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who owns Central FC again? can you remind me

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who owns Central FC again? can you remind me

speaking about duplicity, how about your comments referring to individuals of my ilk??? care to answer my question, what you meant by that??

can you answer please...

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Is this becoming a PNM site?

Why are you not asking the same questions of Daryl Mahabir at North East?

A coach has every right to ask for a salary and a club has every right to work within it's budget.

No business, whether football. manufacturing or services can agree to contracts it cannot fulfill. Terry was contracted until 31st May and did a great job. Central F.C. would have liked to keep him on board. However, the club couldn't meet his terms.

So both parties have to move on.

And all this talk of players our of contract ......Central still have the best squad in T&T and will be adding to it.
You sir are a compounded jackass!!! for you to imply that this is becoming a PNM site means that you have drunk from the Koolaid....

Apparently, I am allowed to make comments. There are many incorrect and mischievous statements made here. If I can be accused of being deceitful, why can't I suggest some posters may have a political stance?

How come Kevin Harrison never involved in anything but involved in everything...  :devil:

Yuh see it?! lol


As Terry stated, he chose to bypass me and negotiate directly with the Board. Of course, I was advised of the state of those negotiations. Seems fairly straight forward to me.

so only now you have figured out that there are ardent pro PNM supporters towing the party line on here???

How long it take you to realize that, before or after they attacked you???

my fight for neutrality and pro TT football on sw.net is drowned out by many insecure and brainwashed individuals that cling together in solidarity not to support or strengthen our nation and football, but themselves and their political affiliations..

 

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who owns Central FC again? can you remind me

speaking about duplicity, how about your comments referring to individuals of my ilk??? care to answer my question, what you meant by that??

can you answer please...
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You don't think? Once again you are not thinking. I don't know which is more dangerous, you don't thinking or you thinkng. To complicate matters, you don't know what's going at your own club but you pretend to know that nobody is preparing in June for a tournament that starts sooner than you think. That doesn't surprise me. You are following a pattern of Trini clubs that don't know how to prepare for success. So I will say it again. That flag that you want to carry is heavier than you think.
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Is this becoming a PNM site?

Why are you not asking the same questions of Daryl Mahabir at North East?

A coach has every right to ask for a salary and a club has every right to work within it's budget.

No business, whether football. manufacturing or services can agree to contracts it cannot fulfill. Terry was contracted until 31st May and did a great job. Central F.C. would have liked to keep him on board. However, the club couldn't meet his terms.

So both parties have to move on.

And all this talk of players our of contract ......Central still have the best squad in T&T and will be adding to it.
You sir are a compounded jackass!!! for you to imply that this is becoming a PNM site means that you have drunk from the Koolaid....

Apparently, I am allowed to make comments. There are many incorrect and mischievous statements made here. If I can be accused of being deceitful, why can't I suggest some posters may have a political stance?

How come Kevin Harrison never involved in anything but involved in everything...  :devil:

Yuh see it?! lol


As Terry stated, he chose to bypass me and negotiate directly with the Board. Of course, I was advised of the state of those negotiations. Seems fairly straight forward to me.

so only now you have figured out that there are ardent pro PNM supporters towing the party line on here???

How long it take you to realize that, before or after they attacked you???

my fight for neutrality and pro TT football on sw.net is drowned out by many insecure and brainwashed individuals that cling together in solidarity not to support or strengthen our nation and football, but themselves and their political affiliations..

 

Contro, Breds,  our football was in a mess with Jack for over 20 yrs. It became a political football when he joined the UNC. Well, what do you expect from some on this forum? Rejoice??!!!  It was obvious they would excruciate the UNC. How could this party(with its platform of ending corruption) allow this man to join their party,  knowing full well of his pass in football corruption.

 Well, you or anyone on the other side, can say he is free to associate with which ever party he wants. And you know what, that is correct. So when members start blasting the UNC, you find they drinking PNM koolaide.  Contro, this man acted as PM, you hear PM, on a number of occasions. Would you put Jack in that position if you were the PM, knowing of his checkered pass. He was untouchable because he was a FIFA official. And he became double untouchable when he became a UNC MP.
 
