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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1020 on: January 07, 2020, 01:03:46 AM »
The man should be a preacher not  a politician.

Now you Trinis have brought back British  I wish you get the success you Trinis hope for..

I would.. in all sincerity ..like to see Trinidad and Tobago do well...qualify for the world cup and so forth...

Happy New Year, Breds. He has 20 years experience in TT. He is not the "typical" English coach. To say that he is not influenced by the Trini-Caribbean culture is a bit disingenuous. But again, let's see what new he will bring to the  table. I wish him well. Verity, Porterfield and Lang were very good English coaches. So this time around it may well worth the while.                   
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1021 on: January 07, 2020, 06:09:19 AM »
Truely this is like a breath of fresh air...and worth its wait
All the best coach...hope all the pieces of the puzzle come together...and quickly...in corporation...to uplift our game that has been destroyed...bless up

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1022 on: January 07, 2020, 09:27:19 AM »
Man that press conference said all the right things. I'm starting to be optimistic!

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Fenwick: ‘We need to bring some new blood in’
« Reply #1023 on: January 07, 2020, 11:11:21 AM »
Fenwick: ‘We need to bring some new blood in’
By Jonathan Ramnanansingh (T&T Newsday)


NEWLY-APPOINTED national senior men’s football coach, Terry Fenwick, believes TT can change its shabby run of form by placing great emphasis on well-structured youth development programmes and sourcing new talents.

Fenwick made this revelation during his first press conference as head coach, at the National Cycling Centre, Couva, on Monday. According to the veteran sport administrator, the indoctrination of athlete professionalism, at a tender age, plays a key role in returning TT to the top ranks of regional football.

However, the former English Football League player admitted success will not come overnight and TT has a lot of ground work to do.

“I’m looking at international players that have got TT parentage and (are) playing at decent levels around the world. A number of players have (been) identified. I think we need to bring some new blood in just to show that we have got that quality. We can’t cure everything as quickly as we would like but if we work together, everybody, it will all come together,” he said.

Fenwick drew reference to regional teams such as Panama, Costa Rica and Honduras, who, after four and five years of development, have now gotten the general mass of their national representatives playing overseas at a higher competitive level.

He strongly believes the implementation of a professional structure and organisation of local players in their early teens will have a significant long-term impact for the overall development of young professionals in TT senior football.

“In TT, we are miles away from that (breeding young professionals). Kids are playing in the college league until they’re 20. Twenty is too late to move on and find a career in football. We’ve got to address our local game absolutely, but we’ve got to get our kids to that standard of football. They must be professionals by age 15,” added the ex-England national.

The 60-year-old coach also indicated the TT Pro League is only a fair source of unearthing local talent. With the domestic competition running just three to four months for the year, Fenwick hinted this would also be a factor contributing to unfit senior players. According to him, TT have lost its competitive dignity within the region especially since our recent demotion to the second division of Concacaf.

Fenwick,however, is willing to face his challenges head on and and get down to work, rebuilding the team from scratch and from the youth level. He remains certain TT’s progression must be a team effort intent on achieving the same goal.

“At the end of the day this is for TT,” he continued. “I want myself and the nation to be successful. I want the kids playing in the big leagues around the world but that only happens if we put the right development plans down, the right structures in place, get the right people, to run these developments, so we can galvanise the youngsters we have got. I’ve been working in developmental football for 20 years with Jabloteh, Central FC and Football Factory. I still need all the help I can get.”

The former Tottenham Hotspurs defender reiterated the importance of playing TT’s own brand of football and moving away from copying the styles of other nations. He believes TT need to play the “style that suits us”.

Having been overlooked on multiple occasions for the national coaching job, Fenwick was not bothered. This allowed him the ability to observe TT’s decline from an external perspective and draw his own conclusions as a coach.

