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« Reply #1320 on: February 14, 2021, 12:51:29 AM »
I  think Fenwick is on point here. Concacaf should be assisting  the CaC teams in setting the bubble protocol. FiFa is f**king up here. They should not be playing home and away football qualifying in this covid period. All qualifying should be done on the group playing in a country that can provide a safe bubble. They did it for cricket(CPL), basketball(NBA), soccer(MLS in Orlando). This is extraordinary time. Aussie has to suspend fans attending the Aussie Open tennis. Get f**king real, FIFA!!!!

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« Reply #1321 on: February 14, 2021, 01:36:43 AM »
Upset Fenwick wants football in a 'bubble'
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian).


'Unfair' if how national coach Terry Fenwick feels his team is being treated by government officials ahead of the country's opening World Cup qualifying against Guyana on March 25 at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Mucurapo.

The Soca Warriors face the possibility of the match not coming off because of precaution being taken by government officials toward the spread of the deadly coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

Both the government, through the Ministry of Health and its Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram, and the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee, which is being led by businessman Robert Hadad, have been locked in talks on whether the Guyanese team will be allowed to enter local shores for the match.

The NC is proposing a football bubble which is similar to what was done with the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) here in Trinidad and Tobago from August 18- September 10 at the Brian Lara Stadium in Tarouba, but it is unsure of what's the government's position, as the national team has had to wait not knowing what will happen.

On Friday, a frustrated Fenwick told Guardian Media Sports that: "We've got to be realistic, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We've got the CPL which is a money-generating operation, nothing was said about it, they got on with it, players were happy. Why can't the national football team do the same? I'm not asking for anything bigger or better, no more expense, why can't we do the same thing?"

On July 8, 2020, Sports Minister Shamfa Cudjoe told the media at a news conference at the Office of the Prime Minister in Scarborough, Tobago that a contingent of over 251 people, including the players, staff and other officials attached to the six CPL teams—the Barbados Tridents, Guyana Amazon Warriors, Jamaica Tallawahs, St Kitts & Nevis Patriots, St Lucia Zouks and the Trinbago Knight Riders—will come into T&T for the series and will be quarantined at the Hilton Trinidad in Port-of-Spain and must adhere to strict COVID protocols

She continued: “They would be doing their quarantine period there and they would be tested before leaving home (countries) to ensure they are negative, tested when they get here to Trinidad and Tobago and going to quarantine, tested on their seventh day and tested again on their fourteenth day. This is the first time we are hosting this type of sporting activity under COVID regulations and this COVID situation."

She also said that the Government had reached an agreement with the CPL where they will host the tournament to the tune of US$1 million, broken down into US$500 in cash and US$500 in kind.

The country's borders have been closed since the deadly outbreak of the coronavirus in March last year, and since then the government has used a cautious approach in returning nationals who were caught abroad.

Yesterday Dr Parasram did not respond to a Whatsapp message that asked for an update on the matter, neither did he say whether a tri-nation bubble tournament among the national teams of T&T, St Vincent and the Grenadines and St Lucia will go on as planned later this month (February), due to the mandatory 14-day quarantine period for people entering the country.

According to Fenwick: "We're in the dark ourselves and we are waiting on normalisation committee chairman Robert Hadad to find out what we can actually do. We've had CPL played in a bubble, placed in big hotels, travel to the Brian Lara Stadium, and because it was an income-generating competition, they've allowed it to happen, but they are now frustrating our national team in a World Cup qualifying game that should be at the Hasely Crawford Stadium. As well as the CPL, there are multiple businessmen/expatriates to arrive here in T&T and spend one day in quarantine. They spend one week wherever they're coming from, but when they arrive in T&T they do one day. So I am frustrated because I don't want to give anything away, that is a plus."

The English-born coach, whose team was hammered 7-0 by the United States in an international friendly encounter on January 31 in Orlando Florida, USA, lamented the horrible past four years that local football has had to endure, saying it had to face countless court matters with the world-governing body for the sport- FIFA, as well as other private citizens, to the administrations' inability to get structured football going.

