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Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« on: June 04, 2005, 10:52:28 PM »
Scouting Report


Style of play:
Mexican coach Javier Aguirre prefers a traditional 4-4-2 formation (although he has been known to use a 3-5-2) with a defensive midfield. Alberto Garcia Aspe and a core of workmanlike midfielders control possession in midfield by moving the ball around the full width of the pitch and challenging opposing players for 50-50 balls with bruising tackles. Unlike other striking duos, Mexico's forwards are not totally dependent on passes from midfield. Instead, they often drop back to try and win the ball and then create their own scoring chances by making direct runs at opposing defenders.

Strengths:
Coaching -- Javier Aguirre took over a lethargic team that was left for dead during qualifying and brought it back to life. He gets the best out his roster and because of that, players are incredibly loyal to him and are playing with newfound confidence.
Offensive depth -- Cuauhtemoc Blanco is a creative striker who can create scoring chances for himself from anywhere on the pitch. Striker Francisco Palencia is versatile, tireless worker and Jared Borgetti has outstanding aerial skills. This trio of attackers will produce lots of quality scoring chances for Mexico.
Defence -- Mexico's trio of defenders are very solid and supported by a cast of capable reserves. Rafael Marquez is a physical defender who reads the game very well, while Rafael Garcia has good all-around skills.

Weaknesses:
Creativity -- Mexico boasts toughness in midfield, but not a lot of playmaking artistry or vision. Jesus Arellano, the lone creative midfielder, will miss the first two games due to suspension. Without any service from midfield, Mexico's strikers will be left to their own devices to generate scoring opportunities.
Track record -- Mexico has qualified for 11 previous World Cups but have only managed to progress as far as the quarter-finals (both times when it hosted the tournament). Like Spain, Mexico chronically under-achieves on soccer's greatest stage and usually manages to lose games it should win.
Pressure -- It isn't enough for Mexico to win, but its passionate supporters demand that they have to win with style. That is far too much to ask of moderately talented side that will have its hands full just to make it beyond the first round.


Key injuries/omissions: Creative midfielder Jesus Arellano will miss the first two games due to suspension…. Veteran goalkeeper Jorge Campos received a surprise call up into the squad by coach Javier Aguirre…

Prognosis: Mexico is currently ranked number seven by FIFA, a ranking that doesn't seem justified in light of the fact it took Mexico till the final day of qualifying to stamp its passport for Japan and South Korea. While the Mexicans are unquestionably the heavyweights of the CONCACAF region, beating up on nations like Panama, Trinidad & Tobaggo and Canada isn't the same as facing teams the quality of Italy, Croatia and Ecuador. Mexico simply doesn't have the pedigree or the class to seriously challenge for one of the top two places in Group G and will have to settle for a third-place finish above Ecuador.

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Re: Some Advice on Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2005, 10:58:51 PM »
Mexico has the advantage in terms of the home crowd. So it has always been very interesting no matter where we play, whether it be in Azteca or in the United States, it is as though we are playing away. Mexico has a pretty good team, and it has been a great rivalry. And both teams always look forward to playing each other

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MEXICO CITY -- There are a few things to remember when you're making your way to what is arguably the largest city in the world. First, don't drink the water (unless you're a big fan of bathrooms). Second, don't watch the Denzel Washington movie, "Man on Fire." Doing the former will leave you in the bathroom, doing the latter will leave you way too paranoid to enjoy the Mexican capital.   
Rafael Márquez is hungry for revenge against the U.S.
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A note to those of you coming down and are worried about winding up in a bad predicament. The religious holiday has a calm over the city that should hopefully take down the crime meter a few notches. As for worrying about which cab to get into, keep an eye on license plates. If the car's plate doesn't have an S or L at the beginning, look elsewhere no matter how many times the word Taxi is stenciled on the body. The S and L taxis are officially licensed and therefore safe (or at least much safer). I'll admit that I came down somewhat apprehensive (thanks to Denzel's fine acting) but after two days here I can say it doesn't feel any more dangerous than any other big city. (To be fair, I speak Spanish and am not a small man so you might feel differently about this place.)


