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Offline Trini _2026

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The best Caribbean-born footballer
« on: April 19, 2005, 05:05:04 PM »

John Barnes

Dwight Yorke
 

Be honest now people dont be bias i cannot recall john banres at his peak but i do recall dwight yorke in his peak from  1993/1994 -1999/2000
 

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2005, 05:09:24 PM »
What criteria are you using to assess what is the 'BEST?'

The most accomplished? most reknowned? I mean that type of catergorizing is nebuleous and  subjective.

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2005, 05:20:46 PM »
ok then taking all thing into consideration alberta trini
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2005, 05:48:12 PM »
Them 2 fellas cyar be the best the Carrbbean produce over the years. They might be the most recognised but hardly the best. I guess i t woul depend on the criteria being used to assesed like Alberta said
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2005, 06:58:34 PM »
How about dem Martiniquans who play for France including there '82 captain and all dem Surinamese who help Holland including Ruud Gullit

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Other players to consider
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2005, 07:59:10 PM »
Wait nuh all them west indian born player in england  oh and tallman yuh forget alfred charles.

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2005, 08:06:16 PM »
Easy answer...Dwight based on achievements...it not even close...yuh could argue till yuh face blue and de cows come home...but allyuh put Latas on dat list too. He done play big time European football when he was in Portugal. Dem two was ranked in de 30's as the best foootballers in de world at one time. No GKs on dat list too?

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2005, 08:17:08 PM »
Oh and fellas dwight yorke at his peak would have made the england 1998 WC Squad . WHAT ARE WE LOOK AT TRAILBLAZING PLAYERS OR THE BEST EVER PLAYER

look at it this way yorke set the champions league a fire in his first season there

Do you all remeber that game when yorke well Manu destroyed bayern munich 5-0 in the early rounds IN 1998/1999 CL.FERGIE SAID YORKE WAS THE ONLY STRIKE THAT GAVE HIS DEFENCE TROUBLE before he signed him.

in my opinion dwight move to a bigger club in 1998 was long over due.
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2005, 08:50:12 PM »
and yet you think he is a total write off now?

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2005, 09:33:16 PM »
THAT WAS 6 YEARS BACK
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2005, 02:57:33 AM »
Barnes and Yorke have to be considered.

But u should have the category in two areas.

Those who played abroad and those at home who were not given the opportunity to play abroad...eg. Spann,Lellwyn, La Forest etc.

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2005, 03:59:23 AM »
John Barnes was class. Dwight Yorke accomplished more (club wise). Barnes played for England which was a plus for him on the international scene. Dwight may have a chance now to change that if we qualify for Germany and knowing that he was born and bread in T&T, grew up and learn the game in T&T is also a major plus in Yorke's favor..

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2005, 05:51:44 AM »
Yorke by a mile, no one is even close!

Yorke top score in de champions league in '99 (tied on 8 goals with de ukrainian rocket)

seventh highest goal scorer of all time in one of de world's toughest leagues!

was on a top ten shortlight for european player of de year in '99.

Dat man woulda walk on dat english team and be owen's striker up to this day!

Spann? lol La Forest? gally cummings? lol

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2005, 06:08:51 AM »
Barnes and Yorke have to be considered.

But u should have the category in two areas.

Those who played abroad and those at home who were not given the opportunity to play abroad...eg. Spann,Lellwyn, La Forest etc.

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I agree with you, some would argue that if some of these guys had the same opportunities they would have accomplished a lot.  But you cannot mentioned Spann, Ron and Sammy and not mention Denzil White - one of the most accomplished players we had in T&T.

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2005, 06:33:42 AM »
Clarence Seedorf
Edgar Davids
Lillian Thuram
Brendon Batson
Cyrille Regis
Luther Blisset
Ces Podd
Clyde Best
Marius Tresor

Add to that list Anelka, Bernard Lamma, Henry, Gerrard Vandenburg, Sennon (Haiti),
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2005, 07:30:07 AM »
yorke hands down no 1, the man was wicked for man u and win almost everything top scorers in EPL ever
no way spann ron la gally etc even compare
and not forget yorke on the field of play was a great player very very good.
off the field well that is his business.

