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Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« on: June 04, 2007, 07:25:45 AM »
Somewhat Up For the Cup.
By: Peter Goldstein (Planetworldcup).
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It’s going to be a fantastic summer of international football. If you like qualifiers, we’ve got both the European Championship and the African Nations Cup. And if you like full-dress tournaments, there’s a bonanza: not one but two FIFA Youth Championships, plus the Asian Championship, the Copa America, and the Women’s World Cup.

Oh, and the Gold Cup, too. You remember the Gold Cup--the CONCACAF “championship,” known primarily for its guest teams, bizarre draws and formats, and absurd schedules? Well, they’re gonna play that one too, and even though I'm a CONCACAFer myself, in any list of tournaments it comes last and definitely least. No surprise, the 2007 version has the usual foolishness. We’ve got 12 teams, with a group stage that eliminates only 4 of them; an unbalanced draw, with Group C easily the toughest; a dumb schedule, where the Group B teams will play their first two games less than 48 hours apart before flying all the way across the country to play three days later. And topping it all, the man who gives away the trophy is still Jack Warner, CONCACAF’s answer to Al Capone.

But believe it or not, this year the Gold Cup may be sort of worth watching. Look at the list of participants: Canada, Costa Rica, Cuba, El Salvador, Guadeloupe, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Mexico, Panama, Trinidad & Tobago, USA. That’s right, folks, for the first time in 14 years, all the participants in the CONCACAF championship will be from CONCACAF. No semifinals between Peru and Colombia, no outsiders to eliminate the USA and Mexico. Kudos to the confederation? More likely, with all the international action this summer, they just couldn’t get any decent teams to show up. Even Warner must have figured that Solomon Islands wouldn't be much of a draw.

So it looks like we’ll have a real CONCACAF championship for once. And even better, it looks as if both the USA and Mexico will really try to win it. They haven't met in the championship game since 1998, but that's because when they don't send the A squads, and even sometimes when they do, they get knocked out by Brazil or Colombia or somebody. Against the rest of CONCACAF, the Gold Cup numbers are frightening: the USA and Mexico have won 46, drawn 5, and lost only 1 (Mexico vs. Canada, 2000). And we can expect more this year. True, both teams are also going to play in the Copa America, which starts two days after the final. But the USA, under new coach Bob Bradley, have already said the Gold Cup is their first priority. As for Mexico, they've named a full-strength squad, and are even putting Rafa Márquez on the list, hoping the Barcelona man will be ready to play in time for the semifinals. Hugo Sánchez doesn’t like losing, especially to the USA, so the Tri will be fully motivated. If someone upsets the Big Two, it'll be a genuine upset, not a throwaway.

After a World Cup year everyone more or less starts afresh (and given how CONCACAF performed in Germany, a fresh start is most definitely called for). So we won't try for a full preview of the squads, just a brief rundown of issues in each camp. We'll be here with regular articles during the tournament, and as things progress you'll get all the details.

Group A - (Costa Rica, Canada, Haiti, Guadeloupe)

The opening match of the tournament is between those great traditional rivals, Costa Rica and Canada. You laugh, but somehow the teams have been placed in the same group four out of the last five tournaments. (We say “placed” instead of “drawn,” since everyone knows the Gold Cup doesn’t do a blind draw.) Last time Costa Rica won 1:0 on a dreadful PK call by everyone’s least favorite CONCACAF referee, Peter Prendergast.

Still, the match should be a good one, with both teams in transition. Costa Rica, now coached by 1990 World Cup hero Hernán Medford, won the recent UNCAF tourney, but have question marks everywhere on the field. Ronald Gómez and Paulo Wanchope are gone, and centerforward Álvaro Saborio, who scored 14 goals in Switzerland this year, will be the key man up front. Speaking of attackers, it’s good to see Alonso “El Mariachi” Solís back in the squad. A wizard left-footed dribbler, he fell out of favor with Alexandre Guimaraes and didn’t make the World Cup squad. In midfield we’ll watch to see if Randall Azofeifa takes over the playmaker spot from Walter Centeno. Michael Barrantes is coming into his own as a defensive midfielder. But the back line has lost its longtime leader, Luís Marín. Can Victor Cordero or Michael Umaña fill the role?

