had any knowledge of, or hand in, its commissioning or its execution.”
He expressed concern that the works were carried out in direct contradiction to the policies and processes that “the board and management had worked diligently to adhere to during its tenure”.
 His managing director Deborah Thomas said there appeared to be some confusion about which of the two Kalloo companies did the work but in the end it really didn’t matter since it was not work the state had initiated or commissioned.
The East PoS Co found that Park Square subcontracted Kall Co which in turn contracted the community group Netfix Roofing to do the labour part of the contract for half a million dollars. Kalloo was the incorporator on record, a shareholder and a former director of Park Square Development. He is also the controlling shareholder and a former director of Kall Co Ltd.
Reached for comment on the $5.5 million bill submitted via the former minister of national security, Kalloo said only: “I knows nothing about that.” His stock response to questions about Park Square, Kall Co Ltd and the Pump Trace project was that he had no knowledge. Michael Arjune, the development manager of Kall Co later called the Sunday Express to say that Pump Trace was a community development project that was done to help alleviate crime in the area.
He said he had no knowledge how the contract originated. In fact, according to him, there was no cost at all attached to the project. He claimed it was “a community job” done free of charge. Asked about the $5.5 million bill submitted to the state for payment, he said he had no knowledge about that and insisted that it was all “volunteer work” to help an at-risk community.
The invoice showed that the Kalloo company billed the State $972,270 for a wire wall fence but instead used a six-foot high chain-link fencing. It claimed a $1.1 million tab for sealant but used instead a tennis court green paint. It also billed the Ministry of Planning for $360,000 electrical work that was not done, $276,000 in paint that was not done and $70,000 for basketball rings that were never installed, among other things.
The issue of procurement fraud and campaign financing has surfaced in this hotly contested by-election which has caused an implosion within the major party in the ruling coalition. Last Sunday, this newspaper reported at length about Warner’s improper solicitation of millions of dollars from wealthy business interests that do business with the state.
The corruption-tainted former government minister and football powerhouse response has been: “So what?” and a counterattack that other ministers in the People’s Partnership Government also solicited funds for the purchase of toys and other incentive type arrangements. In the case of Warner, he solicited and received over $9.5 million to the bank account of a private company in which he held an interest.
He also received a $200,000 payment from international French contractor Vinci Construction in February of 2011, the year he got in deep trouble over the bribes-for-votes affair at the Hyatt hotel. Vinci’s project manager Benjamin Pepe, who took up duties in Trinidad late last year said he has no knowledge of the payment made to Warner. “I am not aware of that at all,” he said, conceding that the French construction giant has strict rules relating to the payment of gifts to foreign public officials.
He also admitted that the contract for the final package of works on the Uriah Butler Interchange was signed off in 2012, after the $200,000 February 2011 payment to JLM Quality, an associate Warner company.  Warner had solicited money ostensibly for the Ministry of Works annual Christmas party and sports day events.
 
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« Reply #998 on: July 21, 2013, 09:31:26 AM »
If the government had did what they suppose to do and arrest his tail early they would not be in this situation. At least investigate him. He time will come
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« Reply #999 on: July 22, 2013, 05:29:25 AM »
‘...Attack on Hindus in campaign’



The Chaguanas West by-election campaign has “an undercurrent of an attack on the Hindu community”, United National Congress deputy political leader Dr Roodal Moonilal said yesterday.

“We will not see it at first sight...you don’t see the undercurrent so sometimes you can participate in your own denigration without knowing. It is not coincidental that there is an attack on the (children of Dr Suruj Rambachan and Chandresh Sharma)—a Hindu child. What they are trying to develop is the idea that if your children are successful they thief to get there... It is a way to demonise your community,” he said.
Moonilal and several of his Cabinet colleagues, including Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, Transport Minister Chandresh Sharma and Food Production Minister Devant Maharaj, attended Sunday morning service at the Devi Temple, Caroni Savannah Road, Chaguanas, on the invitation of Maha Sabha secretary general Sat Maharaj.

He noted that the Land Rover sport utility vehicle (SUV) that had been leased through the Housing Development Company (HDC), a State enterprise under his purview, for his use was now “parked in a garage somewhere”.
“I driving the same vehicle for two years, a Rover SUV and is only when the campaign start and Jack Warner start campaigning they start attacking me for the vehicle. So I stop using it because I say I don’t want to distract from the campaign. It is now parked in a garage somewhere. It is the same money we paying every month and nobody saying anything. You can pay the same money every month once Roodal Moonilal not using it. It is the same money, you know, but I must not use it. I must still be on the bull-cart,” he said.
“If I use a Rover or a BMW, that is not for you, but if Keith Rowley was doing that before that is fine. That is good. What he is saying now in 2013 is put you back on that bison. They want you back there and want to use different strategies. This is a time of awakening for us. You must see what is happening. You must see the attack.”

