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« Reply #300 on: July 12, 2011, 05:04:42 PM »
Ganso is the playmaker on Brazil's squad in a similar role to Kaka in the past.  The only difference I see is Kaka has lots more speed but I Ganso's passing is better.  He has played only 3 games for Brazil so we can't say he is failure, the jury is still out on him.  Give  about 2 years.  He needs some experience in Europe.

As for Neymar and Robinho, neymar dribbles too much and while he will mash up the Brazilian league, that approach will not work in Europe and national team competitions.  As for Robinho, he is overrated, plain and simple.  Good club player in the right system but nothing more.

One of brazil's problem is the lack of a target man, while Fabiano was no ronaldo or romario, he was a very clinical finisher.  Pato and Fred are not that type of player, they are effective as a 2nd forward.

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Re: 2011 Copa America Thread.
« Reply #301 on: July 12, 2011, 05:24:36 PM »
chile vs peru atm cero - cero second half. Telefutura

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« Reply #302 on: July 12, 2011, 05:46:20 PM »
We papa some serious nasty tackles flying in this game. Like is crop time in Mendoza, man cutting cane
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« Reply #303 on: July 12, 2011, 06:07:49 PM »
i was now about to type how Peru doh know how this game is 0-0. Apparently they couldn't believe Chile didn't score and decide to score for them.

1-0 at the death.
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« Reply #304 on: July 12, 2011, 06:08:08 PM »

Yuh memory gettin short in old age?  Kaka is a big playmaker.  Yes he can run past players, it is part of the way that he makes plays.  He also makes many assists and scores many goals.  That's what playmakers do.
 

I think Palos talking about a more old school traditional "general"...a dead center, central midfielder.... like a Xavi, Riquelme, Modric, Pirlo type who will kill you with the pass and really take control over the pace of a game... Ganso is that guy in Brazil's current set up.  Kaka is a more modern day play maker who sits right behind the forwards... The deep lying central midfielder pulling the strings between back and forwards is kind of a dying breed.  These days yuh have defensive midfielders doing the dirty work, and withdrawn forwards like Messi, Kaka, C.Ronaldo, Robinho who score goals as much as they make plays...often times as Palos says they take up wide positions on the field and are more focused on taking on players than killing you with the deft pass...

Nah kicker, he say since Ronaldinho they didn't have a true playmaker, and Ronaldinho is not the type of playmaker you outlined there.  He's much more along the lines of Kaka.

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« Reply #305 on: July 12, 2011, 06:09:01 PM »
The home crowd goes wild!
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Re: 2011 Copa America Thread.
« Reply #306 on: July 12, 2011, 06:57:31 PM »
mexico vs uruguay on univision 10 mins  cero y cero

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Re: 2011 Copa America Thread.
« Reply #307 on: July 12, 2011, 06:58:28 PM »
What is up with the mascot? This thing is the stuff of nightmares:



Why have mascots anyway? does anyone care?

Past Mascots:


World Cup mascots:
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« Reply #308 on: July 12, 2011, 07:12:51 PM »
94 , 98 mascots bring back memories to me
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« Reply #309 on: July 12, 2011, 07:15:05 PM »
Nah kicker, he say since Ronaldinho they didn't have a true playmaker, and Ronaldinho is not the type of playmaker you outlined there.  He's much more along the lines of Kaka.

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« Reply #310 on: July 12, 2011, 07:26:12 PM »
94 , 98 mascots bring back memories to me

For me it was 1990. But back then I thought we were going  :-\

I doh remember the bear in the big blue house from 2006 though. actually nothing from 94-2010
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« Reply #311 on: July 12, 2011, 08:27:16 PM »
Uruguay keep throwing away. Mexico almost made them pay there. Barely offside.
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« Reply #312 on: July 13, 2011, 10:19:08 AM »
What is up with the mascot? This thing is the stuff of nightmares:




That remind meh of Peppy.

Definite nightmares.



