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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1470 on: June 11, 2021, 04:11:29 PM »
Aye Pull stones. I go like to see Bahamas play Brazil. According to you, once the Bahamians park that bus, and they put fat boy who does cook in the hotel on Neymar, well know dais it for Brazil...
thats not a good look GOP I thought you were a gentleman and a reasonable person hence the reason  I engaged you, so what’s with the trini pecong bacchanal twist, you think you know this game better than me? every man is entitled to his opinion regardless of how ridiculous it might sound. so we disagree on the Bahamas fiasco and that’s fine, in retrospect we could agree to disagree and still remain respectful. IMO it’s part of what makes Homo sapiens a remarkable specie, after all, humanity would lose its flavor if everyone agreed on everything all the time, but at least when we differ could we be respectful?

Yeah I just kixing with you. . Only a few posters here who I respect their opinion. So no worries. I had to toss out a joke on this.

I did call for TF to resign or be removed. But the question is, who will be the next coach. It will make more sense to properly search for the best replacement. But the timing is what might make this a bad choice. . Meaning a rush decision to hire a new coach.

The truth is that TF did have the know how to best BAH. But he went into the game thinking that no real amount of preparation and scouting was necessary. Instead of preparing for the worse and expecting the best, he prepared for the best and end up getting the worse.
ok mate no problem. about firing terry, trinis lobby for the scalp of a man who struggled to put a team together in a ragging pandemic not being able to train players as he would have liked especially when the league was suspended. This coach only played 5 games total since his hiring, one friendly which he loss to a great team and 4 competitive matches winning two games in a tournament and drawing two, now how does that warrant a firing?

take dennis lawrence for instance, he won his first game and lose the next 6 and then went on for 17 more games without a win, yet he not only got his contract renewed, had DJW not lost the elections I’m sure Dennis would still be coaching us. funny how we love and tolerate the smell of our own shit better than that of others.

I agree. But I think the signficance of the game and the opposition is what really determined TF's exit. I think any coach who lost that game in particular would have faced the same scrutiny and would have been removed.

All we got now is the Gold cup for 2021 and 2023. We need to be at a good ranking by 2024 as that will determine our seed. God forbid we get into a similar type of grouping where we have Suriname or Haiti instead of a BAH or PR.
you know this world cup thing is comparable to panorama, it's like a hustle that makes no sense. you spend tons of money to bring a band, the band plays/competes, then after panorama is over we boast about who played the best, but no one is business savvy enough to market their bands on a money making venture with world wide tours etc, but instead rely heavily on sponsorship every single year, and the year that they're not sponsored the band could possibly break up.

football is a business in most countries except trinidad and tobago, in fact we're one of the few countries with a league that rely on government subventions to survive. imagine having a league that cannot attract any kind of sponsorship, why couldn't anyone find a way to market football in TT they way they do in other countries?

and we have these old fools (former footballers) who are sold on this world cup dream, and every year we bust out they grumble and blame the coaches and the players, but these same dummies aren't sensible or honest with themselves enough to realize that football in TT is almost nonexistent and we're far from ready to compete with the rest of the world in that regard.

why not put things in place by fixing the league and making football a business so we could generate enough money to invest it back into youth development? for us trying to go to the world cup every time it rolls around is akin to a bum longing to go to carnegie hall but lives on the streets with no money and no clothes.

instead of spending all you have to go to carnegie hall only to wake up hungry and broke the next day, take that money and rent a room and buy yourself some clean clothes, and then maybe if you could find a job, and save up enough money, then maybe one day you would be more than able to buy a ticket to the great event, but wanting to go to carnegie hall in stinky clothes with no where to live is nonsensical. get a room first and some clean clothes TT, and forget about carnegie hall for now.
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« Reply #1471 on: June 11, 2021, 05:18:39 PM »
Soca Warriors Head Coach Terry Fenwick sacked along with assistants Derek King and Kelvin Jack
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The Normalisation Committee serves notice of termination to Terry Fenwick and mutually parts company with Derek King and Kelvin Jack.

The FIFA appointed Normalisation Committee (NC) of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) served notice of termination to Senior Men’s National Team Head Coach Terry Fenwick.

Additionally, the NC has mutually parted company with Senior Men’s National Team Assistant Coach Derek King and is finalizing same with Assistant Coach Kelvin Jack.

Given the financial situation of the TTFA which threatens its ability to fund the coaches at the salary levels that were committed, the NC has met with Derek King and Kelvin Jack and have come to a mutually agreed position.

The NC wishes to thank Derek and Kelvin for their work, professionalism and sincere understanding. We wish them all the best in the future.

The TTFA will now prioritize its appointment of an Interim Head Coach together with a coaching staff next week, ahead of the Gold Cup Preliminary Round which takes place in early July 2021.

A selection panel led by NC Member Nicholas Gomez and comprising Anton Corneal, Anthony Sherwood and Richard Chinapoo will meet to finalize the selection of the Interim Head Coach. The Interim Head Coach together with the panel will then establish the supporting team.
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« Reply #1472 on: June 12, 2021, 12:33:31 AM »
Soca Warriors Head Coach Terry Fenwick sacked along with assistants Derek King and Kelvin Jack
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The Normalisation Committee serves notice of termination to Terry Fenwick and mutually parts company with Derek King and Kelvin Jack.

The FIFA appointed Normalisation Committee (NC) of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) served notice of termination to Senior Men’s National Team Head Coach Terry Fenwick.

Additionally, the NC has mutually parted company with Senior Men’s National Team Assistant Coach Derek King and is finalizing same with Assistant Coach Kelvin Jack.

Given the financial situation of the TTFA which threatens its ability to fund the coaches at the salary levels that were committed, the NC has met with Derek King and Kelvin Jack and have come to a mutually agreed position.

The NC wishes to thank Derek and Kelvin for their work, professionalism and sincere understanding. We wish them all the best in the future.

The TTFA will now prioritize its appointment of an Interim Head Coach together with a coaching staff next week, ahead of the Gold Cup Preliminary Round which takes place in early July 2021.

A selection panel led by NC Member Nicholas Gomez and comprising Anton Corneal, Anthony Sherwood and Richard Chinapoo will meet to finalize the selection of the Interim Head Coach. The Interim Head Coach together with the panel will then establish the supporting team.

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« Reply #1473 on: June 12, 2021, 01:26:14 AM »
Soca Warriors Head Coach Terry Fenwick sacked along with assistants Derek King and Kelvin Jack
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The Normalisation Committee serves notice of termination to Terry Fenwick and mutually parts company with Derek King and Kelvin Jack.

The FIFA appointed Normalisation Committee (NC) of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) served notice of termination to Senior Men’s National Team Head Coach Terry Fenwick.

