FIFA Ranking Thread.

[Midknight]

It never fails.
Well said football supporter.

Almost every host country falls out of the rankings because friendlies aren't counted as high as competitive matches.

In the same way, all European sides that so much as won a game are at an advantage at the moment with the Euros just having finished.

[davidephraim]

It's good for the spreads gentle-people.   

[Brownsugar]

I just glad to see davidephraim and Midknight posting.  Long time no see fellas.  All yuh good??

[Deeks]

fifa rankings are overrated

[theworm2345]

fifa rankings are overrated

As a ranking system, yes they are overrated and pretty much worthless.  However to a player they can be the difference between getting a work permit and not, so in that sense no they are not.

[truehaitian]

Jamaica remains the top-ranked side among Caribbean football teams, according to the FIFA/Coca-Cola world rankings released Wednesday.

Jamaica’s Reggae Boyz rose six spots, and is now ranked 60th in the world.

All | CAF | CONCACAF |
Rnk Zon. Rnk Team Pts +/- Pos
21 1 Mexico 845 -3 Down
33 2 USA 697 3 Up
50 3 Panama 591 4 Up
60 4 Jamaica 515 6 Up
66 5 Costa Rica 487 -4 Down
67 6 El Salvador 481 -3 Down
72 7 Honduras 460 -7 Down
73 8 Canada 454 6 Up
77 9 Haiti 439 3 Up
82 10 Trinidad and Tobago 420 -2 Down
91 11 Guatemala 384 -3 Down
101 12 Antigua and Barbuda 340 -1 Down
102 13 Bermuda 333 18 Up
103 14 Dominican Republic 332 15 Up
113 15 St. Kitts and Nevis 306 0 Equal
122 16 Guyana 276 -13 Down
136 17 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 225 7 Up
137 18 Puerto Rico 210 1 Up
138 19 Suriname 207 -3 Down
139 20 Grenada 206 3 Up
144 21 Nicaragua 195 -5 Down
145 22 Belize 188 -13 Down
147 23 Cuba 175 2 Up
158 24 Aruba 134 -1 Down
161 25 Curaçao 129 4 Up
174 26 Dominica 84 -2 Down
175 27 Barbados 81 -4 Down
178 28 US Virgin Islands 70 0 Equal
180 29 Bahamas 66 0 Equal
181 30 Cayman Islands 65 -5 Down
184 31 St. Lucia 50 3 Up
189 32 British Virgin Islands 40 2 Up
203 33 Anguilla 4 0 Equal
206 34 Montserrat 0 0 Equal

[truehaitian]

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html?intcmp=fifacom_hp_module_ranking

 Oct 2012
   Rnk   Zon. Rnk   Team   Pts   +/- Pos    
   19   1   Mexico   925   2   Up   
   32   2   USA   720   1   Up   
   43   3   Panama   625   7   Up   
   52   4   Jamaica   583   8   Up   
   60   5   Haiti   524   17   Up   
   61   6   Canada   516   12   Up   
   66   7   Honduras   500   6   Up   
   72   8   Costa Rica   465   -6   Down   
   77   9   Trinidad and Tobago   442   5   Up   
   78   10   El Salvador   441   -11   Down   
   81   11   Guatemala   431   10   Up   
   102   12   Dominican Republic   346   1   Up   
   106   13   Antigua and Barbuda   324   -5   Down   
   120   14   Bermuda   277   -18   Down   
   122   15   Guyana   276   0   Equal   
   122   16   St. Kitts and Nevis   276   -9   Down   
   129   17   Puerto Rico   244   8   Up   
   130   18   Suriname   243   8   Up   
   134   19   Grenada   234   5   Up   
   138   20   Nicaragua   210   6   Up   
   143   21   St. Vincent and the Grenadines   190   -7   Down   
   144   22   Belize   188   1   Up   
   146   23   Cuba   179   1   Up   
   151   24   Curaçao   166   10   Up   
   152   25   Barbados   158   23   Up   
   154   26   Aruba   154   4   Up   
   156   27   Dominica   146   18   Up   
   179   28   US Virgin Islands   70   -1   Down   
   181   29   Bahamas   66   -1   Down   
   181   30   Montserrat   66   25   Up   
   183   31   Cayman Islands   65   -2   Down   
   185   32   St. Lucia   55   -1   Down   
   195   33   British Virgin Islands   34   -6   Down   
   204   34   Anguilla   4   -1   Down   
   207   35   Turks and Caicos Islands   0   -1   Down

[D.H.W]

Lol we move up. Is best we doh play

[Deeks]

Fifa rankings are over-rated.

