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Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« on: March 17, 2005, 04:07:07 AM »
Britain or Robust.
Opinion By: Lasana Liburd - T&T Express.


Britain's memory of Trinidad and Tobago will always be, first and foremost, the toothy grin of former Manchester United star Dwight Yorke, who, at present, is the seventh highest English Premier League scorer of all time.
Likewise, Trinidad and Tobago's perception of the UK leagues was forever altered by Yorke's phenomenal success at football's richest club.
It is the impossible yardstick that measures Stern John, Kenwyne Jones and the future wave of exports.
As gifted as Yorke is, it is uncertain whether even he could manage it given a second try. His healthy goal returns were no fluke; but his rise was.
There is something asymmetrical about Yorke and England. Something that explains why Yorke, at 33 and with 122 Premiership goals, is surplus to requirements at the top level while elder and less talented or prolific marksmen such as West Brom's Kevin Campbell, 35, are still considered key players.
Last summer, Graeme Souness dumped his two experienced 33-year-old strikers from Blackburn Rovers. Andy Cole is now the Fulham captain. Yorke is virtually a memory at Birmingham City where he can no longer even claim a spot on the substitutes' bench.
It is not that Yorke has faded faster. Rather, he was paddling upstream from the start.
Remember when ITV and BBC swooned over his charming smile as he plundered goals for United? They failed to mention that former Aston Villa manager "Big" Ron Atkinson was so sick at the sight of Yorke's gums that he ordered teammate Ugo Ehiogu to punch him at training sessions to "toughen him up".
Reporters also forget to mention the odds stacked against Yorke from the offset at Manchester United, partly because they put them there in the first place. He was considered a certain flop even before his debut. Yorke, they opined, just did not have the quality or temperament to survive at such a big club.
The reservations were not restricted to outside the club either. United manager Sir Alex Ferguson endured a whispering campaign started by his own assistant, Brian Kidd, that the esteemed boss was off his rocker.
Kidd felt that Ferguson would get better value from rugged Wales and Celtic striker John Hartson. The same Hartson who almost decapitated Israeli playmaker Eyal Berkovic in a pick-up match-and that was his teammate!
I was drilled once on the impressive composure of Trinidad and Tobago and Portsmouth goalkeeper Shaka Hislop by "Pompey" fans, who were certain they knew his secret and sought confirmation.
"He takes a little puff, don't he mate?" asked one supporter, who motioned as though drawing from an imaginary cigarette. Only he was clearly referring to something stronger than Benson and Hedges.
I denied the suggestion politely but firmly. I could tell that they were unconvinced.
Britain's perception of the Caribbean, at least at ground level, has not changed much over the decades. Nice blokes, they say with a smile but wistful nod. It is a double-edged compliment. Britain likes mean players.
I was introduced to an English lower league club CEO recently and immediately asked about some Trinidad and Tobago players his squad hosted for trials.
"They were okay," he said, pulling a face. "But they need some unngh!"
I thought of some local players who might have the desired personality traits. There was CL Financial San Juan Jabloteh's combative midfielder Travis Mulraine, who I am convinced, can earn a good living in Britain, as well as his club teammate and powerful national defender Keyeno Thomas. Conrad Smith could pull it off as well because of his versatility and ambition. Maybe Defence Force midfielder Kurt Williams too, if he secured a work permit.
But, with all due respect, these are not Trinidad and Tobago's most gifted players, are they?
In Britain, football is played with the heart first and legs second. Perhaps that explains why Yorke has not quite received the respect he deserves and John never will-not in this country.
Mulraine and Thomas have the right blend of skill, strength and sass to make a mark in the UK and are good assets for any coach. But, to be honest, I prefer the artistry of Nigel Pierre, Kerry Baptiste, Silvio Spann and Kerwyn "Hardest" Jemmott.
God forbid that any agent tries to turn any of that latter bunch into British-styled players.
I have seen little of Caledonia Fire midfielder Densil Theobold over the past two years but I shuddered at the news that he was set for trials at Queen's Park Rangers before an injury. QPR is to football what heavy metal is to music; a lot of angry noise and collisions with little perceivable talent. I saw them play in January and wondered whether their manager recruited at karate exhibitions or maybe from tug-of-war contests.
Results show that QPR's style of play is not altogether unsuccessful and they might even sneak a League Championship Play-off spot. But it escapes me why any agent would want to send a Trinidad and Tobago player there.
The obsession with British football, in my opinion, is doing our country's self-esteem more harm than good. The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) would benefit greatly from a few well-placed European-based agents.
I would suggest Holland straightaway although I am biased since it is the only country I visited, to date, on Europe's mainland.
But Holland's preference for technical skills over less aesthetic qualities would surely be more homely to T&T's players. There is also a surfeit of Caribbean success stories from Ruud Gullit and Frank Rijkaard to Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and Clarence Seedorf.
The lifestyle too is slower and more laidback. It is colder but not as gloomy and most Dutch persons speak English.
Racial integration also appears better there than Britain and certainly dwarves Spain, where ignoramuses still embarrass themselves by making monkey noises at their league's finest and best paid players.
It is not easy to flourish in an alien culture. There is the strange weather and food, different ideas about tackling and skill as well as the abundance of xenophobes.
Trinidad and Tobago has held her own nicely. To date, the "Land of the Hummingbird" can boast of 16 players who play professionally in the UK-excluding the players who kicked their first ball in England.
None has done better than Yorke while Hislop, John, Russell Latapy, Clint Marcelle and Marvin Andrews, to name a few, enjoyed successes or more fulfilling careers than many of their British counterparts.
A word to the future stars, though. There is professional life outside Britain.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2005, 12:34:12 PM by Tallman »
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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 12:20:33 PM »
As Caribbean nations we need to develop a sense of passion, pride, and self esteem about our perchance for football. We have the talent, we have the facilities and we have the knowledge. So why do we always have to rely on foreign coaches, and techniques to elevate our level and to bring a sense of salvation to our game?

