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Nightmare overhanging darkly (Lincoln v TTFF & Anton).
« on: August 12, 2006, 04:13:59 PM »
In my quest for football news out of TT, I was "informed" (by a usually reliable source) that TD Lincoln Phillips has been suspended by the TTFF. This appears to be a developing story. Stay tuned. :( :(
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2006, 04:16:22 PM »
what!!! i await this news
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2006, 04:17:03 PM »
Hmmmm..........well I interested in this.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2006, 05:58:38 PM »
Suspend ? Why not expel? What he did was not so bad for expulsion? I await to hear this story.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2006, 09:10:45 PM »
Here's the story folks. Yes, the TD has been suspended. But this is issue is a red herring and lame attempt by Warner to get rid of a person whom he views as a threat. Here is some background that could hopefully explain the TTFF move.

The basis of this is whole matter is power and influence. Before, the Warner apologists join the chorus of "why should a FIFA VP fear the TD, etc.", you should all know that Warner has been able to create his uncontested power by removing, damaging, and/or buying off every rival that has been in his way. Unfotunately, he found the TD to be cut from a seperate cloth and a person who has a great deal of public support. Also, why would Warner deny the TD credit for coming up with the recommendation of hiring Beenhakker? The answer is power and influence. Notice he gave credit for Beenhakker to a discredited and disgraced David Nakhid.

Three weeks ago the TTFF announced, without any internal discussion, their proposal to the government called Project 2010 that among other changes included the TD would be "confined" to coaching goalkeeing development.  Lincoln and his technical commitee put forth a counter proposal that among other things challenged the merit and logic of:
1) keeping Leo as a "Techncial Advisor" while coaching Poland,
2) signing Wim to a 4 year contract rather than a 2 year contract,
3)having Anton oversee all of the youth teams when his ability as a coach has not been proven,
4)giving Latapy a mere ceremonial role rather than a more substantial role as a coach of one of the youth teams, and
5)having anton as the only local coach involved in the new arrangement when other more qualified "locals" like Brian Haynes, Stephan Hart, and Latapy should be each assigned to a youth team and work as assistants with the senior team. 

Warner, the Corneals (anton and alvin), and Groden did not like this opposition and a week later the suspension issue came up. But it is important to understand why this is happening and the politics that are at play.

Warner has labled the TD a "PNM" because of his successful lobbying of the government to support the youth development program in 2005 when previous solicitations by Warner to the government had been ignored. Since then, both Warner and TTFF Gen. Sec., Richard Groden have tried to undermine the program from its beginning by not submitting the required payment requests needed to pay for the various programs. This is why coaches have not been paid since last year and teams have not been in regular training.  The TD had to fight tooth and nail with Warner and Groden to get the u16 team to the Dallas Cup and was eventually denied the opportunity to send the U16s to the Milk Cup even though he was able to secure a spot in the tournament based on earlier clearance by Warner. 

With the government funding, the TD would not be beholden to Warner and this would be too much of a problem for someone who has single handedly controlled football in T&T for more than 20 years. Also, Warner has blatently misrepresented the government's financial support when the fact is the government was the single biggest financial and in kind benefactor of the socawarriors efforts. Warner would not recognize this because of his role in the UNC,  A role that is a very, very important element in this whole mess.

Now the issue behind the suspension is connected to alleged unauthorized expenditures by former SPORTT CEO, Ken Butcher, who worked with Lincoln on developing the youth development program.  The TD's suspension is connected to a large invoice was sent to TTFF weeks ago because SPORTT refused to pay the invoice since Butcher was released from his position. The retailer claims the TD ordered the equipment but this claim has been proven to be without merit because equipment was simply delivered to the TD office. It also seems the invoice that was recently sent to the TTFF was altered to include the TDs name. Fortunately, the TD kept the original invoice that was sent several months earlier and on that invoice his name does not appear. But rather than giving any due process, the TTFF suspended the TD as an attempt to embarass and frustrate him. The TD has provided all the records and stated that he did not order equipment nor has the authority to order equipment. However in spite of the evidence that supports the TDs position, the strategy of the TTFF is simply to make the TD resign out of frustration, but he has dug in and will fight.

Government officials have already acknowledged the TD is not reponsible for the invoices and have voiced their displeasure over how the TTFF has handled the matter. This may, in fact, be one of the reasons why the Project 2010 proposal has not been embraced and accepted by the government. So this may turn out to be a very nasty fight that may determine if the same people behind the rot that has plagued football in T&T will continue to operate without any accountability.  Stay tuned.