[royal]

Ah see Monsterrat moving up.They not last anymore!!! on another note I see Haiti ranked 39th

Caribbeansports network

Resurgent Haiti have knocked powerhouses Jamaica off the top spot in the latest Caribbean Football Union (CFU) rankings released Wednesday.

The French side, second in the CFU November table, are now the top ranked side in the region after jumping an amazing 18 spots to 39th in the overall FIFA rankings.

Their movement was fueled by their outstanding performance in the recently held CFU Caribbean Cup where they were good enough to reach the semi-finals.

They played unbeaten in the group stages, topping Group A with seven points before falling to eventual champions Cuba in the semi-finals.

Jamaica have fallen six places in the FIFA rankings to 56th but are still number two in CFU.

Their fall comes on the heels of a wretched outing in the Caribbean Cup where they missed out on the semi-finals after finishing bottom of Group B without a single win.

Trinidad & Tobago remain third in the CFU standings despite leaping 11 spots to 68th in FIFA. They did well to reach the final of the Caribbean Cup before losing to Cuba 0-1 last Sunday.

Dominican Republic have held fast in fourth while newly crowned Caribbean champions Cuba have risen from 12th to fifth in the regional rankings. This comes after the Spanish-speaking Caribbean side rose a whopping 41 places in the overall FIFA rankings to 100th.

The Caribbean title was the first ever for Cuba.

 

Caribbean Football Union December rankings

(FIFA Rankings in bracket)

1 Haiti (39)

2 Jamaica (56)

3 Trinidad and Tobago (68)

4 Dominican Republic (93)

5 Cuba (100)

6 Suriname (114)

7 Antigua & Barbuda (115)

8 St Kitts and Nevis (123)

9 Guyana (124)

10 St Vincent & the Grenadines (125)

11 Puerto Rico (132)

12 Grenada (138)

13 Barbados (143)

14 St Lucia (149)

15 Aruba (151)

16 Bermuda (157)

17 Dominica (161)

18 The Bahamas (174)

18 Montserrat (174)

20 Netherland Antilles (177)

21 US Virgin Islands (186)

22 British Virgin Islands (191)

23 Cayman Islands (192)

24 Anguilla (205)

25 Turks and Caicos (207)

[FF]

T&T up 8 places to 69 this month

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html

[D.H.W]

Amazing

[Flex]

Should teams ranking go up only if they beat a team higher in ranking?

For example, T&T 80 vs St Vincent 90

T&T play them a few times this month would that mean T&T ranking will go up?

From WIKI - A points system is used, with points being awarded based on the results of all FIFA-recognised full international matches. Under the existing system, rankings are based on a team's performance over the last four years, with more recent results and more significant matches being more heavily weighted to help reflect the current competitive state of a team.

The ranking system was most recently revamped after the 2006 World Cup, with the first edition of the new series of rankings issued on 12 July 2006. The most significant change is that the rankings are now based on results over the previous four years instead of the previous eight years. The change is perceived to respond to criticisms that the FIFA World Rankings, based upon the previous calculation method in use from January 1999 to June 2006, did not effectively reflect the relative strengths of the national teams.

[Flex]

T&T fall six spots in FIFA rankings to 87th

Caribbean football champions Cuba have made significant gains to remain inside the top 100 of the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking, according to the July edition.

 Cuba leaped nine places to 82nd in the world and eighth in the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF).

The Dominican Republic also moved up four places to 90th in the world.

But Haiti remains the top Caribbean Football Union (CFU) nation in the rankings despite falling six places on the world ranking to 69th.

The Haitians are also ranked sixth with CONCACAF with a total of 522 points.

Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago are also within the top 100 of the ranking. Jamaica (77th, down 28) and T&T (87th, down 6) – are seventh and ninth respectively in CONCACAF.

The top ten of the CFU list is completed by Suriname (109th, up 4), Antigua & Barbuda (122nd, down 1), Grenada (123rd, up 1), Guyana (128th, down 2) and Puerto Rico (131st, down 3).

The next edition of the ranking will be on August 8.

—CMC

[g]

Need a good Gold Cup showing to get into the top 70 and start back getting players eligible for work permits in the UK.

[Socapro]

Need a good Gold Cup showing to get into the top 70 and start back getting players eligible for work permits in the UK.