For Canada the news is mixed. Right now soccer has a high profile, with the entry of Toronto FC into MLS, and the upcoming FIFA U-20s scheduled to begin on June 30. And for a moment the senior side appeared to have snared a top coach, René Simões, the guy who took Jamaica to the 1998 World Cup. But the federation inexplicably nixed the deal (The CSA acting unprofessionally? Who knew?), and the job fell to local man and U-20 coach Dale Mitchell, although Stephen Hart will be in charge for the Gold Cup. (And by the way, any baseball fan who sends in the trivia question to which “Dale Mitchell” is the answer gets mentioned in my next column.) As usual with Canada, some important names will be missing from the squad, like Tomasz Radzinski, Jim Brennan, and Kevin McKenna. But we’ll see Spurs man Paul Staltieri, probably at right back, and we’re looking forward to watching striker Rob Friend, who plays in Holland. Check to see where midfield all-rounder Atiba Hutchinson plays--the farther back, the more conservative the approach.

The big story in this group is Haiti, who appear to have come up with their best squad in years. In recent months they’ve won the Caribbean Cup, beating T&T in Port-of Spain in the final, and followed it up with friendly wins over Panama, El Salvador, and Honduras, plus a home draw with Chile. The man responsible is new coach Luis Armelio Garcia from Cuba, who turned the team around the moment he stepped in. The side is in flux, with several new recruits in the pool, so it’s difficult to scout them. But Elphine Cadet and Alexandre Boucicaut should be the key men in attack, and captain Pierre-Richard Bruny is the veteran in central defense. Watch also to see if France-based defenders Jean-Jacques Pierre (Nantes) and Windsor Noncent (Sedan) make the lineup. And check out the festive fans in Miami, who will be putting on a show of their own.

The fourth side is Guadeloupe, making their first appearance at the Gold Cup. Like sister island Martinique, they’re an overseas department of France, and so ineligible for full FIFA membership. But they’ve been toiling in reasonably distinguished fashion in CONCACAF for 20 years now, and will get a well-deserved place at the main table. Information on the squad is a bit sketchy, although reports are that EPL defender David Sommeil (Sheffield United) will be in the side. France youth international defender Ronald Zubar (Marseille) was set to play, but now appears injured and out of the tournament. But look out for the incredible veteran Jocelyn Angloma, a mere 42 years old and still starting in midfield!

Group B - (USA, Guatemala, El Salvador, Trinidad & Tobago)

The Bruce Arena era is over, and the Jürgen Klinsmann era never got started, so Bob Bradley now has the contract and the hot seat. He’s off to a bold start, putting Tim Howard in goal ahead of Kasey Keller, but he’ll need more than boldness to beat Mexico. Landon Donovan scored possibly the team’s most brilliant ever hat trick in a friendly against Ecuador; I’m guessing he’ll play withdrawn forward, although attacking midfield is also a possibility. Can striker Eddie Johnson recapture his famous qualifying form, or will he be the next Clint Mathis? DaMarcus Beasley had a decent run with Manchester City, but still has lots to prove after his indifferent performance at the World Cup. Clint Dempsey is boss at right midfield; watch for youngsters Benny Feilhaber and Michael Bradley (the coach’s son) in the middle of the park. Oguchi Onyewu was the next big thing at centerback until he flopped with Newcastle; Group B shouldn’t test him too badly, but he’ll have to be in top form once the games start to matter.

Guatemala are longtime losers at the Gold Cup, having failed to win any of their last 14 (!) games. Coach Hernán Dario “El Bolillo” Gómez has the pedigree, having taken both Colombia and Ecuador to the World Cup, but will find the task a lot tougher in Central America. Freddy Thompson, their most reliable midfielder, is out injured. Still, the group is fairly easy, particularly given T&T’s troubles (see below), and if top man Carlos “El Pescadito” Ruiz is in form, they should break their duck. Note, though: without him at the UNCAF tournament, they scored only 3 goals in 5 games, which included matches against Nicaragua and Belize. Dwight Pezzarossi is his likely partner; amazingly, “El Tanque” has never played in the Gold Cup. Marvin Ávila is an exciting wing player and the defense, with newcomers Claudio Albizuris and Henry Medina making their mark, is solid, but Gómez desperately needs a playmaker.

