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Received this from a partner in an email...just thought I would share.

The Youth who pull up in the sweat, take heed...as well as the Liverpool and WHam players who were dropping like flies.


Lactic Acid Is Not Muscles' Foe, It's Fuel

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By GINA KOLATA

New York Times

Everyone who has even thought about exercising has heard the warnings about lactic acid. It builds up in your muscles. It is what makes your muscles burn. Its buildup is what makes your muscles tire and give out.

Coaches and personal trainers tell athletes and exercisers that they have to learn to work out at just below their "lactic threshold," that point of diminishing returns when lactic acid starts to accumulate. Some athletes even have blood tests to find their personal lactic thresholds.

But that, it turns out, is all wrong. Lactic acid is actually a fuel, not a caustic waste product. Muscles make it deliberately, producing it from glucose, and they burn it to obtain energy. The reason trained athletes can perform so hard and so long is because their intense training causes their muscles to adapt so they more readily and efficiently absorb lactic acid.

The notion that lactic acid was bad took hold more than a century ago, said George A. Brooks, a professor in the department of integrative biology at the University of California, Berkeley. It stuck because it seemed to make so much sense.

"It's one of the classic mistakes in the history of science," Dr. Brooks said.

Its origins lie in a study by a Nobel laureate, Otto Meyerhof, who in the early years of the 20th century cut a frog in half and put its bottom half in a jar. The frog's muscles had no circulation — no source of oxygen or energy.

Dr. Myerhoff gave the frog's leg electric shocks to make the muscles contract, but after a few twitches, the muscles stopped moving. Then, when Dr. Myerhoff examined the muscles, he discovered that they were bathed in lactic acid.

A theory was born. Lack of oxygen to muscles leads to lactic acid, leads to fatigue.

Athletes were told that they should spend most of their effort exercising aerobically, using glucose as a fuel. If they tried to spend too much time exercising harder, in the anaerobic zone, they were told, they would pay a price, that lactic acid would accumulate in the muscles, forcing them to stop.

Few scientists questioned this view, Dr. Brooks said. But, he said, he became interested in it in the 1960's, when he was running track at Queens College and his coach told him that his performance was limited by a buildup of lactic acid.

When he graduated and began working on a Ph.D. in exercise physiology, he decided to study the lactic acid hypothesis for his dissertation.

"I gave rats radioactive lactic acid, and I found that they burned it faster than anything else I could give them," Dr. Brooks said.

It looked as if lactic acid was there for a reason. It was a source of energy.

Dr. Brooks said he published the finding in the late 70's. Other researchers challenged him at meetings and in print.

"I had huge fights, I had terrible trouble getting my grants funded, I had my papers rejected," Dr. Brooks recalled. But he soldiered on, conducting more elaborate studies with rats and, years later, moving on to humans. Every time, with every study, his results were consistent with his radical idea.

Eventually, other researchers confirmed the work. And gradually, the thinking among exercise physiologists began to change.

"The evidence has continued to mount," said L. Bruce Gladden, a professor of health and human performance at Auburn University. "It became clear that it is not so simple as to say, Lactic acid is a bad thing and it causes fatigue."

As for the idea that lactic acid causes muscle soreness, Dr. Gladden said, that never made sense.

"Lactic acid will be gone from your muscles within an hour of exercise," he said. "You get sore one to three days later. The time frame is not consistent, and the mechanisms have not been found."

The understanding now is that muscle cells convert glucose or glycogen to lactic acid. The lactic acid is taken up and used as a fuel by mitochondria, the energy factories in muscle cells.

Mitochondria even have a special transporter protein to move the substance into them, Dr. Brooks found. Intense training makes a difference, he said, because it can make double the mitochondrial mass.

It is clear that the old lactic acid theory cannot explain what is happening to muscles, Dr. Brooks and others said.

Yet, Dr. Brooks said, even though coaches often believed in the myth of the lactic acid threshold, they ended up training athletes in the best way possible to increase their mitochondria. "Coaches have understood things the scientists didn't," he said.