“I think the past administration, they were playing the style of football that clearly didn’t work and it sticks out like a sore thumb with the results we’ve seen. I’ve got to change that. We’ve got a possible Gold Cup and World Cup competitions coming up. At the moment, they’re miles off of that. So I’ve got to address it quickly, look at the players that I’ve got, bring in who I have from outside so I can merge them together and produce a side to get us back to winning ways,” he stated.
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1024 on: January 08, 2020, 03:53:15 PM »
Let me remind folks that Gally said most of What Fenwick is saying. We need our own style.
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1025 on: January 08, 2020, 07:07:48 PM »
All the best Fenwick, I'm starting to feel optimistic as well :beermug:
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1026 on: January 10, 2020, 03:39:20 PM »
WATCH: One on One with Trinidad and Tobago Head Coach Terry Fenwick

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1027 on: January 10, 2020, 07:06:17 PM »
Trinidad and Tobago are now doing what they should have done at least 10 years ago,you have a man who has played at the highest level for his country and that man has achieved so much in Trinidad,what were you all waiting for,Latapy a very good fballer but knows very little about coaching so to did DL.Prior to those 2 you also had some 4th raters doing the job,what a sick administration they should be sent to serve time in Carera for bringing our game into disrepute.Just listen to T.F and you know he knows all that there is to know from top to bottom.It took so much crap to happen to our football before yall give the man the job.Let's hope for a change although it could be a slow process.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1028 on: January 11, 2020, 09:57:20 AM »
Fenwick might be forced to miss a lot of meetings ;D

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« Reply #1029 on: January 11, 2020, 11:01:16 AM »
Fenwick might be forced to miss a lot of meetings ;D

 ;D

And hoarding jet skis.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1030 on: January 12, 2020, 01:57:10 PM »
WATCH: Men's Senior Team head coach Terry Fenwick addressed the media for the first time today at a Press Conference held at the National Cycling Velodrome Press Room in Couva

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/CmDuxUqDhmg" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/CmDuxUqDhmg</a>
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1031 on: January 12, 2020, 02:12:52 PM »
ffisback, why so?

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1032 on: January 12, 2020, 03:15:44 PM »
I want to know how he think we NOW in trouble??
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« Reply #1033 on: January 12, 2020, 03:43:23 PM »
I want to know how he think we NOW in trouble??
no more 70s "latin" ball
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« Reply #1034 on: January 12, 2020, 04:18:32 PM »
WATCH: Men's Senior Team head coach Terry Fenwick addressed the media for the first time today at a Press Conference held at the National Cycling Velodrome Press Room in Couva

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/CmDuxUqDhmg" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/CmDuxUqDhmg</a>
TT in some big trouble now!!

So we weren’t in trouble with DL and the dictator ?  :rotfl: :rotfl:

You’re a friggin fool

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« Reply #1035 on: January 12, 2020, 04:33:39 PM »
ffisback, why so?
According to what he is saying he is going to do what Lincoln Phillip and Randy Waldrum was doing to TT woman football that's not good for the development of football in TT.

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« Reply #1036 on: January 12, 2020, 04:37:38 PM »
ffisback, why so?
According to what he is saying he is going to do what Lincoln Phillip and Randy Waldrum was doing to TT woman football that's not good for the development of football in TT.

You’re making no sense....

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« Reply #1037 on: January 12, 2020, 08:06:15 PM »
I disagree with building a team with players who have TT passports .

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« Reply #1038 on: January 12, 2020, 09:18:44 PM »
I disagree with building a team with players who have TT passports .

What sort of passports should they get?  :devil:


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« Reply #1039 on: January 12, 2020, 09:27:47 PM »
I disagree with building a team with players who have TT passports .

What sort of passports should they get?  :devil:





Brazilian passports I feel. Or at least some kinda Latin lol
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« Reply #1040 on: January 12, 2020, 10:03:58 PM »
I disagree with building a team with players who have TT passports .

What sort of passports should they get?  :devil:





Brazilian passports I feel. Or at least some kinda Latin lol

I don't agree fully with ffisback, but I too feel that we should not look chiefly to the diaspora for quality but try to shape quality here too in equally aggressive manner, if not more so, responded to Tallman on a facebook post re d U15s some months ago during dat messy tourny DJW and crew organize

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The local pool being inadequate is cop out in my opinion, why can't we do proper speed drills, introduce a nutritionist and proper strength and endurance sessions with these boys, they have fair foundation, it jus handicapped by these same development issues that have hampered us for decades, no ah not rejecting d diaspora, ah just saying - we play football at d same tempo "little or none" - fix dat. We place no emphasis on fitness endurance and nutrition - fix dat. D coaches should be mulling over dem game footage right now identifying dem ting...but guess what...ah sure it not going to happen....start doing pre game, in game and post game oppo analysis, to fix issues and understand present and future opponents, we football exist in a 70s-80s time warp with some ah dem coach we using, so guess what...ah sure it not going to happen. again ah not saying reject d diaspora, but this is 2019 it have nuff freely available info on preparing youth for modern football, why we not recognizing dat we are behind....WAY BEHIND.....in football development processes.....WHY!!!!