As for El Salvador, they desperately need a team. It’s been much too long since they were competitive, and though they hosted the UNCAF tournament and got a ridiculously easy draw, they could do no better than fourth, brushed aside by Costa Rica in the semis and even losing to Guatemala in the third-place game. Juan José Gómez is a pretty good keeper, but there’s no punch at all in the lineup. If they have a man to watch, it’s Victor Merino Dubón, the diminutive playmaker, very good at moving the ball around the pitch.

If El Salvador need a team, Trinidad and Tobago need a federation. After the World Cup euphoria, you’d figure T&T football would move onward and upward. But there was one small problem: greed. The FA failed to give sufficient bonus money to the players. So the players threatened legal action--and were promptly blacklisted. The bottom line is that T&T will bring a grand total of one member from their World Cup squad, midfielder Densill Theobald. There are a few familiar names in the mix, like striker Errol McFarlane and midfielder Silvio Spann, but mostly the Soca Warriors will be trying to survive. (Although I assume Jack Warner figured a way to make money off the whole thing.)

Group C - (Mexico, Honduras, Panama, Cuba)

Two words: Hugo Sánchez. The former Real Madrid striker has coveted the Mexico job since birth, and now he’s got it. Of course, it carries a weight of responsibility, like about 50 tons worth, which he found out when he lost the initial friendly 0:2 at the USA. But since then they’ve scored victories against Venezuela, Paraguay, and Ecuador, and Sánchez is doing what he does best, getting his players to think like winners. He surprised no one by recalling Cuauhtémoc Blanco to the squad, or by dropping the two naturalized players, Sinha and Guillermo Franco. He’s sort of between a rock and a hard place with the Copa America right afterwards; Bob Bradley can afford to send a B team down south, but in Mexico you’re supposed to win everything. The side now has more players with European experience than ever before: Ricardo Osorio and Pavel Pardo helped take Stuttgart to the Bundesliga title, and Carlos Salcido did the same for PSV Eindhoven in Holland. In friendlies, the USA have Mexico’s number, but when Mexico try to win the Gold Cup, they win it, and have to be favorites here.

Panama have made a smooth transition from minnowhood to respectability. Alexandre Guimaraes, two-time Costa Rica World Cup coach, took over the team before the UNCAF tournament, and got them within a couple of minutes of the title before they conceded an equalizer and went down on penalty kicks. He has a raft of good strikers, including Roberto Brown, Ricardo Philips, and Portugal-based José Luís “El Pistolero” Garcés. Felipe Baloy is still the star in the back line. Midfield is the problem area; either Julio Medina III has retired from international play or just doesn’t get along with the coach, because he hasn’t featured lately. Alberto Blanco has good technique and the hardest long-range shot in the business, but can’t run the attack by himself.

Honduras are the region’s leading underachievers, but had a good Gold Cup in 2005, losing to the USA in the semis on two heartbreaking late goals. But it was back to disappointment in the UNCAF tourney, needing a playoff against Nicaragua even to qualify for the Gold Cup (they won it 9:1, which tells you how they can play when they want to). The big news is that for seemingly the zillionth time, David Suazo won’t play. The soon-to-be man from Milan picked up an injury playing for Cagliari, and so once more we’ll be deprived of seeing the best striker in CONCACAF. Look for Poland-based Carlo Costly and maybe veteran Carlos Pavón to start up front. There’s lots of talent in the lineup; among the important names are Ivan Guerrero at left back or midfield, Samuel Caballero at centerback, and Wilson Palacios in midfield. The press has given new coach Reinaldo Rueda mixed reviews, which for Honduras is actually pretty good.