He said he intends to reach to the powers that be to help them: "We're reaching out to the powers that be, the ministers and indeed the Prime Minister who loves his football. We cannot ignore these opportunities that came by. This first game is all-important and we have an opportunity to play it in Port-of-Spain, and we're ignoring that, we're not taking it on. We've got the CMO, the Health Ministry stopping this. We've been in quarantine for 14 days. We were in the United States for a week and we were tested every single day. since we've been back, we've had three tests and daily monitors to make sure we are okay."

Since returning from the USA on February 3, the local players and technical staff have been in isolation quarantine for seven days and are now under home quarantine for a further seven days until Tuesday.
If the TT government don't want to host the football games the TTFA should move there home games to Florida.

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« Reply #1322 on: February 14, 2021, 10:44:47 AM »
If the TT government don't want to host the football games the TTFA should move there home games to Florida.

That may work. Who financing that ?

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« Reply #1323 on: February 14, 2021, 06:18:16 PM »
I am supportive of Fenwick on this issue. The government is sabotaging the TTFA in an act of it's normal tortoise-like decision making process. If we could host a three week CPL tournament in a bubble there is no reason we cannot host three teams in a football tournament. This is plain and simply shameful.
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« Reply #1324 on: February 14, 2021, 09:15:05 PM »
Cricket and Carnival makes money football don't.

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« Reply #1325 on: February 15, 2021, 10:46:57 AM »
I am supportive of Fenwick on this issue. The government is sabotaging the TTFA in an act of it's normal tortoise-like decision making process. If we could host a three week CPL tournament in a bubble there is no reason we cannot host three teams in a football tournament. This is plain and simply shameful.

BS- There is no deliberate sabotage- You paying a coach 20 K to coach a pick up team- now after the first cutarse- you getting deflection- rationalization  blaming-

Coach and put the best system forward- who is ultimately responsible for assessing the talent, fitness level, play structure and success of the team? not the government-  The COVID  situation is dynamic- and what was  during CPL  has changes with the new variants-

Public blaming is not going to solve this dilemma- You would think that the  governing sanction body FIFA would  have a COVID  plan that would involve  an alignment with  governments to ensure the hosting and playing of these games. In each of the professional  leagues in North America,  governance of play and protocols were assumed by the either NHL, NBA. NFL MLB along with federal . state of provincial health regulations.

In this case, FIFA as the overall  governance, should be assuming a lead in  presenting a plan to the government authorities, working alongside them and footing the bill  to ensure  testing and a 'bubble' environment to protect players and the general population is adhered to.

Instead we always have to default to blaming and scapegoating our inadequacies to the government.
 TF , as coach should stick to your lane and coach- shut your trap and focus on what it takes to  beat the team ahead of you.

Is not like we are blessed with the caliber of players like  Brazil, Germany , France or even Jamaica or Mexico. This is what you have at your disposal- mold  the young men looking for inspiration, leadership  , aspiration. Stop blabbering in areas you have no control and stick to what it takes to get the best and produce the best players.

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« Reply #1326 on: February 15, 2021, 11:16:58 AM »
FIFA as the overall  governance, should be assuming a lead in  presenting a plan to the government authorities, working alongside them and footing the bill  to ensure  testing and a 'bubble' environment to protect players and the general population is adhered to.


ABtrini, I agree with the above part of your statement. FiFa is the one who should be making it easier for the smaller and less wealthy members. I agree with Fenwick on this, though. NHL, NBA. NFL MLB, these 4 entities are wealthy organizations.  Also these games are confined to one or two cities in the US(one country). They can get corporate assistance to form bubbles to isolate their respective players to train and play. This was done for CPL, why not football.
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« Reply #1327 on: February 15, 2021, 03:02:11 PM »
I just read WHO has just approved Astrazeneca vaccine that is going to be used in the poor country's that might be good news for the football team maybe the government might relax the rules now.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1328 on: February 23, 2021, 02:28:39 AM »
Jones: No need for Fenwick to complain.
T&T Guardian Reports.


