Author Topic: Germany 2006: The final ranking (Warriors 27th). (Read 10467 times)

sin · « **on:** July 19, 2006, 03:54:29 PM »

T&T finish 27 in 2006 world cup.
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Out of the 32 nations that participated in the World Cup, Trinidad and Tobago ranked 27, according to a release of ranking released by FIFA recently.

Germany 2006: The final ranking.

Italy, France, Germany and Portugal. After the high drama of the 2006 FIFA World Cup™ Final in Berlin's Olympiastadion between the Azzurri and Les Bleus, and the top-class match for third place between the host nation and Luiz Felipe Scolari’s Portugal, it does not take a genius to recall the top four sides at this summer’s tournament in Germany. But what about those nations who failed to make it into this very select group?
The same criteria used to separate the sides in the group phase at Germany 2006 were used to produce a definitive ranking of every team involved. These were: the number of points obtained; total goal difference; number of goals scored.
It is for this very reason that Luis Aragones's flamboyant Spain side, who failed to make it past the Round of 16, have taken ninth place in the overall tournament classification. La Roja picked up nine points from their group matches, and ended their stay in Germany with a overall goal difference of +5, having scored nine and conceded four. The established criteria have been unable to separate a number of particularly well-matched teams. These include the USA and Iran, who are tied in 25th place.
The results obtained in Germany 2006 have been incorporated into the all-time FIFA World Cup ranking. This ranking can be used to compare the records of every team to have taken part in the greatest competition in world football. The all-time ranking appears in the usual league table format, with points allocated in the same way (three points for a win, one point for a draw and none for a defeat).
The rankings from this summer’s tournament have given rise to a number of interesting FIFA World Cup facts. Despite their four world titles, a number only bettered by five-time winners Brazil, Italy are only third in the all-time standings. Beating them to second place are Germany, whose seven matches on home soil brought them level with Brazil's record of 92 matches played at FIFA World Cup finals.

Germany 2006 ranking/ All-time FIFA World Cup™ ranking in brackets

1- Italy (3)
2- France (6)
3- Germany (2)
4- Portugal (20)
5- Brazil (1)
6- Argentina (4)
7- England (5)
8- Ukraine (46)
9- Spain (7)
10- Switzerland (22)
11- Netherlands (9)
12- Ecuador (40)
13- Ghana (49)
14- Sweden [8]
15- Mexico (15)
16- Australia (52)
17- Korea Republic (30)
18- Paraguay (24)
19- Côte d'Ivoire (56)
20- Czech Republic (16)
21- Poland (13)
22- Croatia (27)
23- Angola (59)
24- Tunisia (48)
25- USA (26)
25- Iran (53)
27- Trinidad and Tobago (63)
28- Japan (44)
28- Saudi Arabia (45)
30- Togo (68)
31- Costa Rica (38)
32- Serbia and Montenegro (11)

Lower St. John · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2006, 04:12:16 PM »

Ah wonder what we ranking woulda been if we did score a goal (same results: a draw and 2 losses).

Blessings

berris · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2006, 04:14:39 PM »

This is the WC order of finish ...wha rankings they talking bout? this eh no
world rankings just and order of finish for the WC.

FF · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2006, 04:16:56 PM »

Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 04:14:39 PM

This is the WC order of finish ...wha rankings they talking bout? this eh no
world rankings just and order of finish for the WC.

Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking??? (order of finish) ...

berris · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2006, 04:43:05 PM »

Quote from: FF on July 19, 2006, 04:16:56 PM

Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 04:14:39 PM
This is the WC order of finish ...wha rankings they talking bout? this eh no
world rankings just and order of finish for the WC.

Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking??? (order of finish) ...

ok genius what exactly is WC rankings ?there is no such thing there is an order of finish in de WC but what is a WC ranking ? Is Italy 'ranked' higher than Brazil ? but last time I checked in the Fifa world rankings Brazil was #1. So they cud call it whatever they want, it is not a ranking but an order of finish,but hey I cud understand why you can't comprehend that becuz after all 'Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking'' .......no where sah, no where!!!