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« Reply #313 on: July 13, 2011, 10:30:19 AM »
What is up with the mascot? This thing is the stuff of nightmares:




He look kinda like Diego Milito...
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« Reply #314 on: July 13, 2011, 02:24:44 PM »
What is up with the mascot? This thing is the stuff of nightmares:




He look kinda like Diego Milito...

Oh shit!  :rotfl: you eh easy nah!!!
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Re: 2011 Copa America Thread.
« Reply #315 on: July 13, 2011, 04:23:30 PM »
Ven 1 vs Paraguay 0. nice goal buy Solomon Rondon.

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« Reply #316 on: July 13, 2011, 06:06:43 PM »
Real wildness at the end of this game.

Venezuela score 2 in 3 minutes to tie it 3-3

Is the flickin goalie who run up and provide the knock-on header for the goal oui.
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« Reply #317 on: July 13, 2011, 06:07:57 PM »
Real wildness at the end of this game.

Venezuela score 2 in 3 minutes to tie it 3-3

Is the flickin goalie who run up and provide the knock-on header for the goal oui.

wha de arse i seeing here.....

dat was drama  :o :rotfl:
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« Reply #318 on: July 13, 2011, 06:55:18 PM »
This Brazil side lookin' realllll flat jed....flat flat flat!
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« Reply #319 on: July 13, 2011, 07:15:26 PM »
That was a damn good pass!
Man measure it like Beckham to Yorke.

Btw 1-0 to Brasil.

1-1!
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Re: 2011 Copa America Thread.
« Reply #320 on: July 13, 2011, 07:23:39 PM »
Howler by Julio Cesar - 1-1
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« Reply #321 on: July 13, 2011, 07:23:57 PM »
Howler by Julio Cesar - 1-1

I thought it was Heurelho Gomes in goal  :devil:
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« Reply #322 on: July 13, 2011, 07:50:18 PM »
I thought it was Heurelho Gomes in goal  :devil:

seriously
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« Reply #323 on: July 13, 2011, 07:53:36 PM »
Neymar opens his account finally...

Well worked goal. 

Ganso is a bit too pedestrian in the run of play a lot of time but his final pass on top the box is almost always deadly...
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« Reply #324 on: July 13, 2011, 08:03:19 PM »
Julio Cesar savin like he needs glasses! 2-2. Now 3-2 Brasil-Pato with 2.

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« Reply #325 on: July 13, 2011, 08:08:04 PM »
Like somebody dial up wildness for tonight, is all kinda ting happening.
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« Reply #326 on: July 13, 2011, 08:11:17 PM »
Lucas has completely disappeared in this game... The defensive middle for Brazil is almost non-existent. 
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« Reply #327 on: July 13, 2011, 09:20:31 PM »
So Neymar and Pato managed to produce.
Brasil still lookin very suspect though.

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« Reply #328 on: July 13, 2011, 09:48:43 PM »
So Neymar and Pato managed to produce.
Brasil still lookin very suspect though.

Yeah - not convincing at all.  The defensive middle is falling asleep completely, jogging around the field and escorting the opposition through.... Ecuador was strolling through the midfield without even working. 

Ganso has some amazing touches, but he is way too casual a lot of the time...would like to see more energy and steel from him - love the touches and vision, but it's a bit too "exhibition football-like" too often. 

Maicon over Alves was a good move - he was probably man of the match despite the goal scorers.
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« Reply #329 on: July 14, 2011, 08:57:05 AM »
So Neymar and Pato managed to produce.
Brasil still lookin very suspect though.

Yeah - not convincing at all.  The defensive middle is falling asleep completely, jogging around the field and escorting the opposition through.... Ecuador was strolling through the midfield without even working. 

Ganso has some amazing touches, but he is way too casual a lot of the time...would like to see more energy and steel from him - love the touches and vision, but it's a bit too "exhibition football-like" too often. 

Maicon over Alves was a good move - he was probably man of the match despite the goal scorers.

Spent the whole match thinking "Is it me, or is Maicon STILL better than Dani Alves?"
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