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2005, 07:32:21 AM »
i going with dwight based on born and grow up in the region not the ones that left when they were like 2 or 3 or 10

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2005, 07:39:53 AM »
i going with dwight based on born and grow up in the region not the ones that left when they were like 2 or 3 or 10

Barnes left at 16
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2005, 07:50:31 AM »
well yeah still dwight over barnes for me

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2005, 08:10:26 AM »
barnes left jamaica at 13
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2005, 12:11:00 PM »
Like this is a popularity contest.  How much do you guys really know about T&T football?  What makes Dwight the best?  At his age no one wants him in England, he was refused by Wolves a champioship club and Tranmere, who happens to be two division below the Premiership.  This guy had two good seasons in England, made as much as 65,000 pounds a week and is now being run out of England for a little over 500,000 a year.  During his spell as a T&T international he has never dominated or been real creative as a player.  So, what's makes him the best, the standard seems to be very low.  If this is based on popurality, then Russel is the man.  He was more consistent, had a bigger impact, and is getting ready to close off his playing career in style and beging a new one as a coach. 

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2005, 12:16:38 PM »
. If this is based on popurality, then Russel is the man. He was more consistent, had a bigger impact, and is getting ready to close off his playing career in style and beging a new one as a coach.

By showing how Russel was consistent, would go a long way in supporting your position. :-\
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2005, 12:43:09 PM »
Like this is a popularity contest.  How much do you guys really know about T&T football?  What makes Dwight the best?  At his age no one wants him in England, he was refused by Wolves a champioship club and Tranmere, who happens to be two division below the Premiership.  This guy had two good seasons in England, made as much as 65,000 pounds a week and is now being run out of England for a little over 500,000 a year.  During his spell as a T&T international he has never dominated or been real creative as a player.  So, what's makes him the best, the standard seems to be very low.  If this is based on popurality, then Russel is the man.  He was more consistent, had a bigger impact, and is getting ready to close off his playing career in style and beging a new one as a coach. 

Two good seasons??

So those years with Villa, he didn't have good seasons.
So what Man U pick him based on MEDIOCRE seasons.

He score more than 20 goals in a season how...with a POOR season.

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2005, 12:53:42 PM »

Two good seasons??

So those years with Villa, he didn't have good seasons.
So what Man U pick him based on MEDIOCRE seasons.

He score more than 20 goals in a season how...with a POOR season.

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I was going and say more or less the same thing... NC is either a madman or born in '99 to say Yorke had two good seasons alone de whole fifteen years he in england. These ppl crazy yes
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2005, 01:03:48 PM »
thanks vb for that point man u pick him cause he was a shithound
is like man can't have a personal preference on this forum at all

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2005, 01:55:16 PM »
Could someone tell me the standard that is being used to arrive at this conclusion?

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Dwight's honours
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2005, 02:31:16 PM »
This guy had two good seasons in England

Dwight has achieved the following honours:

  • Top-scorer for Blackburn Rovers in 2002/2003
  • First non-English player to score 100 goals in the Premiership
  • English Premier League winner's medal with Manchester United in 2000/2001
  • English Premier League winner's medal with Manchester United in 1999/2000
  • Top-scorer for Manchester United in 1999/2000
  • 10th place in FIFA's World Player of the Year ranking in 1999
  • Intercontinental Cup winner's medal with Manchester United in 1999
  • Trinidad & Tobago Chaconia Medal Gold (for Sport) in 1999
  • English Premier League winner's medal with Manchester United in 1998/1999
  • English FA Cup winner's medal with Manchester United in 1998/1999
  • European Cup winner's medal with Manchester United in 1998/1999
  • Carling Player of the Year in 1998/1999
  • English Premier League Golden Boot Award (18 goals) in 1998/1999
  • Runner-up PFA Player of the Year in 1998/1999
  • Voted to the PFA Team of the Year in 1998/1999
  • Aston Villa's Player of the Year in 1996/1997
  • Top-scorer for Aston Villa in 1996/1997
  • Carling Player of the Month (for February) with Aston Villa in 1996
  • Top-scorer for Aston Villa in 1995/1996
  • League Cup winner's medal with Aston Villa in 1995/1996
  • Aston Villa's Player of the Year in 1995/1996
  • Top-scorer for Aston Villa in 1994/1995
  • Trinidad & Tobago Humming Bird Medal Silver (for Sport) in 1993
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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2005, 02:41:44 PM »
yorke, has de titles and goals, played 4 de bess team in the world at one point, only ting alluding him is de world cup

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Re: The best Caribbean-born footballer
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2005, 03:52:37 PM »
"Yorke has not reached double figures in his past five seasons"

 

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