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Re: Kits
« Reply #600 on: June 16, 2019, 04:16:08 PM »
Go back to Joma? Hmmmm, no?

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« Reply #601 on: June 16, 2019, 05:07:06 PM »
Go back to Joma? Hmmmm, no?

Then Capelli is we official uniform?
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Re: Kits Thread.
« Reply #602 on: February 26, 2020, 07:11:15 AM »
TTFA confirms landmark kit agreement.
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The Trinidad & Tobago Football Association (TTFA) has secured the largest commercial technical kit deal since qualification for the 2006 FIFA World Cup with a contract valued at TT$25million over the next four-years.

The agreement with international supplier Avec, reflects an association with a proven and experienced brand which has supplied many globally recognised English clubs over the years, such as Crystal Palace, Sunderland, Sheffield United and Bradford City alongside many others in the English and Scottish Football Leagues.

Avec’s history of supplying technical playing and training kit to all levels and age groups from the English Premier League through to academies, schools and colleges has been an important consideration in establishing this new association.

The contract will commence in June 2020 and Avec will supply premium playing kit and training wear to all TTFA representative sides including the men’s and women’s senior sides and all age group categories.

The new range will also be available to fans through physical and online retail outlets meaning fans will be able to wear the same designs of playing and training wear worn by all representative teams.

TTFA President, William Wallace said: “The level of this partnership reflects a landmark moment for the TTFA and we are delighted with the outcome. The challenge was to find a new apparel partner who could provide the best possible commercial outcome and ensure a smooth supply of apparel to every single team on our roster. The search was comprehensive, but our unanimous conclusion was that Avec offered an overall proposition that was a perfect fit in all aspects.

“We now have a deal in place which offers unrivalled terms for the supply of kit at all levels and a Partner who will be agile and responsive to our playing and retail requirements at any given moment.

“This type of deal is unprecedented in the TTFA’s history. It is a completely fresh and exciting Partnership which sits perfectly as part of the new era for Trinidad and Tobago football.”

Avec Sport Chairman, Peter Crawford said: “We are delighted to become the Official Kit Partners to the TTFA National Teams. We truly believe this is an exciting time to be involved with the TTFA and a fantastic opportunity to work across all levels of the national side.

“We are proud that the Avec brand has been chosen to supply the TTFA in what is our first International Partnership, especially with the overall project that is now starting to take place under the new administration, which was something we really wanted to be a part of.   

“We are looking forward to creating and developing the new Kits and Training Wear for the Soca Warriors, and we look forward to ensuring we develop a design that supporters can wear with pride.

“We hope the partnership will bring success both on and off the pitch.”

Video - TTFA Confirms landmark Kit Agreement with Avec

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« Reply #603 on: February 26, 2020, 07:28:24 AM »
 :beermug: I imagine d where d nike deal questions will surface again but Wallace and dem shoulda keep dat card close to dey  chest or get  permission to reveal it
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« Reply #604 on: February 26, 2020, 03:39:39 PM »
Congrats on the new deal. I never paid much attention to that Nike deal because I know nothing is never set until you sign the dotted line regardless of what promises were made.

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« Reply #605 on: March 16, 2020, 06:07:17 PM »
TTFA’s muddy kit deal reflects a federation that has spiralled out of financial control.
By Paul Nicholson (insideworldfootball).


The financial crisis that has engulfed the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) since the election of its new president William Wallace looks unlikely to be eased by the federation’s new kit deal with little known UK appareil company AVEC.

A copy of the ‘Kit Supply Agreement’ signed between the TTFA and AVEC, and seen by Insideworldfootball, states that the federation must, every year of the four-year deal, sell at least 7,500 replica shirts (via its retail partner) as well as spend £125,000 on equipment with AVEC before it can receive any of its national team kit free of charge.

If the targets are not met, the TTFA has to buy its national team match day kit and training kit at the full retail price. All monies are to be paid to AVEC in advance.

Surprisingly AVEC is not paying any license fee to the TTFA for the exclusive use of its logo and marks.

Wallace said that the deal with AVEC was worth TT$25 million to the TTFA but that looks like a difficult figure to substantiate for a deal that looks more likely to cost the TTFA money than make it any.

One kit manufacturer from the UK who wished to remain anonymous, said that it was the kind of kit deal you would associate with an amateur club or local association or league in the UK, and was probably the worst he had ever seen for a national association competing in regional and world competition with the tradition and history of the TTFA.

Nevertheless, the new TTFA has paraded the deal as proof that financially everything is on the right track.

Extract from TTFA/AVEC kit supply agreement

5.6 The Gifted Pro Kit Allowance is given on the agreement between both parties that:

a) the Approved Retail Partner, or such other retail partner(s), as may be notified by the Association to the company in writing (the "Other Retail Partners") will purchase a minimum of 7,500 replica shirts in each contract year from the company; and

b) the Association's sponsors will purchase in each Contract Year a minimum of £125,000 worth of other products at wholesale values, such other products shall include items from the Exclusive Products (but not including the Gifted Pro Kit Allowance) and any other items which appear on the Company's wholesale price list from time to time, and/or any other items made available by the Company from time to time,

and in the event the Approved Retail Partner, the Other Retail Partners or the Association's sponsors fail to reach the minimum purchase requirements under the clause 5.6, the Association agrees to pay the company the full value of the Gifted Pro Kit Allowance already received by the Association
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The TTFA is currently TT$50 million in debt and is in court again today (Monday) facing a garnishee order that has frozen its accounts, leaving it unable to use what little funds it has available in its accounts.

As part of Wallace’s election manifesto that saw him and his United TTFA slate of candidates swept into power, was the statement that a deal with Nike was in the wings. That deal never materialised.