I too don't want us to be only seeking quality from outside at d expense of finding potential here, they exist, just isn't getting proper development ATM.

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« Reply #1041 on: January 13, 2020, 12:31:37 AM »
How about while we fixing and developing locally now for the future, we recognize and utilize those that already has that foundation and developmental structure now, irregardless of wherever in the world they might be. Won't the tomorrow, quarterly, yearly and future be covered ?
Things like that do not get fixed overnight, and we have events coming up shortly. Plenty work, lot's of analsis and decision making, yet it seems the admin and support(Socawarriors.net included) up for it. Lots of volunteers seem ready to assist, won't strain the finances more than unusual. The football won't be  resuscitated for a few years anyway.
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« Reply #1042 on: January 13, 2020, 03:24:44 AM »
I disagree with building a team with players who have TT passports .

What sort of passports should they get?  :devil:





Brazilian passports I feel. Or at least some kinda Latin lol

I don't agree fully with ffisback, but I too feel that we should not look chiefly to the diaspora for quality but try to shape quality here too in equally aggressive manner, if not more so, responded to Tallman on a facebook post re d U15s some months ago during dat messy tourny DJW and crew organize

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The local pool being inadequate is cop out in my opinion, why can't we do proper speed drills, introduce a nutritionist and proper strength and endurance sessions with these boys, they have fair foundation, it jus handicapped by these same development issues that have hampered us for decades, no ah not rejecting d diaspora, ah just saying - we play football at d same tempo "little or none" - fix dat. We place no emphasis on fitness endurance and nutrition - fix dat. D coaches should be mulling over dem game footage right now identifying dem ting...but guess what...ah sure it not going to happen....start doing pre game, in game and post game oppo analysis, to fix issues and understand present and future opponents, we football exist in a 70s-80s time warp with some ah dem coach we using, so guess what...ah sure it not going to happen. again ah not saying reject d diaspora, but this is 2019 it have nuff freely available info on preparing youth for modern football, why we not recognizing dat we are behind....WAY BEHIND.....in football development processes.....WHY!!!!

I too don't want us to be only seeking quality from outside at d expense of finding potential here, they exist, just isn't getting proper development ATM.



For now we should look mainly to the diaspora bc they are talented and playing at a higher level

Unless it’s cummings and a few select others, I would tap that outside talent while having a small local based squad in training and developing

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1043 on: January 13, 2020, 03:34:38 AM »
Looking outside can be good - bring players in to mix with the locals and share the wealth of their professional experience, build good networks, and otherwise up the soft skills of the team.

As long as looking abroad doesn't mean neglecting domestic talent, it's good.

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« Reply #1044 on: January 13, 2020, 04:35:20 AM »
I disagree with building a team with players who have TT passports .

What sort of passports should they get?  :devil:





Brazilian passports I feel. Or at least some kinda Latin lol

I don't agree fully with ffisback, but I too feel that we should not look chiefly to the diaspora for quality but try to shape quality here too in equally aggressive manner, if not more so, responded to Tallman on a facebook post re d U15s some months ago during dat messy tourny DJW and crew organize

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The local pool being inadequate is cop out in my opinion, why can't we do proper speed drills, introduce a nutritionist and proper strength and endurance sessions with these boys, they have fair foundation, it jus handicapped by these same development issues that have hampered us for decades, no ah not rejecting d diaspora, ah just saying - we play football at d same tempo "little or none" - fix dat. We place no emphasis on fitness endurance and nutrition - fix dat. D coaches should be mulling over dem game footage right now identifying dem ting...but guess what...ah sure it not going to happen....start doing pre game, in game and post game oppo analysis, to fix issues and understand present and future opponents, we football exist in a 70s-80s time warp with some ah dem coach we using, so guess what...ah sure it not going to happen. again ah not saying reject d diaspora, but this is 2019 it have nuff freely available info on preparing youth for modern football, why we not recognizing dat we are behind....WAY BEHIND.....in football development processes.....WHY!!!!