Cuba’s chance has come and gone. For years they looked like they were ready to step up a level, and in 2004 came within one goal of putting Costa Rica out of the World Cup qualifiers. But at the recent Caribbean Cup they were surpassed by Haiti, and friendlies in South America have been disappointing. Some of the shine has even come off Lester Moré, their star striker, who scored in only one of five games at the Caribbean Cup. The inevitable truth: Cuba will stay ordinary until their players are allowed to go abroad and be good little capitalists.
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 07:33:02 AM »
Lord father.....we get written off already, before we even step on de field....I ask again...how many of you visualised that scenario for this year's Gold Cup last year around dis time???.... :'(

p.s. finally a foreign news story dat have some idea of wha happening wid we football....
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 07:52:07 AM »
 De man actually say dat Jack foing to find a way to make money out of de whole mess.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 08:12:27 AM »
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2007, 08:36:14 AM »
De man actually say dat Jack foing to find a way to make money out of de whole mess.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

oh yeah ah find dat was funny de way he write it..... ;D
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You could still jump up when music play.
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 01:20:32 PM »
I have never read a Peter Goldstein article on Concacaf football that i didn't like.
This is the killer...

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If El Salvador need a team, Trinidad and Tobago need a federation.

spot on...
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2007, 01:24:46 PM »
I have never read a Peter Goldstein article on Concacaf football that i didn't like.
This is the killer...

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If El Salvador need a team, Trinidad and Tobago need a federation.

spot on...

Hmmm, it's a toss up between the above statement and this one

"And topping it all, the man who gives away the trophy is still Jack Warner, CONCACAF’s answer to Al Capone"
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2007, 01:32:28 PM »
Dat man hitting hard boy  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(.....I backing de warriors but wid de side dat going coupled wid the TTFF backing and Jackula suckin de life force out of everyone ah doh see how we could win......

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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2007, 02:13:23 PM »
Somewhat Up For the Cup.
By: Peter Goldstein (Planetworldcup).
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If El Salvador need a team, Trinidad and Tobago need a federation. After the World Cup euphoria, you’d figure T&T football would move onward and upward. But there was one small problem: greed. The FA failed to give sufficient bonus money to the players. So the players threatened legal action--and were promptly blacklisted. The bottom line is that T&T will bring a grand total of one member from their World Cup squad, midfielder Densill Theobald. There are a few familiar names in the mix, like striker Errol McFarlane and midfielder Silvio Spann, but mostly the Soca Warriors will be trying to survive. (Although I assume Jack Warner figured a way to make money off the whole thing.)


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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2007, 04:32:13 PM »
Imagine all de money you have in de world and everyone hate's you. Even the people who works for you hate you and only there because money passing.

The great Berlin walls fell, is only a matter of time Jack will follow.

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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2007, 06:45:15 PM »
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2007, 09:53:04 PM »
Sorry for getting off topic but Goldstein once wrote an article featuring Russell Latapy. Seeing as we are admiring Goldstien's work you can check the article out here:
http://www.planetworldcup.com/GUESTS/peter20060622.html[

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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2007, 05:07:10 AM »
Sorry for getting off topic but Goldstein once wrote an article featuring Russell Latapy. Seeing as we are admiring Goldstien's work you can check the article out here:
http://www.planetworldcup.com/GUESTS/peter20060622.html[

Soupman ah eh see the story, which one ah dem links on de site is the story bout Latapy??
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Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2007, 05:14:57 AM »
Sorry for getting off topic but Goldstein once wrote an article featuring Russell Latapy. Seeing as we are admiring Goldstien's work you can check the article out here:
http://www.planetworldcup.com/GUESTS/peter20060622.html <--- Try Link Now
there was a [ at the end of the url that interfered with us from going there
try the link now.

Exit, Center Stage
By; Peter Goldstein.


   Last Tuesday, Russell Latapy of Trinidad & Tobago played his one and only World Cup game. He logged 23 minutes plus stoppage time against Paraguay, and I suspect not many people noticed. Although the Soca Warriors had made a lot of fans around the world, by the time Latapy got on the pitch it was clear they were going home. Might as well turn the channel to England and Sweden, or get some yardwork done before the next set of games.

    But it was something special nevertheless. Latapy is 37 years old, and those 23 minutes were the fulfillment of a promise a whole career in the making. All the way back in 1989, a much younger Latapy was a key member of the Strike Squad, the T&T side that fell agonizingly short of a World Cup berth for Italia '90. Needing only a draw at home in their final qualifying game, they lost 0:1 to the USA, and drifted into the international wilderness.

