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WC Ticket Warning
« on: May 08, 2006, 07:54:45 AM »
Ticket warning for World Cup fans 

Monday, 8 May 2006, 08:50 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4983794.stm
 
Fans are being warned not to buy tickets from touts
Fans buying tickets on auction websites for the World Cup are paying huge mark-ups and risk getting turned away at the turnstiles, a report has warned.
Tickets for the football tournament sold via unauthorised websites are, on average, 327% more expensive than their face value, security firm G4S found.

Two tickets for the England v Trinidad & Tobago fixture sold online for £1,500 - 2,307% over the original sale price.

Security checks could mean fans with such tickets are barred from matches.

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"Fifa has implemented a rigorous identification system for the World Cup finals, so supporters purchasing tickets from touts could face severe disappointment," said Douglas Greenwell from G4S.

"If the ticket holder's details do not match those of the purchaser they will be refused entry to the stadium."

Tickets are issued in the name of the applicant or guest specified in the original order and an ID or passport number is required.

According to the terms and conditions of sale, tickets can only be transferred by an application to the Fifa World Cup organising committee.

Thousands of tickets are being sold illegally by online auction sites and tickets touts despite the fact the UK government has banned the unlicensed sale of tickets for the finals, G4S added.

 

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Blatter fears ticket problems as Cup nears
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2006, 11:32:59 AM »
Blatter fears ticket problems as Cup nears
   
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 LONDON (AP) - FIFA president Sepp Blatter wants World Cup organizers to sort out a ticketing problem which could lead to crowd trouble outside the stadiums and empty seats inside.

 
German organizers insist that each of the 3 million tickets issued for the 64 games has the owner's name on it and must be checked against personal identification before fans are allowed inside the venues.

FIFA fears the system will lead to long lines of frustrated fans, triggering possible violence and leaving half-empty stadiums.

"The German organizers are in the very uncomfortable situation and, if the German organizers are uncomfortable then FIFA is also uncomfortable," Blatter told reporters Monday on a visit to London. "They have weeks to solve this problem and this is clearly a German problem."

The tournament kicks off June 9 and runs through July 9.

Blatter, who talked about the ticketing issues with Franz Beckenbauer and other organizing committee members on Friday, said it was not FIFA's fault that the situation had developed.

"These are measures taken by a German government who will make sure that the World Cup is safe," he said. "I will have a meeting with (German Chancellor) Angela Merkel but even she won't be able to change anything."

 

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Re: Blatter fears ticket problems as Cup nears
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2006, 11:35:17 AM »
BLATTER CONCERN OVER TICKETS
(sportinglife.com)
By Martyn Ziegler, PA Chief Sports Reporter


FIFA president Sepp Blatter has admitted looming problems over World Cup tickets at next month's tournament are still unresolved.

German organisers and government officials are insisting every single ticket must be checked against passports or ID cards before fans are allowed into the stadia.

FIFA fear such a rigid stance will lead to huge queues, delays, half-empty stadia and possibly crowd trouble - but insist they are powerless to force any changes.

Blatter met World Cup organising president Franz Beckenbauer and ticket chief Horst Schmidt on Friday but was unable to reach any agreement.

He told a media briefing in London: "There has been no movement towards a more flexible solution because they say they have to control every single visitor to the stadium.

"The German organisers are in a very uncomfortable situation. On one side you have the governmental authorities in charge of security who say in such a perturbed world it's not enough to protect the borders of Germany, but they have to look at everyone going to the stadium.

"That's why they have issued these regulations all tickets must be identified at the barrier.

"Then you have human rights organisations saying this is personal data that must be protected."

Blatter will raise the issue when he meets German chancellor Angela Merkel next week but said the consequences were clear.

He added: "It's obvious if you do this control it will cause delays. How long will it take to let people into the stadium, and what happens if a father has given his ticket to his son?

"They have just three weeks to solve this problem, but it's a German problem. We cannot tell them to change it but we can put a question mark about how it will work."

Blatter has also defended the ticket allocation to fans for the World Cup. Each national association was awarded only 8% of tickets to sell to their own fans, although more have since been made available.

FIFA also give 16% of tickets to their commercial sponsors.

Blatter said: "We could sell such a competition 10 times over but 66% of tickets are sold to the public, and of those that go to sponsors 70-80% of those go to the fans through competitions."