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2006, 09:17:29 PM »
Is real tempo yes ! When I raised the matter of who was making the decisions in the TTFF eg. who appointed Wim etc. some may have thought I was only trying to cause trouble.....fact is trouble done cause already...make room for another head ......Lincoln..... yes jack how high Jack..if you cant say that then ..bye

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2006, 09:30:14 PM »
Here's the story folks. Yes, the TD has been suspended. But this is issue is a red herring and lame attempt by Warner to get rid of a person whom he views as a threat. Here is some background that could hopefully explain the TTFF move.

The basis of this is whole matter is power and influence. Before, the Warner apologists join the chorus of "why should a FIFA VP fear the TD, etc.", you should all know that Warner has been able to create his uncontested power by removing, damaging, and/or buying off every rival that has been in his way. Unfotunately, he found the TD to be cut from a seperate cloth and a person who has a great deal of public support. Also, why would Warner deny the TD credit for coming up with the recommendation of hiring Beenhakker? The answer is power and influence. Notice he gave credit for Beenhakker to a discredited and disgraced David Nakhid.

Three weeks ago the TTFF announced, without any internal discussion, their proposal to the government called Project 2010 that among other changes included the TD would be "confined" to coaching goalkeeing development.  Lincoln and his technical commitee put forth a counter proposal that among other things challenged the merit and logic of:
1) keeping Leo as a "Techncial Advisor" while coaching Poland,
2) signing Wim to a 4 year contract rather than a 2 year contract,
3)having Anton oversee all of the youth teams when his ability as a coach has not been proven,
4)giving Latapy a mere ceremonial role rather than a more substantial role as a coach of one of the youth teams, and
5)having anton as the only local coach involved in the new arrangement when other more qualified "locals" like Brian Haynes, Stephan Hart, and Latapy should be each assigned to a youth team and work as assistants with the senior team. 

Warner, the Corneals (anton and alvin), and Groden did not like this opposition and a week later the suspension issue came up. But it is important to understand why this is happening and the politics that are at play.

Warner has labled the TD a "PNM" because of his successful lobbying of the government to support the youth development program in 2005 when previous solicitations by Warner to the government had been ignored. Since then, both Warner and TTFF Gen. Sec., Richard Groden have tried to undermine the program from its beginning by not submitting the required payment requests needed to pay for the various programs. This is why coaches have not been paid since last year and teams have not been in regular training.  The TD had to fight tooth and nail with Warner and Groden to get the u16 team to the Dallas Cup and was eventually denied the opportunity to send the U16s to the Milk Cup even though he was able to secure a spot in the tournament based on earlier clearance by Warner. 

With the government funding, the TD would not be beholden to Warner and this would be too much of a problem for someone who has single handedly controlled football in T&T for more than 20 years. Also, Warner has blatently misrepresented the government's financial support when the fact is the government was the single biggest financial and in kind benefactor of the socawarriors efforts. Warner would not recognize this because of his role in the UNC,  A role that is a very, very important element in this whole mess.

Now the issue behind the suspension is connected to alleged unauthorized expenditures by former SPORTT CEO, Ken Butcher, who worked with Lincoln on developing the youth development program.  The TD's suspension is connected to a large invoice was sent to TTFF weeks ago because SPORTT refused to pay the invoice since Butcher was released from his position. The retailer claims the TD ordered the equipment but this claim has been proven to be without merit because equipment was simply delivered to the TD office. It also seems the invoice that was recently sent to the TTFF was altered to include the TDs name. Fortunately, the TD kept the original invoice that was sent several months earlier and on that invoice his name does not appear. But rather than giving any due process, the TTFF suspended the TD as an attempt to embarass and frustrate him. The TD has provided all the records and stated that he did not order equipment nor has the authority to order equipment. However in spite of the evidence that supports the TDs position, the strategy of the TTFF is simply to make the TD resign out of frustration, but he has dug in and will fight.

Government officials have already acknowledged the TD is not reponsible for the invoices and have voiced their displeasure over how the TTFF has handled the matter. This may, in fact, be one of the reasons why the Project 2010 proposal has not been embraced and accepted by the government. So this may turn out to be a very nasty fight that may determine if the same people behind the rot that has plagued football in T&T will continue to operate without any accountability.  Stay tuned.