Random observations from the day. Estadio Azteca is huge and it looks even more huge considering there are no big buildings in the vicinity. Think Godzilla walking through the Japanese countryside, that big. Also, the altitude hasn't had much of an effect on me, not that I've walked more than 30 feet yet. Then again, maybe my Inca bloodlines make me predisposed to handling altitude. The air quality isn't that great here but its not like you should bring along a gas mask. Thursday, 7 p.m. -
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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2005, 11:22:43 PM »
Xenophobia in Mexican soccer                                       SEE ANY SIMILARITIES?
A new soccer rule says 'naturalized' citizens aren't really Mexicans. Does this definition go beyond sports?
By Ken Bensinger | Contributor to The Christian Science Monitor

MEXICO CITY – Sports and love of country are old amigos here. But a new rule in Mexico's pro soccer league - tightening the definition of who is a "Mexican" - takes nationalism to new heights. And, say some observers, may help fuel xenophobia beyond the soccer pitch.
The rule, passed last month by owners at the annual meeting of the Mexican Soccer Federation (FMF), changes existing limits on the number of foreign players permitted on each squad in the 20-team league. Previously, every team was allowed to have five non-Mexican players on its roster and to play up to three of them at at time. Now, teams will be allowed to have six, four of whom can play at once.

CHOOSING THE BEST? Mexico's national soccer team coach, Ricardo la Volpe (right), an Argentine, caused a stir by naming a Brazilian-born naturalized Mexican, to the team that will play in the Athens Olympics. Rafael Maqueze (left) wants more limits of foreigners.
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But while expanding the number of "foreign" players, it also alters who is a Mexican. Starting next month, when the new season begins, naturalized Mexicans will be considered foreigners under the rule.

This rule is the latest example of a growing hard-line attitude here about Mexico's identity. Even as millions of Mexicans are trying to be accepted as citizens in the United States, foreigners - even ones who have become full citizens - are increasingly getting the cold shoulder.

"There are few precedents in Mexico for discrimination against naturalized citizens, simply because there are so few naturalized citizens here," says Adolfo Zapata, a trial lawyer in Mexico City. "Now that immigration is increasing, the [soccer rule] could open the doorway to many such special, discriminatory rules. It's troubling."

Indeed, the number of naturalizations is on the rise here. Between 2001 and 2003, 11,844 people were naturalized, nearly double the total for the previous six years. The majority of those new Mexicans come from Guatemala, China, Cuba, Colombia, and Argentina. Prior to President Vicente Fox and his predecessor, Ernesto Zedillo, Mexico naturalized fewer than 200 people per year.

According to FMF secretary general Decio de Mario, the soccer rule was passed "to try to have a fairer, more equal soccer, so that no team has an advantage in competition." Instead, it seems to allow owners to cut costs, since Mexican (and naturalized Mexican) players tend to earn less than foreigners.

While other Latin American countries, such as Argentina, have been known to incorporate a few foreign players into their leagues, Mexico, more than any other in the region, relies heavily on extranjeros to stock its pro soccer teams, and as such is at the forefront of the sport's debate about how much they should be used.

Naturalized Mexicans frequently complain of ill treatment when dealing with the labyrinth of government bureaucracy. Pablo Szmulewicz, who was born in Argentina but has lived in Mexico for two decades and is naturalized, ran into this when voting last year. "The person at the booth heard my accent, looked at my voting card and told me it must be counterfeit and that I couldn't vote," he says.

In those same elections, a tiny new political group, the Party for a Nationalist Society (PSN), called for closing Mexico's borders and the expulsion of many foreigners, directing much of its rhetoric against the nation's fast-growing Asian immigrant population. In Mexico City elections, PSN candidates received nearly 10,000 votes, a tiny fraction of the total, but still significant for a first-time effort.