And what making matters worse, Tim is the mayor of POS, and PNM treasurer. Is Tim Kee getting a free pass from the forum? Check the posts on Tim Kee. Most forumites want him gone. He gets pilloried by most forumites.

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who owns Central FC again? can you remind me

speaking about duplicity, how about your comments referring to individuals of my ilk??? care to answer my question, what you meant by that??

can you answer please...
keep proving yuhself

didn't realize you insane enough to talk to yourself... answer the question... you afraid???
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Is this becoming a PNM site?

Why are you not asking the same questions of Daryl Mahabir at North East?

A coach has every right to ask for a salary and a club has every right to work within it's budget.

No business, whether football. manufacturing or services can agree to contracts it cannot fulfill. Terry was contracted until 31st May and did a great job. Central F.C. would have liked to keep him on board. However, the club couldn't meet his terms.

So both parties have to move on.

And all this talk of players our of contract ......Central still have the best squad in T&T and will be adding to it.
You sir are a compounded jackass!!! for you to imply that this is becoming a PNM site means that you have drunk from the Koolaid....

Apparently, I am allowed to make comments. There are many incorrect and mischievous statements made here. If I can be accused of being deceitful, why can't I suggest some posters may have a political stance?

How come Kevin Harrison never involved in anything but involved in everything...  :devil:

Yuh see it?! lol


As Terry stated, he chose to bypass me and negotiate directly with the Board. Of course, I was advised of the state of those negotiations. Seems fairly straight forward to me.

so only now you have figured out that there are ardent pro PNM supporters towing the party line on here???

How long it take you to realize that, before or after they attacked you???

my fight for neutrality and pro TT football on sw.net is drowned out by many insecure and brainwashed individuals that cling together in solidarity not to support or strengthen our nation and football, but themselves and their political affiliations..

 

Contro, Breds,  our football was in a mess with Jack for over 20 yrs. It became a political football when he joined the UNC. Well, what do you expect from some on this forum? Rejoice??!!!  It was obvious they would excruciate the UNC. How could this party(with its platform of ending corruption) allow this man to join their party,  knowing full well of his pass in football corruption.

 Well, you or anyone on the other side, can say he is free to associate with which ever party he wants. And you know what, that is correct. So when members start blasting the UNC, you find they drinking PNM koolaide.  Contro, this man acted as PM, you hear PM, on a number of occasions. Would you put Jack in that position if you were the PM, knowing of his checkered pass. He was untouchable because he was a FIFA official. And he became double untouchable when he became a UNC MP.
 
And what making matters worse, Tim is the mayor of POS, and PNM treasurer. Is Tim Kee getting a free pass from the forum? Check the posts on Tim Kee. Most forumites want him gone. He gets pilloried by most forumites.

brother, what was JW before he became UNC ??? Only when he became a UNC supporter did the attacks become even more ferocious than before and continued... I don't agree with what UNC did and they were hypocritical to do so but PNM was doing the same donkey years now , so how are they any different???

There are certain members on this site who are not asking for the removal of tim kee, check the posts and see if they are pushing hard, in fact, alot of them who support PNM are mute or have very little criticism but when they wake up in the morning and sign in on the board, they coming at sancho with full force...

once again brother, i am pro TT and pro progress for TT football.. i don't give a damn about PNM or UNC... i leave that for the small minded posters who actually feel politics in TT is real, when in fact it's theatrics to manipulate the ignorant and uneducated masses who choose to believe in their false prophets, spewing their false messages..
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who owns Central FC again? can you remind me

I think you know this as this issue was raised back in February. Brent Sancho is the club owner, but once he took office he stepped back from day to day involvement. Do we talk about Central? Of course. Many M.P.s have businesses that they step back from when in office.

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You don't think? Once again you are not thinking. I don't know which is more dangerous, you don't thinking or you thinkng. To complicate matters, you don't know what's going at your own club but you pretend to know that nobody is preparing in June for a tournament that starts sooner than you think. That doesn't surprise me. You are following a pattern of Trini clubs that don't know how to prepare for success. So I will say it again. That flag that you want to carry is heavier than you think.

