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Brain drain, Talent drain ???
« on: March 20, 2005, 09:48:52 PM »
One of flex pages..
Check the # of Foreign players

http://www.socawarriors.net/Players_clubs.htm

in addition

http://www.socawarriorssc.com/socawarriors/scripts/college_players.php

Now in the ole days , the community and developing youths as well as students of the game had the oppourtunity to assist each other and exchange and cross-develop their skills through, play and competition..
Every big player may have had a direct contact with aproxx. 40 to 100's of players from around his community, and assist in the overall development of T&T youth.

With so many of our present stronger players away and unable to interact as in the past, who will our youths watch, and get a lil lesson, and tip from...the ones who didn't make it, so won't development and improvement nauturally diminish or detrioate..

Same can be said of migration of many of the brighter stars...or many of our good people...or many of our academic stars etc..etc..

Not all leave, but it reduces our development pool, that T&T in no way can be as strong as we were...especially given our relatively small population on the world scale...

ps: SH, Boca Chica was borse..The fam. is totally rejuv. We on for Victoria weekend, O-35, O45..
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Re: Brain drain, Talent drain ???
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2005, 09:55:13 PM »
Maxg, maybe yuh have ah point.  can the same be said for the crime situation in T&T?  Maybe we have too much old crooks teaching the youth how to be bandit and ting?

Or is just the lack of proper upbringing and the desire for a quick fix/success/easy dollar/gratification without work?

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Re: Brain drain, Talent drain ???
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2005, 10:26:40 PM »
Most certainly...Not counting the future stars that leave at an early age, or children of those ambitious or talented people that are born foreign. Observation + experience + interaction is possibly the best development tool..thus those that stayed observe/exp/int with whom for the most part, tier 2 or 3 players. Most parents spend on avg. 2-5 hrs with their kids, the rest of the time they are working. So the kids interaction for most of their lives is with whom ? In most of our developed society, interaction is not so much as among family as among acquaintances....T&T though would be much more affected due to our size..
 
On a sport level, we cannot say for talented individuals to deny the oppurtunity to advance themselves and remain in a situation wherby the would become frustrated and lost. So they must leave...In the meanwhile, mechanisms must be put into place to ensure they have a niche to return to..If not them and their offspring could become lost forever
To the further detriment of the Country... In my growing up, I was able to see, meet, and talk to many of our National athletes in their prime..
a little tip went a long way..
Today, most of our National athletes live abroad, no interaction, no experience, no discussion, with local youths....unless they come home for a holiday, and then only the immediate family may see them, sometimes..in few cases there is some time spent..not donation of jerseys and balls, but quality time and info. Jersey and balls has it's place

I wil say again, our football problem - inability to maintain a certain level of dominance in our region, is a society and cultural problem..yet there are solutions...but we cannot depend on how it used to be, things cannot not be as it was. We have to aim for a positive evolution.
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Re: Brain drain, Talent drain ??? SYSTEM THINKING
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2005, 08:20:10 AM »
Our honourable leader  from the 60-s Dr.Eric Williams, warned us many atimes about the notion of Brain Drain and the impact on society. What we need to consider though is the economics of aland unable to support those who are searching or those who have a talent to provide.

The opportunities offered abroad to those who are capable should in many ways come back to benefit our society. Does it always work out that way? proably not. But given the country's limited resources, it would seem that if all things being equal, if one could have the same opportunities in Trinidad or Tobago, the question is would they stay at home?

Would an athlete or any individual for that matter with a level of talent or expertise who opted to remain at home , have the same exposure, opportunities for development and growth and 'earning' power if they remained at home?

As much as there appears to be adrain on the said system, which produced them, it is encumbent on the individual to find ways to  come back and contribute his/her acquired knowledge to enhance and develop the growth of that system.

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Re: Brain drain, Talent drain ??? SYSTEM THINKING
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2005, 08:01:36 AM »
Our honourable leader  from the 60-s Dr.Eric Williams, warned us many atimes about the notion of Brain Drain and the impact on society. What we need to consider though is the economics of aland unable to support those who are searching or those who have a talent to provide.