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Well thats a blasted shame, in other words Jack asking for for help then refusing, bailing out de situation and trying to look like he is de good guy in de end. What a con man. A blasted shame and Jack does try to make the public feel the government so bad and he refusing to accept help then blasting them, Jack is a real politican. Money is really de root of all evil, because if Jack was poor this would never happen, he buying friends, Camps, Gorden and Corneal will walk de day Jack go broke.

Lincoln better stay and fight, he done in de bull pen, so he better go down fighting. Anton, Alvin and Gorden is real assholes we. Lincoln should just go and work for de government and try and build some school for athletics, they could use the $850 million stadium as a base, but then again Jack will spite him forever, Lincoln should also know better if he get close to de government then Jack will get rid of him. So is a no win situation for Lincoln, because if he side with Jack then nothing will be done because Gorden and Anton cutting he throat, and if he go with de government then Jack will fire and brand him forever.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2006, 09:35:03 PM »
alvin corneal again?  please tell me no.

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2006, 10:45:42 PM »
Jack way or de highway dat is how it always goes. Like nobody should oppose or challenge this man

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2006, 10:48:37 PM »
sigh.


I remember the days when Truetrini myself and a few of the felklahz on the board were battling these ignorant ass Jack supporters... and just feeling shame Trinis could be so blind...


now the man is about to uproot the most solid tree planted in our developing forest.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2006, 10:53:43 PM »
Steups. I had a foreboding feeling dis woulda happen when i see "confined to goal keeping coaching". What is he doing that have him overstepping his boundaries and resulting in him being confined?? He one of the few men involved in TTFF i go actually take serious. Now yuh tryin to take him out. Jack's rape of our football continues.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2006, 11:33:54 PM »
It was only a matter of time. The man can go back to the US and help built their football because in TNT is Jack way or the highway
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2006, 05:47:16 AM »
alvin corneal again?  please tell me no.
Well I would say not directly :devil: however in the background, it is said that the TD and Anton are at odds. Anton was pencilled in as the TD before Lincoln was awarded the position. Anton had to settle for the "lesser" role as Youth Development Director when he arrived. Now the way is been cleared for his elevation.

On another note, the former U-16 coach Mr Ellie walked away after not receiving his wages for over a year, therefore Anton the only paid (by the gov't) local coach had to fill the breach. The team had to borrow balls, scrimmage vests etc from Ellie's school team to train with. All that money spinning around and available for youth football, yet JW and them won't authorize the release of funds. Ellie was also upset with Anton in the past as he would just show up at session and tell the coach that he would conduct that session,  which he would watch from the stands.

Another big football supporter told me first hand that he met with the TD to see how he could be of assistance to him.Unfortunately, Anton was also in the TD's office. He said everything the TD suggested, Anton would respond with his solutions. The man say he told Lincoln that his time was being wasted since he has all the answer right there. He left quietly and now wonders about the TTFF's dysfunction ??? >:( >:(
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2006, 06:19:12 AM »
The TD and Anton have been at odds from day one because Anton and his father felt Anton should have been the TD. In addition to constantly stabbing the TD in his back, there is some feeling that Anton was the one behind Latapy's marginalization on and off the field by Leo. It seems that Anton had been bad talking Latapy since Latapy was the one who was being tapped as the next senior coach. In fact, Jack had promised Latapy the job after the World Cup. The TD, however, felt that the best role for Latapy was to coach the U21 team rather than be a caretaker coach and have Anton coach the U18 team to see who between them can really coach. But the Corneals don't like to be evaluated and would rather manipulate in the background as a means to obtain opportunities. I hear from very reliiable sources that one of the talks Anton had been spreading about Latapy during the world cup was that Latapy had given up, he had a "little boy" mentality, and was not coaching material. Apparently Falkirk sees it differently since Latapy is the head coach of the u21 team and assistant coach with the senior team. Folks the problem is as much the Corneals as it is Jack.