Toppa · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2006, 04:50:57 PM »

Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 04:43:05 PM

Quote from: FF on July 19, 2006, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 04:14:39 PM
This is the WC order of finish ...wha rankings they talking bout? this eh no
world rankings just and order of finish for the WC.

Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking??? (order of finish) ...

ok genius what exactly is WC rankings ?there is no such thing there is an order of finish in de WC but what is a WC ranking ? Is Italy 'ranked' higher than Brazil ? but last time I checked in the Fifa world rankings Brazil was #1. So they cud call it whatever they want, it is not a ranking but an order of finish,but hey I cud understand why you can't comprehend that becuz after all 'Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking'' .......no where sah, no where!!!

I'm not a football pundit but what I gather from the list is that they ranked the teams in this yr's World Cup, like 1st, 2nd and 3rd and then in brackets they have their over-all World Cup ranking, like their World Cup performance history. Yuh know? So that's why even though Brazil finished 5th this time, they're still number 1 over-all because they're the five-time champions.

jub02 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:03:39 PM »

But how is ukraine so high..it just seem weird

kicker · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:38:07 PM »

Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 04:43:05 PM

Quote from: FF on July 19, 2006, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 04:14:39 PM
This is the WC order of finish ...wha rankings they talking bout? this eh no
world rankings just and order of finish for the WC.

Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking??? (order of finish) ...

ok genius what exactly is WC rankings ?there is no such thing there is an order of finish in de WC but what is a WC ranking ? Is Italy 'ranked' higher than Brazil ? but last time I checked in the Fifa world rankings Brazil was #1. So they cud call it whatever they want, it is not a ranking but an order of finish,but hey I cud understand why you can't comprehend that becuz after all 'Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking'' .......no where sah, no where!!!

Berris, it's obvious that the terms "WC 2006 ranking " and "WC 2006 order of finish" are being used interchangeably....and yes they are independent from the FIFA World Rankings....not sure what the fuss is about....no where did they say it was a World Ranking, they referred to it as a Germany 2006 ranking....

Midknight · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:47:36 PM »

Quote from: jub02 on July 19, 2006, 05:03:39 PM

But how is ukraine so high..it just seem weird

because they made the quarter finals - by definition, last 8

big dawg · « **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:49:13 PM »

What do I gather from this ?.... yuh get 6 from Argentina... yuh ending up last

Midknight · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:50:21 PM »

Quote from: Lower St. John on July 19, 2006, 04:12:16 PM

Ah wonder what we ranking woulda been if we did score a goal (same results: a draw and 2 losses).

Blessings

we would've been 25th, in front of the US and iran...

StoreBayLimer · « **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2006, 07:24:22 PM »

Quote from: Midknight on July 19, 2006, 05:50:21 PM

Quote from: Lower St. John on July 19, 2006, 04:12:16 PM
Ah wonder what we ranking woulda been if we did score a goal (same results: a draw and 2 losses).

Blessings
we would've been 25th, in front of the US and iran...

Actually we would have been tied for 24th with Tunisia if we had scored 1 goal and still had 1 draw and 2 losses.
Typically, FIFA determines the ranking as follows:
1. Stage reached.
2. Points earned. 3 for a win, including in extra time; 1 for a draw, including a game that was decided in penalties; 0 for a loss, including in extra time.
3. Goal difference. Includes knockout play.
4. Goals scored. Includes knockout play.

SUPA · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2006, 08:16:35 PM »

All dat f/;'[=-g s/';[=t Bruce Arena talk bout Australia, and look wey dey is tuh USA, and T&T just 2 spots behind USA. YUH eh see he want about nine planass in he ?

Midknight · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2006, 08:22:37 PM »

Quote from: StoreBayLimer on July 19, 2006, 07:24:22 PM

Quote from: Midknight on July 19, 2006, 05:50:21 PM
Quote from: Lower St. John on July 19, 2006, 04:12:16 PM
Ah wonder what we ranking woulda been if we did score a goal (same results: a draw and 2 losses).