Meanwhile, Blatter revealed FIFA are to appoint an independent ethics body to oversee the organisation.

The current ethics committee is made up of FIFA officials and appointed representatives and he admits that an independent watchdog was needed instead.

It follows FIFA vice-president Jack Warner being cleared by the ethics committee of a conflict of interest after a travel agency owned by his family secured the rights to sell all Trinidad and Tobago's World Cup ticket allocation. Warner is an official adviser to the T&T football association.

In a separate issue, Blatter claimed the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has turned down an offer by the Court for Arbitration in Sport for their officials to help negotiate between the two bodies in an effort to settle the remaining differences over the worldwide code on drugs.


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Online World Cup scalpers meet high-tech resistance
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2006, 03:00:28 PM »
Online World Cup scalpers meet high-tech resistance
By Doreen Carvajal International Herald Tribune

MONDAY, MAY 8, 2006
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/07/business/tkts.php

PARIS With tickets for World Cup games almost as precious as goals, desperate soccer fans are flocking to the Web to engage in a form of ticket scalping that comes with the usual huge markups and red-card threats to eject secondhand buyers from the stadiums.
 
New technology is a bane and a blessing for frantic international buyers in the last stage of sales for the remaining 3.1 million tickets to 64 games that begin in June across Germany.
 
The prized tickets are trophies in a strict selling and trading system, developed by Germany's local soccer organizing committee, to combat advanced online globalization of the black market. The organizers' weapons are pinhead-size radio frequency microchips inserted in tickets and old- fashioned shrill threats. Privacy advocates in Germany are more worried about the chips, raising Big Brother alarms about their links to an electronic database of personal information about purchasers.
 
The rules are that legally purchased tickets, with unique identification codes contained on individual chips, can be transferred only among relatives or in connection with hardship cases, not excluding assorted events of mass destruction like epidemics, earthquakes, natural catastrophes and acts of war.
 
But barring plagues and locusts, hope is eternal. Tickets for the finals are selling for upward of $3,000 on eBay in the United States, which has emerged as a ticket exchange of last resort because of new restrictions in Britain, where World Cup ticket scalping is a criminal offense.
 
Soccer governing bodies like FIFA, which presides over the World Cup, and UEFA, the European soccer authority, had lobbied hard for restrictions, arguing that it was a security issue, because violent fans could buy tickets online through individual sellers and find themselves seated next to rival supporters.
 
"The days of a ticket tout standing in the shadows are so far gone," said Jerry McGrath, legal counsel for UEFA, who noted that "traditionally the concern is the breakdown of crowd segregation so that different clubs and national teams are separated. Online sales threaten segregation because it is an uncontrolled market."
 
Britain has gone the furthest to regulate ticket sales, although sports bodies have unsuccessfully pressed eBay, the online auction company, to halt trading on Web sites in Germany and the United States, where similar regulation does not exist.
 
"We look at local laws and how they apply in every country," said Catherine England, a spokeswoman for eBay. "The policies reflect the legal statues in those countries."
 
The eBay site in the United States has become something of a Wild West, drawing global participation after Britain banned World Cup ticket scalping.
 
Ebay takes the view that the risks reside with the ticket buyer in cases of passes that are refused at stadium gates. So do some security experts.
 
"I would advise any fan, caveat emptor," said Douglas Greenwell of Group 4 Securicor, a security group for sporting events that has tracked Internet sales. "At worst, they're going to lose all their money. At best, the ticket is legitimate, but they may not get entry into the stadiums."
 
"Consider," he added, "watching it on television."
 
In a report to be issued Monday, Group 4 Securicor says World Cup tickets with a face value of as much as €600, or $764, were selling for an average of more than €1,400 through online outlets. In April, when its survey took place, a pair of tickets to see England play Trinidad and Tobago in Nuremberg on June 15 sold for almost €2,200. Prices have been climbing even higher.
 
Meanwhile, German organizers and FIFA officials continue to urge fans to shun the black market and buy through official channels at www.FIFAworldcup.com or trade tickets on another officially sanctioned site where they are sold at face value.
 
Last-minute tickets, however, were difficult to obtain in the stage of sales that began in May, when tickets were made available sporadically as corporate sponsors released the ones that they did not plan to use.
 
