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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #660 on: August 13, 2006, 10:40:03 AM »
http://youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

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All you pro-Isreali's...don't suggest you watch this.

yuh chooking fire wid dis one lol lol

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #661 on: August 13, 2006, 07:40:09 PM »
http://youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

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All you pro-Isreali's...don't suggest you watch this.

Galloway is ah man wit he own axe to grind oui.....so he is ah kinda one sided man right troo

However ah hadda laugh at that interview...when de man start to 'beat up' de woman in de interview...dey TURN DOWN de man microphone oui  :rotfl:...and turn up de sound on de images to drown him out

Only time ah had to give he real props is when he walk up in de U.S. senate and school ALL ah dem...lawd he embarass dem fellahs  :devil:
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« Reply #662 on: August 13, 2006, 08:01:03 PM »
"What a silly question..."
"What a silly person you are !"

I surprise that woman en cut he sooner..
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #663 on: August 14, 2006, 06:15:14 AM »


Their ratings is probably be real high when he is a guest.

He woulda never get to talk so long in the states.
U cud see him on Bill O'Reilly show   :o
Worse yet in the studio....dem woulda fight.

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #664 on: August 14, 2006, 06:22:41 AM »
preposterous!!!
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #665 on: August 14, 2006, 06:23:59 AM »


Their ratings is probably be real high when he is a guest.

He woulda never get to talk so long in the states.
U cud see him on Bill O'Reilly show   :o
Worse yet in the studio....dem woulda fight.

Yeah man,,in de states he get he 15 minutes of fame too...but of course dem FOXy fellahs reduce him to mr soundbite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk&eurl=
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #666 on: August 14, 2006, 06:30:52 AM »


Their ratings is probably be real high when he is a guest.

He woulda never get to talk so long in the states.
U cud see him on Bill O'Reilly show   :o
Worse yet in the studio....dem woulda fight.

Yeah man,,in de states he get he 15 minutes of fame too...but of course dem FOXy fellahs reduce him to mr soundbite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk&eurl=

dem is not real news network ..MSNBC and Fox.  The closest ting is "The Daily Show"
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #667 on: August 14, 2006, 08:33:53 PM »
http://youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

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All you pro-Isreali's...don't suggest you watch this.

galloway is a real star. he didn't stutter or reach for words in that entire interview. yuh tink dubya could do dat? fantastic rhetoretician - the english really set a different standard when it comes to that.

and he reveal a very interesting assumption of the western world when the woman pressed him on the hezbollah kidnap operation. i think the point that she was making, likening it to the ira, was to raise doubt that hezbollah was genuinely interested in using their new found voice in lebanese politics exclusively. i think she's correct in her analysis but it shows that to sky news "democracy" is more important than blood which is level bullshit.

the western world is increasingly defined by how romantic their view is of war. war is something fought in other lands - they even call this "defensive" (orwell would be proud). and the media so far is complicit in presenting the airbrushed version that advertising industry can best work with. i'm hoping this will change when the tv generation - that generation content with receiving news uncritically - die out and are replaced with a new generation that will actively seek out information and find truth.

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #668 on: August 14, 2006, 09:35:28 PM »
ah wonder wat Galloway will say with the cease fire?

all a dem over there jokey.

Hezbollah say dey win, even though 15 km to de border full of the IDF

Israel say dey win even doh deh bom the hell out of Lebanon and in the hours leading up to the cesasefire, Hezbollah still drop 250 missles on dem.

What dey fail to realize is dat war has no winners.
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #669 on: August 19, 2006, 06:20:05 PM »
Peace in de Middle East..steups  ;D

well both sides accept the peace proposal
it comes into effect quite on Monday
so in the meantime Israel pushing more and more troops as far north as fast as they could in order to occupy more of Lebanon..then they go turn it over to the UN.

ah wonder if during the ceasefire phase Isreal get ah call and somebody say the head man of Hizbollah travelling in ah taxi..if Israel go send in ah drone fuh he tail?
ah know isreal wont really care..but wouldnt that be illegal?

same thing ah was saying..steups

Annan: Israeli raid violates cease-fire

BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli commandos raided a Hezbollah stronghold deep in Lebanon on Saturday, engaging in a fierce gunbattle, and the Lebanese government threatened to halt further troop deployments in protest as the 6-day-old U.N.-brokered cease-fire was put to a critical test. Secretary-General Kofi Annan called the operation a violation of the U.N. truce, according to a statement from his spokesman.
 
