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Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« on: May 02, 2007, 10:07:01 PM »
Aanensen: Go to arbitration

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Bruce Aanensen, the newly-appointed chief executive officer of the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB), is urging both the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) and national footballers to get an arbitrator to settle the current dispute between the parties over World Cup sponsorship money.

Aanensen was manager of the T&T national team, the Soca Warriors, at last year's FIFA World Cup in Germany. He said it is imperative that the dispute, which has raged on for six months, be settled promptly.

"Go to arbitration," he suggested, when contacted by the Express on Monday. "Let the players' representatives and the T&TFF agree to an arbitration panel and have the matter settled immediately. Each side will present their case to the arbitration panel who will make a ruling. Both parties just have to agree to abide by the ruling."

The retired banker said that as far as he is aware the dispute stems from the cut in World Cup profits which the Federation wanted to give to the players, and he provided an account of some of what was happening behind the scenes.

"Jack (Warner) had promised to give the fellas the spreadsheet from the sponsorship and donations. At first it took a while, and when they finally did get the figures, the fellas (Soca Warriors) thought it was inaccurate. They had questions about a million-dollar donation from Republic Bank which they said was not listed, and they also questioned the low contribution from e-bay.

"Secondly, they argued that the T&TFF had shown a whole list of expenses which was to have been deducted before the profits were shared. After the deductions, they were to be given $141,000 to split up."

Aanensen suggested that the players have a case with their latter query, since there was a document promising them a percentage of earnings.

"The document suggested that whatever the T&TFF got, 30 per cent of that was to have gone to the players. It had nothing about deductions at all."

Aanensen, who has his own problems with West Indies cricket, said that regardless of who was right or wrong, it is now time to settle the matter, as after playing in and making such a favourable impression at the World Cup, it was imperative that Trinidad and Tobago send their best team to the June 6-24 CONCACAF Gold Cup in the United States.

The players who are challenging the T&TFF over their share of the World Cup profits have not been selected on the training squad for next month's Gold Cup.

"The purpose of the Gold Cup is to give teams a guide of where they are before they go into the World Cup qualifiers. If we go into the Gold Cup playing with a second-rate team, it won't make much sense. If there is indeed a blacklist, I don't think it is in the best interest of Trinidad and Tobago football at all," Aanensen said.

"We have guys like Chris Birchall and Kenwyne Jones who are just 22. To condemn these fellas at that age from international football is not good at all for football in the country," he exclaimed.
 

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Re: Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 10:28:16 PM »
Interesting. The current action was taken while he was still manager of the team am I correct? Then what motivated the about turn?
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Re: Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2007, 10:44:42 PM »
Interesting. The current action was taken while he was still manager of the team am I correct? Then what motivated the about turn?
what about turn by him or the players? i believe that he is looking out for the best interest of the players but i think he has teh right way in going out to resolve the matter. jack have to understand taht he will continue to encounter challenges because men getting more vocal because they do not ned trinidad and tobago football after they reach a certain level.
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Re: Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2007, 10:55:23 PM »
My point exactly. As manager this should have been the first option presented. However the TTFF seems to be prepared to take ban the players from duty and claim that they are in the right as far as is possible because the players cannot sue them even though they have just grounds. In fact anansen was one of the members of TTFF that initial discussions were carried out with. He read the statement that the TTFF released after the players decided to protest just before the game against SVG. Hence this change in stance is pleasantly surprising. However i wonder what brought it about.....
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Re: Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 03:41:19 AM »
Lovely, lovely. The strategy is working. The pen is mightier than de sword.  Fellas keep writing and posting especially to the "mainstream media" and to our other sport and cultural icons.

The "influential" folks are coming out of de woodwork now as they are seeing the groundswell of no-nonsense support and they realizing that the safest bandwaggon to be on is the honest/ethical one because somebody go get dey house bun dong jess now! The word is reaching out people. This is exactly what Jackula feared.

Sancho, Sternturninho, "Me mum"-Birch, Jones and de crew, hold on fellas. We behind allyuh and we fightin' down to end because we love we country and we respect we heroes. Doh frighten.

Major major coup by de big banker Aanensen.  Big up, big up to de man!!! 
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Re: Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 05:10:06 AM »

"The document suggested that whatever the T&TFF got, 30 per cent of that was to have gone to the players. It had nothing about deductions at all."


If there is something on paper then is not the verbal agreement they relying on?
The 2003 version of terms and conditions for national team players had something similar but it was 1/3.  I guessing whatever the contracts they signed in April 2006 had the same thing.
Go to binding arbitration.  That is what WIPA and the WICB do.

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Re: Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2007, 11:35:03 AM »
"Secondly, they argued that the T&TFF had shown a whole list of expenses which was to have been deducted before the profits were shared. After the deductions, they were to be given $141,000 to split up."

Aanensen suggested that the players have a case with their latter query, since there was a document promising them a percentage of earnings.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are more bomb-shells that come out of a possible court case against the TTFF and Jack Warner. It would be in their best interest to avoid possible embarrassment and find a mutually amicable solution. They (the players and the TTFF) should agree to either direct talks or arbitration and get the best team on the field for the Gold Cup.

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Re: Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2007, 11:47:06 AM »
No wait....let me read dis again....
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2007, 03:25:09 PM »
They will neva go to arbitration. WICB has lost every round of arbitration because WIPA realllllllll strong. So whoever representin the boys have to be realllllllll good.
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Re: Aanensen: Go to arbitration
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2007, 03:30:57 PM »


The truth shall set you free.....[/b]

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2007, 11:04:18 AM »
Ah meant to respond to this since yesterday....but ah get tie up in wuk....

Ah was going to post a long verse and chorus, but ah just stick with telling de boys have faith....do give up.....

And dat ah still vex wid Dennis Lawrence..... >:(

Also dat we need more like de banker man.....to say what really going on.....dis thing have to stop...


The truth shall set you free.....[/b]

:bringiton: :whew: :arguing:

Fuh real True Warrior.....dis make mih feel like dem boys eh fighting in vain.....good always prevail over evil....ALWAYS!!!....
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

 

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