Through trial and error, coaches learned that athletic performance improved when athletes worked on endurance, running longer and longer distances, for example.

That, it turns out, increased the mass of their muscle mitochondria, letting them burn more lactic acid and allowing the muscles to work harder and longer.

Just before a race, coaches often tell athletes to train very hard in brief spurts.

That extra stress increases the mitochondria mass even more, Dr. Brooks said, and is the reason for improved performance.

And the scientists?

They took much longer to figure it out.

"They said, 'You're anaerobic, you need more oxygen,' " Dr. Brooks said. "The scientists were stuck in 1920."

 

 



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Re: Learn Something...... Lactic Acid is not muscles' foe, It's Fuel
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2006, 09:41:36 AM »
How does ATP fit into this new explanation ???
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Re: Learn Something...... Lactic Acid is not muscles' foe, It's Fuel
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2006, 10:46:58 AM »
Very interesting Article...I think they still teaching people differently all now

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Re: Learn Something...... Lactic Acid is not muscles' foe, It's Fuel
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 11:46:24 AM »
I trying to get some feedback....I not sure if it works this way...but this is what I've been coached to do....

aerobic(e.g. running for 30-60 mins) vs. anaerobic(e.g. shuttles, intervals, wind sprints..i.e. running at high intensity at short bursts)....

I've learned that you should initially train with more aerobic training sessions than anaerobic(e.g. 3 aerobic sessions and 1 anaerobic session weekly), until you get a strong aerobic base, for the purpose of building lung capacity and endurance.

Once you have attained a certain aerobic base, the majority of your training should be anaerobicly based(e.g. 3 anaerobic sessions and maybe 1 aerobic session weekly). The reason for this is that when you work your anaerobic system you also work your aerobic as well(but it doesn't work the other way around).   You usually have at least 1 aerobic session weekly to flush out the lactic acid....

now from the article...it stated that lactic acid is out of your system after 1 hr.....so I kinda confused....what's the purpose of this aerobic run...what am i flushing out by doing this run....or have I been taught wrong?

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Re: Learn Something...... Lactic Acid is not muscles' foe, It's Fuel
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2006, 12:49:46 PM »
I am a cyclist, doh I have been out for the last 4weeks, recovering from some broken ribs.... but I can tell you for an endurance athlete its your VO2 max that counts—the maximum amount of oxygen your lungs can take in.

Although having a high VO2 max will certainly help in football, its not really a big factor because football is not an endurance sport and although lactic acid build up affects all manners of athletic activity, the effects are more pronounced in power movements or endurance events such as triathlons,weight lifting etc.... Although these affect footballers, its relatively on a minute scale.... 

The way I have always looked at it was lactic acid is secreted during exercise to foster the creation of more ATP, which allows the body to produce energy anerobically. After a race I will normally take about 30mins-45 mins to remove lactic acid but a proper warm down is essential to feed the muscles with oxygen.

"The normal amount of lactic acid circulating in the blood is about 1 to 2 millimoles/litre of blood. The onset of blood lactate accumulation (OBLA) occurs between 2 and 4 millimoles/litre of blood. In non athletes this point is about 50% to 60% VO2 max and in trained athletes around 70% to 80% VO2 max."

 
« Last Edit: May 16, 2006, 02:21:41 PM by marcus »

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Re: Learn Something...... Lactic Acid is not muscles' foe, It's Fuel
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2006, 02:31:03 PM »
This is interesting and people have argued this topic in recent times. The thing about training s that it always flip flops in terms of what is good or should I say better.
Its like stretching that we know now is not necessary before exercise and has no relationship to injury prevention; certainly not as important as a good warm up. But recommended after the work out.
But Marcus is right an efficient system to transport Oxygen is the important factor. This is why Mexico has an advantage when they train at altitude and come down to sea level.
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Re: Learn Something...... Lactic Acid is not muscles' foe, It's Fuel
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2006, 02:44:00 PM »
I am a cyclist, doh I have been out for the last 4weeks, recovering from some broken ribs.... but I can tell you for an endurance athlete its your VO2 max that counts—the maximum amount of oxygen your lungs can take in.