Prior to the AVEC agreement, TTFA’s previous kit sponsor was US fashion brand Cappelli that has been building a position in football kit provision. Cappelli paid a signing-on bonus to the TTFA as well as providing kit free of charge in a deal that covered the Concacaf Gold Cup 2019 and the warm up series held in Japan.

Asked how that kit deal was negotiated, Selby Brown, then a TTFA Board Member and Member of the Emergency Committee, said: “The TTFA Emergency Committee ensured transparency of the tender process by instructing the General Secretary to issue a (rfq) request to several Kit Sponsors for quotation with specific quantities, conditions and timelines with a deadline for submission.

“The list of Kit Sponsors submitted their response to the TTFA RFQ included JOMA, Macron, Puma, Capelli and others.

“The TTFA Emergency Committee reviewed, evaluated and selected Capelli Sport Limited as the successful TTFA Kit Sponsor Partner for the CONCACAF Gold Cup 2019 based on the best quotation conditions which included the following:

1. The Kit supply was at no cost to the TTFA and included a signing bonus paid to the TTFA by Capelli Sports Limited.

2. The term of the contract period was for the duration of the CONCACAF Gold Cup.
The selection of the Emergency Committee was presented to the TTFA Board of Directors for ratification in keeping with the Constitution of the TTFA.”

It is understood that Cappelli were approached by the TTFA but declined to submit a bid.

Browne is sceptical of the process in the award of the new kit contract: “In my capacity as President of the Veteran Footballers Foundation of TT a member of the TTFA in good standing, it would be interesting to discover the process by which the TTFA – Avec Kit Sponsorship Agreement was determined,” he said.

What is more pressing today for the TTFA is facing up to the garnishee order in court. At the last hearing on the order the TTFA failed to turn up. That will not have helped the TTFA in the rearranged hearing set for today. For the TTFA and Wallace the hearing could prove pivotal for the federation’s future. If its accounts are unfrozen it has an opportunity to continue operations. If not, then the it is hard to see where it will ever find the money to buy its next kit.


Contact the writer of this story at moc.llabtoofdlrowedisni@noslohcin.luap

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Re: Kits Thread.
« Reply #606 on: March 16, 2020, 06:23:25 PM »
This propoganda man again.

Flex why you giving this misinformation ah channel?

Nasty man Selby Browne again
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« Reply #607 on: March 16, 2020, 09:40:50 PM »
This propoganda man again.

Flex why you giving this misinformation ah channel?

Nasty man Selby Browne again

Honest question....lil confused by Selby's statment bout the Veteran's Assoc.

Does this Assoc. actually exist as an acting body?

Wasn't there a story that the group, whether formal or informal, don't recognize him as their representative/president?

And,
if they do not exist in this capacity, why are the members or persons he probably represents, allowing him to speak for him on their behalf if they do not recoginze him? ---say the strike squad and any possible...

just curious how he got this role too....

no rab, honest curiosity and cant find info on it

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Re: Kits Thread.
« Reply #608 on: March 17, 2020, 07:24:39 AM »
This propoganda man again.

Flex why you giving this misinformation ah channel?

Nasty man Selby Browne again

I hear you bro... !!!!

You might be on to something, that deal sound to stupid for the TTFA to accept.

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« Reply #609 on: March 17, 2020, 07:34:37 AM »
It so disingenuous because according to the clause a) the Approved Retail Partner, or such other retail partner(s), as may be notified by the Association to the company in writing (the "Other Retail Partners") will purchase a minimum of 7,500 replica shirts in each contract year

The retail partner is Sports & Games.
So it is incumbent on Sports & Games to purchase these replicas for resale. I imagine TTFA has a contract with Sports & Games.

7,500 replicas is nothing when you consider all the sizes youth, women etc.

This is a whole pack of nonsense.
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« Reply #610 on: March 17, 2020, 02:49:06 PM »
Uniforms is the least of our problem. Maybe the normalization committee will resolve that problem.

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« Reply #611 on: March 18, 2020, 06:41:25 AM »
This propoganda man again.

Flex why you giving this misinformation ah channel?

Nasty man Selby Browne again


Photo: Facebook post by ex-TTFA board member Selby Browne on the eve of Fifa’s decision to implement a normalisation committee on 17 March 2020.

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Avec Sports uniforms, gear set to arrive June 1
« Reply #612 on: May 12, 2020, 07:19:03 PM »
Avec Sports uniforms, gear set to arrive June 1
By Walter Alibey (pushinglimits.net)


The first batch of football uniforms and gear to officially jumpstart the deal between UK sportswear supplier Avec Sports and the ousted T&T Football Association under president William Wallace is set to arrive in T&T on June 1.

However, Wallace who is one of two signatures on the contract, is already counting it a lost cause, saying the world governing body for the sport - FIFA, with whom they are battling to remove the Normalisation Committee which was appointed on March 27, has already rejected the sponsorship money because of the involvement of him (Wallace) and his vice presidents Clynt Taylor, Sam Phillips and Susan Joseph-Warrick. The first part of the deal will entitle the shipment of uniforms and gear to outfit all the country's national teams at a value of $1.4 million.

Thereafter the embattled football association will be required to sell £$125,000 or 7,500 replica shirts and other gear for the UK company, and the profit from the sales will be shared 80 for Avec and 20 per cent for the TTFA and Sports and Games, the local distributors.

On Tuesday, Robert Hadad, chairman of the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee said he had no comment on the matter via a Whatsapp message.

When contacted Wallace said Hadad has received orders to reject any help deal that was created through the previous Wallace administration.