Blessings
we would've been 25th, in front of the US and iran...

Actually we would have been tied for 24th with Tunisia if we had scored 1 goal and still had 1 draw and 2 losses.
Typically, FIFA determines the ranking as follows:
1. Stage reached.
2. Points earned. 3 for a win, including in extra time; 1 for a draw, including a game that was decided in penalties; 0 for a loss, including in extra time.
3. Goal difference. Includes knockout play.
4. Goals scored. Includes knockout play.

Don't mean to nitpick, but you're wrong, I believe storebay

Quote

22.Croatia 1R 3 0 2 1 2- 3 2
23.Angola 1R 3 0 2 1 1- 2 2
24.Tunisia 1R 3 0 1 2 3- 6 1
25.Iran 1R 3 0 1 2 2- 6 1
United States 1R 3 0 1 2 2- 6 1
27.TNT 1R 3 0 1 2 0- 4 1
28.Japan 1R 3 0 1 2 2- 7 1
Saudi Arabia 1R 3 0 1 2 2- 7 1

You'll notice that even though we have the same goal difference as Iran and the US they were both ranked ahead of us because they had more goals scored.
So in the same way even with a goal difference of -3 (1-4) we'd still be behind Tunisia (3-6)

Incidentally if we had scored the goal against Paraguay their ranking would've dropeed from 18 to 21. Against any of the other teams however, it wouldn't have changed anything...

berris · « **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2006, 08:47:48 PM »

Quote from: kicker on July 19, 2006, 05:38:07 PM

Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 04:43:05 PM
Quote from: FF on July 19, 2006, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 04:14:39 PM
This is the WC order of finish ...wha rankings they talking bout? this eh no
world rankings just and order of finish for the WC.

Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking??? (order of finish) ...

ok genius what exactly is WC rankings ?there is no such thing there is an order of finish in de WC but what is a WC ranking ? Is Italy 'ranked' higher than Brazil ? but last time I checked in the Fifa world rankings Brazil was #1. So they cud call it whatever they want, it is not a ranking but an order of finish,but hey I cud understand why you can't comprehend that becuz after all 'Where in this article do you see them saying this is anything other than a World Cup ranking'' .......no where sah, no where!!!

Berris, it's obvious that the terms "WC 2006 ranking " and "WC 2006 order of finish" are being used interchangeably....and yes they are independent from the FIFA World Rankings....not sure what the fuss is about....no where did they say it was a World Ranking, they referred to it as a Germany 2006 ranking....

Kicker, I could be wrong but the headline say '' T&T finish 27th in 2006 world cup.'' To me that sound like ah order of finish,I agree they also say ''Trinidad and Tobago ranked 27th '' ...but what is the difference and shouldn't it be just an order of finish 1 thru 32 ? ...is no fuss really I just eh see de significance of it being ah ranking.....show me de light nah dread..

kicker · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:16:36 AM »

Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 08:47:48 PM

Kicker, I could be wrong but the headline say '' T&T finish 27th in 2006 world cup.'' To me that sound like ah order of finish,I agree they also say ''Trinidad and Tobago ranked 27th '' ...but what is the difference and shouldn't it be just an order of finish 1 thru 32 ? ...is no fuss really I just eh see de significance of it being ah ranking.....show me de light nah dread..

haha..yeah B I hear yuh, but yuh hadda put it in context...they didn't just say "Trinidad & Tobago ranked 27th", they said "of the 32 nations that competed in the world cup, Trinidad ranked 27th".......so the preface is what makes the difference....so in this case, order of finish & and a ranking amongst the WC participants is the same thing......let there be light (I hope

)

cheers

zandolie63 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:59:59 AM »