    That Latapy was a remarkable talent was clear from the first. He was a classic attacker, of a kind rarely seen at any level for club or country. There was no more exciting player in the region. His nickname was the Little Magician, and no one could spin and twist, dribble and pass like him. He could score, too, and usually in elegant fashion. Objectively, perhaps, there were greater overall talents around--his defense could be limited, and he was prone to overelaborate--but who cared? He was The Beautiful Game personified.

    Coming into the qualifiers for Germany 2006, Latapy's international career had been both sweet and bitter. With 27 goals in 59 appearances, he had certainly made his mark on Soca Warriors history. He had scored the winner in one of their most famous victories, the 1:0 over Mexico in the qualifiers for 2002. But later that cycle, as it became clear the Warriors were fading, he, along with fellow star Dwight Yorke, quit the team. The two had failed to turn up for training before a game against Jamaica, were omitted by new coach Rene Simoes, and chose to retire from international football. Like Yorke, Latapy was an individualist and a hard liver (at one point he was sacked by Hibernian for missing training and curfew), and the decision came as no surprise.

    It certainly appeared Latapy's T&T career was over. Even when Yorke agreed to come back and lead the team during the qualifiers for Germany, Latapy resisted the call. But when Leo Beehakker took over, and it became clear the Warriors really had a chance this time, he decided to give it one last try. There were four games left, and T&T were locked in a tight struggle with Guatemala for the fourth spot and a playoff with Asia. When Latapy joined the squad, Beenhakker pointedly announced he didn't have a spot assured--but one look in training and that was that. T&T desperately needed some spark in midfield, and Latapy was just the man to provide it.

    At his age, it was unreasonable to expect Latapy to be as lively as before. And perhaps he didn't have the stamina of his youth. But he still had all the skills, and from the moment he took the field it was clear the Warriors had found the key ingredient. It was his first game, the crucial meeting at home to Guatemala, that more than any turned the tide and sent the team on their way to Germany. With T&T down 0:1 early in the second half, Latapy went into magic mode. First he scored a stunning solo goal, twisting six different ways before putting the ball on his left foot and driving it low into the far corner. Then he took complete charge of the attack, setting up chance after chance that somehow went begging. Guatemala fought back, taking the lead again on a counterattack, and for all Latapy's wizardry, T&T looked done. But in the 85th minute Latapy's gorgeous sidestep and pass found Stern John in the penalty area for the shock equalizer. A minute later, with the crowd in delirium, Yorke found John for the winner.

    From then on T&T were on a straight line for Germany. They lost at Costa Rica, but won at Panama (Latapy helping make the winner) and came from behind spectacularly to beat Mexico at home to grab the playoff spot. Everyone agreed that it was the Little Magician who had made the difference. Then came a draw and a win against Bahrain, and 16 years after the Strike Squad disappointment, T&T and Latapy were at last in the World Cup.

    But it was already clear the old man might not play a major role in Germany. At 37, his slow, indirect style was still effective against Central American teams, but Bahrain's pace and pressing had been too much for him. He was ineffective in the opening leg draw, and Beenhakker sat him down for the return leg in Bahrain. The Warriors got the winning goal, the qualifying goal, without him; he only came on for the last 15 minutes to help preserve the lead. With high-energy teams like England and Sweden on the schedule, Latapy couldn't be expected to contribute much at the World Cup.

    And indeed he didn't. The famous draw against Sweden, the 82 marvelous minutes of scoreless football against England, took place with him on the bench. Yorke, three years younger and a different style of player, could still make the pace, but at the finest moments in Soca Warriors history, Latapy could only watch.

    Then came the final game against Paraguay. T&T still had a chance to qualify, and Beenhakker needed the fittest men possible. Again Latapy rode the bench. When the Warriors fell behind, the first substitution was Kenwyne Jones, a striker. When Cornell Glen was injured late in the first half, in came Evans Wise. With only one substitution left, Latapy was still waiting his turn.

    But soon we were well into the second half. Paraguay were holding on at 1:0, and had fallen back on defense, letting T&T control the ball. Beenhakker motioned to the bench--and finally, in came the Little Magician, to a standing ovation from the T&T fans. It was a sentimental choice, but it was also the right one: with Paraguay giving the Warriors space, Latapy would finally have scope to do his thing.