I say we spend more time elevating the status, training and the economics for our players. We should look at forming a Caribbean Professional Football League (C.P.F.L.) Let's develop some regional rivalry and expand the skill base in our respective nations within the region.

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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2005, 02:34:17 PM »
Very good article by Lisana.  He finally seems to be developing into more of a "journalist" and less of a "reporter".  Great job there. 

Regarding the article, I believe that alot of the Caribbean's love affair with the English league has to do with the fact that many in the younger generation were brought up watching the great decade of the 80s in England.  The famous Liverpool with John Barnes, Ian Rush and Peter Beardsley versus Everton.  Every Sunday I remember sitting in the living room waiting for "ROAD TO WEMBLY" to come on.  As a matter of fact, the road we used to play small goal in in my village had the words "Wembley Stadium" painted on it crudely as we considered that the biggest ground in the world.

Football-wise, however, I am not sure that English football is the best place for the majority of our players.  Look at Stern for example.  He could be the top scorer all he wants, if Clinton Morrisson is running around the field like a mad man chasing shadows and pelting his body around, the gaffer will prefer him to Stern.  The English admire "grit" and determination, and scoff at people and players that make the game look effortless.

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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2005, 07:21:59 PM »

I now watching the Mexican league...they have Claudio Lopez playing and nuff sponsorship.

I always thought economics determined where our players went and England probably pays the most.

But the skill level in the Mexican league to me is higher than the EPL.  It strange that Trinis even like to watch the EPL at all.  Arsenal might be one of the few teams that worth watching but that depends on your taste.

I don't think many of our players could manage in mexico though cuz they would have to raise their game in a different way so maybe just the cream could manage skills wise.  In the UK is mostly about working harder.

Wonder if Clayton Ince agent would ever consider sending him Mex cuz Latin America not known for their keepers so he could probably do well.

And money wise for the Mexican league...dem stadiums real real big but is be real full.  It have all kinda big name sponsors...Corona, Southwest, Lotto, Miller.  I cah see Scottish teams or English 1st division getting that kinda money.  The Mexican league tapping into the US market(Spanish stations) and must be raking in much more than MLS with advertising.

Is this league way too underated or is just me?

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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2005, 10:03:11 PM »
Lasana always was a thoughtful fella...what yuh mean less of a reporter and more of a journalist?  De man have talent fuh days..what yuh read was an opinion/editorial piece.

Besides what is de difference between ah reporter and ah journalist as it relates to newspapers?

