       Israel said the raid — launched to stop arms smuggling from        Iran and        Syria to the militant Shiite fighters — left one Israeli officer dead and two soldiers wounded.

There were no signs of further clashes, but the flare-up underlined worries about the fragility of the cease-fire as the U.N. pleaded for nations to send troops to an international force in southern Lebanon that is to separate Israeli and Hezbollah fighters.

But with Europe moving slowly to provide more troops, Israel warned it would continue to act on its own to enforce an arms embargo on the Lebanese guerrilla group until the Lebanese army and an expanded U.N. peacekeeping force are in place.

"If the Syrians and Iran continue to arm Hezbollah in violation of the resolution, Israel is entitled to act to defend the principle of the arms embargo," Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said. "Once the Lebanese army and the international forces are active ... then such Israeli activity will become superfluous."

Defense Minister Elias Murr met with U.N. envoy Terje Roed-Larsen and threatened to halt the movement of Lebanese troops into the former war zone in the south if the        United Nations did not intervene against Israel. That could deeply damage efforts to deploy a strong U.N. peacekeeping force.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert defended the raid during a phone conversation with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, saying it was "intended to prevent the re-supply of new weapons and ammunition for Hezbollah," officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly on the issue.

The Israeli leader pointed to the importance of the supervision of the Syrian-Lebanese border as well, they said.

The Israeli military also said the raid was launched "to prevent and interfere with terror activity against Israel, especially the smuggling of arms from Iran and Syria to Hezbollah."

The White House declined to criticize the raid, noting that Israel said it acted in reaction to arms smuggling into Lebanon and that the U.N. resolution calls for the prevention of resupplying Hezbollah with weapons.

The broad outlines of the U.N. cease-fire plan call on Hezbollah to halt all attacks and for Israel to stop offensive operations. It gives Israel the right to respond if attacked, but the commandos were flown in by helicopter and the raid took place far from Israeli troops in southern Lebanon.

Israel did not identify the officer killed in the raid. Hezbollah issued a terse statement saying guerrillas "ambushed" the commando force and suffered no casualties. Lebanese security officials said three guerrillas were killed and three wounded.

The security officials said the commandos flew in by helicopter to a hill outside the village of Boudai west of Baalbek in eastern Lebanon, about 17 miles from the Syrian border. Witnesses said Israeli missiles destroyed a bridge during the fighting.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release information to the media, said the Israelis apparently were seeking a guerrilla target in a nearby school but they had no other details.

Lebanese media speculated that Sheik Mohammed Yazbeck, a senior Hezbollah official in the Bekaa Valley and a member of the group's executive council, may have been the target. Yazbeck is a native of Boudai.

The Israeli army denied it had captured any Hezbollah fighter, and said it had not been the raid's objective.

Overflights by Israeli jet fighters drowned out the clatter of helicopters that flew the commandos into the foothills of the central Lebanese mountains, local Hezbollah officials said.

Using two vehicles also delivered by helicopter, the commandos drove into Boudai and were intercepted by Hezbollah fighters in a field, the officials said. They said the Israelis identified themselves as Lebanese soldiers, but the guerrillas grew suspicious and gunfire erupted.

Israeli helicopters fired missiles as the commandos withdrew and flew them out of the area an hour later, the Hezbollah officials said.

Witnesses reported seeing bandages and syringes at the landing site outside Boudai. The bridge that witnesses said was destroyed was about 500 yards from the landing site.

The U.N. and Lebanon's government have said Hezbollah will not be allowed to bring weapons out in public, but have declined to commit to trying to disarm the guerrillas, as called for in a September 2004 U.N. resolution.

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #670 on: August 22, 2006, 09:06:20 AM »
Feliz, you make a point there. me, ah doh care if hezbollah and idf tear each other apart. the ceasefire at the very least gives some peace of mind to the lebanese citizens - aid supplies can flow, rebuilding efforts can be attempted and the bombing campaign is, at the very least, interrupted.

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #671 on: August 28, 2006, 06:56:46 AM »
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #672 on: September 12, 2006, 01:36:35 PM »

1979??!! - that's 27 years. Qantar was 17 years old at the time.