    And so for 23 minutes we had Russell Latapy at the World Cup. And he was beautiful. With his first touch he slipped a defender and found an open Densil Theobald on the left wing. With his second he spun around in the penalty area and fed Yorke near the arc for a shot. With his third it was a neat circle and pass to a charging Stern John. He wasn't running much--really just strolling around the field--but every time he got the ball you said "ah!" You really didn't care what else was happening; you just wanted to see Russell Latapy with the ball at his feet. A lovely through ball to Kenwyne Jones, a blast from the top of the area, a solo spin-dribble-shot from the arc, excitement upon excitement, inspiration upon inspiration. You pleaded for a goal, prayed that such beauty be rewarded one last time.

    It didn't happen. The shots went high or to the keeper. The passes weren't converted. It was Paraguay that scored, putting the game out of reach. Shortly afterward it was over. And yet--when the final whistle blew, Latapy was exactly in the center circle. It was fitting. The center of the T&T attack for so many years, he was the center of attention in his final appearance. He didn't need to take a bow. His play had said it all.

    There are books with complete statistics for every player ever to appear in the World Cup finals. All the books published after 2006 will have a simple line, looking something like this:


Russell Latapy        TNT       1        23        0

    In the end we are all data. But those 23 minutes are now in the archives, accessible to the many billions of World Cup fans in the years to come. Those who actually see them will be few. But perhaps they will be moved to ask "Just who was that number 10?" and seek out the full story of Russell Latapy. And so, appropriately, it will be those final few marvelous minutes that define his career. Exit, center stage.
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2007, 05:52:47 AM »
*sniff* *sniff*....

Ah remember reading this before shortly after de WC.....still make me as sentimental as it did then....

*sigh*...The Little Magician....*sigh*

Que cera....
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Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2007, 06:18:39 AM »
Imagine all de money you have in de world and everyone hate's you. Even the people who works for you hate you and only there because money passing.
The great Berlin walls fell, is only a matter of time Jack will follow.
Greed !!!!!!!!!! a small word that Satan worship.
I have been asking my self
Why does Mr Warner KEEP being such a "hard ass" with players?
I think that the answer is just plain and simple.
That is how he knows how to act.....he does not know any better.
the thing is he has made money "Hand over Fist" with his connection to football in TnT,
YET he continues to ACT like he is fighting for his next meal....grabbing at anything to hoard money....
I would think that it must be a BITCH to live with and work for him.
Jack, ease up on yourself and the TnT players nuh

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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2007, 07:15:20 AM »
oh god goldstien oh god.....whey meh magician.....mama....tears in meh eye again......thank god i live to see Russell Latapy...long live the knig
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2007, 07:40:31 AM »
 :'( :'( I am a sentimental fool when it comes to Latas, I am happy to be in his time to have witnessed one of Trini's finest in action. There will not be another as exciting as the Magician, as Argentina have realised as well, there are no replacement Maradonas

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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2007, 08:11:46 AM »
thank you ( danke ) mr skywalker
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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2007, 01:28:58 PM »
 :'( :'( :'(  Jack, Beenie, allyuh really know how to hurt a youth. Allyuh please doh teach mih sketel and dem allyuh techniques
Doh loss yuh head boss

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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2007, 07:36:52 PM »
Sorry for getting off topic but Goldstein once wrote an article featuring Russell Latapy. Seeing as we are admiring Goldstien's work you can check the article out here:
http://www.planetworldcup.com/GUESTS/peter20060622.html <--- Try Link Now
there was a [ at the end of the url that interfered with us from going there
try the link now.

Oops! Sorry about that. Thanks for the fix West Coast.

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Re: Peter Goldstein: Somewhat Up For the Cup.
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2007, 04:14:31 AM »
Sorry for getting off topic but Goldstein once wrote an article featuring Russell Latapy. Seeing as we are admiring Goldstien's work you can check the article out here:
http://www.planetworldcup.com/GUESTS/peter20060622.html <--- Try Link Now
there was a [ at the end of the url that interfered with us from going there
try the link now.
Oops! Sorry about that. Thanks for the fix West Coast.
Dais orrrite man ;)
buh doh let it happen again eh :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:  jk
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