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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2005, 09:43:49 AM »

I now watching the Mexican league...they have Claudio Lopez playing and nuff sponsorship.

I always thought economics determined where our players went and England probably pays the most.

But the skill level in the Mexican league to me is higher than the EPL.  It strange that Trinis even like to watch the EPL at all.  Arsenal might be one of the few teams that worth watching but that depends on your taste.

I don't think many of our players could manage in mexico though cuz they would have to raise their game in a different way so maybe just the cream could manage skills wise.  In the UK is mostly about working harder.

Wonder if Clayton Ince agent would ever consider sending him Mex cuz Latin America not known for their keepers so he could probably do well.

And money wise for the Mexican league...dem stadiums real real big but is be real full.  It have all kinda big name sponsors...Corona, Southwest, Lotto, Miller.  I cah see Scottish teams or English 1st division getting that kinda money.  The Mexican league tapping into the US market(Spanish stations) and must be raking in much more than MLS with advertising.

Is this league way too underated or is just me?

the Mexican League is the most professional in the region of CONCACAF and South America. Their facilities for training and games are first class. They have well structured youth programs.  Players are well paid and paid on time. The League has great attendance. Plus the standard of football is very good.


The bigger question that any reporter should have asked, is are the other leagues interested in our players.
After all we have no one in Mexico, France,  Holland or Belgium (the so called smaller leagues of Europe). What happened to the Portugal pipe line???
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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2005, 02:46:40 PM »
Why are so many T&T players in the UK? Its pretty simple to me!  If you can find a cheap source of players that do an adequate job and you have the chance of finding the occasional jem...would'nt you keep delving? The UK tried it first...other countries already have their own proven sources.

The French do it in French speaking Africa, the Dutch did it (till recently) in Surinam, The Greek league does it with its ex-Sovietblock neighbours. Notice, that there are'nt many Trini's in the Premiership, but lots were the money is more scarce i.e. Scotland and the lower leagues. Mexican Teams prefer Spanish speaking players, also if you fellas haven't noticed by now...they don't rate T&T players very highly. Why gamble on T&T players who cyah even speak spanish when they have 100's of thousands of Spanish speaking players all around them to chose from. Why no T&T players in other leagues? Simple again, they already have there own proven pools of cheap foreign Talent to draw from. If you want T&T players to go to other leagues, they first have to take a gamble like Spann and then the player must be a bit successful. Then things might change.

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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2005, 05:41:35 PM »
Why are so many T&T players in the UK? Its pretty simple to me!  If you can find a cheap source of players that do an adequate job and you have the chance of finding the occasional jem...would'nt you keep delving? The UK tried it first...other countries already have their own proven sources.

Well Rodney, in some aspects  your are right. We do provide a cheap source of labour (which seems  like exploitation) and there is the possibility that there may be a diamond in the rough. On the other hand, we too do have a professional league, if only in name but we do have  nationals from different countries (including Brazil). You may say that these  players are not of a certain calibre as in the English Priemership. Well  before we begin to quantify and qualify players based on the professional leagues they play in, let's just be thankful we have a system which promotes the game to another level.
 How would one compare the Spanish league to the German Bundagelegisa? or the French league to the Italian? I would sufice to say that if Trinidad paid the type of dollars to professionals as soem of the other leagues do, we too maybe able to sustain our players at home. The economics of those well established leagues in Europe gives them the competitive edge over eeven the MLS in the U.S.A.

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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2005, 11:06:05 PM »
thank you Rodney.

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2005, 06:56:53 AM »
In my very first posting "Trinidad vs USA - More of the same" I pointed out that sending our players to England, Wales, USA, Scotland and Asia was having no positive effect on our football.  And I agree with the author of the article that there are other options.  I would point out again though that Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Mexico are better options for our young talent to begin theie carrers.  Some would make the money arguement, but I guarantee the money will come in abundance if you are a well deveoloped player with a winning culture and attitude.

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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2005, 08:22:42 PM »
As of now I think we have no players(capped) attached to EPL teams.
First time in real years.
Maybe that might change with Shaka still looking around.

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Re: Is T&T's UK obsession good for its players?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2005, 12:52:02 PM »
What about players from the UK playing in T&T. Is Aaron Black still at W-Connection? Does anybody know if he's staying there or if there is interest from any other clubs? I'm just curious.

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