Israel soldiers won't be freed without swap: Hizbollah

DUBAI (Reuters) - Hizbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said in remarks aired on Tuesday his group would only release the two Israeli soldiers it kidnapped if Israel freed Samir al-Qantar, a Lebanese prisoner held by the Jewish state since 1979.

"After all that happened and this ends without Samir?" Nasrallah told Al Jazeera television in an interview.

Nasrallah stopped short of saying the group would not set the release of other prisoners as part of its conditions.

"There are other prisoners," the interviewer said.


"You ask me, will there be a deal without Samir, I say no ... Absolutely not," Nasrallah answered.

Israel's foreign ministry had no immediate comment.

Nasrallah said he expected a U.N. "mediator" to visit Lebanon next week to try to secure a deal for the release of the two Israeli soldiers the group kidnapped in July.

"He was supposed to come late last week and he is expected to come next week, but negotiations have not yet started."

Nasrallah said the envoy is European but did not give more details.   

The kidnapping of the two soldiers triggered a 34-day war between Israel and the guerrilla group.

The Iran-backed group has declared at the outset of the war the goal was to exchange the soldiers for Lebanese and Palestinians detained in Israel.

Qantar, 44, is the longest-held Lebanese detainee.. He was captured during a 1979 attack on northern Israel by a Palestinian guerrilla group in which an Israeli policeman, another man and his four-year-old daughter were killed.

In 2004, Hizbollah and Israel exchanged the bodies of three Israeli soldiers captured in 2000 and a kidnapped Israeli businessman for 400 Palestinian and 23 Lebanese and Arab prisoners in a German-brokered deal.


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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #673 on: September 12, 2006, 05:57:38 PM »
and was just this weekend ah was checking old news to see if them 2 soldiers did get released lol
so much for invading to get their soldiers back..ceasefire come and gone and still no soldiers lol
as if dat was Israel priority anyway  ;D
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Udate: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #674 on: May 22, 2007, 07:47:37 AM »
It never ends

Here is a timeline and update on Lebanon


TIMELINE, Reuters


February, 2005

Former prime minister Rafik alHariri is killed by a bomb in Beirut. Two months later, under international pressure, Syria ends its 29year military presence in Lebanon. J


July, 2006

Israel strikes Lebanon after Hezbollah guerrillas abduct Israeli soldiers. At least 1,200 people die in Lebanon in 34 days of fighting.


November, 2006

Industry Minister Pierre Gemayel is killed by gunmen as his convoy drives through the Christian Sin el-Fil neighbourhood of Beirut.

December, 2006

The opposition, which also includes the Shiite Amal faction and Christian leader Michel Aoun, begins an open-ended campaign in central Beirut to topple the government.


January, 2007

A general strike is called by the Hezbollah-led opposition to dislodge Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and his proWestern government.

March, 2007

Rivals antiSyrian majority leader Saad al-Hariri, a Sunni Muslim, and Shiite Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, a key opposition leader, meet for the first time in four months to discuss ways to end the political crisis.


May 20-21, 2007

Lebanese troops battle al Qaeda-linked militants, members of the Fatah al-Islam militant group, in northern Lebanon and at least 71 people are killed, 27 of them soldiers, after security forces raid homes in Tripoli to arrest suspects accused of robbing a bank a day earlier.


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REFUGEE CAMP A BATTLEFIELD
Thousands flee deadly fighting in Lebanon, Militants threaten to ‘move the battle’ beyond Tripoli
BY NAZIH SIDDIQ

NAHR AL-BARED, LEBANON •

Battles engulfed a Palestinian refugee camp in north Lebanon yesterday in the second day of fighting between the Lebanese army and al-Qaeda-inspired militants that has killed 79 people.

Black smoke billowed from the Nahr al-Bared camp, home to 40,000 Palestinians, as tanks shelled positions held by Fatah al-Islam fighters hitting back with machine gun and grenade fire.

Palestinians in the camp said thousands had fled their homes on the edges of Nahr al-Bared, where fighting was most intense, to shelter deeper inside the coastal camp in north Lebanon.

“We are under siege,” Palestinian Hisham Yacoub said by telephone from within the camp. “There’s no water, no electricity or milk for the children,” said Mohammed Abu Laila, also talking by phone from the camp.