As far as expressions of national identity go, soccer touches some of Mexico's deepest nerves. The nation's greatest player, Hugo Sanchez, now a coach in the Mexican league, has consistently criticized the hiring of foreigners. He furiously attacked the coach of the national team that played in the 2002 World Cup for selecting, for the first-time ever, a naturalized Mexican, Argentine-born Gabriel Caballero.

The issue came up again this month, when the current national team coach, Ricardo la Volpe, himself Argentine, named a Brazilian-born naturalized Mexican, Antonio "Sinha" Naelson, to the under-23 team that will play in the Athens Olympics.

Three out of five Mexicans surveyed - in poll conducted by Mexico City daily newspaper Reforma after Sinha's selection - said that naturalized citizens should not be allowed to play on the Mexican national team, because "they rob playing opportunities from Mexican born players."

The sentiment extends to Mexico's players as well, many of whom complain that foreign players restrict their playing time.

"It's embarrassing that so many foreigners are permitted," says Rafael Marquez, a defenseman and member of the Mexican national team, who, ironically, plays professionally for the Barcelona club in the Spanish league. Mr. Marquez, like many, says that teams should be limited to two or three foreigners.

"I hope they realize this hurts Mexican soccer," says Marquez, who adds that he would never apply for Spanish citizenship.

Some Mexican fans put it more succinctly. "The next time we're lamenting another loss by the national team, let's not forget to mention the huge number of foreigners playing in Mexico as a factor," says Fernando Schwartz, who supports the Guadalajara Chivas team, which allows only Mexican-born players on its roster, unique in the league. He argues that foreign players take playing time away from Mexicans, thus diminishing their skills.

Foreign-born players in Mexico say that the case is just the opposite: high-quality foreign players improve the overall level of soccer here.

"I hear stupid ideas that they should lower the number of foreigners, that we're responsible for Mexico's failures, but if they got rid of foreign players, Mexico's soccer would be worse off," says Jose Cardozo, a Paraguayan-born forward for the Toluca team.

Indeed, some of the Mexican pro league's best players are not Mexican: in the season that concluded last month, eight of the top 10 goal scorers, and 14 of the top 20, were foreigners. Fully 80 percent of the goals scored in the league were by foreigners, according to Mexican soccer league statistics.

Critics of the rule say it's part of an emerging trend. Last month, a Mexican federal judge ruled that a naturalized Mexican from Spain with alleged ties to the Basque separatist group could be deported in apparent contradiction to Mexico's Constitution.

The case is being appealed. But some lawyers say that the new soccer rule could help bolster this kind of precedent.

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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2005, 11:33:47 PM »
RON MADER'S UNUSUAL MEXICO LINKS
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Journalist and savvy webmaster Ron Mader sifts through the web to find the most interesting and unusual Mexico-related websites. Ron is the webhost of the popular Planeta.com: Eco Travels in Latin America website -- http://www.planeta.com -- and has written about the internet since the early 1990s.

Subscribe to our free email update service by sending a blank email to mexico-on-the-web-subscribe@egroups.com for reminders and news about upcoming columns.



Soccer teams, fans and sports channels stake out their turf on the ’Net'.
World soccer fans were surprised at Mexico's success at last year's World Cup, but Mexican soccer has been improving over the past decade. Now it boasts a growing contingent of futbol aficionados in Mexico and abroad. The Web provides key information about this popular sport, though the English-language sites seem preoccupied with teams in the United States and Europe. Many of Mexico's teams have their own Spanish-language sites, though of varying quality: If you are looking for the results of the latest game, you might not find what you're looking for. Of course, all things change on the Net, and it's only a matter of time before sites provide audio and video links for fans around the world.