KD, I am scared shitless of the Champions League. I've never organised a game with a potential attendance of 20,000. Nobody currently active in T&T football has organised a game with a global TV audience of such magnitude, not even TTFA. But again. you're statements are feeding of articles in the press that aren't accurate. Carry on believing them if you want, but you know that journalists regularly get things wrong. I had a long chat with Lasana when he called for my comments. He only put a fraction into his article. Why? Because there is no news if a club is in good shape. We can field a team of contracted players right now who would probably beat any Pro League team. When the new coach is appointed he will decide on who stays and who comes in. I won't sign players that a coach may not select. Makes no sense. Look how Drogba and deSilva sat on the bench for 6 months from January 14. Yet this season they played virtually every game.

As for staff, we have a great bunch of coaches who will begin pre season. Also, all contracted players are having their visa status confirmed now. Once the new coach arrives, designated positions such as Asst Coach, Reserve Coach etc will be assigned.

I get very defensive at the moment because these same questions are not being asked about other clubs. Has anybody asked Terry what his terms were that Central refused to meet? Coz I'm damn certain you would understand why we didn't resign him. Maybe it's because Central are the top club, however, me, being paranoid, feel that certain people here just want to attack me or Sancho for political reasons. Maybe I am being paranoid.

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who owns Central FC again? can you remind me

I think you know this as this issue was raised back in February. Brent Sancho is the club owner, but once he took office he stepped back from day to day involvement. Do we talk about Central? Of course. Many M.P.s have businesses that they step back from when in office.

Sorry but that's a rubbish excuse. He should not be put in a position to compromise himself.
It's like Buxo Potts "advising" the BBC but managing/training fighters.
Like when Warner "advised" the TTFF but his son "owned" Joe Public.

We have to wait and see if Sancho makes decision re. CFC and hope it's done in an arbitrary manner. He never should have been put in this position. But this TT land of the assholes. Brent seems to be doing a decent job as MOS but you DON'T  put ppl in a position where they can be compromised. But we in TT take it so.

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who owns Central FC again? can you remind me

speaking about duplicity, how about your comments referring to individuals of my ilk??? care to answer my question, what you meant by that??

can you answer please...
keep proving yuhself

didn't realize you insane enough to talk to yourself... answer the question... you afraid???
it bothering you eh? good let it bother you.....

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who owns Central FC again? can you remind me

speaking about duplicity, how about your comments referring to individuals of my ilk??? care to answer my question, what you meant by that??

can you answer please...
keep proving yuhself

didn't realize you insane enough to talk to yourself... answer the question... you afraid???
it bothering you eh? good let it bother you.....

nothing bothering me fellah, just waiting for you to expose yourself for who you really are and what you really think... ;)

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Is this becoming a PNM site?

Why are you not asking the same questions of Daryl Mahabir at North East?

A coach has every right to ask for a salary and a club has every right to work within it's budget.

No business, whether football. manufacturing or services can agree to contracts it cannot fulfill. Terry was contracted until 31st May and did a great job. Central F.C. would have liked to keep him on board. However, the club couldn't meet his terms.

So both parties have to move on.

And all this talk of players our of contract ......Central still have the best squad in T&T and will be adding to it.
You sir are a compounded jackass!!! for you to imply that this is becoming a PNM site means that you have drunk from the Koolaid....

Apparently, I am allowed to make comments. There are many incorrect and mischievous statements made here. If I can be accused of being deceitful, why can't I suggest some posters may have a political stance?

How come Kevin Harrison never involved in anything but involved in everything...  :devil:

Yuh see it?! lol


As Terry stated, he chose to bypass me and negotiate directly with the Board. Of course, I was advised of the state of those negotiations. Seems fairly straight forward to me.

so only now you have figured out that there are ardent pro PNM supporters towing the party line on here???

How long it take you to realize that, before or after they attacked you???

my fight for neutrality and pro TT football on sw.net is drowned out by many insecure and brainwashed individuals that cling together in solidarity not to support or strengthen our nation and football, but themselves and their political affiliations..