Additionally, the NC has mutually parted company with Senior Men’s National Team Assistant Coach Derek King and is finalizing same with Assistant Coach Kelvin Jack.

Given the financial situation of the TTFA which threatens its ability to fund the coaches at the salary levels that were committed, the NC has met with Derek King and Kelvin Jack and have come to a mutually agreed position.

The NC wishes to thank Derek and Kelvin for their work, professionalism and sincere understanding. We wish them all(sic) the best in the future.

The TTFA will now prioritize its appointment of an Interim Head Coach together with a coaching staff next week, ahead of the Gold Cup Preliminary Round which takes place in early July 2021.

A selection panel led by NC Member Nicholas Gomez and comprising Anton Corneal, Anthony Sherwood and Richard Chinapoo will meet to finalize the selection of the Interim Head Coach. The Interim Head Coach together with the panel will then establish the supporting team.

1. The heading is not as moderate or tempered as one would expect for a federation press release (for instance, alternatively, it could have been vetted to state 'Change in national team technical staff').

It seems an appropriate headline for a newspaper article.

Might be because there's a measure of subliminal venom and intended strong messaging to the global public in light of the outgoing coach's attempt to frustrate his last rites or to orchestrate his departure.

2. The release makes a clear distinction between how Fenwick was disengaged (notice of termination) and how King and Jack were disengaged (mutuality). That is, a lack of amicability versus the presence of amicability. One went dragged out (although still locked in) and the others with a measure of dignity.

3. The sentence 'We wish them all the best in the future' is curious in its placement. Its placement suggests that it is a reference to King and Jack. However, the use of the word 'all' is inconsistent as a reference to merely two persons.

Separating that sentence as a distinct paragraph would unambiguously render the 'all' as applying to the three coaches. Leaving it as it is constructed is tantalizingly nebulous or mischievous, whether by accident or design. Some parting shot that would be in response to any head butt. Maybe, just maybe, only two coaches are genuinely wished well.

Regardless, there's no mistaking the absence of accident in the headline.

4. Perhaps in a nod to a lesson learned from the disgruntled reactions that accompanied the naming of the assistant coaches for the WNT, the release removes a repeat of angry questions concerning the selection process, in the case of the MNT, by stating an outline of how the coaching staff is to be identified for the Gold Cup cycle (leaks and rumours notwithstanding).
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Think of the 2022 conversation regarding reparations as the item tabled for future discussion when initially raised for negotiation during talks in 1834. A lot of intere$t has accrued.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1474 on: June 12, 2021, 01:47:07 AM »
A word of caution to the NC:

Do NOT commit to engaging the Interim Head Coach on a full-time basis based exclusively on performance/qualification/ tournament progress/ other similar configuration.
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Think of the 2022 conversation regarding reparations as the item tabled for future discussion when initially raised for negotiation during talks in 1834. A lot of intere$t has accrued.

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« Reply #1475 on: June 12, 2021, 06:03:10 AM »
A word of caution to the NC:

Do NOT commit to engaging the Interim Head Coach on a full-time basis based exclusively on performance/qualification/ tournament progress/ other similar configuration.
On what basis should the Interim Head Coach be engaged?

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« Reply #1476 on: June 12, 2021, 10:10:36 AM »
A word of caution to the NC:

Do NOT commit to engaging the Interim Head Coach on a full-time basis based exclusively on performance/qualification/ tournament progress/ other similar configuration.
On what basis should the Interim Head Coach be engaged?

See the Thread....... WHAT WE NEED IN A COACH

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« Reply #1477 on: June 12, 2021, 10:30:13 AM »
A word of caution to the NC:

Do NOT commit to engaging the Interim Head Coach on a full-time basis based exclusively on performance/qualification/ tournament progress/ other similar configuration.
On what basis should the Interim Head Coach be engaged?

I'll respond in possibly two parts. One here and the other, if necessary, separately.

The range of requisites and considerations for fulfilling the interim role are exceeded by the range of requisites and considerations for the longer-term position. Progression through the tournament should be a discussion starter, rather than constitute securing of the longer term role. 

Substantive response

The first concern is a durational concern: what period should the interim appointment span. Tied to this is defining the precise objective of the interim appointment and the precise benefit sought.

Proposition 1: The interim period should be narrowly construed and construed as narrowly as pragmatic.

The Gold Cup Preliminary Tournament spans July 2 - July 6. The Gold Cup runs from July 10 - August 1. The absence of an appropriate transitional period between July 6 and July 10 suggests that the interim period should contemplate the Preliminary Tournament and the Gold Cup.

If qualification for the GC does not occur, the start of the identification process for a permanent NT coach would and should be triggered on either July 2 or July 6. If GC qualification occurs, the date on which the longer-term identification process is triggered is dependent on the date of GC exit.

Proposition 2: During the interim period, the selection committee should be engaged in orienting itself with alternative candidates for the FT role. It is not necessary that the interim coach have an interest in the longer-term position or be considered for the longer-term role. Indeed that parameter must be defined, either positively or negatively at the outset. It has to be clear. Regardless, that parallel process should be engaged in as a contingency.

The NT appointment is a multiyear assignment and project, of which we can be beneficiaries due to our early elimination. We are 1.5 years away from the start of the Qatar WC and 3.5 years before the 2026 cycle. That's better than borrowed time.

Proposition 3: The larger quantum of that time we use sensibly the better (tied to Proposition 2).

The GC tournament is a solitary event similar in format to the actual WC and demands many of the management challenges tied to a WC. As such, it is a reasonable template for observation of decision-making. However, the focus of the hire should be on a candidate who can progress the competencies and sophistication of the team in keeping with the modern evolution of the game. That is, beyond results, the hire is charged with transformation. If the hire is not a transformative hire, we would be squandering borrowed time. Ground floor transformation. Transformation of culture. Root and branch transformation.

Twinning continuity in the gig merely on the basis of progression through the tournament would be short-sighted because that would ignore some critical dimensions of the job not implicated during the tournament and ignore concerns that ought not be ignored within the dysfunction of the present football ecosystem.

The FIFA windows for 2021 are August 30-September 8 and October 4-October 13.

Proposition 4: The assignment of the longer-term role should commence during the first of these windows. 

That is an on balance call, a question of interpretation and the subject of cost-benefit analysis.

The alternative assignment of the longer-term role would be the January 2022 window. In which event, there could be more than one interim appointment. That may seem inefficient or counterintuitive, but it yields a prospective benefit. However, as a caveat, in terms of timing, it should be considered that mid-year assignments tend to limit the pool of best qualified candidates. That stated, timing is not an insurmountable hurdle if the identification of the eventual candidate is targeted strategically.
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Think of the 2022 conversation regarding reparations as the item tabled for future discussion when initially raised for negotiation during talks in 1834. A lot of intere$t has accrued.