ESPN - Mexico Soccer
http://204.202.129.27/soccer/standings/mexico/index.html
*** (out of five *)

Sports media titan ESPN rarely covers soccer on its flagship cable channel, and shows clips from Mexican games only when Mexico plays the United States. So it's a pleasant surprise to discover that this page exists at all. It provides a one-stop review of the latest Mexican scores and standings. Sure, I wish the site had links to individual teams or information about specific games, but this is a great step forward for the U.S. channel that claims to be "the global leader in sports."
Email contact: espn.com@espn.com

Pagina Azteca
http://www.mexred.com.mx/Paginazteca/
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"Viva la pasion de futbol!" screams the title on each page of this jazzy Spanish-language site created by Pedro Pineda. Look for previews of games, tournaments, latest scores and even an interactive survey on the home page. This feature—becoming more common on high-tech sites is fun if you speak Spanish and follow the Mexican league. While the site’s visual appeal is undeniable—it is obviously the product of the passion it speaks of—it could offer more content about specific games.
Email contact: descubre@mexred.net.mx

Futbol Mundial – Mexico
http://www.futbolmundial.com.mx/
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The Spanish-language page is a little slow loading, but it contains an excellent collection of news and background about Mexican soccer(http://www.futbolmundial.com.mx/home2.html). Neither the league schedule nor the results page have direct links to individual teams, though related links are found on a separate page (http://www.futbolmundial.com.mx/home7.html). One major disappointment is the section labeled "English News"(http://www.futbolmundial.com.mx/englishnews.html): Mexico isn’t covered, only the traditional European powerhouses. Helpful is the Television Schedule:(http://www.futbolmundial.com.mx/home9.html).
Email contact: mayorga@futbolmundial.com.mx
Mexican soccer for dummies
http://members.spree.com/sip/nuevoleon/futbol.htm
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I would have loved to have given a higher ranking to this terrific 15-minute guide to Mexican futbol basics, but this page hasn't been updated for almost a year (perhaps they are waiting for Necaxa to win another championship). Nonetheless, this is the best starting place for anyone who wants to understand why Mexicans love this sport. The page explains the classic rivalries and profiles Mexico's best players. The style of this page is simple and elegant. The only thing missing is a contact address to compliment the author of this guide and ask that it be kept up-to-date.

Other recommended websites include
Mexico's National Team or Seleccion Mexicana: http://www.seleccionmexicana.com.mx;
the Historia de FutbolMexicano (History of Mexican Soccer): http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/2936/fmf.html;
the soccer-specific pages of Sportsya: http://www.sportsya.com/soccer/;
and About.com: http://worldsoccer.about.com/.
Sidebar: FutbolTeams
Mexican soccer teams are just coming online with timely information. You'll find a mix of official and unofficial sites created by the teams and their fans. Here's a sampling of individual Mexican teams on the Net:

America: http://www.televisa.com.mx/america/index.asp
Chivas: http://chivas.com.mx/
Cruz Azul: http://www.cruz-azul.com.mx/
Club Atlas de Guadalajara: http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/8134
Tiburones Rojos de Veracruz: http://tiburon.intercenter.com.mx/
Necaxa: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/1388/index.html
Santos Laguna: http://www.bbslaguna.com.mx/Santos/

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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2005, 11:39:04 PM »
Players had blood tests, were given iron pills to acclimatize and were told to drink more fluids and consume more carbohydrates. Barrieu said a person wouldn't get enough iron unless "you have 3,000 grapes or five pounds of spinach."
It takes a while to adjust.

"The European guys would go through the same phase as the MLS guys did the week before," he said. "They start to feel the shortness of breath, get used to it and know how to deal with it. In terms of our physiological effects, it's too short of a time. But it makes a big difference from a mental perspective."

Outside Mexico, the United States has dominated its rival in recent years, going 6-0-1 since the 1999 Confederations Cup, including a 2-0 win in the second round of the 2002 World Cup. The Americans, tied for 10th in the world ranking, are coming off a 2-1 win at Trinidad and Tobago in the opener of the final round of qualifying.