Although having a high VO2 max will certainly help in football, its not really a big factor because football is not an endurance sport and although lactic acid build up affects all manners of athletic activity, the effects are more pronounced in power movements or endurance events such as triathlons,weight lifting etc.... Although these affect footballers, its relatively on a minute scale.... 

The way I have always looked at it was lactic acid is secreted during exercise to foster the creation of more ATP, which allows the body to produce energy anerobically. After a race I will normally take about 30mins-45 mins to remove lactic acid but a proper warm down is essential to feed the muscles with oxygen.

"The normal amount of lactic acid circulating in the blood is about 1 to 2 millimoles/litre of blood. The onset of blood lactate accumulation (OBLA) occurs between 2 and 4 millimoles/litre of blood. In non athletes this point is about 50% to 60% VO2 max and in trained athletes around 70% to 80% VO2 max."

 
Another related question Marcus. What effect does caffeine have on this energy production mechanism?
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Re: Learn Something...... Lactic Acid is not muscles' foe, It's Fuel
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2006, 03:18:16 PM »
I am a cyclist, doh I have been out for the last 4weeks, recovering from some broken ribs.... but I can tell you for an endurance athlete its your VO2 max that counts—the maximum amount of oxygen your lungs can take in.

Although having a high VO2 max will certainly help in football, its not really a big factor because football is not an endurance sport and although lactic acid build up affects all manners of athletic activity, the effects are more pronounced in power movements or endurance events such as triathlons,weight lifting etc.... Although these affect footballers, its relatively on a minute scale.... 

The way I have always looked at it was lactic acid is secreted during exercise to foster the creation of more ATP, which allows the body to produce energy anerobically. After a race I will normally take about 30mins-45 mins to remove lactic acid but a proper warm down is essential to feed the muscles with oxygen.

"The normal amount of lactic acid circulating in the blood is about 1 to 2 millimoles/litre of blood. The onset of blood lactate accumulation (OBLA) occurs between 2 and 4 millimoles/litre of blood. In non athletes this point is about 50% to 60% VO2 max and in trained athletes around 70% to 80% VO2 max."

 
Another related question Marcus. What effect does caffeine have on this energy production mechanism?


Well the fact that I need a grande-no-foam-double-whipped-extra-shot-no-fat-latte to start my day at work will have no bearing on this answer......

Yes Caffeine does increases performance in most aspects, that why it is banned by the IOC at certain limits. I have a cup of coffee before I ride and so does de boss man Lance Armstrong, in his documentry, it was said that coffee blocks a neuro chemical ( I forgot whats its called) but its supposed to calm the body. When it is blocked the adrenal glands pour out more adrenaline, so your heart rate increses, your muscles tense up, and glucose is released into your body for a bly of energy.... buzz, caffeine also makes you feel good because it stimulates the release of Dopamine, which is the same chemical that cocaine stimulates. Dopamine is responsible for the feeling of pleasure, when you feel good, you feel confident and that also helps when climbing a facked up hill with an avg gradient of about 10-13% for about an hour on a 15lbs road bike, with plenty man right on your back tire, when yuh done 3hrs into yuh ride already.... But certainly its only an additive, its not going to turn you into a star without de quality hard work.

But you must hydrate because coffee is a diurectic.
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Re: Learn Something...... Lactic Acid is not muscles' foe, It's Fuel
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2006, 09:34:04 PM »
as a swimmer when we had big meets coming up we use to do something called lactic sets
where you do sets back to back very little rest at your maximum to get your body use to lactic acid. We were taught that lactic acid was a poison.

When you finished with them sets you usually vomitted and yuh body does feel like it on fire.

I train with ah man who was tested and they found out he had a delayed reaction to lactic acid. The man did a hard 5000 metre workout and then jump in the pool and break NCAA record.



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