Wallace said that because they are being considered persona non grata by Hadad and the FIFA, that five other potential contracts that can provide much-needed financial assistance to T&T football have been turned down, including Caribbean Chemicals and Agencies Limited which had decided to pump $1.5 million a year for four years to properly maintain football fields but pulled out of the deal on March 19, while four others which were to be confirmed fell apart after FIFA's Normalization committee was announced.

Guardian Media Sports understands that the TTFA was expected to sign other sponsorship arrangements last March.

Wallace who is also president of the Secondary Schools Football League (SSFL) dismissed a claim by former Guyana Football Federation president Clinton Urling that in the case of a normalization committee, the FIFA will provide the funding upon the implementation of a programme to liquidate the debt etc.

Wallace instead referred to one of the mandates of the normalization committee which is to establish a debt repayment plan that is implementable by the TTFA, saying the FIFA never said it will pay off the football association debt.

“I will withdraw my fight with the FIFA in the morning if the FIFA uses its money to clear the debt,” Wallace said.

At present, the TTFA has no uniforms with the expiration of the Joma kit deal in 2018 and the tournament deal with Capelli which was just for the Gold Cup (June 15 to July 7, 2019) could find itself in a mad rush for uniforms with the FIFA World Cup qualifiers, the CONCACAF Gold Cup and other qualifiers and matches to begin soon.

Wallace in a presentation to jumpstart his campaign for TTFA ascendency early last year, listed several sponsorship deals that would come to fruition only once he became TTFA president, inclusive of the contract with world sportswear giants Nike. Yesterday Wallace admitted that the Nike deal was a legit one that was only hampered by people who claim to love the sport but were doing everything in their power to destroy it.

CONCACAF's senior counsel for North American Sports Marketing Zoe Braithwaite said in a release last year that there was no deal between the United T&TFA and global sporting apparel giant Nike.
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« Reply #613 on: May 16, 2020, 01:46:50 PM »
"and the profit from the sales will be shared 80 for Avec and 20 per cent for the TTFA and Sports and Games, the local distributors."


That split just scary looking! wtf

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« Reply #614 on: May 16, 2020, 03:53:51 PM »
Azzurri. Why is that scary!? The kit supplier is taking all the risk and providing all the Kit.


Top level professional clubs will traditionally receive an annual fee and then 10-15% of the revenue the kit manufacturer generates from shirt sales.
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« Reply #615 on: May 16, 2020, 03:58:49 PM »
Don't fall for these disgusting Trinis with an agenda. They counting on ignorance and apathy.
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TTFA, Avec uniform deal in limbo
« Reply #616 on: May 23, 2020, 05:54:59 PM »
TTFA, Avec uniform deal in limbo
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian)


The administrators of T&T football, the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee which is headed by its chairman Robert Hadad and comprises retired banker Nigel Romano and Attorney Judy Daniel, could be bracing for the backlash if the Avec Sports deal is not honoured.

The four-year TT$25 million contracts with the English sportswear suppliers was signed in January with the TTFA and is scheduled to officially take effect on June 1 with the first batch of uniforms set to arrive in T&T.

However, so far, the deal has fallen through because the normalization committee appears reluctant to fulfil the agreement.

In a Guardian Media Sports story a week ago, it was revealed that the uniforms which are to outfit all the country's national teams, from youth to senior level are expected in T&T on Monday 1 June, but the Normalisation Committee acting on the advice of the world governing body for the sport- the FIFA, may not accept it.

FIFA is in a legal battle with the former T&T Football Association members — former president William Wallace and his three vice presidents Clynt Taylor, Joseph Sam Phillip and Susan Joseph-Warrick for its decision to appoint a normalization committee to replace them as the administrators of local football on March 17.

On Monday Wallace and his team took their fight to the High Court in Port-of-Spain after they felt the Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS), the only avenue for Member Associations of the FIFA to receive justice, appeared to have been biased in its handlings of the arbitral proceedings between the parties. Wallace's team of lawyers Dr Emir Crowne and Matthew Gayle in a six-page document on Monday said that CAS showed blatant bias by going against the mandatory procedure of the arbitration process by asking them (the ousted TTFA executive) to pay the entire costs ($40,000 Swiss Francs or TT$277, 000) for parties.

Both Wallace and Ramesh Ramdhan, the current TTFA general secretary who signed the Avec contract, refused comment on the deal when contacted. However, Guardian Media Sports understands that the English supplier has already produced the uniforms for its arrival time in T&T.

It is unsure of the amount spend by Avec for the uniforms but Guardian Media attempted to contact According to a source who is close to the development and who spoke to us on the condition of anonymity on Friday said, “Avec would want to retrieve the monies it put out on the production of the uniforms and they would want to be paid. They have already made contact with us.”

The source said, "It is understood that Hadad has concerns about the contract and has been seeking ways to get out of the contract. He already has his hands filled with other TTFA courts matters such as former coach Stephen Hart, and a judgement by the court to pay former technical director Kendall Walkes which has led to the liquidation of the TTFA accounts. The Committee also has to deal with outstanding payments of salaries for the last two months and May is also coming to an end, as well as securing the football association's accounts to conduct business transactions."

From the Avec Sports deal the T&TFA will receive some US$1.4 million in uniforms, but first will be required to sell £125,000 pounds (an estimated TT$1.25 million or sell 7,500 replica shirts and other gear for the English company. The profits from the sales will be shared 80 to 20 per cent respectively to the TTFA and its distributors Sports & Games.

Hadad yesterday, did not respond to a Whatsapp, asking for a comment on the Avec deal.
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TTFA, Avec Sports may head to court
« Reply #617 on: June 02, 2020, 07:04:38 AM »
TTFA, Avec Sports may head to court
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian)


T&T football administration, whether it is the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee or the T&T Football Association, will have to pay back US$1.4 million to UK sportswear suppliers Avec Sports for a contract with the TTFA that is not being honoured.