Despite the furore surrounding the inability of the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee to seal a World Cup qualifying match against Guyana here at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Mucurapo on March 25, Kenwyne Jones, a former national striker and captain, has said he sees no reason for coach Terry Fenwick to complain about this.

However, Evans Wise, the talented left-footed winger who was on the T&T team that played at the 2006 World Cup in Germany, as well as former Technical Director Anton Corneal believe, it's a major issue for T&T not to capitalise on home advantage.

Both men feel that not enough was done by the negotiating parties- the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee, being led by businessman Robert Hadad, Minister of Sport and Community Development Shamfa Cudjoe and officials from the Sport Company of T&T, Minister of Health Terrance Deyalsingh and his Chief Medical Officer Dr Roshan Parasram, for the match to be played in a football bubble, as is being done around the world.

T&T will contest Group F of the qualifiers that also include Puerto Rico, Bahamas and St Kitts/Nevis.

Following the Guyana encounter in the Dominican Republic, the Warriors will play their next two matches away to Puerto Rico on March 28 and then the Bahamas on April 5. They will complete the group phase with a match against St Kitts/Nevis on April 8 at home, needing to top the group to be able to advance.

On Saturday, Minister Cudjoe made the announcement during the Ministry of Health (MOH) coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic virtual press conference update, said: "The TTFA is saying that the players cannot quarantine and that she said is troubling for us here in T&T. 'The Players must quarantine' she stressed, especially the players coming from the United Kingdom, Denmark, Belgium, coming from countries with the new (COVID-19) strain that we are really concern about."

The Minister said: "The TTFA proposal was for the players to come-in travel from the airport to the Home of Football, play their game, stay for two days and then go back out. That does not provide anytime really for them to quarantine. The proposal has also asked for them to room two-people to a room." 

In response, a press release also on Saturday from the TTFA stated: "Over the last few months, we have been in discussions with the Ministry of Health (MOH), Sports Company of T&T, and other relevant Government agencies. Based on these discussions, numerous proposals and scenarios were put forward to host the match in T&T but unfortunately, none were ultimately successful, which would satisfy our FIFA mandates for international competitions."

The release continued: "The MOH’s protocol and guidelines mandate fourteen (14) days quarantine for anyone entering the country. This condition is not feasible given the FIFA international match window and the MOH has declined the TTFA’s request of an exemption to facilitate a hot-bubble which would allow members of both teams including staff, to arrive within a suitable time period conducive to international football."

According to Corneal: "I would have probably tried to continue speaking to our government and find ways to make it possible to play here. Of course, we have to look at the safety first of our people, and especially what we have done over the past eight months, containing the virus. I know there is a lot more that needs to be taken into consideration but losing the home advantage is a major issue when it comes to football or any sport."

Meanwhile, Wise called on the parties involved to come together for yet another time to allow the T&T footballers the opportunity at achieving home advantage, noting: "I definitely believe we're making a mistake. Home advantage is a plus, especially for an inexperience team and a team that hasn't played together for pretty much the whole year. I understand that guys have COVID-19 issues and quarantine protocols, but other countries did it. The US did it for us in the game we played recently, so I think it's unfortunate that we can't get that home advantage for players to boost their confidence, and also for the fans to get to see their team play."

He told Guardian Media Sports it will be important for coach Terry Fenwick to include some of the senior overseas players such as Kevin Molino, Khaleem Hyland, Joevin Jones etc, who will all be able to rally the younger players and be a driving force moving forward.

Fenwick's 7-o drubbing at the hands of the US, may not have only broken down players confidence, but it allowed the English-born coach to see what he had available to him.

Jones, on the other hand, following his public criticism of the national coach after the US defeat, said: "It's a neutral venue. The same woes T&T will be having, Guyana will probably have the same woes, so it's just about us going out on the pitch and playing the match to get the required result."

He added: "I don't see where the argument is really. Knowing what the situation is at hand, Mr Fenwick can't really complain. He had a game based on the conditions, based on how things have been rolled out here, so it's about him (Fenwick), after the quarantine period, coming back from the States, he should be focused on getting the team together, whatever plan he has down and trying to get everyone focused for that match in the Dominican Republic."