Yuh right RMA, I mistake it, ah mus' be sleepy is almost midnight here in Guam oui!! As a country T&T need tuh concentrate on the youth U-11 through U-15 to capitalize on those with the talent. We cyah keep sendin' thirtysomethings wee need tuh send some twentysomethings tuh de WorldCup stage. We had one of the oldest squads in the tournament. There is a lot of T&Ttalent in the youth clubs in the US, I know of two very talented kids one 11 and one 10 wid loads of skill even at their age, US born to Trini parents and well could play fuh de TnT national side in 2014 and beyond

Rastaman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:12:28 AM »

Quote from: zandolie63 on July 20, 2006, 07:59:59 AM

Yuh right RMA, I mistake it, ah mus' be sleepy is almost midnight here in Guam oui!! As a country T&T need tuh concentrate on the youth U-11 through U-15 to capitalize on those with the talent. We cyah keep sendin' thirtysomethings wee need tuh send some twentysomethings tuh de WorldCup stage. We had one of the oldest squads in the tournament. There is a lot of T&Ttalent in the youth clubs in the US, I know of two very talented kids one 11 and one 10 wid loads of skill even at their age, US born to Trini parents and well could play fuh de TnT national side in 2014 and beyond

Tell that to France....

You send the best players and at this time our young players do not have the experience.

zandolie63 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:22:33 AM »

Ras', true. If we can develop youth players, pick the best of the bunch and establish a pipeline, like a farm team to develop and expose the players to other team,styles of play (friendlies and the like) the football in T&T will flourish. One by-product of our WC appearance is the push to develop the local youth program to ages U-13 and lower. Our ranking in the WC finish is 27th but that is not of any significance. The ranking of 63rd is the one that we need tuh look at and develop an approach to better that mark, and the only way tuh do that is tuh score goals and win games at the round of 16 in 2010.

andre samuel · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:52:03 AM »

what is the issue? ranking? order of merit? everyone should know what it means because they do it at every world cup!!

i remember jamaica placing 21st or 24th at the 1998 world cup!! and the USA coming last..........lol

ah love it!!

Green Beret · « **Reply #20 on:** July 20, 2006, 09:22:07 AM »

Quote from: andre samuel on July 20, 2006, 08:52:03 AM

what is the issue? ranking? order of merit? everyone should know what it means because they do it at every world cup!!

i remember jamaica placing 21st or 24th at the 1998 world cup!! and the USA coming last..........lol

ah love it!!

I remember in 90, the only Trini or Jamaican presence were the 5 or 6 people in the stands, but the US, despite finishing LAST was in the 32. (Ah know dat is a touchy topic eh - de 90 WC)

I remember too, in 94, neither Trini or Jamaica were in the 32, but the US, albeit as HOSTS, made it to the 2nd rounds.

I remember again, in 02, the US made it to the quarters and yet again, neither Trini or Jamaica were there. I remember asking myself, 'oh dear... what can the matter be... in the WC, will Trini ever be?'

Well you answered that this time around.

Good Job. You did Concacaf proud.

Ah luv it too (to borrow yuh phrase).

berris · « **Reply #21 on:** July 20, 2006, 11:37:16 AM »

Quote from: kicker on July 20, 2006, 07:16:36 AM

Quote from: berris on July 19, 2006, 08:47:48 PM

Kicker, I could be wrong but the headline say '' T&T finish 27th in 2006 world cup.'' To me that sound like ah order of finish,I agree they also say ''Trinidad and Tobago ranked 27th '' ...but what is the difference and shouldn't it be just an order of finish 1 thru 32 ? ...is no fuss really I just eh see de significance of it being ah ranking.....show me de light nah dread..

haha..yeah B I hear yuh, but yuh hadda put it in context...they didn't just say "Trinidad & Tobago ranked 27th", they said "of the 32 nations that competed in the world cup, Trinidad ranked 27th".......so the preface is what makes the difference....so in this case, order of finish & and a ranking amongst the WC participants is the same thing......let there be light (I hope )

cheers

yuh put de bean in meh face

...........ah need some shades now