"Azteca is a great home-field advantage, one of the most lopsided home-field advantages in the world," Arena said. "You can liken it to La Paz for the Bolivian team, and other venues that are played in altitude."

Extra oxygen will be available for players, both before the game and at halftime.

"The first two days were fine. The third day and fourth days were more difficult from a breathing perspective, but I almost feel like I got over the hump," Donovan said. "Obviously, all those things are physical factors, but I firmly believe mental strength can overcome those obstacles. I think we're well enough acclimated that we should be fine."
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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2005, 08:54:15 AM »
yeah we hadda geh sum outa that game
buh it will be tough

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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2005, 09:05:35 AM »
By Peter Goldstein (planetworldcup.com)
February 2, 2005

With the possible exception of T&T, Mexico's starting lineup is the hardest to figure. They've got the deepest squad in the region, and with no pressure in the semis, Ricardo LaVolpe tried out a lot of personnel. Also, he tends to prefer versatile players who can contribute in a couple of different spots on the field. And the side will vary depending on whether he goes with a 3-4-3, as in the Copa America, or a 3-5-2, as in most of the qualifiers. So we can't exactly say who'll start where, but we'll try to give you a sense of the options.

One place where there's no question is at keeper, where Oswaldo Sánchez is the undisputed number one. In his prime at 31, he might be the best pure shot-stopper in the region, and although he can be erratic on crosses, there's no doubt he's the star. Unfortunately, a shoulder injury will keep him out of the opener against Costa Rica. Right now it looks as if Oscar "Conejo" Pérez, who played well at the 2002 WC, will get the call. Pérez isn't quite the player he was four years ago, but can still make the key save, and has the experience for a big game like this.

The defensive star is, of course, Rafael Márquez of Barcelona. Strong, quick, intelligent, good in the air--you name it, he can do it. The only question is whether he'll play in the middle of the back line or at defensive midfield. Much will depend on the form of defensive midfielder Gerrardo Torrado, who was on the bench at Sevilla but is now getting time at Racing Santander. He's a streaky player, but is a hard tackler and has a powerful shot, and if in form should be in the starting eleven. If Márquez goes to the midfield, the middle man in the back will probably be Hugo Sánchez Guerrero, a quick and intelligent sweeper type. (We use the "Guerrero" just to be clear: Hugo Sánchez Guerrero is the Hugo Sánchez that plays defense for Tigres and should be on the roster for the qualifiers; Hugo Sánchez Márquez is the Hugo Sánchez that was a striker for Real Madrid and now coaches Pumas, and wants to slit LaVolpe's throat, bury him, and dance on his grave.)

There are several choices for the other defenders. On the left side, it's between Carlos Salcido and Gonzalo Pineda. Salcido is big and mobile, a good marker, technically only fair, but useful on long passes. Pineda is the more attacking option, quicker and better on the ball, not as reliable on defense. Candidates on the right include Francisco "El Maza" Rodriguez, tall and powerful, Ricardo Osorio, quick and technical, and veteran Salvador Carmona, an all-rounder who excelled at the 2002 WC. (If you want to get an idea of what he can do on defense, get a hold of a tape of the game against Italy.) Both Osorio and Carmona can play at wingback if necessary, and maybe Pineda can too.

The midfield also has lots of options. As noted, Márquez or Torrado will anchor. Pavel Pardo has been around as long as Quetzalcoatl, but he's still only 28, and a good linkman. He's slow, but a smart passer, particularly good at rotating the ball from wing to wing, and famous for his free kicks. Brazilian-born Antonio Naelson, known as "Sinha," appears to be over the naturalization controversy; he's quick and supple, and the best pure playmaker on the team. Luís Pérez is a box-to-box midfielder, very aggressive, but his technique isn't quite star quality. Rafael Garcia, another 2002 veteran, is a left-footed defensive type.