He referred to his former Cabinet colleague, interim political leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP) Jack Warner only as “he”, saying that his supporters were “only putting mala (a Hindu garland) on this fella. They put about 20 mala on him, you couldn’t see his face. But when I look through the list of people recommended (in Chaguanas West) for housing I didn’t see anybody named Mala, you know”.

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« Reply #1000 on: July 22, 2013, 05:45:27 AM »
‘...Attack on Hindus in campaign’

The Chaguanas West by-election campaign has “an undercurrent of an attack on the Hindu community”, United National Congress deputy political leader Dr Roodal Moonilal said yesterday.

“We will not see it at first sight...you don’t see the undercurrent so sometimes you can participate in your own denigration without knowing. It is not coincidental that there is an attack on the (children of Dr Suruj Rambachan and Chandresh Sharma)—a Hindu child. What they are trying to develop is the idea that if your children are successful they thief to get there... It is a way to demonise your community,” he said.
“I driving the same vehicle for two years, a Rover SUV and is only when the campaign start and Jack Warner start campaigning they start attacking me for the vehicle. So I stop using it because I say I don’t want to distract from the campaign. It is now parked in a garage somewhere. It is the same money we paying every month and nobody saying anything. You can pay the same money every month once Roodal Moonilal not using it. It is the same money, you know, but I must not use it. I must still be on the bull-cart,” he said.
“If I use a Rover or a BMW, that is not for you, but if Keith Rowley was doing that before that is fine. That is good. What he is saying now in 2013 is put you back on that bison. They want you back there and want to use different strategies. This is a time of awakening for us. You must see what is happening. You must see the attack.”


He referred to his former Cabinet colleague, interim political leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP) Jack Warner only as “he”, saying that his supporters were “only putting mala (a Hindu garland) on this fella. They put about 20 mala on him, you couldn’t see his face. But when I look through the list of people recommended (in Chaguanas West) for housing I didn’t see anybody named Mala, you know”.

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« Reply #1001 on: July 22, 2013, 06:43:11 AM »
He really is Panday protege.

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« Reply #1002 on: July 22, 2013, 07:15:22 AM »

 Them fellas campaign on a ticket of doing things differently to the PNM.
All kinda accusations about wastage and patronage now he acyually complaining that he only doing the same thing PNM did.

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« Reply #1003 on: July 22, 2013, 11:58:19 AM »
Ah boiiii....Your Prime Minister is bowing and touching the feet of Sat Maharaj...This woman likes to bow boy. Imagine Sat Maharaj, a known racist and divider of people she doesn't even care about how it looks to the nation.

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« Reply #1004 on: July 22, 2013, 12:01:18 PM »
Ah boiiii....Your Prime Minister is bowing and touching the feet of Sat Maharaj...This woman likes to bow boy. Imagine Sat Maharaj, a known racist and divider of people she doesn't even care about how it looks to the nation.

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« Reply #1005 on: July 22, 2013, 01:20:24 PM »
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/ILP-official-Jack-has-more-love-for-East-Indians-than-Moonilal-216379651.html

INTERIM leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP) Jack Warner has “more love for East Indians” than Housing Minister Dr Roodal Moonilal ever will.
So said ILP official Anna Deonarine in response to suggestions by Moonilal that Warner was “disrespecting” East Indians in a song that has gone viral on the Internet.
During a cottage meeting at Munroe Road, Cunupia, in May, Warner was telling a story about how he came to organise a land certificate for one of the area’s residents.
Before Warner took the stage, the resident had publicly thanked him for his assistance.
In explaining the process used to get the land certificate for the resident, Warner said he had to place phone calls to both Moonilal and Commissioner of State Lands Kumar Koonoolal.
“While talking to the audience Mr Warner had a slip of the tongue,” Deonarine said.
“I spoke to Dr Moonilal. I spoke to Koonoolal. Koonoolal, Moonilal, Moonilal, Koonoolal, whatever,” Warner said during that meeting.
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Speaking during the United National Congress (UNC) Monday night forum at Chaguanas Government School last week, Moonilal spoke about the “now infamous song”.
Moonilal said Warner was disrespecting a “beautiful Hindu name”.
But speaking at the ILP meeting at Marchin Recreation Ground in Cunupia on Friday, Deonarine said Moonilal’s statement had been “tormenting” her since it arose.
Deonarine said the UNC was trying to bring the issue of race into the Chaguanas by-election and destroy the “unity and one love that Mr Warner has crafted here for us”.
She said everyone knows Warner has a “little speech impediment” and his slip of the tongue was not meant as any intended disrespect.
“Shame on you, Moonilal, don’t try to divide us and try to score cheap political points by bringing race into the politics,” Deonarine said.
She said it was “distasteful” that anyone would try to divide Chaguanas West along racial lines.
“Mr Warner loves Indian people probably more than you do, Mr Moonilal. He is probably more Indian than you. He has more love for Indians than they (the UNC) will ever have.”
Deonarine said the “sickening part” is that people unfamiliar with the genesis of the song may believe Moonilal’s claims.
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« Reply #1006 on: July 22, 2013, 01:41:29 PM »
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Don’t sell out for box drains
Moonilal warns worshippers:
By Carla Bridglal carla.bridglal@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Jul 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM ECT