The amount is only part of what the embattled football association may have to pay, one member of the ousted TTFA team told Guardian Media Sports on Monday, as they brace for the legal implications of not honouring a four-year $25 million deal which was supposed to begin officially yesterday (June 1) with the arrival of uniforms to outfit all the country's football teams.

The contract with Avec Sports was signed by former TTFA president William Wallace and general secretary Ramesh Ramdhan on behalf of the organisation back in January and was scheduled to take effect yesterday (June 1). According to a source close to the matter who spoke to Guardian Media Sports on condition of anonymity, the UK sportswear suppliers have already pumped a significant sum into ensuring that the uniforms are ready.

According to the agreement the TTFA need to sell £125,000 or TT$1.25m or 7, 500 uniforms from Avec. However, the profits of the sales will be shared 8o to the TTFA to 20 per cent to the local distributor which is Sports & Games.

It understood that FIFA is not interested in any contracts that the Wallace-led TTFA, who are now considered persona non grata, had entered into.

The sourced added that Emile Mohammed, who worked alongside former TTFA General Secretary Camara David in the T&T Super League secretariat back in 2017, is an assistant to the Normalisation Committee.

The source said Mohammed attempted to reach out to Avec Sports recently in an attempt to discuss the deal, however, Avec appeared not to be interested since the uniforms were already in production.

Efforts to contact Ramesh Ramdhan, the TTFA General Secretary for an update on the uniforms proved futile.

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« Reply #618 on: June 11, 2020, 07:51:34 PM »
WATCH: Investigation into TTFA's kit deal with Avec Sports

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« Reply #619 on: June 11, 2020, 10:53:43 PM »
I don't mind the investigative reporting but where was this from Sports Max over the last 2-3 years?

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« Reply #620 on: June 12, 2020, 08:48:21 AM »
I don't mind the investigative reporting but where was this from Sports Max over the last 2-3 years?
it wasn’t yet the fullness of time. Yet tbh, either Wallace, Ramesh or both set us up with false hope. I want to believe Wallace is a plant, cause he can’t be so naive. But like the man with the real clout is Ramesh. Or is it, T&T football is just entertainment programming for Heaven and Hell. Like mass and bachanal  is in we DNA.

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« Reply #621 on: June 12, 2020, 01:23:01 PM »
I don't mind the investigative reporting but where was this from Sports Max over the last 2-3 years?
it wasn’t yet the fullness of time. Yet tbh, either Wallace, Ramesh or both set us up with false hope. I want to believe Wallace is a plant, cause he can’t be so naive. But like the man with the real clout is Ramesh. Or is it, T&T football is just entertainment programming for Heaven and Hell. Like mass and bachanal  is in we DNA.

Ramesh is an emergent force. Like he's been sitting down with Garry Kasparov.

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Avec kit deal bad for T&T football
« Reply #622 on: June 14, 2020, 10:45:59 PM »
Avec kit deal bad for T&T football
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There is much criticism of the decision to replace the elected leadership of TTFA with a FIFA normalisation committee so early in its tenure. Critics have questioned the timing and put forward all kinds of conspiracy theories as to why the United TTFA team were allowed less than four months at the helm.

Could it be, however, that after visiting TTFA in February, the FIFA representatives saw signs of gross financial mismanagement and poor decision making that had to be nipped in the bud?

With the election of an openly anti-FIFA executive in Trinidad and Tobago, who immediately closed and ridiculed the Home of Football - opened with immense pride by Infantino mere days before - it is obvious that the FIFA president would view the new TTFA regime with contempt.

So when FIFA looked at the debt reduction plans of United TTFA and their first few management decisions, alarm bells started to ring.

The uniform deal with unknown English supplier Avec was announced by United TTFA as a key element of its debt reduction plan. Announcing a deal that would generate TT$25 million over four years, this was the first big piece of business introduced by the new regime.

Unfortunately, William Wallace, who campaigned on a platform of openness, good governance and transparency - negotiated and signed the contract with Avec before obtaining approval or input from its own TTFA board of directors.

And once board members demanded sight of the contract, the then President Wallace refused to distribute copies but instead insisted that the contract could be viewed at the TTFA office, but not be copied and taken away. Thus, directors were forced to attempt to absorb a 16-page contract with figures quoted in both UK and US currencies after attending a board meeting.

On closer inspection, the contract did not appear to be the income reducing Godsend described by United TTFA.

Let's be clear on this: uniform suppliers are there to make money. While giants such as Adidas and Nike will supply free uniforms to big-name nations and clubs, they do so with carefully measured predictions of replica sales. They are forced to negotiate against the other big names to obtain the marketing kudos of equipping World champions and elite sports clubs and teams who have constant media coverage and top name players and coaches.

Sadly, for now, Trinidad and Tobago football do not belong in that category.

But Avec is building a brand and T&T would be a coup that could lead to other national associations coming on board. Still, the company would need to enter a contract that would provide them with financial stability. So the deal offered would always benefit the supplier first.

The Avec contract guarantees the supply of free equipment for TTFA's national men and women's teams at senior, U20, U17, U15 and U13 levels.

The value of this equipment equates to approximately TT$1,300,000 per year, for 4 years. Over TT$5 million worth of equipment. On the face of it, a good deal for TTFA.

But when we look at the contract with Avec agreed by United TTFA without its board approval, some very worrying commitments come to light.

United TTFA has agreed to purchase a minimum of 7,500 replica jerseys each year for 4 years. That figure may seem achievable to a nation playing regular home fixtures and achieving respectable results.

