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Which are you more likely to choose to help raise funds for FPATT?

collection box in bar/office
2 (5.3%)
go to bank to make deposit
3 (7.9%)
attend fundraising match/lime
12 (31.6%)
buy FPATT clothing
5 (13.2%)
donation by post
4 (10.5%)
donation by card via iternet
11 (28.9%)
Would not donate
1 (2.6%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Voting closed: July 30, 2007, 04:00:37 PM

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Re: Warner: FPATT an organisation the TTFF does not recognise.
« Reply #600 on: December 14, 2008, 03:43:53 PM »
right now jack eh recognising nobody ..not Hunt, not Panday, not FPATT, not de Soca Warriors....nobody ! de only ting jack does recognise is $$$, dais why every organisation he was ever involved in he does find himself in de financial section. Since Hunt eh giving him $ without accountability and Panday eh giving him UNC A so he could at least try to get a shot at de minister of finance (keeper of the keys of de  treasury ) wuk and FPATT expose how low he is and trying to take way some of " he " $ , aint no way jack go ever recognise dem.
...But who cares what jack thinks ..only dem jokey reporters dat does go to ah press conference to hear dat jack go tell them what they  want to know when he come back from Japan !

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Re: Warner: FPATT an organisation the TTFF does not recognise.
« Reply #601 on: December 14, 2008, 04:35:29 PM »
If we could only get he 2 recognie dat Mats is a hound we go b in buziness.
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Govt pumps in $3.25m into FPATT.
« Reply #602 on: January 07, 2009, 06:28:49 AM »
Govt pumps in $3.25m.
Football Players Association.
By: Kern De Freitas (Express).


Having fumbled for a way through after humble beginnings, the Football Players Association of Trinidad and Tobago (FPATT) can finally afford to stand on their feet.

FPATT will benefit from a $3.25 million infusion from the Sport and Youth Affairs Ministry to get operations up and running, FPATT president Shaka Hislop revealed yesterday during a press conference at the Nealco Training Centre on Edward Street, Port of Spain.

The financial boost will pump some life back into the Players Association, which has been dormant due to a lack of funds. It involves annual contributions over the next three year periods, after which Sport Minister Gary Hunt said FPATT must become "self-sufficient and self-reliant".

Hislop, the ex-national goal-keeper, who left the country yesterday after flying in the day before for the press conference, thanked Hunt for, "his support, his vision" and the "financial input from his Ministry".

"Every penny will go back into the game," was Hislop's assurance.

The monies promised for the final two years will be granted to FPATT, "predicated upon the receipt of audited statements", a major criterion Hunt has repeatedly demanded from sport organisations benefitting from the Ministry's generosity.

Yesterday, Hunt paid out the first installment, the sum of $1,500,000 to the players association. For the second year they will receive $1 million, and the final payout will be $750,000.

Among FPATT's immediate agenda will be player mobilisation, "to get the Players Association off the ground" according to Hislop.

"We will be focussing on starting a membership drive and establishing a voice for the players," he said, adding that, "...the only tangible assets in football are the players, so the players must have a voice".

FPATT was formed in 2003, and have been at odds with the T&T Football Federation (T&TFF) over players issues for some time. Still, Hislop said FPATT are not "against" the T&TFF, despite "broad and slanderous statements" being made against the Association:

"FPATT is not against the TTFF. We are just here to give the players a voice in the game. I don't know how that translates to being against the T&TFF. I didn't get that translation."

Asked about the money they received from the Ministry last year, Hislop reported that the sum of $99,000 they got was only a loan, and will be repaid from the funds they received yesterday "with some accrued interest, of course".

He also described as "absolute fallacy" claims that the ongoing arbitration involving members of the 2006 World Cup squad and the T&TFF over World Cup bonuses was being paid for by funds provided by the Government.

Hislop said that FPATT will continue to look after players' interests, and referred to insurance for national players at all levels as an important issue. He pointed to an incident where he claimed the T&TFF had given verbal assurance that there would be insurance for senior national players in February last year.

"Lo and behold, when Kenwyne Jones got injured (in June last year versus England), there was a rather embarrassing exchange of words between Roy Keane and Jack Warner over the lack of insurance for Kenwyne Jones."