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1329 on: March 05, 2021, 04:56:14 PM »
Players question Fenwick's ability.
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian).


T&T's CONCACAF World Cup Qualifying campaign faces a snag due to major differences between the players and coach Terry Fenwick, which threatens the actual on-the-field play, starting with the Guyana game on March 25 in the Dominican Republic.

More than four players confided with Guardian Media Sports over the past week about their dissatisfaction with the preparation of the team by the former San Juan Jabloteh coach, while a circulating recording of other disgruntled players about the same situation confirmed the worry in the T&T camp.

The players who all spoke under condition of anonymity, said the public can prepare for a revolt in the T&T camp if the coach does not deal with the issues affecting the team, ahead of a difficult qualifying campaign. Some of the issues affecting the players include; routine training sessions; no clear laid-out structure of play for the team; the selection of players and the types of local practice matches being taken; the total disrespect of the local players; and the sidelining of assistant coach Derek King, among many other concerns, the players said.

According to the players: "We have seen that manager Adrian Romain seem to have more say than King. The assistant coach appears to be totally ignored by the senior coach. In addition, we can actually say what the next session would be like. We will go through some stretching drills, have a warm-up session and then play a game session. To date, we do not even know what system of play we will be playing," the players explained yesterday.

The players are also disturbed by the warm-up matches being taken by coach Fenwick, against under-21 age-old players, when more competitive games can be sought after, by using teams in the T&T Pro League.

King when contacted, said he was unaware that that was going on in the camp.

The former Arima North Secondary School defender who also played the role of assistant coach to former national coach Stephen Hart during the early part of the last World Cup qualifying campaign is expected to be replaced by Keon Trim, another player said.

Guardian Media Sports received a copy of a circulating voice recording on Tuesday in which some players were heard pleading with an official to reach out to coach Fenwick and talk to him about the situation. The players are expected to raise their concerns via a petition bearing the names and signatures of most or all the players, both junior and senior.

Calls and WhatsApp messages to coach Fenwick's phone went unanswered yesterday.

In Fenwick's only game to date, a friendly international against the USA men's national team on January 31, T&T was beaten 7-0 at Exploria Stadium in Orlando, USA.

The T&T team is stacked in Group F of the qualifiers, alongside Puerto Rico, Bahamas, Guyana and St Kitts/Nevis. A shake-up in the camp is the last thing needed presently as the team has already had to give up home advantage due to the worsening coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, caused by the new variant of the virus.

The Ministry of Health refused to accept a proposed football bubble to play the opening qualifier against Guyana at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Mucurapo on March 25, a decision that resulted in the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee negotiating to have the game played in the Dominican Republic.

After the Guyana affair, the T&T team will next be away to Puerto Rico (28 March), away to the Bahamas (5 June), and home to St Kitts and Nevis (8 June). The Warriors need to win the group to advance to play the winner of Group A, which features the likes of El Salvador, Antigua and Barbuda, Grenada, Montserrat, and the US Virgin Islands in the second round of the qualifiers.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1330 on: March 05, 2021, 05:18:05 PM »
Players question Fenwick's ability.
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian).


T&T's CONCACAF World Cup Qualifying campaign faces a snag due to major differences between the players and coach Terry Fenwick, which threatens the actual on-the-field play, starting with the Guyana game on March 25 in the Dominican Republic.

More than four players confided with Guardian Media Sports over the past week about their dissatisfaction with the preparation of the team by the former San Juan Jabloteh coach, while a circulating recording of other disgruntled players about the same situation confirmed the worry in the T&T camp.

The players who all spoke under condition of anonymity, said the public can prepare for a revolt in the T&T camp if the coach does not deal with the issues affecting the team, ahead of a difficult qualifying campaign. Some of the issues affecting the players include; routine training sessions; no clear laid-out structure of play for the team; the selection of players and the types of local practice matches being taken; the total disrespect of the local players; and the sidelining of assistant coach Derek King, among many other concerns, the players said.