The fighting had stopped United Nations and Red Cross workers from delivering essential supplies. More than 150 people had been wounded and dozens of homes destroyed, Palestinian sources said.

Abu Salim, a spokesman for Fatah al-Islam, threatened to ignite violence elsewhere if the army did not ease its bombardment. “If the situation stays like this, we will not be silent and will definitely move the battle outside [the nearby city] of Tripoli,” he said by telephone.

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #675 on: May 22, 2007, 09:32:50 AM »
i was watching this yesterday on cnn international,  live battles. here we go again...
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Re: Udate: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #676 on: May 22, 2007, 11:01:13 AM »
It never ends

Here is a timeline and update on Lebanon


TIMELINE, Reuters


February, 2005

Former prime minister Rafik alHariri is killed by a bomb in Beirut. Two months later, under international pressure, Syria ends its 29year military presence in Lebanon. J


July, 2006

Israel strikes Lebanon after Hezbollah guerrillas abduct Israeli soldiers. At least 1,200 people die in Lebanon in 34 days of fighting.


November, 2006

Industry Minister Pierre Gemayel is killed by gunmen as his convoy drives through the Christian Sin el-Fil neighbourhood of Beirut.

December, 2006

The opposition, which also includes the Shiite Amal faction and Christian leader Michel Aoun, begins an open-ended campaign in central Beirut to topple the government.


January, 2007

A general strike is called by the Hezbollah-led opposition to dislodge Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and his proWestern government.

March, 2007

Rivals antiSyrian majority leader Saad al-Hariri, a Sunni Muslim, and Shiite Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, a key opposition leader, meet for the first time in four months to discuss ways to end the political crisis.


May 20-21, 2007

Lebanese troops battle al Qaeda-linked militants, members of the Fatah al-Islam militant group, in northern Lebanon and at least 71 people are killed, 27 of them soldiers, after security forces raid homes in Tripoli to arrest suspects accused of robbing a bank a day earlier.


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REFUGEE CAMP A BATTLEFIELD
Thousands flee deadly fighting in Lebanon, Militants threaten to ‘move the battle’ beyond Tripoli
BY NAZIH SIDDIQ

NAHR AL-BARED, LEBANON •

Battles engulfed a Palestinian refugee camp in north Lebanon yesterday in the second day of fighting between the Lebanese army and al-Qaeda-inspired militants that has killed 79 people.

Black smoke billowed from the Nahr al-Bared camp, home to 40,000 Palestinians, as tanks shelled positions held by Fatah al-Islam fighters hitting back with machine gun and grenade fire.

Palestinians in the camp said thousands had fled their homes on the edges of Nahr al-Bared, where fighting was most intense, to shelter deeper inside the coastal camp in north Lebanon.

“We are under siege,” Palestinian Hisham Yacoub said by telephone from within the camp. “There’s no water, no electricity or milk for the children,” said Mohammed Abu Laila, also talking by phone from the camp.

The fighting had stopped United Nations and Red Cross workers from delivering essential supplies. More than 150 people had been wounded and dozens of homes destroyed, Palestinian sources said.

Abu Salim, a spokesman for Fatah al-Islam, threatened to ignite violence elsewhere if the army did not ease its bombardment. “If the situation stays like this, we will not be silent and will definitely move the battle outside [the nearby city] of Tripoli,” he said by telephone.



i just heard that de lebanese government is HELPING dem militant groups :o :o....so who de lebanese army fighting for then? i confused  ???
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #677 on: May 22, 2007, 11:34:29 AM »
join de club ... i feel dey forget what de fighting about too ... all dey knowi is to fight
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #678 on: May 23, 2007, 08:57:07 PM »
Wey Toppa?

Food for thought ....

How come nobody accusing de Leabanese government of a terrorism after dey drop missiles on the refugee camp the militant group camping out in .. .15,000 civilian abandoned the camp after the bombing started.