FPATT are also planning their AGM, which Hislop said is high on their agenda.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2009, 06:44:05 AM by Flex »
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Re: Govt pumps in $3.25m into FPATT.
« Reply #603 on: January 07, 2009, 07:00:55 AM »

The financial boost will pump some life back into the Players Association, which has been dormant due to a lack of funds. It involves annual contributions over the next three year periods, after which Sport Minister Gary Hunt said FPATT must become "self-sufficient and self-reliant".


why de TTFF doh hada be "self-sufficient and self-reliant"


...... seta blasted vampires who feel dey entitled to handouts............

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Re: Govt pumps in $3.25m into FPATT.
« Reply #604 on: January 07, 2009, 08:11:40 AM »

The financial boost will pump some life back into the Players Association, which has been dormant due to a lack of funds. It involves annual contributions over the next three year periods, after which Sport Minister Gary Hunt said FPATT must become "self-sufficient and self-reliant".


why de TTFF doh hada be "self-sufficient and self-reliant"

...... seta blasted vampires who feel dey entitled to handouts............

Everybody but dem d Pro League as well does get less money every yr but d TTFF more or d Min go b a boo boo.


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Re: Govt pumps in $3.25m into FPATT.
« Reply #605 on: January 07, 2009, 08:18:12 AM »
"Hunt is ah c*nt!"


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Question- FPATT
« Reply #606 on: March 24, 2009, 09:03:54 PM »
Are all the clubs in the TnT PRO League required to have their members join this association? FPATT


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Re: Question- FPATT
« Reply #607 on: March 24, 2009, 09:26:24 PM »
Are all the clubs in the TnT PRO League required to have their members join this association? FPATT


the quick answer is no, membership is voluntary.


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Re: Question- FPATT
« Reply #608 on: March 24, 2009, 09:57:25 PM »
Are all the clubs in the TnT PRO League required to have their members join this association? FPATT


the quick answer is no, membership is voluntary.



U beat me 2 it.
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Re: Question- FPATT
« Reply #609 on: March 24, 2009, 10:07:22 PM »
Thanks, I was just wondering.

because I would think for them (FPATT) to work well, they need the TTPL to ensure that all their players are registered, so if they get a national call up, they would have representation when/if problems come up.

Guess the challenge lies with the TTPL though, as I think FPATT is a very important part of the game in TnT.

Hope something is done about it soon

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Re: Question- FPATT
« Reply #610 on: March 24, 2009, 10:28:55 PM »
Thanks, I was just wondering.

because I would think for them (FPATT) to work well, they need the TTPL to ensure that all their players are registered, so if they get a national call up, they would have representation when/if problems come up.

Guess the challenge lies with the TTPL though, as I think FPATT is a very important part of the game in TnT.

Hope something is done about it soon

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Re: Fundraising for FPATT
« Reply #611 on: March 26, 2014, 02:00:34 AM »
Footballers want players association
T&T Express Reports.


The need for a football Player Association was one of the main conclusions coming out of the Pro League’s Player Development Seminar held at Digicel IMAX in Woodbrook last week.

In its continued effort to enhance footballers professionally, on and off the field, the Pro League held the first in a series of planned seminars. Other seminars will include ‘Managing Your Finance’ and ‘Professional Development.’

Entitled “Knowing Your Contract”, last week’s seminar sought to educate players about the intricacies of contracts they sign.

The seminar saw contributions from attorney-at-law, Dave Williams and Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene about the importance of understanding contract arrangements. Williams touched on various aspects of a contract, such as the negotiation of contracts, contractual obligations and termination of contracts, after which players raised their concerns.

Players from W Connection, Central FC, North East Stars, Police FC, San Juan Jabloteh and St. Ann’s Rangers raised questions of salaries, fines, health benefits and player insurance, and freedom of transfers at the end of their contracts.

“I’ve learnt a lot from the exercise,” said veteran W Connection midfielder Silvio Spann. “Although a lot of it was a reminder of what I’ve heard before, being the professional that I’ve been for a length of time, locally and abroad.”

Spann, who has played professionally in Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom, credited W Connection for professionalism and honesty when it came to contractual agreements, but believes there is an urgent need for a players’ association.

“One of the most important things I’ve learned from this seminar is that players need a players’ association,” added Spann.