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« Reply #1478 on: June 12, 2021, 10:39:08 AM »
As much as I feel that TF did not prove himself. Let's not get it twisted with the NC. They are very opportunistic. They are using this opportunity to show that they are looking in the best interest of TT football.

The stories are  coming out about TF and the last 2 games. Apparently he couldn't build rapport with the team.

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« Reply #1479 on: June 12, 2021, 10:41:17 AM »
As much as I feel that TF did not prove himself. Let's not get it twisted with the NC. They are very opportunistic. They are using this opportunity to show that they are looking in the best interest of TT football.

The stories are  coming out about TF and the last 2 games. Apparently he couldn't build the rapport with the team.

This decision was too easy. Did not require an immense degree of insight. Inaction would have imploded the NC's wounded credibility.
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Think of the 2022 conversation regarding reparations as the item tabled for future discussion when initially raised for negotiation during talks in 1834. A lot of intere$t has accrued.

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« Reply #1480 on: June 12, 2021, 10:44:48 AM »
As much as I feel that TF did not prove himself. Let's not get it twisted with the NC. They are very opportunistic. They are using this opportunity to show that they are looking in the best interest of TT football.

The stories are  coming out about TF and the last 2 games. Apparently he couldn't build the rapport with the team.

This decision was too easy. Did not require an immense degree of insight. Inaction would have imploded the NC's wounded credibility.

Yeah kind of doing the obvious. . An opportunity to appease the fans.

BTW, how long will this NC be involved in TT football?

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« Reply #1481 on: June 12, 2021, 11:28:37 AM »
As much as I feel that TF did not prove himself. Let's not get it twisted with the NC. They are very opportunistic. They are using this opportunity to show that they are looking in the best interest of TT football.

The stories are  coming out about TF and the last 2 games. Apparently he couldn't build the rapport with the team.

This decision was too easy. Did not require an immense degree of insight. Inaction would have imploded the NC's wounded credibility.

Yeah kind of doing the obvious. . An opportunity to appease the fans.

BTW, how long will this NC be involved in TT football?

At this point, hopefully as long as possible. We are not in a place of transition to elections or independence, despite the hiccups. Venezuela had a NC imposed more or less around the same time and they are out. Despite that, Venezuela is an exceptional circumstance for some other reasons.
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Think of the 2022 conversation regarding reparations as the item tabled for future discussion when initially raised for negotiation during talks in 1834. A lot of intere$t has accrued.

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« Reply #1482 on: June 12, 2021, 11:51:15 AM »
As much as I feel that TF did not prove himself. Let's not get it twisted with the NC. They are very opportunistic. They are using this opportunity to show that they are looking in the best interest of TT football.

The stories are  coming out about TF and the last 2 games. Apparently he couldn't build the rapport with the team.

This decision was too easy. Did not require an immense degree of insight. Inaction would have imploded the NC's wounded credibility.

Yeah kind of doing the obvious. . An opportunity to appease the fans.

BTW, how long will this NC be involved in TT football?

At this point, hopefully as long as possible. We are not in a place of transition to elections or independence, despite the hiccups. Venezuela had a NC imposed more or less around the same time and they are out. Despite that, Venezuela is an exceptional circumstance for some other reasons.

I never looked at it that way. In a way the NC is all we got, which is kind of like "40 acres and a mule".

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The case for Terry Fenwick
« Reply #1483 on: June 12, 2021, 12:06:34 PM »
The case for Terry Fenwick
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I have heard the clarion call from this country’s football fans for the resignation of senior men’s national coach Terry Fenwick.

This follows our exit from the FIFA World Cup set for Qatar next year.

It was a bitter pill to swallow and if all things were equal the buck stops with head coach Fenwick and his technical staff.

But, in this case, all things were not equal. Let’s be fair to the former England international and do some serious introspection.

All of our home matches were played on foreign soil because of the Covid–19 pandemic.

To give up home advantage during World Cup qualifiers is deemed sacrilegious in the football community.

The Ministry of Sport, the TTFA, the Ministry of Health and the Government did not go the extra mile to assist in this area.

Any country serious about its World Cup campaign will have pulled out all the stops to ensure Fenwick and his Soca Warriors were ready for the challenge ahead.

Football fans, a World Cup journey is not Play Whe; there’s no luck and chance, but rather it requires careful planning, preparation and execution.

Can anyone tell me if this was done? How come despite the pandemic other Caribbean countries such as Jamaica were able to have friendly internationals?

Fenwick had one, if my memory serves me right and this was a one-off game against the United States. This was done to assess and recruit players in one shot. We all can recall the catastrophic result of that experiment.

Reading about and listening to the wide range of reasons why Fenwick should be fired, I found former senior team national women’s coach Jamaal Shabazz to be the most sincere of the lot.

Shabazz is quoted as saying nobody should be shedding crocodile tears and, it is easy to lynch Terry Fenwick. But we must take collective responsibility for bringing the game to this damnable state in the post-Jack Warner era.

The old adage still holds — what goes on off the field affects what happens on the field of play.

The court battle involving FIFA, William Wallace, duly elected president of the TTFA, and the Normalisation Committee appointed by FIFA readily comes to mind.

If this country’s football fans are looking for a fall guy for the dire straits the game finds itself currently then, the 1986 England World Cup defender is the man. I rest my case.

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« Reply #1484 on: June 12, 2021, 12:17:33 PM »
The case for Terry Fenwick
T&T Express

I have heard the clarion call from this country’s football fans for the resignation of senior men’s national coach Terry Fenwick.

This follows our exit from the FIFA World Cup set for Qatar next year.

It was a bitter pill to swallow and if all things were equal the buck stops with head coach Fenwick and his technical staff.

But, in this case, all things were not equal. Let’s be fair to the former England international and do some serious introspection.

All of our home matches were played on foreign soil because of the Covid–19 pandemic.( Canada had the same situation)BFD

To give up home advantage during World Cup qualifiers is deemed sacrilegious in the football community.( BS- its about  how we playing the game - the fans are not on the field- If a player is  depending on the fans to  assist at this level, something is wrong)

The Ministry of Sport, the TTFA, the Ministry of Health and the Government did not go the extra mile to assist in this area. ( (deflection from the fact that a coach coaches and players play despite all the external factors)

Any country serious about its World Cup campaign will have pulled out all the stops to ensure Fenwick and his Soca Warriors were ready for the challenge ahead. ( ( what could have been done ready to ensure readiness by NC?) Did Haiti do something differently in their preparation?