According to the players: "We have seen that manager Adrian Romain seem to have more say than King. The assistant coach appears to be totally ignored by the senior coach. In addition, we can actually say what the next session would be like. We will go through some stretching drills, have a warm-up session and then play a game session. To date, we do not even know what system of play we will be playing," the players explained yesterday.

The players are also disturbed by the warm-up matches being taken by coach Fenwick, against under-21 age-old players, when more competitive games can be sought after, by using teams in the T&T Pro League.

King when contacted, said he was unaware that that was going on in the camp.

The former Arima North Secondary School defender who also played the role of assistant coach to former national coach Stephen Hart during the early part of the last World Cup qualifying campaign is expected to be replaced by Keon Trim, another player said.

Guardian Media Sports received a copy of a circulating voice recording on Tuesday in which some players were heard pleading with an official to reach out to coach Fenwick and talk to him about the situation. The players are expected to raise their concerns via a petition bearing the names and signatures of most or all the players, both junior and senior.

Calls and WhatsApp messages to coach Fenwick's phone went unanswered yesterday.

In Fenwick's only game to date, a friendly international against the USA men's national team on January 31, T&T was beaten 7-0 at Exploria Stadium in Orlando, USA.

The T&T team is stacked in Group F of the qualifiers, alongside Puerto Rico, Bahamas, Guyana and St Kitts/Nevis. A shake-up in the camp is the last thing needed presently as the team has already had to give up home advantage due to the worsening coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, caused by the new variant of the virus.

The Ministry of Health refused to accept a proposed football bubble to play the opening qualifier against Guyana at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Mucurapo on March 25, a decision that resulted in the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee negotiating to have the game played in the Dominican Republic.

After the Guyana affair, the T&T team will next be away to Puerto Rico (28 March), away to the Bahamas (5 June), and home to St Kitts and Nevis (8 June). The Warriors need to win the group to advance to play the winner of Group A, which features the likes of El Salvador, Antigua and Barbuda, Grenada, Montserrat, and the US Virgin Islands in the second round of the qualifiers.

Never liked this guy, had a FEW bad experience with him, I really am surprised Fenwick and his involvement with him from ever since.

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« Reply #1331 on: March 05, 2021, 05:37:42 PM »
Question  his ability
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« Reply #1332 on: March 05, 2021, 08:02:03 PM »
We are in asking answers territory. Maybe the beach soccer coach might have a new gig. ;)

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« Reply #1333 on: March 06, 2021, 12:41:50 AM »
An ongoing saga with these trinidadians, what’s new? if it ain’t one thing it’s another with these self destructive people. they’re not even worth the effort nor have they accomplish anything but they’re always complaining and boycotting.

I’ve seen this new crew takedown two coaches, Steve hart and the Belgian bloke who only lasted a month. those bastards refused to represent the country but found time to play in a fete match between carenage and st anns, leaving the team to get beaten out the gold cup by haiti and surename.

I only wish fenwick would have moved on from these clowns especially the carenage crew, in fact I’m sure they are the ones behind this. it’s every time we try to get football off the ground these unhappy dick heads in and around football always seem to find ways to kill morale. seems to me we will never get it together, I really need a new team to follow yes.

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« Reply #1334 on: March 06, 2021, 04:20:34 PM »
T&T footballers deny reports of disunity in camp
By Jelani Beckles (T&T Newsday).


T&T footballers Duane Muckette and Alvin Jones have denied claims that there is turmoil within the camp, saying that under head coach Terry Fenwick the team is trying to build chemistry and keep focused leading into the opening 2022 FIFA World Cup Concacaf Zone qualifying match against Guyana in Dominican Republic on March 25.

On Friday, a story in another daily newspaper, said, "More than four players confided with Guardian Media Sports over the past week about their dissatisfaction with the preparation of the team by the former San Juan Jabloteh coach (Fenwick), while a circulating recording of other disgruntled players about the same situation confirmed the worry in the T&T camp." The players chose to remain anonymous.

The story added that the public can prepare for a revolt in the T&T camp if the matters are not sorted out.