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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2006, 06:46:19 AM »
The TD and Anton have been at odds from day one because Anton and his father felt Anton should have been the TD. In addition to constantly stabbing the TD in his back, there is some feeling that Anton was the one behind Latapy's marginalization on and off the field by Leo. It seems that Anton had been bad talking Latapy since Latapy was the one who was being tapped as the next senior coach. In fact, Jack had promised Latapy the job after the World Cup. The TD, however, felt that the best role for Latapy was to coach the U21 team rather than be a caretaker coach and have Anton coach the U18 team to see who between them can really coach. But the Corneals don't like to be evaluated and would rather manipulate in the background as a means to obtain opportunities. I hear from very reliiable sources that one of the talks Anton had been spreading about Latapy during the world cup was that Latapy had given up, he had a "little boy" mentality, and was not coaching material. Apparently Falkirk sees it differently since Latapy is the head coach of the u21 team and assistant coach with the senior team. Folks the problem is as much the Corneals as it is Jack.

what has anton ever done to be TD and also i remember reading an article that LP appointed AntoN and YouthTD
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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2006, 06:58:46 AM »

what has anton ever done to be TD and also i remember reading an article that LP appointed AntoN and YouthTD
You got that wrong. Here's Fuentes article.

TTFF appoints Lincoln Phillips Technical Director.

By: Shaun Fuentes.
31-Jan-2004 - Highly regarded and experienced coach, former national goalkeeper Lincoln Phillips has been appointed Technical Director of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF).
Phillip's position was among several confirmed by the Executive Committee of the TTFF following a meeting at its Headquarters on Friday evening.
His appointment comes on the heels of the decision to make Bertille St Clair Head Coach of the National Senior Team for its 2006 World Cup qualifying campaign. Phillips' appointment will be on an itinerant basis for the next six months pending the completion of arrangements for his full relocation to Trinidad and Tobago at the end of June, 2004.
Among other appointments to take effect from February 1, 2004 along with Phillips' include that of Director of Development which was given to Anton Corneal and National Teams' Administrative Manager, given to George Joseph.
A Committee comprising Messrs Raymond Timkee (Sr. Vice President), Richard Groden, (General Secretary) and Jack Warner (Special Adviser) has been appointed to meet with Stuart Charles Fevrier on his return from Mexico to discuss his future Coaching relationship with the Football Federation.
The TTFF also advises that Publicis Caribbean Limited has also been appointed the advertising Agency for the Federation.

Other policy decisions taken include:

A. Messrs Oliver Camps, Richard Groden and Rudolph Thomas have been nominated to attend the FIFA Congress and Centennial Celebrations in Paris from May 20th - 23rd, 2004.

B. The Football Federation will be hosting the undermentioned international events in 2004.

i. Caribbean Qualifying Futsal Competition in April, 2004.
ii. Caribbean Qualifying Women U17 Competition in August, 2004.
iii. Caribbean Qualifying U17 and U20 Boys' Competitions in September and October 2004 respectively.

C. All National Selections in the future must be submitted to the General Secretariat no less than 21 days before the scheduled date of departure for an event nor less than 14 days for the hosting of an event locally.

D. No more complimentary tickets shall be issued in the future for football events of a commercial nature.

E. Authorisation has been given for Bertille St Clair, Head Coach of Team Trinidad & Tobago, to coopt such technical and other assistance that he deems necessary for the successful completion of his exercise.

F. Five new clubs have been selected to replace the five out going clubs from the Super League.

The Super League 2004 will now be comprised of the following clubs:

Bi Water Stokely Vale, WASA Clean & White, Police FC, Maraval Youth Academy, Crab Connection, Club Sando, Caroni FC together with Carib F.C., Joe Public FC, Superstar Rangers, Tobago Phoenix FC and Moruga F.C.

Six of the clubs in the Super League will automatically qualify to participate in the Federation's F.A. Competition.
A meeting has been scheduled with All Sport Promotion to discuss all the measures related to the conduct of the League for 2004.
The Executive Committee has declared that at the end of the 2004 Season and continuing three teams in the Super League shall be demoted to their respective Regional Associations and three teams shall be promoted to the Super League on
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2006, 07:13:28 AM »
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Track record does not mean anything to the Corneals. They feel they are the most knowlegeable football people in T&T and everyone else beneath them. They are also some of the biggest sellouts I have seen. Every foreign coach that comes to T&T, they wine, dine, and brown nose them. Alvin regularly plays golf with Wim. Because they can talk a good game, they are kept around by these coaches. But anyone who values track record will realize the Corneals are tremendous frauds.