Football fans, a World Cup journey is not Play Whe; there’s no luck and chance, but rather it requires careful planning, preparation and execution. This lies squarely on the coach and players

Can anyone tell me if this was done? How come despite the pandemic other Caribbean countries such as Jamaica were able to have friendly internationals?

Fenwick had one, if my memory serves me right and this was a one-off game against the United States. This was done to assess and recruit players in one shot. We all can recall the catastrophic result of that experiment.

Reading about and listening to the wide range of reasons why Fenwick should be fired, I found former senior team national women’s coach Jamaal Shabazz to be the most sincere of the lot.

Shabazz is quoted as saying nobody should be shedding crocodile tears and, it is easy to lynch Terry Fenwick. But we must take collective responsibility for bringing the game to this damnable state in the post-Jack Warner era. YUH GO BASE THAT SENNE ON ONE WHO IS A DISSENT AND HAD HIS CRACK AT NATIONAL TEAM AND FAILED STEUIPS

The old adage still holds — what goes on off the field affects what happens on the field of play.

The court battle involving FIFA, William Wallace, duly elected president of the TTFA, and the Normalisation Committee appointed by FIFA readily comes to mind.

If this country’s football fans are looking for a fall guy for the dire straits the game finds itself currently then, the 1986 England World Cup defender is the man. I rest my case.

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« Reply #1485 on: June 14, 2021, 02:34:53 AM »
I willing to give Eve ah chance, Fenwick who plenty people on here wanted to give ah chance got his and did f**k all, to quote d english, so given d shit state we find ourselves in, he is d best budget candidate for this interim role local bias notwithstanding

Fenwick emerged as a consensus candidate, had support, had his chance, rose to some challenges, did not overcome other challenges, squandered goodwill and fell to a reasonable accounting at the appropriate moment (the end of the qualifying round).

In some matters he projected as professional, in others impatient, in some transparently political and in others as lacking diplomacy and restraint. What he didn't project was a defensible or convincing template of play regardless of the players involved. His downfall is due to that last item - the thing it was most important to get right.

Nonetheless, he's still left with the possibility of parading or peddling his win-loss record and club achievements within the Caribbean, where one of the "minnows" or adventurous teams may find his credentials or rehabilitation attractive. Yuh just never know.

 
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« Reply #1486 on: June 14, 2021, 06:33:00 AM »
I willing to give Eve ah chance, Fenwick who plenty people on here wanted to give ah chance got his and did f**k all, to quote d english, so given d shit state we find ourselves in, he is d best budget candidate for this interim role local bias notwithstanding

Fenwick emerged as a consensus candidate, had support, had his chance, rose to some challenges, did not overcome other challenges, squandered goodwill and fell to a reasonable accounting at the appropriate moment (the end of the qualifying round).

In some matters he projected as professional, in others impatient, in some transparently political and in others as lacking diplomacy and restraint. What he didn't project was a defensible or convincing template of play regardless of the players involved. His downfall is due to that last item - the thing it was most important to get right.

Nonetheless, he's still left with the possibility of parading or peddling his win-loss record and club achievements within the Caribbean, where one of the "minnows" or adventurous teams may find his credentials or rehabilitation attractive. Yuh just never know.
Very well articulated - succinct and in many ways indicative of what we saw. He indeed has an experience a pedigree of playing at a high level and success at the local level but the ability to demonstrate at the coaching ranks at the level required during his tenure was sadly not evident. Maybe working alongside a more seasoned  coach like Beenhaker might have been worthwhile.

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Normalisation Committee: Terry Fenwick sacked due to ‘affordability issue’
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday)


ANGUS EVE, the new coach of the T&T men’s football team, has been handed a performance-based contract, according to Robert Hadad, chairman of the FIFA-appointed normalisation committee, which oversees the affairs of the T&T Football Association (TTFA).

Hadad made this disclosure during an interview on Monday afternoon, moments after a Zoom media conference, organised by the TTFA, which introduced Eve as the replacement for the sacked Terry Fenwick.

On Saturday, Eve was hired on an interim basis, until August 31.

Hadad declined to say if Eve’s salary will be on par with Fenwick’s earnings of US$20,000 per month.

Asked about Eve’s salary, Hadad replied, “It has been decided but that is private, and I would not like to reveal that just yet. What I can tell you is his salary is based – a big part of it – on performance.”

Fenwick took over from Dennis Lawrence as T&T coach on a two-year deal, effective January 1, 2020, with the understanding that he would be paid US$17,500/month with other bonuses. In the incentive package, Fenwick’s salary would have increased to US$20,000/month if the team qualified for the 2021 Concacaf Gold Cup.

However, an agreement was signed by former TTFA president William Wallace, ex-general secretary Ramesh Ramdhan and Fenwick which meant that Fenwick would get a starting salary of US$20,000/month and would have increased to US$25,000/month if the team earned a spot in the Gold Cup.

Earlier this month, T&T, under the guidance of Fenwick, were eliminated from the 2022 FIFA World Cup Concacaf Zone first round qualifiers, after they failed to top Group F. T&T finished second with eight points, one point behind St Kitts/Nevis.

The national team will be involved in the Gold Cup qualification stage at Fort Lauderdale, Florida, United States.

On July 2, T&T will meet Montserrat while, a day later, Cuba will oppose French Guiana. The winners of those matches will square off on July 6 for a Gold Cup spot, in Group A (alongside Curacao, El Salvador and Mexico).

According to Hadad, Fenwick is still owed outstanding salaries and that matter is being dealt with by the normalisation committee.

“He was paid from January to April of this year,” Hadad said. “We are owing him, I believe, about six months from last year. We’re owing him another two months (from) this year. We will have to negotiate what happens with his salary from now till the end of the year.”

Concerning the salaries of Fenwick’s assistant coaches Derek King and Kelvin Jack, Hadad mentioned, “We’ve agreed on a settlement with them already and they’ve been really great about it. Both of them have understood our affordability issue and we’re paying them up until the end of June. They’ve been very kind to the Association and T&T football.”

During the media conference, normalisation committee member Nicholas Gomez revealed that Fenwick’s dismissal as T&T coach last week was not only due to the World Cup elimination but financial issues as well.

“This matter has purely to deal with the affordability issue,” Gomez said. “The Association has been challenged financially. Some of the arrangements that were established before the normalisation committee came in, just have proven not to be affordable.”

Gomez continued, “We had to make a judgement call and determination as to how we deal with it. Our approach was to deal with it in the way that we had. We’ve taken this measure on that basis.”