But to a businessman tasked to reducing debt, it's a big concern. The jerseys will each cost TTFA US$29.65 excluding vat (around TT$192.72). The contract demands payment before the goods are shipped, which means that TTFA is committed to spending around TT$1,445,400 excluding vat each year for four years - TT$5,781,600.

Once in possession of these jerseys, it is then the responsibility of TTFA to sell these items as quickly as possible to recoup their outlay.

To do this, United TTFA entered into a well-publicised deal with Sports & Games. Again, on the surface, a progressive move. S&G will have exclusive rights to retail the jerseys and will return 80% of net profits to TTFA. If all goes well, TTFA will see a tidy profit.

Hoping for the best, planning for the worse

But there are many questions to be answered before an investment such as this takes place. The first and obvious question is where will TTFA obtain the $TT1.5 million to purchase the jerseys? How much will the jerseys retail for? After all, TTFA jerseys will be competing with big brands such as Adidas and Nike who will be pushing replica jerseys from clubs such as Barcelona and Man Utd. When faced with a choice, where will T&T football fans spend their money? And worse, in 2022 we will encounter the huge World Cup marketing campaign pushing replica jerseys from Germany, Brazil, Argentina etc.

As a business, you need to hope for the best, but plan for the worse. Unfortunately for United TTFA they either did not understand this or chose to ignore it. Because the worst has happened. With the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, football is at a standstill like all other sports and economies across the world. With untold months of inaction from our national teams, this can hardly provide fertile retail conditions as desired by United TTFA. Hardly conducive to luxury purchases such as replica jerseys.

So United TTFA has gambled by committing to spending nearly TT$1.5 million per year - money that could have been used to reduce debts.

Another key aspect of the Avec deal is that United TTFA has committed to purchase further Avec equipment. At a cost per year of just over TT$1 million.

This equipment, again, will be exclusively sold by Sports & Games and will include items such as tracksuits, kit bags, caps, shorts, socks etc.

But realistically, what is the likelihood of S&G selling that quantity of minor brand equipment that earns them only 20% of net profit, when they will be stocking major brand items with far greater markup? And every year, another TT$1 million worth of stock will arrive!

Regarding purchases of replica jerseys and equipment, the contract actually commits the items to be purchased by the TTFA's “Approved Retail Partner” and TTFA's “sponsors”.

Yet these entities are not named in the contract and did not sign the contract. However, failure to purchase these annual quantities will result in TTFA having to pay the full value of the free national team uniforms.

So here's the real danger: If Sports & Games, for any reason, fail to purchase the TT$2.5 million worth of stock in, say, year 4 of this contract, TTFA will owe Avec over TT$5 million. A commitment that was never approved by the TTFA board.

As mentioned at the beginning of this letter, Avec is a business, and they, understandably, have constructed a deal in which they cannot lose. A glance at the “free” uniforms to be supplied shows that there are far more items being supplied than are necessary for an association with an alleged debt of TT$50 million.

Quality of uniforms for limited usage

Firstly, is it necessary to purchase full sets of new uniforms each year? Even if each national team played 12 games per year, which is unlikely, can these uniforms not withstand such low levels of usage? Obviously, there is wear and tear. But 60 home and 60 away jerseys per team, per year?

Does each team require 120 tracksuits per year? In our climate, tracksuits would only be essential for away trips outside of the Caribbean and Central America. Only 20-24 players would travel. So why 120 tracksuits per team, per year?

Do we need 120 polo shirts per squad? Surely, they would only be needed for the 20-24 players selected for each squad. That should total no more than 50 players per squad per year. And are baseball caps a necessity? Amid a financial crisis such as the current TTFA situation, pennies must be counted and debt must be reduced.

We would hope that Sports & Games perform admirably and we will see a new income stream.

But FIFA live in the real world, and when they saw this deal (and they would be aware of other associations uniform deals), they would see a sword of Damocles hanging over TTFA for four years.

Add to this the potential $6 million contract of Terry Fenwick, along with a myriad of other coaching and staff contracts and perhaps Infantino felt it was not such a fantastic debt management plan.

Perhaps, a better, smarter move would have been to simply purchase national team uniforms at a discount? Buy what you can afford and create retail demand. Let sports outlets place orders and use their funds to buy the replicas.

What is the need, for example, of purchasing 120 jerseys for the U13 boys and girls when we don't even know if we can afford for them to play an international fixture?

United TTFA may believe they have the football knowledge to win matches, but this deal, for one, exposes their total ignorance of the business of football and the need to consult with their board.

Kevin Harrison

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« Reply #623 on: June 15, 2020, 01:33:19 AM »
And there goes the case. Seeker you right. United WE get setup. The man can’t be so naive. Making contracts without proper consultation is inexcusable. Coaches and kits.. hope he didn’t sign nothing for that Sports Complex.. shit, at this juncture, it really doesn’t matter.

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WATCH: SportsMax further investigates TTFA's kit deal with Avec Sports, as well as the contract given to General Secretary Ramesh Ramdhan.

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I had been looking for these for a while. I was pretty sure I would never find them. Completes my small T&T jersey collection  ;D



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« Reply #626 on: June 24, 2020, 11:07:16 AM »
Miller time: How controversial Englishman ‘made mas’ with new TTFA.
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868).


Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president William Wallace and his United TTFA slate spent much of the past three months railing against the Switzerland-based pair of Fifa and the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

At present, the TTFA’s elected officers, Wallace and vice-presidents Clynt Taylor, Susan Joseph-Warrick and Sam Phillip, are asking the High Court to help them resist removal by a Fifa-appointed normalisation committee—having declared their lack of faith in the fair-handedness of the CAS.

But time will tell whether the scheming of the English duo of Peter Miller and Terry Fenwick did far more damage to the Wallace-led administration.