 
What a preposterous judgement and absurb conclusion to come to- what gains could anyone get here by touting a particular party line?
Look when yuh see nonsense be it from Tom Dick or Kathy  you call it as you see fit. I am more appalled by people who seem to be avoiding the non action on the government of the major issues which remains unsolved- no one seems to respond to these.
Doh go pulling the party card - yuh begging to sound like a certain party affiliate whoe familiar refrain is toblamePNM for all their woes and short comings.

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Is there really a price tag in Fenwick's mind that merits his non-participation in the CCL? Ah mean yuh went to Belgium ostensibly to move to an elevated market, what's worth turning your back on the elevated stage of the CCL, and the opportunities it could yield?

What is this leaving Central about? Dollars? If so, is the disparity in the $ wanted and the $ on offer worth not taking a squad you know intimately onto a stage that you should relish?

Or, could Fenwick be afraid of the CCL challenge and its implications? He doesn't strike me as that person, but I'm not an authority on stagefright.

Frankly, very few things about T&T football disappoint or surprise me, but I find Fenwick's departure from the club disappointing.

Similar questions could be asked of the club. If you've invested in an outcome, has anything you've done worked to impede that outcome?
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Is there really a price tag in Fenwick's mind that merits his non-participation in the CCL? Ah mean yuh went to Belgium ostensibly to move to an elevated market, what's worth turning your back on the elevated stage of the CCL, and the opportunities it could yield?

What is this leaving Central about? Dollars? If so, is the disparity in the $ wanted and the $ on offer worth not taking a squad you know intimately onto a stage that you should relish?

Or, could Fenwick be afraid of the CCL challenge and its implications? He doesn't strike me as that person, but I'm not an authority on stagefright.

Frankly, very few things about T&T football disappoint or surprise me, but I find Fenwick's departure from the club disappointing.

Similar questions could be asked of the club. If you've invested in an outcome, has anything you've done worked to impede that outcome?

Despite the criticism, I really believe that bringing in Terry for the CFU, Pro Bowl and the final league games was a good decision. Terry's tactical decisions were superb. Even one of his arch critics, Jamaal Shabazz, told me he was impressed by Terry's tactics in Guyana. So, yes, I think Terry would do well in CCL. However, everyone has the right to value themselves as they see fit. His request was too rich for Central, but maybe he has a plan B? Whatever, I hope he stays in T&T football because I think the game will be better with his involvement, although I wouldn't enjoy playing against him!!

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Fenwick like to much blasted money if you ask me and he know he have Central by they balls because they need him. I hope they dont break, de timing of this is bad, it shows no dovotation to a club that basically rescue him after Jabloteh went bankrupt with de CLICO incident.

He went Belgium and it did not work out and came back and they still accepted him back even though he pull ah agent stunt on Plaza and them agent so he and Central could profit.

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Fenwick like to much blasted money if you ask me and he know he have Central by they balls because they need him. I hope they dont break, de timing of this is bad, it shows no dovotation to a club that basically rescue him after Jabloteh went bankrupt with de CLICO incident.

He went Belgium and it did not work out and came back and they still accepted him back even though he pull ah agent stunt on Plaza and them agent so he and Central could profit.

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so he and Central could profit.  Not sure about Terry, but Central made no money out of the players going to Belgium. In fact it cost us as we paid for Winchester & Plaza's flights home when they were stranded.



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Fenwick looks like he is bipolar and just always unreliable and causing unexpected drama. Might be a good coach but something is not quite right with his head. There should always be a plan B dealing with people like him. He must be congratulated for getting Central where they reached but time to move on, preferably with tried and tested Vranes who put in the foundation for this season's success.
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FS, as much as I understand your logic in not hiring Fenwick, I must say it is a bit unsettling given all the positive things your club has represented in it short period of existence. I know coaches come, coaches go. But good coaches are a rare commodity in TT. Unless you want to give a local a chance for the next big stage, It appears that you maybe looking to bring someone from outside. Right or wrong? The time period is very short for the next game.