“It’s vital, and I think the information gathered today in terms of the questions asked by players, calls for a Players’ Association. Players are really hurting deep inside and some of the questions need to be addressed,” Spann said. “The knowledge we have gained here today would have switched that light on, in terms of taking their questions and concerns through the proper structure.”

Main speaker Williams told players to make sure they understand it fully before signing any contract document because they have to live by the terms of what they sign.

“Read the terms of your contract,” said Tobago-born attorney Williams . “If it doesn’t have a good explanation or you don’t understand your contract, just don’t sign it. Seek independent advice. It can be from anyone; a legal person, a family member, an agent, or whoever.”

Williams further reminded players of the existence of a Player Status Committee, an independent body, which has dealt with concerns in an expeditious manner, and will continue to do so, once issues are brought to the attention of the League formally.

Meanwhile, Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene also felt a well-informed player would help produce a better product on the field.

“You cannot consider yourself a serious professional footballer if you fail to, or, refuse to take your contract seriously,” Skeene said. “You cannot be serious about your career if your attitude is, I have an agent, manager or coach to deal with that. Professional football is serious business.”

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #612 on: March 26, 2014, 10:41:25 AM »
Very encouraging discussion and developments. Wonder how many players were there.
Players could finally be waking up if they take this seriously.

Next to be tackled is player marketing and image management especially for international trials.
How to avoid the outcomes like what happened to Joevin Jones.
Gotta look hungry and look serious and look immune to the cut-throat competition and mind games of marginalization when venturing abroad especially as a newbee.
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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #613 on: March 26, 2014, 11:09:53 AM »
"Players from W Connection, Central FC, North East Stars, Police FC, San Juan Jabloteh and St. Ann’s Rangers raised questions of salaries, fines, health benefits and player insurance, and freedom of transfers at the end of their contracts."

How does the Governmnt service teams operate in the scheme of things. Are they in or Not in the service ?

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #614 on: March 26, 2014, 02:10:42 PM »
Surprise the Police players are there. They are covered by the government. But in the overall scheme of things, they are players who playing in the pro-league. So I think it is indeed benefitial that they are there. But there must be some clarification as to where the government teams stand.

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #615 on: December 19, 2015, 05:27:15 AM »
Eve calls on FPATT to help Soca Warriors.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


Former national midfielder now turned coach Angus Eve is calling on the Football Players Association of T&T (FPATT) to come to the assistance of the Soca Warriors now.

The footballers are locked in talks with the T&T Football Association (TTFA) over match fees for the Concacaf Gold Cup, the International Friendly match with Nicaragua, the World Cup Qualifier against Guatemala on November 13 and the game against the United States here at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on November 17.

On Wednesday, the board of directors of the TTFA formed a three-member committee to address the issue of payments to the players and they are to meet with the players’ representative Jan Michael Williams or Kenwyne Jones this week.   

The FPATT was formed in 2007 out of a similar battle for monies owed to the players from the TTFA and then special adviser Jack Warner regarding the 2006 World Cup campaign.

Among the items the organisation had promised to negotiate with the authorities on behalf of the players were: match fees  insurance for the players; to provide a vehicle to facilitate collective bargaining on behalf of the membership including pre-set international appearance fees; a maximum standard contract of employment for professional footballers and youth players; security for clubs and players; a system that would offer access free legal advice and the implemention of a professional footballers group pension scheme, among many others.

Contacted yesterday, Eve called on the FPATT to assist the players, saying both Michael Williams and Jones should not have to be representing the players now. According to the St Ann’s Rangers coach a number of players were at the forefront when the organisation was formed, such as Central FC managing director Brent Sancho, former national goalkeeper Shaka Hislop and another goalkeeper Kelvin Jack.

Eve said: “As soon as those players were paid by TTFA and the government their World Cup monies, it seem as though FPATT became non-functional. I have not heard from FPATT after monies were paid to those players and the sad thing is that we have a situation similar to what happened back in 2006 here.”

According to Eve, the coach of Naparima College, the reigning InterCol and premiership champion school team: “Players are not supposed to be fighting battles to be paid. What that does is take away from their focus on the game. This is why players have managers and agents and its what FPTT should be doing.”

