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« Reply #5670 on: August 26, 2014, 05:57:51 PM »


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« Reply #5671 on: August 26, 2014, 07:27:44 PM »
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« Reply #5673 on: August 26, 2014, 08:59:44 PM »
Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong.... ;)

Doldrums! The current Manu fans don't know the word. 1968 to 1992. That is doldrums.  These fans  are a bunch of spoilt brats.  Also went down to D2 in 1974 for a year.
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« Reply #5674 on: August 27, 2014, 07:02:42 AM »
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Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong.... ;)

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« Reply #5675 on: August 27, 2014, 07:45:42 AM »
Ah feel your pain fellas; Liverpool had its period in the doldrums too.  Stay strong.... ;)

Doldrums! The current Manu fans don't know the word. 1968 to 1992. That is doldrums.  These fans  are a bunch of spoilt brats.  Also went down to D2 in 1974 for a year.

Just be lucky you're not a Charlton fan if that's a doldrum for ya :p

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« Reply #5676 on: August 27, 2014, 10:24:07 AM »
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

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« Reply #5677 on: August 27, 2014, 10:38:43 AM »
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

so what yuh sayin....... dat man u issue is purely personnel? .........serious question
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« Reply #5678 on: August 27, 2014, 10:52:07 AM »
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!

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« Reply #5679 on: August 27, 2014, 11:03:50 AM »
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:


so what yuh sayin....... dat man u issue is purely personnel? .........serious question

Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for 59M?  For why?!   

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« Reply #5680 on: August 27, 2014, 11:06:22 AM »
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!

I expect any team right now to light up ManUre especially if the full 1st XI not on the field.  To me it eh matter who they playing. 

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« Reply #5681 on: August 27, 2014, 12:43:04 PM »
No CL and getting lit up by small sides.  Di Maria must be so vex eh.  He's a defending CL champion!

A man named Reeve hit allyuh a no-look pass to set up a goal lol
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« Reply #5682 on: August 27, 2014, 01:59:22 PM »
Well that was unexpected lol

By whom?  the delusional ManUre supporters?  Nutten doh surprise me with them except the denial.  I wonder if they still blaming Moyes fuh dis too :rotfl:

I'm an ABU guy, but how can you have expected MK Dons to beat them 4-0? What you been smoking lol. Have you seen MK Dons play? Seriously I know how shite they are, the fact that they beat Man U 4-0 is utterly embarrassing. Hell even Charlton can beat them!

I expect any team right now to light up ManUre especially if the full 1st XI not on the field.  To me it eh matter who they playing.

Lol you are very pessimistic :p They still have good players, but not much of a team.

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« Reply #5683 on: August 27, 2014, 08:39:25 PM »
Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for 59M?  For why?!   

nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things

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« Reply #5684 on: August 27, 2014, 09:16:16 PM »
nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things



Moyes was always an easy target... dull and boring as he was.  His own frustrations with management made the jump to United easy.  I think that is what opened eyes at Goodison, and when they got Martinez it was with the promise that they'd spend more, which they have.  If you go back and check their transfer outlay for the past decade you'd see how much of a different era it is for them now.  And while we're on the topic of spending money, consider a factoid I saw posted on FB... 213m pounds spent on 8 players, who have made 35 starts so far, yet only scored 7 goals (all by Mata).

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« Reply #5685 on: August 28, 2014, 07:59:45 AM »
nice break down man, I have a clearer understanding of the issues now.........have to admit though....i was in d moyes eh ready crew.....more based on what martinez did with everton, but bakes set mih straight .....somewhat...on dat score a while back too so it good to get a clearer view of things



Moyes was always an easy target... dull and boring as he was.  His own frustrations with management made the jump to United easy.  I think that is what opened eyes at Goodison, and when they got Martinez it was with the promise that they'd spend more, which they have.  If you go back and check their transfer outlay for the past decade you'd see how much of a different era it is for them now.  And while we're on the topic of spending money, consider a factoid I saw posted on FB... 213m pounds spent on 8 players, who have made 35 starts so far, yet only scored 7 goals (all by Mata).

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« Reply #5686 on: August 28, 2014, 08:26:40 AM »
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Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for 59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.
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« Reply #5687 on: August 28, 2014, 09:36:45 AM »
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Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for 59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.

Can't disagree but relative to last season he would certainly have needed the support of Rooney, Giggs, Rio, Vidic and Carrick.