Were the team’s performances used as means to dismiss Fenwick as coach? Gomez responded, “Trinidad and Tobago (have) not been satisfied with the outcome, having been eliminated from the World Cup qualifiers. The impact of that is quite significant on the Association, and the players. Whilst we had to deal with that, the fact is we remained very uncomfortable with the arrangements that were in place.

“This was always a matter that was of concern for us. We attempted to have conversations in that context but it did not lead to any different outcome. We took the opportunity to make a decision. We’re hoping that this measure is going to create an opportunity, a change in leadership, a change in tone, a change in culture, some inspiration and motivation for the players.”
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How about Terry Fenwick to work with... the devolopment, the identification, the training and promotion of a locally based National squad?
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Fenwick targets Florida camp ahead of WC qualifiers.
By Jelani Beckles (T&T Newsday).


A CAMP in Florida is being planned by Terry Fenwick to give the T&T men’s senior national head coach the opportunity to have a closer look at the US-based T&T players and allow those players to gel with the local-based players.

The countdown is on for the national footballers as the Concacaf World Cup qualifiers are less than three months away.

T&T will start its World Cup qualifying campaign on March 25 against Guyana in Group F.

The group also features Puerto Rico, Bahamas and St Kitts and Nevis.

T&T are currently the highest-ranked team in the group at 105th in the world. St Kitts and Nevis are ranked 139th, Guyana 166th, Puerto Rico 178th and Bahamas 195th.

T&T have been short of preparation leading into the qualifiers as in 2020 the national team did not play any competitive matches because of covid19 and the grappling between FIFA and the United TT Football Association (TTFA). The dispute led to FIFA banning TTFA for two months from September to November. Club football was also at a standstill in T&T during 2020 which kept the players inactive.

“I am hoping to put a camp together in Miami…whereby we can bring in all of the North American players that are available for us for World Cup (qualifiers),” Fenwick told Newsday during a national team training session at the St James Police Barracks, on Sunday.

Fenwick said the camp will help the US-based players and local-based players form a cohesive unit. “We can bring them in. We could bring the best kids that we got available on the ground in T&T, so we merge them together. That will be the start of me putting my squad together for World Cup (qualifiers).”

The camp is expected to last between ten days and two weeks before the qualifiers begin.

Fenwick said most of his squad for the upcoming matches will be foreign-based players because they are match fit.

“There is no doubt that most of my squad, if not all, will be from US, UK generally. Players that are playing in leagues that are competing (and) that are match fit. We have identified a host of new players that when they hit the ground here in Trinidad it will be a shock to most, but I rather leave that until they’re here so we don’t disappoint.”

Fenwick said he will not be able to travel to England to meet T&T footballers based there because the country is under a covid19 lockdown.

“That might be difficult, but I have already identified as many as eight or nine players that I have identified in the UK that are playing at a very good level.”

Fenwick said the UK-based players should be available for the World Cup qualifiers because those matches are played in a FIFA window which allows the players to leave their respective clubs to represent their country.

After Fenwick sees the UK-based players in person he will have to make a quick decision to determine what players fit the team goal.

“When we get them for the World Cup playoff games that will be in FIFA windows so that will be for a week, ten days maximum.

“They are coming in and the first time I see them will be right before the World Cup qualifiers, so I then got to make quick and decisive decisions on my team.”
So what's new? The same formula of that is been going on for centuries in our national team selection. Put together a " jokey local squad" hold training sessions knowing full well that this is just a transitional team to demonstrate  that a coach I'd doing work and in this case getting 20k us a month! Then wait and hastily bring in the foreign star boys to bolster the rooster!!!
There is not intent to create a solid local competitive culture that would make earning a spot on the team a level of accomplishment.
How did the present squad earn a tryout? What was the criteria? I suggested before that we employ:
A zonal competition- North South East West Tobago-tournament format- select a local squad following this playoff- take that squad to  UK /USA to play those identified as potential players that could represent TnT-
Then pick a national team to play any aganist - Anguilla, India, Venezuela, and any others who are looking to beat we up.
This old formula of just bringing inforeign base players knowing they have secured a position on the team has not been working over a sustainable time for TnT.
Our national team selection needs a new model of creating a competitive climate and establishing a route to success that would be in brained throughout the process- playerswould be acclimitiazing to the process of qualifing for a position locally- getting use to travelling to play foreign players vying for a position prior to playing against other countries. This is incentive laden from the get go. There are current players going through the motions knowing that as soon as the foreign based player is available their position or chance of making the final cut is nonexistent - likewise there are foreign based players who know they can waltz in and be guaranteed a spot on the team.
This  process is missing in terms of player development, competitive nurturing, team dynamics and a transparent fair opportunity of selecting the most formidable team. Talent alone will not cut it!!!

There are the intangibles for a local player  wanting to make that team  so asto procure possible future contracts- foreign players to establish leverage with foreign based clubs- an opportunity it's to be on the biggest stage.

Presently the system in place is deficient and that deficiency will be a deficit and deterrent as the competition intensifies - thenthe sameo.d rants would be played out about coaching and players - without use et giving a thought to the system we have in place from selection of players to coaches.
How possible is it during COVID to travel to US knowing you have to quarantine - set up a camp bring in players from other states and conduct sessions? What testing are available for players? How will the safety of players be ensured? There are some logistics here that given the current situation appears to be missing.

Would it be more feasible to establish a safe secured environment in Trinidad or Tobago invite foreign based players to a try out camp select potential players and then have a mini tournament?

All the way you are building a competitive climate and providing opportunities for development. It is not a given that the starting spots guaranteed are - if you are local and a goalie ( this is short sighted - thinking that technically this position is the least of consideration) secondly if you are a foreign based " star boy" no sweat we holding that position and begging for your services.
 Time to stop this madness  _ Time to earn your selection- earn your place - the same way for us to get another shot at WCis that we have to earn that spot. Create this thinking - time to transform the way we are currently operating. It's insane to be doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.

So hold on - If a Trinidad squad plays a Tobago squad that is considered an international friendly? wait nah but what the arse is this? Same country  are we not?

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Before you talk friendlies- let's get some local interest and also build some internal competition for place on team
A series of-
North v south
North, South, Tobago
TnT locals versus Foreign eligible players
Then select an X1

For  friendliest- home and away :
Venezuela - that will incite interest in TnT
Curaçao
Guyana
India
Nigeria
Jamaica
Bangladesh
Samoa
Anguilla

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« Reply #1490 on: June 15, 2021, 10:56:49 PM »
How about Terry Fenwick to work with... the devolopment, the identification, the training and promotion of a locally based National squad?
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You mean U-23/Olympic squad ?

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« Reply #1491 on: June 27, 2021, 09:07:26 AM »
The Bad Wolf at the door
By Denyse Renne (T&T Express)


Part 1 of an investigation into football scholarships in Trinidad and Tobago.