Some of the issues raised according to the story are that there is "no clear laid out structure of play for the team, the selection of players and the types of local practice matches being taken, the total disrespect of the local players and the sidelining of assistant coach Derek King."

Muckette and Jones spoke to the media following a training session at the St James Police Barracks.

"For me I think that we've been working stride in stride in trying to prepare as best as possible for the game," Muckette said. "We know things around the team are not perfect, but within the team we are coming every day and we are working and trying to get as prepared as possible for the game coming up."

The T&T-Guyana match was originally scheduled to be played at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Mucurapo, but due to this country's covid19 protocols the venue for the match was changed. National footballers playing for clubs overseas must quarantine for 14 days on arrival in this country making it difficult to play the match in T&T. FIFA has a rule where clubs are not required to let their players leave for national duty if a quarantine period is needed for five days or more.

Muckette, who admitted that he would have liked the team to play international practice matches before the qualifiers, believes T&T can deliver a strong performance. "We are confident, confident in the work that we have been putting in...with that preparation confidence is going to come and it is going to build and we continue to work as hard as possible, so that we feel like we have prepared as best as possible for the game."

Over the last few months T&T were targeting friendly matches against the likes of Dominica and St Vincent/Grenadines, but they have not materialised.

Asked if the local players have a voice, Muckette said, "Yeah. Like I said all of us are inspired and motivated because this opportunity is something that we wanted for a long time."

The local-based players have been training off and on since the middle of last year and Muckette said the team is building cohesion. "The longer we are together as a team the better it will be for us...the different spells we had that was good in the USA game are just areas that we can build upon."

T&T lost 7-0 to the US in a friendly on January 31 with the local players showing promise when they were introduced.

Muckette added that the players are adapting to Fenwick's style.

Jones, discussing the report that there is discord in the camp, said, "I think in every family you will have ups and downs. I don't know anyone personally who had a problem. We as players have probably one or two issues but that is between us. I was surprised (to hear those reports) because for me personally nothing like that I heard of or saw, so I was a little surprised."

On training under Fenwick, Jones said, "Every coach has their way of doing things. Fenwick has his own (and) we as players just have to respect his decision, trust the process and just believe in his work and see where we go from there."

Jones knows the importance of the Guyana match and said the players must "embrace" the challenge of playing in Dominican Republic.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1335 on: March 07, 2021, 01:01:44 AM »
The truth may be somewhere in the middle ?

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« Reply #1336 on: March 07, 2021, 01:24:23 AM »
Yuh see what people mean when they say to kill 2 birds with 1 stone Look Loy trough the 2018 WC team under the bus when he fired Z Vanes and now he come back and trough the 2022 WC team under the bus when he hired T Fenwick that's why they say you must never give a yes man any power he only good to be a yes man.

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« Reply #1337 on: March 07, 2021, 02:21:17 AM »
Yuh see what people mean when they say to kill 2 birds with 1 stone Look Loy trough the 2018 WC team under the bus when he fired Z Vanes and now he come back and trough the 2022 WC team under the bus when he hired T Fenwick that's why they say you must never give a yes man any power he only good to be a yes man.
you know as long as I’ve known you online there has never been a time when you’re here to enjoy the interaction and exchange ideas amicably, instead every time you engage the forum there’s always a level of bitterness and acrimony in you speech, it’s almost like your only reason for being here is to clash with the forum and rub it in good.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1339 on: March 09, 2021, 02:28:03 AM »
Fenwick: Players choosing jobs over training.
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday).


A LACK of financial support from the FIFA-appointed normalisation committee, which deals with the affairs of the TT Football Association (TTFA), is hampering the preparations of the national men’s team ahead of a pair of 2022 FIFA World Cup qualifiers.

They are due to be played against Guyana (March 25 in the Dominican Republic) and Puerto Rico (March 28 in Puerto Rico).

T&T men’s team coach Terry Fenwick said local-based players are having to choose their jobs instead of attending training sessions, especially since the TT Pro League has been inactive since the covid19 lockdown in March 2020.

“This last weekend we were meant to be in Tobago for a camp, to play two games, and the normalisation (committee) couldn’t secure transport (to and from Tobago) for us, which has been pretty much consistent,” said Fenwick on Monday.