A financial breakdown of the TTFA’s expected expenditure for 2020 tells its own tale of how highly Wallace valued the pair:

1. Salaries for roughly a dozen office employees: TT$2 million;
2. Salaries for roughly 40 technical staff members: TT$2.8 million;
3. Salaries for Terry Fenwick and Peter Miller: TT$3.6 million.

Fenwick’s job was to match Stephen Hart by taking the Soca Warriors back into the top 50 nations in the world and the top six—at least—in Concacaf. Miller promised to find the money to erase the local body’s debt; and, simultaneously, to bankroll its revamped technical plans and a three-tiered local league.

The jury is out on Fenwick, who is months away from his first competitive international. But Miller has already offered enough to be judged on, even if one generously overlooks his chequered past.

Miller, according to Wallace, promised to bring in TT$40 million over four years—exclusive of a fanciful Arima Velodrome development scheme, valued at an additional TT$50 million for the TTFA.

So, Miller calculated 20 percent of that sponsorship largesse at TT$8 million and, according to the Newsday, presented Wallace with a contract which guaranteed he would be paid that figure as a flat salary—irrespective, it appears, of whether he actually delivered the big bucks.

Any seasoned businessman would have tossed Miller out on his ear. Wallace apparently asked: ‘Where do I sign?’

Take the Avec Sport deal for instance. No really, take it please—anywhere!

If you didn’t laugh, I can’t blame you. Too soon.

The bare essentials of Trinidad and Tobago’s mooted four year sponsorship from unheralded British apparel company, Avec Sports, was that it would offer the TTFA roughly TT$5.2 million in kit—but only once the local body purchased, or had its sponsors buy, TT$10.25 million in merchandise.

Wallace described the deal as ‘unprecedented’ with ‘unrivalled terms for the supply of kit’ and the start of a ‘completely fresh and exciting partnership which sits perfectly as part of the new era for Trinidad and Tobago football’.

He was right on every count, although perhaps not in the way he expected.

Clause 5.6 of the Avec contract states that the TTFA will only get its free gear or ‘gifted pro allowance’ on the proviso that:

a) the approved retail partner (in this case, Sports and Games) purchase a minimum of 7,500 replica shirts in each contract year from the company; and

b) the Association’s sponsors will purchase in each contract year a minimum of 125,000 pounds (TT$1,046,000) worth of other products at wholesale values…

And in the event that [Sports and Games] or the Association’s sponsors fail to reach the minimum purchase requirements, the Association agrees to pay Avec Sport the full value of the gifted pro kit allowance already received by the association.


Avec priced its adult replicas at US$29.65 (TT$201) while the retail price for Soca Warriors replicas under the previous sponsor, Joma, was US$44 (TT$300).

With a profit split of 80-20 between the TTFA and Sports and Games, Wired868 crunched the figures to find out how many replicas the local body must sell to get their uniforms for ‘free’.

If Sports and Games sold 37,000 replicas over four years, the pay-out would be:

S&G (TT$740,000), TTFA (TT$110,000 plus kit), Avec Sport (TT$10.25 million).

The TTFA claimed the deal was worth TT$25 million in cash and kind. Since they get TT$5 million in kit, we also worked out how many replicas must be sold to match their valuation—bearing in mind the TTFA still has to spend over TT$10 million to get the uniforms.

If Sports and Games sold 110,000 replicas over four years, the money would be shared:

S&G (TT$2.2 million), TTFA (TT$30.8 million) and Avec Sport (TT$10.25 million).

So what’s a realistic target for replica sales?

“Once the team is doing well, we can sell about 100 replicas a month,” said Fan Club operations director Mario Singh. “So, we could sell 1,200 comfortably in a year—but it depends on how well the teams are doing.”

The Fan Club has one store in Trincity Mall. Sports and Games has nine nationwide. If each branch sells as well as the other over the next three years, with some help from the Warriors’ overseas fans (and minus a lost year due to Covid-19’s impact on the football calendar in 2020)…

The TTFA could feasibly sell enough to ensure they don’t pay for their own uniforms. But there is little doubt about which party stands to benefit most from this deal.

Clause 5.5 states: ‘all invoices [for the replicas and merchandise that the TTFA must accept along with the free kit] must be paid by the Association before the company will ship the products’.

And clause 5.7 reiterates: ‘the approved retail partner, the other retail partners and Association’s sponsors are required to pay for the products that they purchase and the shipping costs of those products in advance of shipping, and it is the Association’s responsibility to ensure [compliance]’.

Wired868 sent the contract to two companies with vast experience in multi-million dollar clothing deals. Both agreed to offer feedback on the condition of anonymity, so as not to criticise a possible business partner or rival.

The first source is an administrator with regional experience securing sponsorship deals including Adidas and Puma.

Wired868: What are you thoughts on the Avec Sport sponsorship?

Anonymous administrator: “I ran it past my attorney for his take and his words are it is not a sponsorship at all. It is a sales contract.

“The TTFA has to pay for the stock that it gets, so in that context it is a sales contract. A sponsorship contract looks very different to this.”

Wired868: Would you have signed?

Administrator: “I would not have signed this and I would never advise anyone to do that. The main reason I say that is clause 5.5-7.

“You are basically telling us if 125,000 pounds worth of merchandise and 7,500 replica is not taken and paid for, then you have to pay for goods you have received. This is not a sponsorship contract, this is a sales contract—and that is not our core business.

“Also having to pay for the shipping and send that payment in advance is unusual. We have done a lot of deals with companies like Adidas and Puma and normally they pay for shipping and you pay the duties.