Story Updated: Jul 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM ECT
United National Congress (UNC) deputy political leader Dr Roodal Moonilal yesterday warned Sunday morning worshippers at the Devi Temple in Chaguanas against selling out their legacy of UNC representation for a box drain or road that will mash up in five or ten years.
“As happy as you are that you have gotten a road or a drain, and that is only in some places, eh, the drain will mash up. Do you know in five to ten years you will come for a drain again? That box drain go mash up. That road go mash up. It will need fixing again. When you build schools and send your children to school they will become doctors and engineers. They will upgrade not only themselves but their whole communities,” Moonilal told the audience.

He and several of his Cabinet colleagues, including Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, Transport Minister Chandresh Sharma and Food Production Minister Devant Maharaj, attended Sunday morning service at the temple on the invitation of Maha Sabha secretary general Sat Maharaj.
“When we build schools, the Maha Sabha builds schools, we give children that opportunity. But today, people want to sell out that legacy for a box drain. That will mash up. The road will be damaged but your education will not go,” said Moonilal.
He referred to his former Cabinet colleague, ex-MP for Chaguanas West and now interim political leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP) Jack Warner, only as “he”, saying that “he” wanted to throw out the UNC from its safest “homeland seat”.
“The people of Chaguanas West have always voted for everyone we have ever selected. Today he is saying forget that history, forget your values and vote for (him) because I did give yuh a few box drains.”

Moonilal said he had paved several roads in his own constituency of Oropouche East, but that did not give him the deed to that area.
“I am in the Government and the Government has resources and I use the resources to help the people who elected me. That is my duty.”
The problem, though, Moonilal said, was not July 29, the date of the by-election, but after.
“I see what happening here already. When they get some votes on the 29th they will want to intervene in local government elections. If we do not play this right we stand to lose Chaguanas borough for the first time in life; we stand to lose Siparia; we stand to lose Mayaro; Rio Claro; Tunapuna.
“All of those they will intervene and seek to defeat us and when they do that, in the general elections they will seek to defeat us in the marginal seats. You know in 2001 we lost the whole government by 195 votes.”

He continued: “I am convinced the UNC and Khadijah Ameen will win the election, but we must not win by a narrow margin. We have to win by an overwhelming victory—a landslide. We must win by a landslide.”
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« Reply #1007 on: July 22, 2013, 02:39:53 PM »
D Calcutta ship man ... what he name again ?

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« Reply #1008 on: July 22, 2013, 03:39:08 PM »
D Calcutta ship man ... what he name again ?
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« Reply #1009 on: July 22, 2013, 05:20:23 PM »
This different to Sandy. It eh stoking race.





It appealing to ethnicity.  ::) So I guess that ok.
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« Reply #1010 on: July 24, 2013, 08:32:00 PM »
Caption this:




For me...it could be the start of a video to this:
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« Reply #1011 on: July 24, 2013, 08:53:41 PM »
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Dont-sell-out-for-box-drains-216382511.html

Don’t sell out for box drains
Moonilal warns worshippers:
By Carla Bridglal carla.bridglal@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Jul 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM ECT

Story Updated: Jul 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM ECT
United National Congress (UNC) deputy political leader Dr Roodal Moonilal yesterday warned Sunday morning worshippers at the Devi Temple in Chaguanas against selling out their legacy of UNC representation for a box drain or road that will mash up in five or ten years.
“As happy as you are that you have gotten a road or a drain, and that is only in some places, eh, the drain will mash up. Do you know in five to ten years you will come for a drain again? That box drain go mash up. That road go mash up. It will need fixing again. When you build schools and send your children to school they will become doctors and engineers. They will upgrade not only themselves but their whole communities,” Moonilal told the audience.