He told the T&T Guardian he felt disappointed by the latest episode of players having to fight for money that belonged to them.

“When a player enters a national team, a number of things must be listed out to him, such as how much he will earn in match fees among many other things. It cannot be like now where players have to lobby for match fees months after the game because when players leave their professional clubs to represent their country, they are putting themselves at risk of getting injured,” Eve said.

He added: “I have seen a situation where a TT player left his club to represent his country and he was injured in a match and eventually lost his contract. Now if players are not properly compensated for their service while on national duty, what will happen to them?” Eve asked. Attempts to reach Sancho, Jack or Hislop proved futile.

Some of the  FPATT objectives​

1. To provide an elected representative body that can address the concerns of professional footballers in T&T.

2. To achieve 100 per cent membership of professional footballers in T&T.

3. To provide professional footballers with the ability through a representative body to help govern and shape the future of profesional football in T&T.

4. To provide a vehicle to facilitate collective bargaining on behalf of the membership including pre-set international appearance fees.

5. To provide a maximum standard contract of employement for professional footballers and youth players to provide security for clubs and players alike and to give players access to free legal advice.

6. To arrange sponsorship and funding to put into place insurance for players in case of career ending injuries.

7. To work alongside TTFF to help encourage football in the community projects to help to increase the attraction of the professional game in T&T with both supporters and prospective players.

8. To arrange an affordable professional footballers group pension scheme with the long term aim of clubs contributing on behalf of players.

9. To provide education and advice to assist players leaving the game to obtain new careers outside football.

10. To liaise with FIFPRO and the other CONCACAF players associations to develop similar working practices across the region, improving the attraction of football as a profession and increasing the standards of professional football in the Caribbean.

11. To lobby for changes in the governing of the game at all levels to provide financial transparency.

12. To provide player representation for the benefit of players and clubs alike, to reduce much needed finances going to outside parties, and to arrange in association with the TTFF more stringent agent licensing.​

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #616 on: December 22, 2015, 12:59:21 PM »
Does FPATT still exist?
If it does, who's at the helm?
If not, is it being reborn to function again?
That's one vote that needs to be counted along with the coaches association vote during TTFA elections.
Represent people. Daiz 2 votes that could protect the country's football future in the next rongs and also now.
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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #617 on: December 22, 2015, 02:32:53 PM »
Does FPATT still exist?
If it does, who's at the helm?
If not, is it being reborn to function again?
That's one vote that needs to be counted along with the coaches association vote during TTFA elections.
Represent people. Daiz 2 votes that could protect the country's football future in the next rongs and also now.

There is a vote reserved for the Players Association (but not coaches) once they become functional... but FPATT in trouble.  Harrison find a new horse to ride and so he's gone from advocating on behalf of players, to being part of management now.  Not only that, but Shaka, who was the un/official President of FPATT, allegedly offered his services to Kenwyne and the current players and they tell him "thanks eh, but no thanks."

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #618 on: December 22, 2015, 06:10:29 PM »
Does FPATT still exist?
If it does, who's at the helm?
If not, is it being reborn to function again?
That's one vote that needs to be counted along with the coaches association vote during TTFA elections.
Represent people. Daiz 2 votes that could protect the country's football future in the next rongs and also now.

There is a vote reserved for the Players Association (but not coaches) once they become functional... but FPATT in trouble.  Harrison find a new horse to ride and so he's gone from advocating on behalf of players, to being part of management now.  Not only that, but Shaka, who was the un/official President of FPATT, allegedly offered his services to Kenwyne and the current players and they tell him "thanks eh, but no thanks."
harrison found a new horse to ride. that was cute.  :laugh:

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #619 on: January 26, 2016, 11:43:11 AM »
Just received some photos of the Fifpro Americas tournament in progress in Costa Rica. Makes me smh. No seat at the table. Lost opportunities.

There was a recent initiative in Panama by the players' union. Will update with details shortly.

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« Reply #620 on: February 27, 2016, 03:05:59 AM »
Just received some photos of the Fifpro Americas tournament in progress in Costa Rica. Makes me smh. No seat at the table. Lost opportunities.

There was a recent initiative in Panama by the players' union. Will update with details shortly.