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FS, as much as I understand your logic in not hiring Fenwick, I must say it is a bit unsettling given all the positive things your club has represented in it short period of existence. I know coaches come, coaches go. But good coaches are a rare commodity in TT. Unless you want to give a local a chance for the next big stage, It appears that you maybe looking to bring someone from outside. Right or wrong? The time period is very short for the next game.

The only logic involved was that we couldn't meet his terms. It wasn't about wanting to, we simply couldn't afford him!

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Re: Central and Fenwick part ways; Vranes and Eve among possibile new coaches
« Reply #831 on: September 02, 2015, 09:09:59 AM »
Allyuh eh notice since Terry fallout with Sancho we hearing all kinda news now.

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All ah them was involve in de drama, now is wood pelting.

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Re: Central and Fenwick part ways; Vranes and Eve among possibile new coaches
« Reply #832 on: September 02, 2015, 09:26:27 AM »
Allyuh eh notice since Terry fallout with Sancho we hearing all kinda news now.

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All ah them was involve in de drama, now is wood pelting.

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Cops probe Fenwick.
« Reply #833 on: September 03, 2015, 01:58:24 AM »
Cops probe Fenwick.
By Rhondor Dowlat (Guardian).


English football coach Terry Fenwick has been allegedly linked to a $450,000 attempted fraud which is under investigation by TT Police Service (TTPS).

The alleged fraud revolves around an application to the Ministry of Sport to receive funding to enter his club, Ma Pau FC, into the TT Pro League for the 2015/2016 season.

It is alleged there was an attempt to misinform the ministry’s permanent secretary, Gillian Macintyre, by stating that Ma Pau had invested $8.5 million in refurbishing the Morvant recreation ground.

The file also included alleged references to “before and after” photographs purporting to be of the grounds but which were photos of a facility outside of T&T.

The alleged fraud only came to light after the $450,000 cheque had been issued payable to Ma Pau.

A source inside the Ministry of Sport, who wished to remain anonymous said: ” Fenwick and his partner were in and out of the ministry for a few weeks looking for money for his football club and his coaching school, Football Factory. Everything seemed normal until it was discovered that Ma Pau’s application to join the Pro League had been rejected.”

As per the terms of the funding, Macintyre immediately moved to cancel the cheque.

However, upon review of the file, various inaccuracies were discovered, resulting in a decision to call in the police to investigate further.

“The last thing we want in the ministry is another scandal,” said the source. “Unknown to many of us, the minister had put in place a system to check files that were approved for funding to ensure proper procedures were followed.”

The source said one such procedure would usually be a site visit.

“We are supposed to go and check on the people applying to ensure everything is exactly as claimed. Usually an application takes several weeks to be approved. However, in the case of Ma Pau, it was processed in a week.

“I have never seen a file like that approved so fast. It appears there wasn’t time to conduct a site visit which would have exposed the discrepancies.”

When contacted on the matter Dexter Skeene, the chief executive officer of the T&T Pro League confirmed that an application was made by Fenwick and that the Board is currently looking into the application.

“The application wasn’t approved yet but we try to help all new clubs coming in,” Skeene said.

When asked if he knew about the investigations of alleged fraud in which Fenwick is allegedly involved, Skeene replied: “No. I am not aware of all this.”

The source added that the speed of the application even beat Sports Minister Brent Sancho’s additional oversights.

“The minister was not even aware of the application until after the PS (permanent secretary) cancelled the cheque. Apparently he was furious that nobody identified the discrepancies.”

While the ministry’s staff were aware there was a problem, they were surprised to be called to be interviewed by the police.

“They had lots of people questioned, including the Sport and Physical Education Department and people from accounts. The interviews lasted several hours,” the source added.

Sancho and Fenwick were World Cup defenders for their respective countries, and Fenwick coached Sancho at San Juan Jabloteh.

The roles were later reversed when Sancho was managing director of Central FC and employed Fenwick as head coach. However, it has not been explained why Fenwick did not approach Sancho for funding from his ministry.