High-paying corporate sponsors of World Cup games could claim as many as 490,000 of the 3.1 million tickets, although FIFA said companies ultimately exercised an option to buy only 380,000, more than 12 percent of the total.
 
"Consumers should take note," a FIFA press official said. "Match tickets that are obtained by way of an illicit ticket sale or promotion will be automatically subject to a possible cancellation."
 
In the officials' view, tickets purchased through any vehicle other than the official FIFA Web site were illicit sales. FIFA and the local organizing committee are betting they can maintain control on unauthorized sales through radio frequency chip technology. The microchips, with tiny antennas, were developed by Philips, the Dutch consumer electronics maker, which has paid more than €30 million to be one of the 15 World Cup sponsors.
 
This is the chip's first appearance in a major global sports event, although it already is in use in Real Madrid's stadium in Spain and in sports venues in Atlanta and Philadelphia.
 
To enter through stadium turnstiles at all World Cup games, visitors will have to pass their tickets over electronic readers that check the validity.
 
The chips, according to Alexander Tarzi, a spokesman for Philips, do not contain personal information but rather an identity code linked to a database of information supplied by original ticket holders. Security staff can match passport numbers and names supplied by the original purchaser with the fan at the gate.
 
In theory, it provides a check, but in practice, with massive numbers of people moving into the stadiums, black market ticket sellers are offering different advice. "It's very unlikely they will check," said one eBay seller in the United States who was offering two tickets for Paraguay vs. Sweden. "Half the stadium would have to be empty, and they definitely wouldn't want that. So I wouldn't worry."
 
The trove of information linked electronically to the tickets has upset privacy advocates, who question why buyers were asked to supply their birth dates, e-mail address, passport number and bank account numbers.
 
"This is just a way to establish technology in Germany by imposing it on millions of football fans who are so eager to get a ticket that they would accept anything," said Rena Tangens, a spokeswoman for Foebud, a privacy rights group based in Biefeld, Germany.
 
"They ask your mobile phone number, your nationality and even what team you support, and we think that this is pretty dangerous in a country like Germany that has been big on nationalism in the past."
 
Thilo Weichert, a public official with the Independent Center for Data Protection in the German state of Schleswig-Holstein, said he suspected that the real importance of the data was to gather marketing information.
 
"They want the names to sell to the sponsors," he said. "In the small print of contract conditions, there are indications they want this information. And they want it not only from the ticket holders but the ones who applied for tickets and didn't get anything."
 
Asked if World Cup sponsors could mine the information, Stephan Eiermann of the local organizing committee in Frankfurt offered a qualified answer.
 
"Generally, it is not planned to pass on any stored information," he said. But he added: "Upon placing their ticket order, each applicant had to explicitly consent to their data being passed on to third parties. If the applicant hasn't ticked the respective box in the form, their data will definitely not be used for any other purpose."
 
Philips hopes to introduce its chip technology at other global sport events, like the Olympics.
 
And some experts on sponsorships consider ticketing, with its trove of customer information, a new area for exploitation by companies paying huge amounts for partnership rights.
 
"This is, after all," said Nigel Currie, chairman of the European Sponsorship Association, in London, "the biggest branding event in the world."
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Re: Online World Cup scalpers meet high-tech resistance
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2006, 03:04:14 PM »
I added the bold and italics.
But is interesting that all the high0tech stuff will be overwhelmed by human factors. Simply - you can't check everyone's papers. I was wondering abou that, but still not looking to test the system myself.

The question for me is not so much one of privacy, but rather, do fans really want to go to the game with passport in hand? (as opposed to the hotel safe) After all, when we beat Sweden/England/Paraguay, it will be like j'ouvert and men might end up sleeping in a drain somewhere covered in oil...
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Re: Online World Cup scalpers meet high-tech resistance
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2006, 12:42:07 AM »
The question for me is not so much one of privacy, but rather, do fans really want to go to the game with passport in hand? (as opposed to the hotel safe) After all, when we beat Sweden/England/Paraguay, it will be like j'ouvert and men might end up sleeping in a drain somewhere covered in oil...

Exactly! Men go be drunk and partyin hard, and they want me to carry passport in my back pocket so it could fall out or get tief :)
The whole thing is chaos. Make sure you take photocopies, real men gettin stranded in Germany this rounds.

 

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