I also heard from a very reliable source that Anton was the major player behind Latapy's treatment leading up to and at the World Cup. The story is that since Jack promised Latapy the coaching job after the world cup when Latapy decided to return to the team, Anton and his father saw to it to undo this arrangement. So the whispering campaign began on Leo and Wim from the time Anton was appointed as assistant in December. I'm sure others have heard this. This is why the Corneals' profile has risen tremendoulsly since the world cup. They have been plotting this for months. Time to uncover the snakes.
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2006, 08:11:12 AM »

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Track record does not mean anything to the Corneals. They feel they are the most knowlegeable football people in T&T and everyone else beneath them. They are also some of the biggest sellouts I have seen. Everytime a foreign coach that comes to T&T, they wine, dine, and brown nose them. Alvin regularly plays golf with Wim. Because they can talk a good game, they are kept around by these coaches. But anyone who values track record will realize the Corneals are tremendous frauds.

I also heard from a very reliable source that Anton was the major player behind Latapy's treatment leading up to and at the World Cup. The story is that since Jack promised Latapy the coaching job after the world cup when Latapy decided to return to the team, Anton and his father saw to it to undo this arrangement. So the whispering campaign began on Leo and Wim from the time Anton was appointed as assistant in December. I'm sure others have heard this. This is why the Corneals' profile has risen tremendoulsly since the world cup. They have been plotting this for months. Time to uncover the snakes.

The only way to get them (corneals) out is to get out  Oliver Camps  in an election.  But when is the ttff next election ?
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2006, 08:12:37 AM »
Fellahs

I readin this ting with mih mout half open
At the same time trying to discern, what 'was told' to both of you by your source,what is  heresay and your personal speculation

It is a tangled weave and truly disheartning albeit not surprising to read this business

The issue I'm having the most difficulty ingesting is your assertions that Jackula had promised Latapy a senior coaching position but was undermined by Anton.
 It seems to me Jackula runs the show, wholeheartedly, so how is it that a Corneal is able to unravel that decision from a man who has historically thwarted any challenges to his opinions or decisions in classic dictatorial style..especially a decision of that magnitude

Moreover, it's always been my impression that when the players are on the field Beenie was the ultimate decision maker.
As a hired foreign gun, his decisions would be completely objective, thus , again, I'm having some kind of cognitive dissonance as to how any locals would be able to cause a rift beetween him and Latas based on mere tactics of 'whispering the behind the potted palm'....for lack of a better term.

I can certainly believe the tension beetween Jackula and the TD based on political affiliations...or the fact that he feels the TD "is ah PNM"
The small minded and petty people can never beleive in unity, plus, Jackula is a money and power first & foremost kinda fellah

Either way I think some on here agree, in its current form the TTFF is a cancer, in need of a powerful dose of chemotherapy
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2006, 08:33:59 AM »
Anton did not directly unravel Jack's plan, he used Wim and Leo to do that for him. If you remember during Latapy's press conference before the Peru game Latapy mentioned that he would like to coach the team once Leo leaves. That did not go over well with leo because it obviously interferred with whatever plans Leo was hatching with Jack.

Now where Anton comes in is that he made arrangements to be the token local coach with Leo and Wim, both of which would like someone who was compliant so long as he got his way (youth development and assistant roles). In order to clear the way for himself on the coaching front, Anton would have to discredit Latapy as much as possible. A lot of people don't realize that Leo was very dependant on his staff and took counsel quite often. So when Latapy would pace himself in training sessions, instead of Anton saying that was what latapy was doing, he would instead tell Leo and Wim that Latapy is moping and given up because his playing time was reduced. Very nasty stuff.

Now where Jack comes in all this is that as a way to limit the power of others, jack would play people against each other. So he is putting the TD and Alvin against each in order to limit both of their influence. When one is up the other is down. This is classic jack. The politcal affiliation element is the biggest problem though.
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2006, 08:45:03 AM »
Man I had Anton as a cool fellar ,with TnT football front and center ,but it look like he"s just as evil as his dad.This has as much drama as a Shakespear play .And what about the youth programs i was thinking it in safe hands since Anton was a good enough coach,but it seems he never wanted the job,and it just so much manuervering to acquire more power.Maybe Jack should just reshuffle the pack ,and give the corneals what they want oui ,before they distroy everything in there way.Give LP a role in charge of the
Youth scene ,and away from the corneal"s crosshairs.Because what ever problems Jack have with LP he should appreciate ,LP is one of our best footballing minds,and I believe Anton go expose heself soon enough steuppss.

PS Oh maybe daiz why they bring this dutchman ,who going to help Anton with the youth team,so he won"t get expose.
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2006, 08:51:33 AM »

what has anton ever done to be TD and also i remember reading an article that LP appointed AntoN and YouthTD
You got that wrong. Here's Fuentes article.