“It is either the contract was not read or vetted; but it was not intended to be favourable to TTFA. And there is no ambiguity. It uses words like ‘shall’, ‘will’ and ‘must’ and holds the TTFA responsible for all payment. I have never seen that in a sponsorship contract.”

The second person to share his thoughts is a North America-based sport agent.

“There is no schedule of bonuses for Gold Cup or World Cup qualification and given the new qualifying format that is a still a possibility,” he said. “That seems very strange and potential money is left on the table. Also the four year deal takes you to about halfway through the qualification for the 2026 World Cup; and there is nothing about a chance to extend, based on performance of the team either.”

And what about issues with what actually is in the contract?

“In clause 5.3, it says the TTFA is responsible for shipping costs—this is a red flag,” he said. “Also clause 5.4 says extra items need to be paid for and shipping paid in advance while 5.6 says the free items given to TTFA are given on the condition the retail partners buy 7,500 replica shirts per year and sponsors buy 125,000 pounds worth of products.

“I’d say clause 13.1 is very vague about termination of the contract. And there are no specified delivery dates for the products! Another red flag! My take here is that this was not closely reviewed by a contract attorney.”

Clause 13.1 states either member can terminate agreement based on: ‘distress or executive levied upon its goods or effects’, ‘winding up or insolvency proceedings commenced against it’ or ‘material breach of its obligations [which] continues un-remedied for 30 to 90 days’.

Curiously, clause 14.3 states that: ‘until such time as the property in the goods passes to the Association, the Association shall hold the goods as the Company’s fiduciary agent and bailee and shall keep the goods properly stored, protected and insured’; while 14.4 states: ‘[…] the Company may at any time require the Association to deliver up the goods to the Company and, if the Association fails to do so forthwith’ enter on any premises of the Association or any third party where the goods are store and repossess the goods’.

Wired868 confirmed with a senior TTFA source that the Avec Sport contract, which was publicly unveiled on 26 February, was not vetted by an independent attorney or anyone with experience in the sponsorship field.

Wallace depended solely on Miller.

Wired868 noted the concerns about the contract by our sources and was told that Wallace and general secretary Ramesh Ramdhan also had misgivings. These were apparently assuaged after an explanation from Miller, which was forwarded to us.

So here is Miller’s complete explanation as to how he valued the Avec Sport deal at TT$25 million to the TTFA and why the local football body has nothing to worry about.

“Hi William/Ramesh. As promised earlier for your reference here is a rough break down of a ‘commercial valuation’ for the purposes of press release to media and not reflective of a cash-only value specific to a formalized contract between two parties.

“Example: Avec. Gift of Kit (over 4 years) US$1,400,000.

“Annual requirement to sell replicas 7,500 replicas x 4 years = 30,000 replicas x US$70 (being the full retail price sold to the general public) = US$2,100,000.

“Annual merchandise requirement 125,000 pounds (US$163,000) x 4 = 500,000 pounds (US$652,000) x average retail mark up to market 50% = US$978,000

“Total US$4,478,000 = TT$30,274,674.”

Two things. First, Miller uses a retail valuation of US$70 (TT$470) for the Soca Warriors replicas. Based on our checks, that overstates the value by US$25 (TT$170) per jersey.

And since the ‘merchandise’ due to the TTFA and its wholesale prices are unknown, it is impossible to calculate whether his ‘average retail mark up’ is accurate. (Wired868 put the entire stock of 125,000 pounds into replicas, so as to work out a costing.)

So Miller’s figures can neither be proven nor disproved.

Second, Wired868 worked out the cost of each piece of equipment provided to the national teams barring caps and bags, since Avec Sport did not offer wholesale prices for those. The TTFA will get roughly US$740,000 (TT$5 million) worth of jerseys, pants, socks and track suits over the four year period.

For Miller’s figure of US$1.4 (TT$9.5) million to be accurate, it would mean that Avec Sport are sending US$660,000 (TT$4.5 million) worth of sport bags and caps for Trinidad and Tobago’s national teams over the next four years.

But do continue your explanation, Mr Miller.

“Obviously there are costs within this valuation; purchase of equipment/merchandise, shipping costs and import duties, profit share percentages to retail outlets (Sports & Games) or international online eCommerce partners—but also arguably there are other costs that could be included that are more difficult to calculate such as perimeter advertising boards, branding rights, media/PR values etc.

“Additionally, one must consider and appreciate additional spend of partners such as Sports & Games who will spend their own money to advertise, promote and market TTFA product to ensure that our expectations of them are fulfilled.

“For differing levels of sponsorship deals, we will utilize more sophisticated third parties to evaluate these multiples however, in doing so, there is obviously a cost to that and as such we would only use those services when the overall cash value of a deal warranted such expense.

“Likewise commercial deals can be valued based upon where a rights holder (TTFA) is currently positioned and where that rights holder may be in the future. Example: we have negotiated a deal worth $25,000,000 whilst ranked #104 in the world and only having won one game in years.

“What value would be placed on our same rights in three years if we have qualified for Gold Cups and World Cups at differing levels etc? How many replica jerseys would we be selling then? How much will we be charging for perimeter boards then?

“So, as you can see, ‘press release valuations’ have many moving parts—this is not because we are fabricating the truth, it is because these valuations have differing meanings depending on how you are assessing them—from a perspective of a ‘kit deal’ this is standard, nothing untoward.

“However, the issue here is that unfortunately no one in T&T has ever negotiated a proper kit deal since 2006 (and aside of that one JAW deal going to a WC) no one before that with the exception of me in 2000!!!

“It should also be reiterated that sponsorships can only be truly valued based upon their viability—without the proper infrastructure it wouldn’t matter what the value was, the deliverables would not be possible.