He and several of his Cabinet colleagues, including Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, Transport Minister Chandresh Sharma and Food Production Minister Devant Maharaj, attended Sunday morning service at the temple on the invitation of Maha Sabha secretary general Sat Maharaj.
“When we build schools, the Maha Sabha builds schools, we give children that opportunity. But today, people want to sell out that legacy for a box drain. That will mash up. The road will be damaged but your education will not go,” said Moonilal.
He referred to his former Cabinet colleague, ex-MP for Chaguanas West and now interim political leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP) Jack Warner, only as “he”, saying that “he” wanted to throw out the UNC from its safest “homeland seat”.
“The people of Chaguanas West have always voted for everyone we have ever selected. Today he is saying forget that history, forget your values and vote for (him) because I did give yuh a few box drains.”

Moonilal said he had paved several roads in his own constituency of Oropouche East, but that did not give him the deed to that area.
“I am in the Government and the Government has resources and I use the resources to help the people who elected me. That is my duty.”
The problem, though, Moonilal said, was not July 29, the date of the by-election, but after.
“I see what happening here already. When they get some votes on the 29th they will want to intervene in local government elections. If we do not play this right we stand to lose Chaguanas borough for the first time in life; we stand to lose Siparia; we stand to lose Mayaro; Rio Claro; Tunapuna.
“All of those they will intervene and seek to defeat us and when they do that, in the general elections they will seek to defeat us in the marginal seats. You know in 2001 we lost the whole government by 195 votes.”

He continued: “I am convinced the UNC and Khadijah Ameen will win the election, but we must not win by a narrow margin. We have to win by an overwhelming victory—a landslide. We must win by a landslide.”

Fear mongering at one of its best. Why tehy eh hire Cro Cro to sing a rendition of this song  at the Renzie Compex: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-roUT3G5Bq0

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« Reply #1012 on: July 25, 2013, 09:08:19 AM »
Alderman from Chagunas Borough Corporation, Ramesh Ramdhan, described Warner as a mixture of Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King.
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« Reply #1013 on: July 25, 2013, 09:16:32 AM »
Ramesh Ramdhan, described Warner as a mixture of Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King.


what dem tief .....how much dey tief..........and how much dey does keep from what dey tief again ??? ??? ...I forget
I pity the fool....

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« Reply #1014 on: July 25, 2013, 09:28:27 AM »
Ramesh Ramdhan, described Warner as a mixture of Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King.


what dem tief .....how much dey tief..........and how much dey does keep from what dey tief again ??? ??? ...I forget

well,He bald like Ghandi, retire from politics like Mandela and FBI investigatin him like King......maybe dais what he did mean.
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« Reply #1015 on: July 25, 2013, 10:25:31 AM »
Ramesh Ramdhan, described Warner as a mixture of Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King.


what dem tief .....how much dey tief..........and how much dey does keep from what dey tief again ??? ??? ...I forget

well,He bald like Ghandi, retire from politics like Mandela and FBI investigatin him like King......maybe dais what he did mean.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: but Jack eh retire, dey tryin to retire him doh
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« Reply #1016 on: July 25, 2013, 11:01:33 AM »
Ramesh Ramdhan, described Warner as a mixture of Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King.


what dem tief .....how much dey tief..........and how much dey does keep from what dey tief again ??? ??? ...I forget

Ey Tallman isnt this our only referee to officiate in a world cup finals as a lineman ?
He owe Jack big time
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« Reply #1017 on: July 25, 2013, 11:22:06 AM »
Ramesh Ramdhan, described Warner as a mixture of Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King.


what dem tief .....how much dey tief..........and how much dey does keep from what dey tief again ??? ??? ...I forget

Ey Tallman isnt this our only referee to officiate in a world cup finals as a lineman ?
He owe Jack big time

For the 1998 World Cup he refereed the Japan vs Croatia match and was the 4th official in the Netherlands vs Belgium and Tunisia vs Romania matches. He also was the referee for the 1998 Gold Cup final between USA and Mexico.
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« Reply #1018 on: July 25, 2013, 07:31:35 PM »
DHW....record dem ads running on local TV nah? Please and thanks.

Anyhow...

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« Reply #1019 on: July 25, 2013, 07:36:29 PM »
And...

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BREAKING NEWS!!!!! On the eve of Jack Warner's final mass meeting at Green Park, Felicity WASA has dug a trench around all through the roads around the venue making it inaccessible. If this is not vindictiveness.. What is!?????!!!!! THIS CANNOT CONTINUE!!!!!!!





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