When contacted by the TT Guardian, Sancho confirmed there was an investigation into a possible fraud connected to a funding request from the former coach (Fenwick) of Central FC the reigning T&T Pro League champions.

“Yes, there is an investigation in the hands of the police but I cannot discuss details at this time,” he added.

When asked if Fenwick was involved, the minister replied: “Yes, it was an application by Terry. However, until the investigation is completed there should be no assumption of guilt against anybody involved in the matter.

“We have seen too many instances of internet bloggers making false accusations without any proof of wrongdoing and I am not about to join their gutter politics brigade”

When contacted, Sancho’s adviser, Kevin Harrison, also confirmed the investigation but refused to comment on its progress.

“It’s the most serious instance that’s happened since the minister was appointed in February. The most worrying factor is that he had no idea that this application existed until Ma Pau’s application to the Pro League had been rejected. It appears that the application was processed in a manner to avoid it coming to the minister’s attention,” the source said.

The source added that there may now be further investigations into Fenwick’s receipt of funding for his Football Factory coaching school.

“The minister is now having all approved applications for funding reviewed to ensure his policies were followed. I am sure the Football Factory will be one of the first to be reviewed.”

When contacted yesterday for comment, Fenwick admitted he did apply to the TT Pro League but disclosed his application was being hampered, allegedly by officials within the ministry.

“It is a long story. One that I am willing to tell because I have all the necessary documentation in order,” Fenwick said.

When asked if he was misled or tricked in one way or the other, Fenwick replied: “No.”

Fenwick, who is married to lawyer Reyna Kowlessar, moved to Belgium last summer to take control of a club but returned when a number of alleged financial irregularities forced the club to part company with several of Fenwick’s business partners.

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Re: Cops probe Fenwick.
« Reply #834 on: September 03, 2015, 03:59:14 AM »
So wait a minute, this looks like a Fenwick vs Sancho battle going on here.

Selling out each other hidden secrets.

Let me grab my popcorn.

And Fenwick, no need to worry, in T&T no one goes to jail for stealing money, once its from the government.

Good intervew Sancho, the Unnamed source.

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Imagine, someone can fool Gillian Macintyre (the PS) $450,000 that easliy.

Maybe, she should be investigated also.

Ma Pau have money, why would Terry need to steal $450,000?

They claimed that they had invested $8.5 million in refurbishing the Morvant recreation ground but is seeking 450,000 back from the government?

And were are the photos of the new ground?

Football Factory should be another good investigation.

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Re: Cops probe Fenwick.
« Reply #835 on: September 03, 2015, 04:04:03 AM »
Mau Pau?? Them again??

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Re: Cops probe Fenwick.
« Reply #836 on: September 03, 2015, 07:56:36 AM »
Bastards!

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Re: Cops probe Fenwick.
« Reply #837 on: September 03, 2015, 08:56:59 AM »
This is pretty transparent... and desperate.  Sancho and Fenwick quietly beefing for months now, and most likely Fenwick was Lasana's source for the latest expose regarding the "personal payments" in connection with the player transfers.  Now Sancho and them trying hard to hit back, I wouldn't be surprised if Harrison was the 'source' inside the Ministry behind this story.  True or not it smacks of desperation.

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Re: Cops probe Fenwick.
« Reply #838 on: September 03, 2015, 09:01:22 AM »
When is the last time an investigation by the T&T Police Fraud Squad actually lead to a prosecution? I wouldn't worry about it.

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Re: Cops probe Fenwick.
« Reply #839 on: September 03, 2015, 09:10:24 AM »
This is pretty transparent... and desperate.  Sancho and Fenwick quietly beefing for months now, and most likely Fenwick was Lasana's source for the latest expose regarding the "personal payments" in connection with the player transfers.  Now Sancho and them trying hard to hit back, I wouldn't be surprised if Harrison was the 'source' inside the Ministry behind this story.  True or not it smacks of desperation.

Excellent points. But the wrong way around. The investigation has been going on for weeks. The desperation is in the smear tactics over the last week. I was not the source. Dozens of people know of the investigation.