“With specific regard to Avec, this is why securing the Sports & Games partnership is so important. Far more important than a cash up front deal from S&G, as this provides the TTFA with a gateway to sell its contractually obligated numbers. From this point we will add online sales, international eCommerce sales specifically to T&T demographics globally (Miami, New York, Toronto, London etc).

“Why we will now seek to establish (in partnership with S&G and without cost to TTFA) retail outlets in Piarco and Tobago International Airports duty free areas; all of this without a TTFA salaried marketing/commercial staff or a budget to work with.

“Clearly over the past four years, the DJW administration didn’t have the experience, contacts or expertise to deliver just a kit deal alone (let alone an entire marketing and commercial strategy). Likewise neither does someone like, say, Brent Sancho, with his track record of failures in this regard. This is not being petty or flippant, it is merely stating the facts.

“We have a plan which I have never erred from. Now with three months just gone, we have the necessary platform to deliver the cash sponsors we said we would and are already starting to do so.

“I hope this makes sense and please don’t hesitate to ask for any further clarity you may need in this regard.

“Sincerely, Peter.”

If you cannot convince, goes the cliche, then confuse.

Based on a Newsday article, Miller not only charged the TTFA US$25,000 per month for bringing deals like Avec Sport to the twin island republic; but he also included a bill of US$30,410.95 on 25 November 2019—a day after the election.

Was Miller billing Wallace for work done during his electoral campaign, when he got letters of commitment from the would-be sponsors?

Had Wallace, as TTFA president, agreed to dip in the local football body’s coffers to pay Miller for campaign work done for the United TTFA?

Had Miller gotten the local football body to agree to pay him US$30,410.95 for getting a host of mostly obscure companies to promise to do business with the TTFA and then an additional US$25,000 to persuade the said sponsors to follow through—all with no guarantee that the would-be sponsors would ever sign on the dotted line?

Miller’s deal is in stark contrast to the standard sales contract, in which a salesman gets between 5 to 15 percent of the value of the secured deal when the sponsor actually delivers on his or her promise.

One other thing: Miller’s ‘explanation’ to Wallace and Ramdhan on the contract was sent via email on 8 March—eight days after the TTFA unveiled the Avec deal.

Arguably, the TTFA president and general secretary had signed off on a ‘multi-million dollar contract’ that they did not fully understand.

On Friday, Miller, who is now trying to get the normalisation committee to recognise his contract, told the Newsday that he was ‘genuinely disappointed’ in Wallace.

“I had faith in William before [the] election,” said Miller. “I thought he was a man that stood for honesty, integrity and accountability.”

If Fifa president Gianni Infantino’s implementation of a normalisation committee was a blow to the midsection for the fresh-faced TTFA president, exactly where Miller’s about-turn pained Wallace might be best left to the imagination.

When the Switzerland-based body pulled the sheets away from the TTFA, two Englishmen had Wallace in an uncompromising position. And, whether the board consented or not, local football is likely to pay the price for the unholy indiscretion.

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« Reply #628 on: January 04, 2021, 05:56:36 PM »
TTFA settles with Avec Sports.
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian).


Monies owed to UK Sportswear supplies Avec Sports for a deal with the embattled T&T Football Association (TTFA) last year that was not honoured, has been paid.

Now discussions have started for a new uniform deal to outfit the country's national teams, scheduled to come from either Adidas, Puma, Joma, or a new company.

The payment of $15,000 pounds by the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee being led by chairman Robert Hadad, has now officially relieved the country's football administrators from the burden of another legal battle to add to the many Hadad and his committee members that comprise attorney Judy Daniel (deputy chairman) and businessman and former banker Nigel Romano, have had to cope with.

Then TTFA president William Wallace and his general secretary Ramesh Ramdhan had put pen to paper for a $25-million contract to outfit all the country's national teams, from the junior to the senior levels, with uniforms.

The other part of the contract required the football association to sell some 7, 500 in apparel, to benefit in part from the sale 80 to 20 per cent respectively, between them (TTFA) and distributors Sports & Games.

However, the deal fell flat following a decision by the sport's world governing body to replace the T&TFA with a normalisation committee on the basis that the Wallace-led executive had placed local football on the brink of insolvency and illiquidity before they were removed on March 17.

The contract was signed officially in January 2020, but the country was expected to benefit with its first tranch of uniforms on June 1 last year, a development that led to legal action by Avec, as the normalisation committee refused to continue with that contract and other deals by the Wallace administration.

However, on Monday, Hadad revealed to Guardian Media Sports that they were officially out of that deal."Directly speaking about Avec, we have already settled with Avec, we had a settlement figure from them and we have already dealt with that issue, so we are out of the contract with Avec officially. We settled with Avec for 15,000 pounds to get out of the contract because obviously, the implications long-term, would have been a bit more."

Meanwhile, with the country's senior team set to begin World Cup and Gold Cup qualifiers in March, the local football boss has already begun his search for a uniform deal that could come from either Adidas, Puma, or another unknown sportswear supplier.

"We are now in the process of seeking a new uniform contract, so we have been in discussions with a few uniform people. We would all be aware that to get into a new uniform deal would require a lot of work and definitely, we're looking for money."

"The TTFA needs some sort of contribution towards the TTFA and some sort of uniform deal in the next two years. I wouldn't like us signing anything longer than two years. One of the companies is a new one that we are talking to, one of them is Joma, Joma has an offer on the table, and we have reached out to Adidas also."

"You would be mindful that because of our low rankings, getting some of these people to contribute financially toward the association is where the dilemma is, so we are working through those companies right now. We have also reached out to Puma, I don't know where we are at with that one as yet as we haven't gotten an offer on the table as yet. So when we see the offers we will make a decision, and we have to make a decision quickly because we need the uniforms for March," Hadad said.

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