TTFF appoints Lincoln Phillips Technical Director.

By: Shaun Fuentes.
31-Jan-2004 - Highly regarded and experienced coach, former national goalkeeper Lincoln Phillips has been appointed Technical Director of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF).
Phillip's position was among several confirmed by the Executive Committee of the TTFF following a meeting at its Headquarters on Friday evening.
His appointment comes on the heels of the decision to make Bertille St Clair Head Coach of the National Senior Team for its 2006 World Cup qualifying campaign. Phillips' appointment will be on an itinerant basis for the next six months pending the completion of arrangements for his full relocation to Trinidad and Tobago at the end of June, 2004.
Among other appointments to take effect from February 1, 2004 along with Phillips' include that of Director of Development which was given to Anton Corneal and National Teams' Administrative Manager, given to George Joseph.
A Committee comprising Messrs Raymond Timkee (Sr. Vice President), Richard Groden, (General Secretary) and Jack Warner (Special Adviser) has been appointed to meet with Stuart Charles Fevrier on his return from Mexico to discuss his future Coaching relationship with the Football Federation.
The TTFF also advises that Publicis Caribbean Limited has also been appointed the advertising Agency for the Federation.

Other policy decisions taken include:

A. Messrs Oliver Camps, Richard Groden and Rudolph Thomas have been nominated to attend the FIFA Congress and Centennial Celebrations in Paris from May 20th - 23rd, 2004.

B. The Football Federation will be hosting the undermentioned international events in 2004.

i. Caribbean Qualifying Futsal Competition in April, 2004.
ii. Caribbean Qualifying Women U17 Competition in August, 2004.
iii. Caribbean Qualifying U17 and U20 Boys' Competitions in September and October 2004 respectively.

C. All National Selections in the future must be submitted to the General Secretariat no less than 21 days before the scheduled date of departure for an event nor less than 14 days for the hosting of an event locally.

D. No more complimentary tickets shall be issued in the future for football events of a commercial nature.

E. Authorisation has been given for Bertille St Clair, Head Coach of Team Trinidad & Tobago, to coopt such technical and other assistance that he deems necessary for the successful completion of his exercise.

F. Five new clubs have been selected to replace the five out going clubs from the Super League.

The Super League 2004 will now be comprised of the following clubs:

Bi Water Stokely Vale, WASA Clean & White, Police FC, Maraval Youth Academy, Crab Connection, Club Sando, Caroni FC together with Carib F.C., Joe Public FC, Superstar Rangers, Tobago Phoenix FC and Moruga F.C.

Six of the clubs in the Super League will automatically qualify to participate in the Federation's F.A. Competition.
A meeting has been scheduled with All Sport Promotion to discuss all the measures related to the conduct of the League for 2004.
The Executive Committee has declared that at the end of the 2004 Season and continuing three teams in the Super League shall be demoted to their respective Regional Associations and three teams shall be promoted to the Super League on
the basis of a home and away play off competition involving the Champion Team from each Regional Association.



I swear i read LP gave the green light for anton as youth TD  well i guess i was wrong :-[
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Re: Nightmare overhanging darkly
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2006, 09:26:14 AM »
sigh.


I remember the days when Truetrini myself and a few of the felklahz on the board were battling these ignorant ass Jack supporters... and just feeling shame Trinis could be so blind...


now the man is about to uproot the most solid tree planted in our developing forest.

             The chickens will always come home to roost.  I wish I had been a member during that time to fight dem battles wit allyuh.  Anybody that could defend jack warner is really very...........Nah.  Ah cyah call my fellow Trinis dem kinda names.

     
alvin corneal again? please tell me no.

      Amazing.  And to think that corneal is a member of FIFA'S "Technical Study Group".  The man looks like a walking zombie that could hardly recognize he own self if he look in a mirror.


Not because a man ears long and he teet' long dat it make him a Jackass!

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Re: Nightmare overhanging darkly
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2006, 09:37:54 AM »
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely
 
 
An observation that a person’s sense of morality lessens as his or her power increases. The statement was made by Lord Acton, a British historian of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.     
 
 
The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. Edited by E.D. Hirsch, Jr., Joseph F. Kett, and James Trefil. Copyright © 2002 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved

To comment on the alleged report without being critically informed would be scandalous and  grounds for irresponsible writing. However if these reports are true, I hope that those who are clamouring for political changes, examine how an individual with political aspirations conducts business while in office of the TTFF.