[de_redman]

Latest Rankings released for August. Up 9 places to 78th.

Rnk Zon. Rnk Team Pts +/- Pos   
 19 1 USA 960 3   
 20 2 Mexico 879 0   
 40 3 Panama 679 11   
 42 4 Costa Rica 651 -3   
 43 5 Honduras 640 12   
 74 6 Haiti 476 -5   
 76 7 Jamaica 469 1   
 78 8 Trinidad and Tobago 452 9    
 83 9 El Salvador 431 11   
 86 10 Dominican Republic 421 4

Points Last Month
MEX - TRI 1:0  0
HON - TRI 0:2  1148.4
TRI - HAI 0:2   0
SLV - TRI 2:2   279.84

[Football supporter]

Latest Rankings released for August. Up 9 places to 78th.

Rnk Zon. Rnk Team Pts +/- Pos   
 19 1 USA 960 3   
 20 2 Mexico 879 0   
 40 3 Panama 679 11   
 42 4 Costa Rica 651 -3   
 43 5 Honduras 640 12   
 74 6 Haiti 476 -5   
 76 7 Jamaica 469 1   
 78 8 Trinidad and Tobago 452 9    
 83 9 El Salvador 431 11   
 86 10 Dominican Republic 421 4

Points Last Month
MEX - TRI 1:0  0
HON - TRI 0:2  1148.4
TRI - HAI 0:2   0
SLV - TRI 2:2   279.84

Moving in the right direction....but slowly!

[Flex]

T&T moves up nine spots on latest FIFA rankings.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago moved nine places up in the latest FIFA World Rankings, jumping to 78th spot according to FIFA latest ratings released today.

Prior to the CONCACAF Gold Cup, T&T were in 88th spot  but after its performance at the Confederation’s showcase event, the “Soca Warriors” made the leap and currently stand in 8th place in CONCACAF.

In addition to the 22 Gold Cup matches played over the last month,  53 friendlies were played in the past five weeks, including 46 in Africa alone, bringing the number of internationals played so far this year to 515.

The top 12 of the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking remains unchanged, with Spain still leading the way ahead of Germany, Colombia, Argentina and the Netherlands.

Movement on the global ladder has nevertheless been provided by the CONCACAF Gold Cup – the continental showdown of teams in North and Central America and the Caribbean – which took place in the USA last month. The Americans, who won their fifth title, have risen three places to 19th on the back of their flawless performance, returning to the top 20 after an absence of two-and-a-half years as the best-placed CONCACAF team at the expense of Mexico (20th, unchanged). The Mexicans lost in the semi-finals of the Gold Cup to Panama, who have climbed 11 places to 40th as a result of their exploits.

TTFA President Raymond Tim Kee commented on the country’s jump in the rankings saying  “It’s quite pleasing for us as a country to have made the progress we did over the past month which attests to the fact that the Senior men’s team performed creditably at the CONCACAF Gold Cup and while we would have aspired to reach further in the tournament, a qualification for the quarter final stage certainly was recognized with our leap in the rankings.

“Of course we will continue to strive for higher heights which means the business of football run by the TTFA continues at a pace not just at the senior level but with our various national youth teams, our women teams and our respective development programs,” Tim Kee said.

T&T’s National Under 15 team will enter the CONCACAF Under 15 Championships in the Cayman Islands from August 14-25. The T&T Women’s Under 17 and Under 20 teams are also engaged in World Cup qualifying action at the CFU level while the Senior Men’s team departs for Riyadh, Saudi Arabia in the first week of September for an invitational tournament as well as a friendly away to Qatar.

[dreamer]

T&T makes jump in latest FIFA ranking.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).

Trinidad and Tobago jumped ahead of Caribbean rivals Jamaica in the latest official FIFA World ranking released earlier today.

The T&T Warriors are now in 81st position with Jamaica slipping four spots in 82nd.

T&T is ranked 9th among CONCACAF nations, while they are 4th in the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) standings. The USA leads the CONCACAF rankings, followed by Mexico and Costa Rica.

T&T’s jump is due largely to the performance at the OSN Cup in Saudi Arabia which included a 3-3 regulation time draw with United Arab Emirates and a 3-1 win over Saudi Arabia. Tuesday’s 0-0 draw with New Zealand is likely to have a positive impact on the next month’s FIFA rankings.

T&T head coach Stephen Hart is not too excited by the jump but knows of the importance of T&T’s move forward.