I seem to recall when Israel began to drop missile, some accuse them of terrorism
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #679 on: May 23, 2007, 09:18:45 PM »
ah kinda confused too
who against who and for what reasons exactly?
all ah know so far is dat some Islamic militant group (with Al-Qaieda style principles) inside a Palestinian refugee camp which is inside Lebanon.
so is Lebanon trying to crush them to make it look like they fighting terrorism?
where Hezbollah and Hamas in all dis?
where David Nahkid too?  ;D

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« Reply #680 on: May 24, 2007, 10:27:55 AM »
ah kinda confused too
who against who and for what reasons exactly?
all ah know so far is dat some Islamic militant group (with Al-Qaieda style principles) inside a Palestinian refugee camp which is inside Lebanon.
so is Lebanon trying to crush them to make it look like they fighting terrorism?
where Hezbollah and Hamas in all dis?
where David Nahkid too?  ;D



some new group call "fatah al islam" from de refugee camp robbed a bank.....dize de reason why all that sh*t start.
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #681 on: May 24, 2007, 01:24:18 PM »
Leh wee see if the news go take wind of this one and knock the lebanese domestic skirmish out of the headlines



Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran
May 22, 2007 6:29 PM

Brian Ross and Richard Esposito Report:

The CIA has received secret presidential approval to mount a covert "black" operation to destabilize the Iranian government, current and former officials in the intelligence community tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com.

The sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the subject, say President Bush has signed a "nonlethal presidential finding" that puts into motion a CIA plan that reportedly includes a coordinated campaign of propaganda, disinformation and manipulation of Iran's currency and international financial transactions.

"I can't confirm or deny whether such a program exists or whether the president signed it, but it would be consistent with an overall American approach trying to find ways to put pressure on the regime," said Bruce Riedel, a recently retired CIA senior official who dealt with Iran and other countries in the region.

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A National Security Council spokesperson, Gordon Johndroe, said, "The White House does not comment on intelligence matters." A CIA spokesperson said, "As a matter of course, we do not comment on allegations of covert activity."

The sources say the CIA developed the covert plan over the last year and received approval from White House officials and other officials in the intelligence community.

Officials say the covert plan is designed to pressure Iran to stop its nuclear enrichment program and end aid to insurgents in Iraq.

"There are some channels where the United States government may want to do things without its hand showing, and legally, therefore, the administration would, if it's doing that, need an intelligence finding and would need to tell the Congress," said ABC News consultant Richard Clarke, a former White House counterterrorism official.
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #682 on: May 24, 2007, 02:50:46 PM »



Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran
May 22, 2007 6:29 PM

The CIA has received secret presidential approval to mount a covert "black" operation to destabilize the Iranian government, current and former officials in the intelligence community tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com.



Dutty .. ah hear yuh gorn ...(according to my source)

Yuh taking part in dat covert "black" operation?

Good luck pardna ... happy coverting

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #683 on: June 01, 2007, 09:24:28 AM »
And so it continues




By Nazih Siddiq 2 hours, 22 minutes ago

NAHR AL-BARED, Lebanon (Reuters) - Battles raged around a Palestinian refugee camp in north Lebanon on Friday as Lebanese troops tried to tighten the noose around al Qaeda-inspired militants holed up there.


Security sources said elite forces were trying to dislodge the group called Fatah al-Islam from some front positions on the edge of Nahr al-Bared camp while artillery batteries pounded the area. A Fatah al-Islam source said the militants had repulsed all attacks on its positions in seven hours of fierce fighting.

The army has been battling militants in the camp -- many of them foreign fighters, Lebanese authorities say -- since May 20 in Lebanon's worst internal violence since the 1975-1990 civil war. At least 84 people -- 35 soldiers, 29 militants and 20 civilians -- have been killed.

.......

The camp, set up in 1948 as a temporary tent camp to house Palestinian refugees fleeing their homes after the creation of Israel, is now a small town with small concrete buildings and narrow alleyways.

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #684 on: August 16, 2007, 09:45:28 AM »
oh shucks - look they made a video game out of it ....

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Hezbollah video game: War with Israel

BEIRUT, Lebanon (Reuters) -- Raid Israel to capture soldiers, battle tanks in the valleys of southern Lebanon and launch Katyusha rockets at Israeli towns -- a new Hezbollah computer game puts players on the frontline of war with the Jewish state.



Some 1,200 people were killed in Lebanon in last year's conflict.



"Special Force 2" is based on last year's 34-day conflict between the Lebanese guerrilla group and Israel.

"This game presents the culture of the resistance to children: that occupation must be resisted and that land and the nation must be guarded," Hezbollah media official Sheikh Ali Daher said.

But Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev responded by saying: ''It should come as a surprise to no one that Hezbollah teaches children that hatred and violence are positive attributes.''