When decisions are made about the future of the country's programs with limited input from others, it begs the question as to what individuals could do with  the power they have assumed. Without any disrespect to the decision on the individual as the present national coach, the part in question is the PROCESS employed in that decision making.

The same questions could be queried about these alleged treatment and actions taken in regards to Mr.Phillips. When would someone take actions to curb the utter mismanagement and  autocratic actions of a few?

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Re: Nightmare overhanging darkly (Lincoln v TTFF & Anton).
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2006, 10:03:18 AM »
Jack is not running a federation. He is running a mafia school, so good fellas like Lincoln will not survive, what I cant understand is how men could work under such conditions, is either the money real good or some secrets are being kept (buried).

Coaches are asses to work for no pay also, how could you work for one year with not pay ? whether you like your job or not you have a family to maintain. Jack think he alone have a family and everyone else must not have a personal life. Jack, I really trying my best to like you, but you does leave us no choice.

My father always say, the longest rope have an end and I am dreaming of the day the TTFF and FIFA fall flat down.

Anton Corneal is the best kiss ass I have seen, since the days of the strike squad. His Dad have something holding over Jack head. Anton also have a good step father on his side Mr Richard Gorden.

Jack how could you have T&T at heart ? have a heart nah ! have some shame nah ! stop being evil nah !
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Re: Nightmare overhanging darkly (Lincoln v TTFF & Anton).
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2006, 10:11:52 AM »
oine of the youth teams have to perform ina major tournament, before anton could make a move man....he could then poke in his head adn say - "I did this" so he deserve to get a bigger position....right now I still remember him as a failure.

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Re: Nightmare overhanging darkly (Lincoln v TTFF & Anton).
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2006, 10:23:29 AM »
Alberta Trini, you would appreciate this and how it applies to Warner. He has crossed the line from being feared to being hated.

The Prince
Nicolo Machiavelli
CHAPTER XVII

Concerning Cruelty And Clemency, And Whether It Is Better To Be Loved Than Feared


...Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with. Because this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life and children, as is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you. And that prince who, relying entirely on their promises, has neglected other precautions, is ruined; because friendships that are obtained by payments, and not by greatness or nobility of mind, may indeed be earned, but they are not secured, and in time of need cannot be relied upon; and men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.

Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred; because he can endure very well being feared whilst he is not hated, which will always be as long as he abstains from the property of his citizens and subjects and from their women. But when it is necessary for him to proceed against the life of someone, he must do it on proper justification and for manifest cause, but above all things he must keep his hands off the property of others, because men more quickly forget the death of their father than the loss of their patrimony. Besides, pretexts for taking away the property are never wanting; for he who has once begun to live by robbery will always find pretexts for seizing what belongs to others; but reasons for taking life, on the contrary, are more difficult to find and sooner lapse. But when a prince is with his army, and has under control a multitude of soldiers, then it is quite necessary for him to disregard the reputation of cruelty, for without it he would never hold his army united or disposed to its duties.

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Re: Nightmare overhanging darkly (Lincoln v TTFF & Anton).
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2006, 10:40:58 AM »
Hopefully those jackasses get whatever personal agendas out of their system and focus on what is important, the future of not just football, but the country as a whole.  Im not very optimistic.  I wonder if they realize how any lives hang in the balance of every stupid decision they make.

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Re: Nightmare overhanging darkly (Lincoln v TTFF & Anton).
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2006, 11:12:44 AM »
I go jus dress back and watch how this unfold.....  :-\ tsk tsk
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Re: Nightmare overhanging darkly (Lincoln v TTFF & Anton).
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2006, 11:30:40 AM »
Don't know in the long run how LP could get a result here, or even a compromise. Government cannot functioning in the runnings of the assoc. So they can't financially or otherwise support him...In the final analysis, I think, only the people, players and it's associiation, can choose to boycott all selections made by TTFF. That is not show up to practice and games, at all levels...therefore the TTFF would be without confidence to Fifa, but yuh know they will find some scabbers...and if this goes on, will definately not be cleared up on the short term...I don't know the procs, but the only alternative I see is LP start his own Fed. and aapply to Fifa for control of the game in T&T, especially with all the support (TTFF boycotts) with the ppl and players of T&T, as well as PFL (if possible). It would mean Jack would be between a Rock and Hard place, but he would have no choice as he cannot be a Rep. of Fifa, without a Team, or country behind him....Form yuh TTFA now LP.

 

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