The left wingback spot appears to belong to Jaime Lozano. He's a typical Pumas player: nothing fancy, but he does everything right, and in the qualifiers he showed an unexpected scoring touch. On the right, besides Osorio and Carmona, there's Hector "Pity" Altamirano, big, long-striding, physical, a bit wild at times, a spectacular free-kick man. A more all-out attacking option is young and pacy winger Alberto Medina.

The shape of the attack is still unclear. Jesus Arellano, formerly a pure right winger, has recently played as attacking midfielder or even withdrawn forward. He's late in his career, a bit inconsistent, but can still dazzle with his dribbling and passing, and occasionally put the ball in the net. Then of course there's Cuauhtémoc Blanco; he too is on his last hurrah, but when not confined in a mental home is the most creative player in the region. He figures to get a free role partnering a central striker. At the moment both Arellano and Blanco are a little short of full fitness, and again that's where Medina might come in.

Up front is a question mark. If LaVolpe's teams have a weakness, it's that they lack contundencia, the ability to strike when you get the chance. There are few natural finishers on the squad. At the moment, Jared Borgetti still holds the centerforward spot. For years he's been a classic number 9, elegant, slow, excellent in the air, but he's aging now, and although he devours minnows he might not be good enough against stronger competition. The heir apparent is fan favorite Francisco "Kikin" Fonseca, a 90-minute two-way take-no-prisoners tough guy who has the true predator's instincts. But can he find space against top-level marking? Another candidate is Adolfo "El Bofo" Bautista, who's had injury problems, but at his best is quick, can run at his man, and finish.

As we say, LaVolpe has so many options we'll just have to wait and see how they line up. It's a good team, and should have no problem qualifying. But in Mexico, qualifying isn't enough: you have to play well, score goals, beat the USA, finish top of the table, find a cure for cancer, and establish world peace. Hugo Sánchez has publicly claimed he'll be the coach by the time they get to the World Cup, and a lot of fans would like to see it happen. A slow start, and LaVolpe will probably find himself back on the beach--and just as probably grateful for the rest.
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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2005, 11:03:26 AM »
Tallman,
ah hope the people in the know  are ready with all this information you have here and they  have the TNT Warriors ready with a game plan. There is a renewed confidence among the players and the fans.

Sometimes yuh does have tuh worry about executing  your defensive and offensive plans hoping like hell that  they are good enough to stop the opositions.

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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2005, 11:18:19 AM »
They are definitely scouting us.
Unless those were TV6 cameras that were taping the game then they had Spanish Media down there.
Even if it was TV6 they probably got the whole game.

We have access to their game as well, is just a matter of moving fast to get it to their technical team.

I think Mexico might have about two injuries...marquez being one because that game was rough in the end.

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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2005, 01:52:53 PM »
I think this is the most likely spot to find somebody who wilin to go across the border to check out the match. i went across to ciudad juarez once and the vibe was just like something bad about to happen. If anybody want a free ride to monterry from anywhere along I-10 9between phoenix and san antonio) and you could speak spanish well, I go pick yuh up...jus email me

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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2005, 02:32:06 PM »
that article on the xenophobia in Mexico is something else.

Mexicans discriminating against foreigners and want to deny them work... the IRONY  ???

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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2005, 04:23:45 PM »
What is the purrpose of all this. A scouting report from way back (2001), different coach players etc.
Also Mexico has an advantage other than Altitude. The bigger adaptation is actually smog, it stinks, makes youre eyes run water and is hard to breath. also when they train at altitude and move to sea level, they increase their red blood cells. Equal to blood doping, they run like hell. Mexico are always tough at home outside of Mexico not really the same.
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Re: Scouting report / Preparing for Mexico
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2005, 04:34:47 PM »
 Observer:

Each team has certain tendencies ; you look at historical habits  to see how a team has evolved and what changes they have undergone before you form an opinion as to how that team is playing.
Given the domination o fMexico in this region, it is interesting to get to know as much about them as possible. It is just my opinion.

 

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