A player who was involved in this tourney shed more light ... Several of the participants were unemployed players seeking new clubs. The tournament provided them a platform to be seen and to find a new employer. It can't be emphasised enough how much participating in an event such as this could be of benefit to T&T players in transition.

Players have to pull together to see this ...

Anyhow, I asked (a FIFPRO Americas member country admin person) for a figure regarding the success rate in finding a club via this means ... It did not exceed 40% ... which means many players face unplanned periods of inactivity.

Examining the domestic transfer market within the Pro League and Super League, one sees some movement that merits asking other questions.

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #621 on: March 29, 2016, 08:51:12 PM »
A Challenge to Soccer’s Version of Solitary Confinement
By Sam Borden, The New York Times


TIRANA, Albania — Sebino Plaku, a player for the Polish professional soccer team Slask Wroclaw, sat across a small desk from the club’s president and vice president.

It was Aug. 28, 2014. The two club officials, Mr. Plaku said, presented him with a document that was an “annex” to his contract with the team. The team, the executives told Mr. Plaku, wanted to immediately reduce his monthly salary by more than 50 percent. They told Mr. Plaku, an Albanian, that he had 20 minutes to decide whether to accept.

Then, Mr. Plaku said, the president — speaking Polish and using the vice president as his English interpreter — delivered a message: “If you don’t sign this,” he said, according to Mr. Plaku, “we will destroy your career.”

Mr. Plaku refused. What followed, he has claimed in an arbitration case against the club, was roughly five months of isolation, humiliation, psychological abuse and intimidation, all of which combined to derail his professional career.

According to player advocacy groups, Mr. Plaku’s case is emblematic of a widespread labor issue in Europe in which players are given the choice between bending to their employers’ demands or enduring harsh, punitive training regimens. The practice is known by the catchall term training alone, and it is regarded as soccer’s version of solitary confinement.

“It is physical torture and it is psychological torture,” said Dejan Stefanovic, a former player who now leads Slovenia’s players’ union. “And it happens everywhere.”

Accusations of players being forced to train alone have been reported in virtually every country in Europe — from marquee teams like Chelsea and Manchester United to minor ones like Slask Wroclaw — and player advocates say the cases that go unreported are most likely innumerable given that many players stay quiet for fear of losing their positions altogether. Typically, clubs that separate players from their teammates do so over money — because the player will not sign a contract extension, or he refuses to allow the club to terminate a contract early or modify its terms.

In Poland, training alone is so common it even has a nickname: the Coconut Club, named after Daniel Kokosinski, a player who endured the treatment in 2009. (“Kokos” means “coconut” in Polish.)

Mr. Plaku said he had been forced to train three times a day (alone, and often without time to eat between sessions); required to do excessive running; fined thousands of euros if he was even 30 seconds late for a training session; and made to take part in demeaning activities like changing in the boys’ teams’ locker room or standing in the city center for hours to hand out newspapers.

Slask Wroclaw, which is based in southwest Poland, has defended its actions by saying that Mr. Plaku’s fitness was not sufficient for him to be a part of its top team any longer. (Mr. Plaku, 30, who is currently playing for a first-division club in Albania, dismissed that claim as “ridiculous.”)

Slask Wroclaw’s president, Pawel Zelem, did not respond to questions about his involvement in the case. Krzysztof Swiercz, a spokesman for Slask Wroclaw, agreed to a brief telephone interview in which he said that the club had “nothing to blame ourselves for.”

“There are many professional players who train twice or thrice a day and never complain; they are professionals in every way,” Mr. Swiercz continued. “There are people who work in factories for 13 hours a day and get paid 1,000 zlotys per month, and they don’t complain. So do you really think Plaku has anything to complain about?” The amount of Polish zlotys he referred to is equivalent to about $263.

Mr. Swiercz added that on Sundays — “as the law states” — Mr. Plaku had the day off.

A tribunal for Poland’s soccer federation ultimately dissolved Mr. Plaku’s contract with Slask Wroclaw but did not assign blame, which allowed the club to avoid paying Mr. Plaku the balance of his salary (about $222,000 in lost wages). Mr. Plaku has appealed, taking the matter to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, an international organization that adjudicates cases related to athletics. A decision is expected as soon as this week.