The opportunities offered abroad to those who are capable should in many ways come back to benefit our society. Does it always work out that way? proably not. But given the country's limited resources, it would seem that if all things being equal, if one could have the same opportunities in Trinidad or Tobago, the question is would they stay at home?

Would an athlete or any individual for that matter with a level of talent or expertise who opted to remain at home , have the same exposure, opportunities for development and growth and 'earning' power if they remained at home?

As much as there appears to be adrain on the said system, which produced them, it is encumbent on the individual to find ways to  come back and contribute his/her acquired knowledge to enhance and develop the growth of that system.

maxg , alberta trini I think it goes beyond simply a drain from people departing Trinidad. T&T in general does not lend itself to growth and development, through actively seeking out its own peoples to contribute to the structure. What we have are the same people in power for over 30 years in all aspects of daily life, be it politics, sport, education etc and these people do not want any challenge to their little "kingdom" i mean T&T is the first Nation to recycle. I mean in my life time late 40's. Lequay was always in power for Cricket, Jack for football, Manning for Politics etc. etc.
Many years ago a friend of mine stated that he can see no hope for his children in T&T regardless of their education ( and they are well educated). I mean do we really have to hire Cuban & Nigerian doctors. With all our so called wealth none of you will like to visit Tobago hospital. Even our Prime Minister going for treatment in Cuba?? I know doctors who have returned home to Mount Hope only to be disgusted at the lack of everything concerning the running of that facility.
Look at the multitude of our respected sports men who are not involved in the growth of their respected sports because of bumbling idots that do not want them involved for fear of exposure for the frauds they are. Look how Lequay fought Derek Murry out tooth and nail. Look how Jack killed all attempts at a professional league in 80's, a league run by some of our best business minds of the time. Players were well payed, great crowds etc. Jack made Pioneers football club bring in a big Club and then did not allow the game to play due to sanctioning, it killed interest. All players in the league were banned from International football.  Single handedly he brought the National teams program to a hault from 82---86.
Just look at cycling & track and field today.
Look at the state of education
Look at crime
Look at the Judicial system and the back log.
Look at manufacturing and the export industry
Quite frankly nothing works with the exception of Carnival and some may say crime

For T&t to move forward you need to actively seek out the best minds and invest in their development. Target the areas of greatest need and start there. This is how many Nations built themselves
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US schools to help plug T&T brain drain
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2005, 06:52:13 AM »
By Curtis Williams (Trinidad Guardian)

WASHINGTON DC — A move by some of the top universities in the United States could significantly ease the shortage of professionals in T&T and reduce the country’s brain-drain problem.

The move has been initiated by Howard University’s Career Service office, but includes Harvard, Rice and Stanford universities.

Director of Howard University Career Services department Kim Wells said since the events of September 11, universities had found it increasingly difficult to assist international students to find jobs in the US and as a result had decided to seek opportunities for their students in the global marketplace.

He said: “In a way, this situation allows us here at Howard to fulfil our mandate being a global institution, of providing leadership for the global community and what we are saying is that we have some of the best and brightest students graduating from our university and we are willing to suggest to them that they look at opportunities outside of the US in the global marketplace.”

Wells said the universities had been meeting and working out the best way to meet the new challenge and so far had been successful in developing a network and database of opportunities in Europe which was now available to students.

In an interview at his office in Washington DC, Wells said: “It was only yesterday we met at Johns Hopkins University and were discussing the problem.

“While I am not an immigration expert, it is obvious that since 9/11 companies are reluctant to hire international students because of the additional paperwork required and the increased costs to those companies.”

Wells, who is married to a Trinidadian, said the universities would like to establish a relationship with both the government and local private-sector companies so that companies which might be looking for bright young graduates, or looking for skills which were not readily available might be able to source those skills from the tremendous intellectual capital available at the top US universities.

He said: “If it is the case that T&T’s economy is growing at a tremendous rate and there is a shortage of project managers, of engineers, then we may be able to help because of the number of engineers we produce and people with expertise in all the fields available.”

Wells said, “I understand that there are good reasons for many students not going back, including the formation of significant personal relationships, the opportunities for continued training in the US and the experience of US prosperity and wanting to be part of that.

“But a significant reason is simply students do not know what is available back home.”

He added that the university was now working with the Jamaican government in developing such a database, but had not done so with T&T.
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