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« Reply #5688 on: August 28, 2014, 11:00:37 AM »
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Mainly.  Last season for me highlighted the fact that Man U had many areas that needed attention.  With the exception of Evra and Jones the defense was shite.  Jones needs to stop being used as a utility player.  He will never grow if he has no one position to concentrate on.  They have been in need of a holding midfielder for quite some time.  Although Felini wasn't the right fit, at least Moyes attempted to address it.  They need either for Kagawa to play replace him.  The team is one dimensional with only the ability to attack from the flanks.  Young needs to go back to a club of Villa's stature as he has never impressed since being there.  There looks to be a morale issue to me among the players.  I also believe there maybe a few who need to be weeded out that may be poisoning the well.  Can't say who though, but last season as a unit they were very unprofessional and gave up on Moyes very early on.  Now they have Van Gaal so I am truly curious to hear the excuses.  Fergie got the best out of a very limited squad.  He did however have Rio and Vidic in their prime, Nani at his best, Carrick to do lot's of the dirty work, Giggs, Scholes and more.  He didn't replace their quality and retired at a very convenient time.  A blind person could see the set up, but somehow ManUre fans were in total denial swearing up and down that it's Moyes fault.  I am not saying Moyes did everything right but he tried with what he had.  Now VG come een and supposed to save them, but how exactly?  ManUre over the last decade hasn't captured a single big name player from any quality team that was desperate to hold onto that player.  RVP doesn't count because he signaled his choice to leave by refusing an extension.  He then decided on MU as opposed to them going after him.  When you look at all the current big sides around the world such as Barca, RM, Chelsea, MC, PSG, Juventus, Bayern, and so forth, none seem to have trouble attracting players.  Even when they were always in contention for the league and a CL fixture that was always the case.  Even Spurs are aggressively going out and seeking talent.  ManUre brings in DiMaria for 59M?  For why?!   

I can say who doh ... RVP.

Can't disagree but relative to last season he would certainly have needed the support of Rooney, Giggs, Rio, Vidic and Carrick.
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« Reply #5689 on: August 30, 2014, 03:45:27 PM »
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« Reply #5690 on: August 30, 2014, 06:10:14 PM »
As the saying goes, "it will get worse before it gets better". Let's see how much patience we'll have with Val Gaal, since we're in a time where everyone wants to win now!

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« Reply #5691 on: September 01, 2014, 04:27:40 AM »
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« Reply #5692 on: September 01, 2014, 05:32:37 AM »
I don't understand the logic behind this move. This has to be the agent chaining up something.
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« Reply #5693 on: September 01, 2014, 06:12:20 AM »
Big big signing for ManU. Doesn't address the other glaring needs but the strategy might simply be to score more than the defense concedes. Definite upgrade to Wellbeck and the Mexican.

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« Reply #5694 on: September 01, 2014, 06:21:14 AM »
With the defence how it is that is even a bigger gamble. Service to the strikers shoddy at best. Still doesn't address the midfield issue. They hesitate over Vidal for the whole transfer season because of doubt with his knees, which is a position that actually needs to be reinforced.. Yet take a striker which not as urgent who coming back from a major knee problem himself. No word yet on areas that actually need addressing. Is Kamla handling transfers or wha? Why everything looking like it just done by vaps so for PR?
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« Reply #5695 on: September 01, 2014, 06:57:22 AM »
This team going to take a while to gel. Is basically a new team constructed in a few months / weeks
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« Reply #5696 on: September 01, 2014, 08:28:04 AM »
even though we are not doing too well at the moment, at least we have a proven style from LVG that we are working to.
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« Reply #5697 on: September 01, 2014, 09:35:13 AM »
I really don't understand why Monaco would loan him out, and why he would agree to be loaned to a non-CL team.

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« Reply #5698 on: September 01, 2014, 11:06:41 AM »
We need Vidal
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« Reply #5699 on: September 01, 2014, 01:08:32 PM »
I don't understand the logic behind this move. This has to be the agent chaining up something.
RVP knee has not healed from ligament injury and he is supposed to have surgery which will rule him out for a period of time. So the signing makes sense seeing that Chicarito gone to Real Madrid and Wellbeck heading to Arsenal or Spurs.
Looks like it is a bargain deal with an option to buy at the end of the season. Plus the owner of Monaco is in a bitter divorce battle and is selling players like nobody business.
So in a nutshell, this seems like a luxury signing, but Rooney is the only healthy, proven striker on the books.

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