In Western Europe, accusations that clubs have treated players in a similar manner are common. Nicolai Boilesen, who was the captain of the Dutch club Ajax last season, was separated from the first team this year after refusing to sign a contract extension. Ajax’s coach, Frank de Boer, has been quoted as saying: “Nicolai made his choice. If you do not accept the offer that we make, then you have to suffer the consequences.”

In Eastern Europe, the problem is more pervasive. Results of a 2012 player survey conducted by FIFPro, the international players’ union, found that in 12 Eastern European countries, roughly one in six players reported having been forced to train alone, while about 40 percent of players in Poland specifically said they knew of at least one such incident.

Mr. Stefanovic, the Slovene player representative, said the survey offered only “a hint” of how common such intimidation tactics were. He cited the case of the Serbian midfielder Andrija Zivkovic, one of the continent’s most promising young players, who starred at the FIFA U nder-20 World Cup last year and was a centerpiece of the decorated team Partizan Belgrade.

Earlier this year, Mr. Zivkovic, 19, refused to sign a contract extension with Partizan after drawing interest from richer clubs abroad, Mr. Stefanovic said. He was summarily sent home from the club’s training camp and has since been barred  from practicing with the first team.

“He’s literally running circles by himself,” Mr. Stefanovic said. “If this happens to one of the best players, imagine what is happening to the other poor guys.”

Much of the problem, Mr. Stefanovic said, is a lack of standard professional contracts for players. Mr. Stefanovic said that in Romania, for example, players are typically assets of the club, which means that even if a club goes bankrupt, players are not allowed to find new clubs because all assets are frozen.

Mr. Stefanovic added that as far back as 2011, FIFPro, which represents players’ interests but lacks collective bargaining power or leverage with individual leagues, had asked European soccer’s governing body, UEFA, to consider making standard contracts a requirement. The union has seen no progress, he said, adding, “The problem is getting worse, not better.”

According to Maciej Krzeminski, a lawyer for the Polish players’ union, Mr. Plaku’s case is typical. Mr. Plaku was a star growing up here and played for Albania’s national youth teams.

Early in the 2014-15 season, after Mr. Plaku sustained a minor injury while playing for Slask Wroclaw, he said he was called into Mr. Zelem’s office for the meeting in which he was told to sign the reduced-value contract. After he declined, he said, the intimidation from the club began.

Running and physical exertion were constant, he said, but psychological punishment was significant as well.

Most days he was at the club 12 or 13 hours, stopping only for short breaks between sessions. He was not allowed to eat with the first team. Some days he was allowed to play with the reserves, but when he scored two goals in one match, he said, he was pulled from the game and the coach told him, “Sebi, if you score too many goals, it’s not good for me.”

Mr. Plaku was separated from his team for about five months, he said, before his contract was terminated by the Polish federation in February 2015. At that point, he was free to sign with another team, but the transfer window in Europe was closed until the summer. The damage to his career had been done, he said.

“Now I am close to 31 — it will be difficult to make a step forward,” he said.

He shrugged. “I thought it was going to be the best part of my career,” he said. “It turned out to be the worst.”

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #622 on: February 17, 2020, 05:34:08 PM »
Is FPATT coming back as Kelvin Jack is now part of the TTFA?

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Re: FPATT Thread
« Reply #623 on: February 17, 2020, 08:14:49 PM »
As yuh mention Kelvin Jack ... Iker Casillas just lick a shot that will probably recast how things are set in the RFEF.  He's going to stand in opposition to the incumbent, Rubiales  ... and leh me tell yuh, Iker is making Buttigieg's sidelining of Biden look like child's play. The news is not even a full day old and he's already the overwhelming leader in informal polling.  Overwhelming=Rubiales is polling under 10% and Iker is hovering around 90%. And dahis with a good 40,000 having expressed their opinion.

In terms of the internal stakeholders he is well-placed to make this happen.

As far as FPATT and Kelvin ... Kelvin focus on your GK department. The players association leadership has to be fomented elsewhere ...  once fomented, yuh can bring guidance, if needed. 

Other improvements in the overall architecture of football outside of the federation are necessary before FPATT can really bubble de way de pot is supposed to bubble.

Ah know yuh can multitask but please multitask with the GKs. Soon enough the current players will bounce their collective heads. By then ah hoping you would have harnessed the GKs we deserve.   
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