The T&T team were expected to play an Orange XI and Tobago Phoenix last weekend in Tobago. Instead, they were only able to face the Orange XI on Saturday, at the Police Barracks in St James, a game in which T&T prevailed 8-0.

“The Commissioner of Police (Gary Griffith) has given us transport throughout 2020 and this year, and we’ve not had much support (from the normalisation committee) as far as that is concerned,” Fenwick said. “It was great to bring the twin isles together, to see the guys that they have.

“We’re literally making things happen. I’ve got players that are unable to travel for training because they’ve got no money. I’ve got players that are having to choose a job rather than train with the national team, because of a lack of funding.”

There has been talk about Griffith’s involvement in the team, as the players have used the barracks (as well as the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Mucurapo) as a training venue, while Griffith’s son Gary III is among the T&T training squad.

Fenwick was quick to point out, “Unless we’d had the support from (Commissioner) Griffith, we would have had no transport for the players to come from Central and South for training sessions. They would not have been fed, nor even (received) drinks. My Football Factory is providing a great deal of equipment for training sessions. We literally are scrambling to keep things going. It’s not easy.

“We’ve had friendlies that have been quashed because we’ve not been able to keep up with the schedules that the technical staff have submitted for friendlies and training sessions. We’ve not had any response.”

Asked if he thinks the lack of support the team has received is related to its 7-0 battering by hosts United States in a friendly international on January 31, Fenwick responded, “Not really.

“We hadn’t kicked a ball in 14-15 months, in the Pro League. The USA game was the only game I’ve had since the normalisation (committee) took over, and that came at no expense to the TTFA.

“If it came around again, I’d take it again. It was an option to see players and get them experience.”

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1340 on: March 09, 2021, 07:39:00 AM »
T&T men’s team coach Terry Fenwick said local-based players are having to choose their jobs instead of attending training sessions, especially since the TT Pro League has been inactive since the covid19 lockdown in March 2020.

So what good is this normalization committee? They are supposed to bring order. Is complete disorder ?

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1341 on: March 09, 2021, 08:26:44 AM »
T&T men’s team coach Terry Fenwick said local-based players are having to choose their jobs instead of attending training sessions, especially since the TT Pro League has been inactive since the covid19 lockdown in March 2020.

So what good is this normalization committee? They are supposed to bring order. Is complete disorder ?

Don't forget, we qualify as a "professional" league in the region, what a joke.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1342 on: March 09, 2021, 09:38:53 AM »
Fenwick challenged .....
https://wired868.com/2021/03/08/rangers-challenge-soca-warriors-beat-us-and-we-pay-tt100000-fenwick-mum/
The Rangers offer follows a protracted stand-off between both camps, as Ferguson has consistently refused to release his players to the national team outside of the mandatory Fifa international match window.
This is the idiocy of Trinidad and Tobago football.  With no functional league and no football being played, what international window is Ferguson protecting. There is no way forward if these ego-driven, inept coaches continue to believe that they have some national valiue.
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1343 on: March 09, 2021, 11:15:40 AM »
Fenwick challenged .....
https://wired868.com/2021/03/08/rangers-challenge-soca-warriors-beat-us-and-we-pay-tt100000-fenwick-mum/
The Rangers offer follows a protracted stand-off between both camps, as Ferguson has consistently refused to release his players to the national team outside of the mandatory Fifa international match window.
This is the idiocy of Trinidad and Tobago football.  With no functional league and no football being played, what international window is Ferguson protecting. There is no way forward if these ego-driven, inept coaches continue to believe that they have some national valiue.

As far as I know Ferguson is the owner, not a coach. I could be wrong.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1344 on: March 09, 2021, 11:26:22 AM »
Fenwick challenged .....
https://wired868.com/2021/03/08/rangers-challenge-soca-warriors-beat-us-and-we-pay-tt100000-fenwick-mum/
The Rangers offer follows a protracted stand-off between both camps, as Ferguson has consistently refused to release his players to the national team outside of the mandatory Fifa international match window.
This is the idiocy of Trinidad and Tobago football.  With no functional league and no football being played, what international window is Ferguson protecting. There is no way forward if these ego-driven, inept coaches continue to believe that they have some national valiue.