Fired T&T national football coach Terry Fenwick is at the centre of a tangled web of requests for funding for football scholarships through Irish company Bad Wolf Sports into which Police Commissioner Gary Griffith, an English private school and the Lancashire police have become entangled.

A months-long Sunday Express investigation has revealed that Bad Wolf Sports, which names Fenwick as its technical director, misrepresented international contracts and partnerships it claimed to have obtained over time to bolster its chances in securing scholarship money from the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS) for young T&T nationals.

The proposed partnership saw the TTPS Sports Club authorising a wire transfer of £20,000 to Bad Wolf Sports on May 11, 2021 and then withdrawing it.

General Secretary of the Sports Club, Insp Joshua Pierre, and Trustee Anson Springer were signatories to the transfer which requested, “the full amount as well as related charges should be deducted from our Interdepartmental Account #23***** which is held at this Branch (One Woodbrook Place), Woodbrook”.

Documents seen by the Sunday Express state the funds were to create and deliver on-island B-TEC Sporting Scholarship Programmes (Levels 2 and 3) for identified and qualifying scholars across Trinidad and Tobago”.

In correspondence seen by the Sunday Express, Bad Wolf Sports claimed it had entered into a partnership with UK-based private school Moorland for the programme.

When the cash was wired from the TTPS Sports Club account, no structure was in place for the scholarship programme since talks between Moorland and Bad Wolf had been placed on the back burner.

The funds were deposited into the TTPS Sports Club account at First Citizens Bank, One Woodbrook Place, by donors affiliated with the 2019 Commissioners Cup tournament.

By letter dated June 1, 2021, Pierre wrote the manager of First Citizens, One Woodbrook Place, instructing that a “Stop Order with Immediate Effect” be placed on the wired funds. The bank acknowledged receipt of the request on June 2, 2021.

A search conducted by the Sunday Express via the United Kingdom Company Registry revealed that Bad Wolf Sports Ltd (company number 679163) was set up on Thursday October 8, 2020. Its current partial address is Kildare, Ireland.

The company’s managing director is Perry Deakin while directors are Peter Miller and Sarah Deakin. Bad Wolf’s website lists Fenwick as its technical director.

Miller is a former marketing director at the T&T Football Association (TTFA) and previously held the position of chief executive officer at the now defunct Football Company of T&T (FCTT).

E-mail exchanges

By e-mail dated February 7, 2021, Miller (peter.miller@badwolfsports.ie) wrote to Fenwick (terryfenwick@hotmail.co.uk) under the subject line, “Requested Information for Gary Griffith re Moorland School and Football Factory Foundation).” In the email, Miller refers to the scholarship programme and partnership between Moorland and the Football Factory Foundation (FFF) as “ground-breaking”.

FFF, a charitable sports organisation operated by Fenwick, had teamed up with the TTPS in 2019 to host the Commissioner’s Cup. (An invoice for that programme was sent to the TTPS by the FFF for $995,000).

In the February 7 email, Miller stated that Griffith had been invited to be the programme’s ambassador alongside football great Yaya Touré.

Ivory Coast-born Touré is a retired professional footballer and was voted African Footballer of the Year 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014. He has played for Manchester City and Barcelona.

Miller wrote, “to complement the programme a mirror ‘Shoot Goals Not Guns’ community outreach programme will be facilitated in Lancashire working with Lancashire Police Force. Gary Griffith has been invited to be the programme Ambassador along with Yaya Toure as its Ambassador.”

He stated that Griffith would be required to liaise with the Lancashire Police Force, “with a view to reciprocal initiatives linked to the programme. It is hoped/proposed that this initiative be replicated throughout the Caribbean Region over the next five years.”

Further, Miller stated the partnership with Moorland required an annual residential fee of £34,000. The first year was to consist of a virtual academy conducted by FFF to the tune of £10,000 where students would be exposed to “vital learning plus actual coaching”, according to Miller.

The first group of students was to begin in a programme in May 2021, and as such all annual fees needed to be paid in advance, Miller wrote.

Miller said to facilitate this “ground-breaking initiative” a minimum of ten students were required which cost $1 million. A second group of ten students was planned for a July/August, 2021 intake.

That same e-mail was forwarded on February 10, 2021 by Miller to another e-mail address used by Fenwick via email address twf@me.com, in which Deakin was copied.

On February 11, 2021, Fenwick via e-mail address twf@me.com, forwarded Miller’s February 7, 2021 e-mail to Griffith at captaingarygriffith@hotmail.com.

Three months later, on May 8, 2021, Fenwick forwarded the same February 7, 2021 email to Sgt Joshua Pierre (joshuapierre@yahoo.com) of the TTPS Sports Club stating “FYI”. Fenwick also copied Deakin on it.

Bad Wolf writes Griffith:

Where’s the money?

In a letter dated April 12, 2021 addressed to Commissioner Gary Griffith, Bad Wolf Sports managing director Perry Deakin stated his company was working alongside Moorland Private School to create and deliver the B-TEC Sporting and Scholarship Programme.

Further, Deakin wrote that Bad Wolf was awaiting payment of $800,000 (to be made in two equal payments of $400,000) to secure up to five scholarship spaces.

“This payment will include 12 months scholarship education for all scholars, including delivery of practical ‘coaching’ elements, all associated cost and fees in negotiating, identifying and registering of scholars, all fees associated with establishing the programme, all fees in relation to on-going liaison with Moorland Private School, on island management of the programme and ongoing assessment of individual scholars, required in order to achieve educational and practical standards of the qualification,” Deakin wrote.

Moorland: We never dealt with TTPS

On April 13, 2021 Moorland Private School Head Teacher and proprietor Jonathan Harrison wrote Griffith via e-mail indicating his school was working in partnership with “Bad Wolf Sports of Dublin, Republic of Ireland in the identification, negotiation, registration and delivery of BTEC Sporting Scholarships”.

On June 16, 2021, the Sunday Express contacted Moorland Private School seeking a comment from Harrison on the letter. We were informed he was on leave. When told what the query was about, a senior administrator of the school indicated she was familiar with Bad Wolf Sports since the company had partnered with the school.

Bad Wolf had reached out to the school earlier this year stating they wanted a football partnership, the representative said.

Moorland thought nothing was untoward since sporting clubs and agencies worldwide have partnered with them in the past.

“They (Bad Wolf) approached us. The police service (TTPS) have not come into this at all, as far as we are concerned. This is the first time we are hearing about them (TTPS). Our correspondences have always been with Mr Deakin and Mr Miller where they expressed interest in the B-TEC programme,” she said.