I too don't want us to be only seeking quality from outside at d expense of finding potential here, they exist, just isn't getting proper development ATM.



For now we should look mainly to the diaspora bc they are talented and playing at a higher level

Unless it’s cummings and a few select others, I would tap that outside talent while having a small local based squad in training and developing
I am not advocating against the diaspora just want us to pay equal attention to getting the levels of locals up especially our leagues, Cummings in his 30s, I thinking beyond him because I DO advocate strongly for reducing the average age of the squad, all I want is active focus on improving local levels even while we utilize the diaspora. Belgium and Iceland have excellent development programs and a unified effort to get the best pool possible, locals are never going to compete if local football levels are left as they are. This is trinidad, we tend often to ignore d big picture in favor of d expedient.
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« Reply #1045 on: January 13, 2020, 05:00:06 AM »
As long as looking abroad doesn't mean neglecting domestic talent, it's good.
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« Reply #1046 on: January 13, 2020, 06:07:33 AM »
What prompted the presumption that the mention of an infusion of players born abroad, to citizens of Trinidad and Tobago, bears a correlation to neglect of the domestic agenda?
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« Reply #1047 on: January 13, 2020, 06:12:00 AM »
As long as looking abroad doesn't mean neglecting domestic talent, it's good.
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In the short term, to supplement the paucity at certain positions, I have no reason to disagree in searching for overseas talent. This nothing new to us. It has been done before. And it will continue in the future. There is one caveat/problem I have. It is when one of the overseas talent sits on the fence, waiting for his birth country for a call up, while the parents country is waiting on an answer. But that is part of the dynamics we have to live with.

The other side is domestic. The TTFA and other entities that LOVE TT and football. We, they need to create the programs to develop men and women teams. From U 12/14 to seniors. This pro-league need drastic improvement. Fenwick will have a hard time building a credible national team, if the pro-league cannot produce good to great players. Right now they sub-standard for international football. I am in no way trying to put down the players. After watching the last GC, we know that our current players are below international standard.

The elephant in the room in the other half of the population. There has to be some kind of effort to engage the East Indian population to participate more in competitive football, not just recreational. That goes for all other sports, except cricket. Everybody like to compare us with the other elephant, JA. They say TT are underachievers in sports and other stuff. JA has a ready and eager talent pool bar non. Close too 3 million.  TT has a talent pool off 1.3 million. And half the population are not engaged enough to try other sports. Hockey, rugby, basketball, netball, TF have very few East Indians, if any, participating. Swimming, tennis, table-tennis buck the trend a little. I know we always have Douglah players playing all sports. But that is not good enough. Create the atmosphere for them to participate in all the TTFA programs. There maybe   at least one diamond of East Indian descent on these 2 rocks in the South Caribbean who could turn out to be a Salah, Aguero, Mahrez or  I maybe stretching it far, (CR7).

The last prominent player of EI descent, as far as I concern was Steve Khan from Sando or Princess Town. Not sure. He played for Milan in the SFA. And that was in the 70s.
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« Reply #1048 on: January 13, 2020, 06:50:09 AM »
What prompted the presumption that the mention of an infusion of players born abroad, to citizens of Trinidad and Tobago, bears a correlation to neglect of the domestic agenda?

because it happens, it's not deliberate, it's purely based on needs, but it happens, simple example would be when Hart was coach and had to endure the constant grumbling about pro leaguers being ignored and when they were foisted on him by hook and crook, the inadequacies of local footballers were laid bare to frustrating proportions, my concern is that if we find immediate success with the diaspora that work needed on the ground here isn't ignored both by the admin but moreso by local stakeholders.......The admin however have to set the tone for what is to be expected of players seeking national duty and enforce it with the clubs, schools(SSFL and private academies) dat pedestrian brand dat seems to be the order of the day here may leave a lot of hopefuls by the wayside in the interim given what is being articulated and will need addressing.

I want all the playing Talent available to be utilized, I just recognize, players trained here are almost automatically at a disadvantage due to the dispensation as it relate to local football dev and dat efforts should be made to bridge the gaps in conjunction to rebuilding the teams\pragram....dais all I sayin
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1049 on: January 13, 2020, 07:22:57 AM »
Lefty is it the senior men's national team coach's job to develop players in T&T or to select the best players?

Let Fenwick do his job and let the technical director/committee do theirs
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