Designed by Hezbollah computer experts, players of "Special Force 2" take the role of a Hezbollah fighter, or Mujahid. Weapons and points are accumulated by killing Israeli soldiers.

The game, launched on Thursday, recreates key phases of the conflict, which was triggered when Hezbollah forces raided northern Israel and captured two soldiers, saying they wanted to negotiate a prisoner swap.

Hezbollah takes huge pride in its military performance in the war, which killed 158 Israelis, mainly soldiers. Some 1,200 people, mostly civilians, were killed in Lebanon.

Israel says Hezbollah was weakened in the conflict, in which the group was forced out of its strongholds along the Israeli border and an expanded international peacekeeping force deployed in southern Lebanon under a U.N.-brokered cease-fire.

Hezbollah, a Shiite Muslim group backed by Iran and Syria, declared the outcome of the conflict a "divine victory."

"Through this game the child can build an idea of some of ... the most prominent battles and the idea that this enemy can be defeated," Daher said.

The game retails at about $10 in Lebanon and is produced by volunteers. Hezbollah is expecting strong demand for the game at home and abroad. Hundreds of copies have been reserved in advance in Lebanon.

The 3-D game forces players to think and use their resources wisely, reflecting the way Hezbollah fights, Daher said.

"The features which are the secret of resistance's victory in the south have moved to this game so that the child can understand that fighting the enemy does not only require the gun.

"It requires readiness, supplies, armament, attentiveness, tactics."

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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #685 on: August 16, 2007, 10:58:52 AM »
is funny you post this today

This week is the one year anniversary of the start of the war
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Re: War in Lebanon (Escape from Lebanon)
« Reply #686 on: May 13, 2008, 05:24:30 AM »


so a year and 3/4 after the war began, here is an update on the state of Lebanon

Lebanon’s endless war  The National Post May 13, 2008

The Palestinians and Israelis get all the attention. But it is on the tiny sliver of Mediterranean coast known as Lebanon that the political dysfunction of the Middle East is truly epitomized.

Beirut was a major centre in Ottoman times: Indeed, the territory that is now Israel was once ruled from that city. It retained its prominence under the French, and became a freewheeling, sophisticated hub for wealthy Arabs looking to escape the Bedouin parochialism of their native countries.

And then, in the 1970s, it all fell apart — and hasn’t really come together since.

Lebanon’s civil war — which nominally ended in 1990 — involved Syria, Israel and a variety of other regional actors. But essentially, it came down to the fact that the Arab world’s Shiites, Sunnis, Druze and Christians could not share the same nation without repressing (and occasionally killing) one another. In most parts of the Middle East — Saudi Arabia, for example — these groups are sufficiently dispersed to avoid blowing one another up. In Lebanon, they live cheek by jowl.

As in any narrative of Arab dysfunction, the Palestinians have played a supporting role. When the PLO wore out its welcome in Jordan in the early 1970s, Yasser Arafat moved his military infrastructure to Lebanon, complicating the country’s civil war further. Israel invaded in 1982, threw Arafat out, and then stuck around to fight Iran’s Shiite proxy force, Hezbollah — which itself has outlasted the Israeli presence, and made itself a major nuisance.

Skipping over the 2006 war with Israel (among other major events), this brings us to last week, when Hezbollah’s confrontation with West Beirut based Sunni supporters of the country’s moderate, semi-functional government (whose politicians — did we mention? — are still occasionally blown up by a Syrian military apparatus that resents having been kicked out of the country in 2005) threatened to bring the country into complete chaos. Got all that? Who won last week’s confrontation in Beirut? It’s hard to say. On one hand, Hezbollah showed its street strength, and got the government to back down on a plan to strip away its private communications and security network. On the other hand, most Lebanese factions seem to blame Hezbollah for staging such a dangerous provocation, and for humiliating the country’s Sunnis. No one knows which side would win an all-out civil war. All we know is that the prospects of such a war are now greater than they were a week ago.

Colonialism, oil, Israel and the Iraq war are all regularly cited as the bogeymen responsible for the backwardness that pervades the Middle East. Lebanon’s failure to become a normal country after all these years suggests there is something more basic at the root of the region’s problems: a regressive climate in which power is wielded not through consensus and diplomacy, but by warring sects and clan leaders.


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