She however said nothing was cemented and everything was still at the planning stage.

The administrator also said talks between Bad Wolf and the school had been “placed on the back-burner” since the company has been missing scheduled meetings and constantly changing dates.

Moorland’s website names its international partners as including Progressive Sports Asia (official Hong Kong partner) and the Dream Team Soccer School (official Cyprus partner). The listing does not name Bad Wolf Sports or Football Factory Foundation.

Lancashire Police press officer: Just a bit suspicious

On June 1, 2021 the Sunday Express spoke via telephone with press officer Gareth Vickers of the media relations department of the Lancashire Police Force.

Commenting on Miller’s correspondence to Fenwick, the press officer said, “We have no knowledge of it (programme). I am afraid we have no knowledge of where this is coming from. I have asked a couple of colleagues and they have all come back without any further information, so we are a bit in the dark about this.”

Vickers said with any such initiative/project involving the police force, “there is a likelihood we would have been told about it and no one has any knowledge of it whatsoever. I would certainly know if we were working alongside a sovereign police commissioner or a sovereign police force, I am just a bit suspicious.. it does not sound quite official”.
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« Reply #1492 on: June 28, 2021, 07:36:58 AM »
Football freeco and the Commissioner's Cup
By Denyse Renne (T&T Express)


Part II of an investigation into football scholarships in Trinidad and Tobago.

THE T&T Police Service (TTPS) approached State-owned National Lotteries Control Board (NLCB) in 2019 seeking sponsorship to the tune of $1 million to offset costs associated with the Commissioner’s Cup.

The request was made during a presentation in early 2019 to the NLCB by Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith, who was armed with an invoice dated May 27, 2019 submitted by the Football Factory Foundation (FFF) headed by then-national football coach Terry Fenwick.

FFF is a charitable sports organisation operated by Fenwick, which had teamed up with the TTPS in 2019 to host the Commissioner’s Cup.

The May 27 invoice submitted by Fenwick addressed to the TTPS gave a cost of $995,000 for being retained by the TTPS as a coordinator/consultant for the Cup.

The breakdown of the invoice was as follows:

* Scholarship Mobilisation fees—$100,000

* Administrative Staff salaries—$190,000

* Technical Staff salaries—$235,200

*Equipment, uniforms—$250,000

* Marketing and Promotions—$100,000

* Academy Grounds Rental, Maintenance and Security—$49,200

*Transportation ($70,800).

NLCB rejected $1m request

Speaking with the Sunday Express on May 31, NLCB chairman Eustace Nancis said the NLCB supported the 2019 Commissioner’s Cup but was unable to donate the requested $1 million.

“The first year it (Cup) came off, we sponsored an allocated sum. No, they (TTPS) did not get the million. We can only give what was our in-house limit. Additional approval for more money would have to come from the relevant authority (Ministry of Finance),” Nancis said.

The house limit at the time was $150,000.

Despite not getting the lion’s share of the requested sponsorship, by Memorandum dated July 1, 2019, addressed to Head, Finance of the TTPS under the subject, “Approval for Payment of Mobilisation: Football Factory Foundation”, Griffith signed and directed that the FFF be paid close to $.3 million.

“Please be advised that approval has been granted for the sum of two hundred and ninety-eight thousand,five hundred ($298,500) for the mobilisation of the Commissioner’s Cup. See attached outstanding invoice from Football Factory Foundation,” Griffith wrote.

Rush to upgrade football, hockey fields

Questions have also been raised about the free use of the two football fields and a hockey field at the Police Academy, St James Barracks, for training for the national team following Fenwick’s appointment as national coach.

Remedial works on these two fields began without funds being available. Quotes were obtained and orders placed for construction materials.

The TTPS borrowed cash from its Sports Club, promising to repay within a ten-month timeframe.

The Sports Club is funded by its membership (police officers) who make a monthly contribution via $20 salary deductions.

On February 26, 2021, United States-based company Henko Adhesives and Tools billed the TTPS Sports Club US$11,607.

On March 26, 2021, Superior Landscaping and General Contracting Co Ltd from Gasparillo billed the Sports Club $97,312.50.

A break-down of the cost includes:

*200 tonnes Guyana silica sand—$70,000 (per ten tonnes)

*Transportation of silica sand (per ten-tonne load)—$15,000

*One rental of loader—$1,500

Subtotal—$86,500

VAT: $10,812.50

Total: $97,312.50

Additionally on March, 31, 2021, Superior billed the Sports Club $136,687.50 as follows:

*9,000 sq metre—installation of shockpad—$40,500

*9,000 sq metre—installation of artificial turf—$45,000

*9,000 sq metre—to dress turf surface with silica sand and brush into turf fibre as recommended by supplier (14kg per square metre)—$36,000

*Duration of work: 2-3 weeks

Overall total with VAT—$136,687.50

Memo for funds

By memo dated February 25, 2021, the general secretary of the Sports Club, Insp Joshua Pierre, wrote to Griffith under the heading, “Hockey Field upgrade and Associated Costs.”

Pierre made reference to a letter written by Griffith dated February 8, 2021 requesting over $600,000 for this project.

Pierre responded, “The Management Committee of the Police Sports Club held its monthly meeting on Wednesday, February 24, 2021 via Zoom. Your request was introduced to the committee by the general secretary for debate and decision.”

After the committee was advised by the general secretary, a decision in principle was taken to contribute $342,000 towards the associated costs of the project with the following stipulation for discussion and final agreement.

“This money will be a loan from the Division and Branches Fund. 1. A Memorandum of Understanding for repayment of the loan granted.”

The money was loaned to the TTPS on two conditions—that the TTPS submit a signed statement that the monies loaned be reimbursed as soon as the Ministry of Sport released the funds, and due to the rushed request from Griffith, a commercial projection be presented showing how the monies can be reimbursed within ten months of the loan.

On March 5,2021, head of Planning Research and Project Implementation of the TTPS, Salisha Gomes Andrews, wrote to Pierre thanking him for the club’s financial support of $342,000.

Freeco for Fenwick

In the past, rent was paid for use of the TTPS football grounds.

In some cases, the rental fees were waived based on individuals or organisations seeking its use. Such decisions are made via the management committee.

However, use of the fields was free for the national squad under Fenwick. Previously, the T&T senior men’s team training sessions always took place at either the Couva-based Ato Boldon Stadium or Hasely Crawford Stadium. The no-cost arrangement was made by without the management committee’s involvement, the Express was told.

The management committee of the Sports Club was also told that the Ministry of Sport wished to partner in the sporting initiative and promised to provide financial assistance.

The Commissioner’s Cup

It was a sporting event touted as a tool in the fight against crime.