As far as I know Ferguson is the owner, not a coach. I could be wrong.

You're correct. He is the owner, but the coach has signed off on this as well.

I was beginning to wonder whether my take on La Horquetta's approach was the minority view. I have to agree with Storeboy. And, I hope the squad does not exclude Rangers players based on non-footballing reasons.
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1345 on: March 17, 2021, 04:19:45 PM »
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"The TTFA further advises that the matter was blown out of proportion as Fenwick only chose to express his disapproval of a certain member of the media fraternity being present at a scheduled Media Briefing on the eve of the Team’s departure for the Dominican Republic for the upcoming CONCACAF World Cup qualifier against Guyana.

https://guardian.co.tt/sports/furious-fenwick-attacks-ttfa-media-officer-6.2.1303099.ca11c0b4d9

What kind of nonsense is that? And why is that view seemingly endorsed by the TTFA?

Why is Fenwick of the view that he gets to pick and choose which media personnel cover the national team? Seems to me the federation media release may have been incomplete and inadequate.

Either way, who is on the squad?
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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1347 on: March 18, 2021, 07:26:24 AM »
Step back in time ... 2003 - Cobblers sack Terry Fenwick... after 49 days in charge.

From what I've read, it was more about the chaos in the boardroom than anything Fenwick did. He took over a team that was in total chaos and the change in management almost always means new management will clean house. Having said that, Fenwick's personality does not always bode well for congeniality and compromise. Let's see what he makes of this opportunity. I am willing to give him a honeymoon through the Gold Cup 2021.
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« Reply #1348 on: March 18, 2021, 11:03:55 AM »
Step back in time ... 2003 - Cobblers sack Terry Fenwick... after 49 days in charge.

From what I've read, it was more about the chaos in the boardroom than anything Fenwick did. He took over a team that was in total chaos and the change in management almost always means new management will clean house. Having said that, Fenwick's personality does not always bode well for congeniality and compromise. Let's see what he makes of this opportunity. I am willing to give him a honeymoon through the Gold Cup 2021.

The privilege of coaching at the Gold Cup should bear some correlation to the product delivered in the preceding WC qualifying matches. That stated, in principle, I agree with your view.

Incidentally, just so everyone is clear, I would not have posted that article but for its recent publication (February 26, 2021). The best thing for all involved is for Fenwick to settle into the job without a perpetual sense of agitation. However, to earn a long cycle there must be a demonstration of process that matches the competitive challenge. The balance sheet is tenuous at the moment.

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Re: Terry Fenwick Thread.
« Reply #1349 on: March 18, 2021, 01:35:39 PM »
Step back in time ... 2003 - Cobblers sack Terry Fenwick... after 49 days in charge.

From what I've read, it was more about the chaos in the boardroom than anything Fenwick did. He took over a team that was in total chaos and the change in management almost always means new management will clean house. Having said that, Fenwick's personality does not always bode well for congeniality and compromise. Let's see what he makes of this opportunity. I am willing to give him a honeymoon through the Gold Cup 2021.

The privilege of coaching at the Gold Cup should bear some correlation to the product delivered in the preceding WC qualifying matches. That stated, in principle, I agree with your view.

Incidentally, just so everyone is clear, I would not have posted that article but for its recent publication (February 26, 2021). The best thing for all involved is for Fenwick to settle into the job without a perpetual sense of agitation. However, to earn a long cycle there must be a demonstration of process that matches the competitive challenge. The balance sheet is tenuous at the moment.

I couldn't agree with you more but for one caveat. We continue to change and fire coaches at an enormous cost. Unfortunately, we are not financially endowed like some NCAA colleges and Professional teams with seemingly unlimited coffers.  Where will we find the money to pay off Hart, Lawrence, and all the unpaid assistant coaches and unpaid player match fees. We are in a deeper financial hole of doodoo if this doesn't work out.
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