“Rankings are not something I pay particular attention to but yes it’s good when we can continue to make improvements as we are trying to do at the moment. For the sake of the players who are trying to excel on the international club stage, this is always a plus when the country can improve in the ranking,” Hart told TTFA Media.

“But personally I think our ambition is to continue improving as a team and a football nation. That is what we are setting out to do and the rankings will have its say.”

TTFA President Raymond Tim Kee welcomed the jump over Jamaica, adding “We have set ourselves some goals and making our rise to the top of the Caribbean again is one of those goals and of course improving the standard of our football and our national teams.

The process is an ongoing one and any improvement on our rankings is welcomed. This has some say also on the interest that other international teams will have in us as well and there are benefits for our players in terms of the opportunities that can arise for them to play outside.”

Spain continues to lead the World ranking table, followed by Germany, Argentine is third, Colombia climb to fourth, with Belgium up to fifth. World Cup 2014 hosts Brazil, have dropped 3 places to 11th.

[Deeks]

should we rejoice over this. Ratings eh all that!!!!

[palos]

should we rejoice over this. Ratings eh all that!!!!

The most important part of the rankings is that a higher ranking works in the favour of players seeking foreign contracts.

For that alone, it's something to be happy for.  It's also another positive step for our football in this new administration's tenure.

Rankings in and of themselves are largely immaterial. T&T ranking higher at the moment than Jamaica means diddly squat to me. I would rather have been in the Hex than have a higher FIFA ranking. But that's just me.

[dreamer]

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.

[Tiresais]

If we play and win more competitive friendlies we'll see that top 70 soon

[dreamer]

Lasana, Flex, Tallman & co.,
Any plans for T&T vs international opposition in the new year?
Btw, question for Lasana: Now that several cronies are out of the TTFA, are you welcomed as a journalist now to get more information for the fans? Do you feel more transparency?

[Football supporter]

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.

Yes, but you have to be consistently in the top 70 for two years to open the doors. Appeals can be made, but most UK clubs would not want the hassle. Remember, they have to sign the player before they can apply for a permit, so it's a risk most club's won't take.
Also, FYI, the player has to play 75% of FIFA competetive matches : WC, GC etc. Friendlies don't count!

[FF]

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.

Yes, but you have to be consistently in the top 70 for two years to open the doors. Appeals can be made, but most UK clubs would not want the hassle. Remember, they have to sign the player before they can apply for a permit, so it's a risk most club's won't take.
Also, FYI, the player has to play 75% of FIFA competetive matches : WC, GC etc. Friendlies don't count!

Forget England!

Belgium a lot easier to obtain a work permit and they developing some exciting young players! Hopefully Hyland and Bateau's performances will open doors and turn some heads our way.

[Tiresais]

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.

Yes, but you have to be consistently in the top 70 for two years to open the doors. Appeals can be made, but most UK clubs would not want the hassle. Remember, they have to sign the player before they can apply for a permit, so it's a risk most club's won't take.
Also, FYI, the player has to play 75% of FIFA competetive matches : WC, GC etc. Friendlies don't count!

I thought that clubs could make signings conditional on obtaining a work permit? I've seen a couple stires in the past couple years about players' transfers falling through as they couldn't get the work permit that the move was conditional on.

[Football supporter]

http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
70 was the magic number to get our players into England, barring the other barriers.

Yes, but you have to be consistently in the top 70 for two years to open the doors. Appeals can be made, but most UK clubs would not want the hassle. Remember, they have to sign the player before they can apply for a permit, so it's a risk most club's won't take.
Also, FYI, the player has to play 75% of FIFA competetive matches : WC, GC etc. Friendlies don't count!

I thought that clubs could make signings conditional on obtaining a work permit? I've seen a couple stires in the past couple years about players' transfers falling through as they couldn't get the work permit that the move was conditional on.

Yes, subject to ITC and work permits, but the process, including appeal costs money and takes time. Many clubs would prefer not to take the chance. If you need a striker and you have a four week window to sign him, you wouldn't take a gamble that could leave you without a striker. So, unless it's fairly certain, you would opt for a striker who you know won't be a problem. If the player is desirable, as in the case of Kenwyne, you may go for it and hope!

[Tiresais]

Kenwyne Jones is eligible for citizenship by now anyway (if he hasn't already taken it) so it's a non-factor for European clubs. Does T&T allow dual citizenship?