Titled the “Commissioner’s Cup Football Tournament”, the initiative was a collaborative effort of the TTPS through its Community Policing Unit, the T&T Football Association (TTFA) and the FFF.

Griffith described the aim then as being able to allow individuals from communities a chance to secure football scholarships overseas through the FFF.

At the March 19, 2019 launch, Griffith told the media, “Sports, especially football, can serve as a catalyst for creating stronger and closer communities and create a pool of talent for future TTPS football teams and, by extension, the nation.”

Griffith said, “This initiative will assist in minimising nefarious activities within communities, encourage self-development while encouraging greater discipline among players and fostering camaraderie among teams.”

A statement by the TTPS later that day indicated the Commissioner’s Cup would play an integral role in fostering national development given that players attached to 46 youth clubs across the country would participate in 75 matches which will culminate in one major final.

Among the top prizes listed was the opportunity to receive football scholarships in the United Kingdom through the FFF and the Most Valuable Player (MVP) of the finals would be afforded the opportunity to travel with the TTFA to an international friendly match abroad.

Fenwick, who was also present at the launch, said: “This is a tremendous opportunity to promote football as a method of community integration. The Football Factory Foundation will deliver all technical aspects of the programme and will oversee a finals weekend which we hope can take place in early 2021. This is a project that revolves around a commitment to young people on a local level who can channel their energies in a positive way.”

The FFF was selected to partner with the TTPS over 25 other football clubs in T&T.

Fenwick was appointed by the TTFA in December 2019 as head coach of the senior men’s national team.
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Wtf. Nutten? No comment ? No defense? Just another day in TT ?

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« Reply #1494 on: June 30, 2021, 02:01:19 AM »
Wtf. Nutten? No comment ? No defense? Just another day in TT ?

Defense yuh want? Defense yuh getting! Offense and defense without transition.

Sense and nonsense intermingled.
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Think of the 2022 conversation regarding reparations as the item tabled for future discussion when initially raised for negotiation during talks in 1834. A lot of intere$t has accrued.

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« Reply #1495 on: June 30, 2021, 05:23:34 AM »
What makes TF a " Trini?  - he appears to like:
- bacchanal
- boboll
- rachifee
-  being a badjohn
- being Basa basa
- being bragadacious
-being boldface
- rum
- Trini women
- playing politics
- running TTFA
- living in TnT
- working the system
- Liming with people of influence
- could sh..t talk after a game
- is an authority on most things especially on how to run  football in TnT
- doing ah little ting to get ah food
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« Reply #1496 on: June 30, 2021, 10:22:15 AM »
Wtf. Nutten? No comment ? No defense? Just another day in TT ?

Defense yuh want? Defense yuh getting! Offense and defense without transition.

Sense and nonsense intermingled.
Good Defense, Plenty rolling on the ground feinting injury, plenty kick into the stands, plenty appealing to the ref for a help, even drawing on the stands for backings and support, but definitely no goals let in.  Noticed no mention of the FFF et al partnership team amongst others, maybe they held practice at another ground. Funny was, the attempt at a counter attack, without actually disrupting the facts presented by the manager of the opposing teams. Moving to the sidelines and calling them shithounds would not affect their abilities to penetrate any defense in the long run. As a betting man I feel the GG team will eventually bun, however as is normal for TT some other 'lawbreakers' (bachanal) or team(disruptive element) would most likely invade the field and temporarily, maybe permanently halt the game. Yet, the Rhythm section will manage to keep the vibes going while The Crowd and Media, just take in the new action, like normal. Depending on the length and size of that new event, we may or may not get back to this tournament, or what is cunningly called the Commissioner Cup or The Scholarship DSS.

Wonder if we could get Quentin Tarantino to direct something for we ? Anyway he probably wouldn't be able to keep up with the writers. We need a director of Series.
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« Reply #1497 on: June 30, 2021, 12:18:32 PM »
Wtf. Nutten? No comment ? No defense? Just another day in TT ?

Defense yuh want? Defense yuh getting! Offense and defense without transition.

Sense and nonsense intermingled.
I ent listen to the rebuttal yet, and only skim the original article a few days ago, but I can say that my 1st impression was that it was a really shoddy, incomplete set of journalism...with a lot of circumstantial evidence of wrongdoing, but nothing that would stand up in a court of law -- my thought was that maybe the media house put pressure on the journalist to publish before the case could be built and made stronger (publish too soon). In the end it just come off to me like a mad journalist with an axe to grind decide to publish some dirt on Gary (was this the same one who ask Gary how his son got on the team?)...kinda like in a smaller scale political campaign in the US.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1498 on: June 30, 2021, 01:05:47 PM »
Wtf. Nutten? No comment ? No defense? Just another day in TT ?

Defense yuh want? Defense yuh getting! Offense and defense without transition.

Sense and nonsense intermingled.
I ent listen to the rebuttal yet, and only skim the original article a few days ago, but I can say that my 1st impression was that it was a really shoddy, incomplete set of journalism...with a lot of circumstantial evidence of wrongdoing, but nothing that would stand up in a court of law -- my thought was that maybe the media house put pressure on the journalist to publish before the case could be built and made stronger (publish too soon). In the end it just come off to me like a mad journalist with an axe to grind decide to publish some dirt on Gary (was this the same one who ask Gary how his son got on the team?)...kinda like in a smaller scale political campaign in the US.

To be fair: consider that the journalist is attempting to stay OUT of court. The only court The Express is interested in is the court of public opinion.
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Think of the 2022 conversation regarding reparations as the item tabled for future discussion when initially raised for negotiation during talks in 1834. A lot of intere$t has accrued.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1499 on: July 01, 2021, 01:56:18 AM »
What makes TF a " Trini?  - he appears to like:
- bacchanal
- boboll
- rachifee
-  being a badjohn
- being Basa basa
- being bragadacious
-being boldface
- rum
- Trini women
- playing politics
- running TTFA
- living in TnT
- working the system
- Liming with people of influence
- could sh..t talk after a game
- is an authority on most things especially on how to run  football in TnT
- doing ah little ting to get ah food
why don’t you climb off the man’s back and let him be? you’ve publicly paraded the man as a crook because of a measly 20,000 a month, you banged on his integrity you made a mockery of his family and now that he’s gone you’re back for more? I don’t know mate but if I didn’t know any better I would think that you have it in for terry just because he’s a white man and a british citizen, and if I’m right then you suck.

I don’t know what they teach you people up in canada, but most of you on this forum seem to be some discontented mad men who just loves annoying others with your nonsensical comments. Please leave mr fenwick alone, he’s gone and out of the picture so set your sights on angus or some other local bum and leave fenwick be, my goodness man.
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