Sunderland vs Brimingham

[dreamer]

Watch nah....da was de best feeling. It was always my feeling that Keano was playing Stern this game. Moral of the story for we trinbagonaians.....stop panicking so. Stern is boss an will always be boss. Big Mag whey yuh?    

Lovely playing Stern-turn-inho. Allyuh notice de glowing praises from Keano and Bruce? They admiring him and nuff here jess hating. C'mon fellas, we can do better dan dat. Respec'

Memories   ...
Click on Panama vs T&T (Oct 8, 2005) http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=14305.0
Doh ever doubt meh boy again  

[dreamer]

Watch nah....da was de best feeling. It was always my feeling that Keano was playing Stern this game. Moral of the story for we trinbagonaians.....stop panicking so. Stern is boss an will always be boss. Big Mag whey yuh?    

Lovely playing Stern-turn-inho. Allyuh notice de glowing praises from Keano and Bruce? They admiring him and nuff here jess hating. C'mon fellas, we can do better dan dat. Respec'

Memories   ...
Click on Panama vs T&T (Oct 8, 2005) http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=14305.0
Doh ever doubt meh boy again  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6941801.stm

[troy piloy]

he was supposed to score that header that hit the post. no question. They was supposed to have three points.

You know is comments like this does upset me allya does just be hating on Stern fro no reason before yuo support and congrats the player you coming with negative comments. Come on man let get postive

Troy

[fatimarima]

outside with all haters!!!   Big up to Stern "bound to score "John!   

[Bakes]

It's nice to be right...in this case though it feels good to be wrong, big up Stern for pullling one off when he team needed it.  I still say he should be playing better, but that's only because I know he's capable of better...way to seize the moment though.

HIGHLIGHTS

http://media.putfile.com/BIRMINGHAM-2-SUNDERLAND-2

good hustle on the highlights, big up 

[Bakes]

did  i mention john on mi fantasy team 

I find men was real breaksin from de question when i ask boy! Anyhow...he give me a valuable 5 points.....buh i hadda do some reshuffling wit my team AGAIN! Well done stern.

I have tuh give de two ah allyuh props b/c even me thought allyuh was mad fuh suggesting men even play him, way to show faith in him  

[Bakes]

Watch nah....da was de best feeling. It was always my feeling that Keano was playing Stern this game. Moral of the story for we trinbagonaians.....stop panicking so. Stern is boss an will always be boss. Big Mag whey yuh?    

Lovely playing Stern-turn-inho. Allyuh notice de glowing praises from Keano and Bruce? They admiring him and nuff here jess hating. C'mon fellas, we can do better dan dat. Respec'

I rankles me to no end to see (presumably) grown-ass men with this 'hater' talk as though they'z some facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat.  Exactly what is the definition of 'hating' anyways...or is it that men here juss throwing arung words they hear others say in some feeble attempt to be hip?

*steups*

Anyways, big up Sunderland...and big up Stern in particular.

[Peong]

I rankles me to no end to see (presumably) grown-ass men with this 'hater' talk as though they'z some facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat.  Exactly what is the definition of 'hating' anyways...or is it that men here juss throwing arung words they hear others say in some feeble attempt to be hip?

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28899.msg329369#msg329369

I became a hater in the "Hand of God" game...could never root for Argentina.

hmmm what is goin on here?

[StoreBayLimer]

Stern’s performance did not help his cause to stay at Sunderland or move up on the list of strikers.  A lot of people are cheering the goal, but it was a goal that did not demonstrate his skill as a striker.  In fact, to score that goal did not really require a lot of skills.  The real heartbreak was Stern missing the header.  Edwards had a fantastic run, the man beat a midfielder, then broke through two defenders, and was going down, but he stayed up and made an excellent pass to Stern. The ball was about 24 inches away from the goal, Stern was unmarked, and that easy header, Stern put it  on the crossbar.    Chopra’s strike showed that he has some skills of a striker.  Edwards was excellent today.

[andre samuel]

Stern’s performance did not help his cause to stay at Sunderland or move up on the list of strikers.  A lot of people are cheering the goal, but it was a goal that did not demonstrate his skill as a striker.  In fact, to score that goal did not really require a lot of skills.  The real heartbreak was Stern missing the header.  Edwards had a fantastic run, the man beat a midfielder, then broke through two defenders, and was going down, but he stayed up and made an excellent pass to Stern. The ball was about 24 inches away from the goal, Stern was unmarked, and that easy header, Stern put it  on the crossbar.    Chopra’s strike showed that he has some skills of a striker.  Edwards was excellent today.

LOL

Some people just born to hate other people

Keene glowing praises, Bruce glowing praises, but ah man on a message board still hating.

[andre samuel]

Stern getting a run..........Birmingham is a physical side and Stern's size with be a factor!

ah love it!!

Great prediction andre samuel, u really know your stuff.

ah love it!!

[Blue]

I rankles me to no end to see (presumably) grown-ass men with this 'hater' talk as though they'z some facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat.  Exactly what is the definition of 'hating' anyways...or is it that men here juss throwing arung words they hear others say in some feeble attempt to be hip?

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28899.msg329369#msg329369

I became a hater in the "Hand of God" game...could never root for Argentina.

hmmm what is goin on here?

Bake n Shark - explain! 

Yuh facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat 

[Bakes]

I rankles me to no end to see (presumably) grown-ass men with this 'hater' talk as though they'z some facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat.  Exactly what is the definition of 'hating' anyways...or is it that men here juss throwing arung words they hear others say in some feeble attempt to be hip?

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28899.msg329369#msg329369

I became a hater in the "Hand of God" game...could never root for Argentina.

hmmm what is goin on here?

Bake n Shark - explain! 

Yuh facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat 

Is it really that funny fella?


What should be evident is that the context isn't the same, as much as I don't like using the word 'hate' (I find it unnecessarily strong/negative) I've never made any bones about the fact that I detest any and all things Argentinian, including their style of play diving.  In the quote I'm speaking about my own feelings, which I am certain of.

As used in this thread and by the idiots in hip-hop where the term originated, "hate" or "hater" is used to label or typecast critics/criticism...usually painting it as being borne of jealousy "they just hatin' on me, that's all". I doubt anyone knows what lies in the heart of any other poster to say that they 'hate' or even detest Stern, or that their criticism of him here is borne of jealousy.  Yet man after man marching in lockstep dismissing any and all criticism of Stern as this petty 'hate'...which is hardly the case, and which I find particularly irritating.  Stern human like anybody else and not above reproach, if it fair to praise him then it's equally fair to criticise him in turn.

Hope that helps...but lemme know if there's anything else from my thousand + posts that you fellas need explained.

[Bakes]

Stern’s performance did not help his cause to stay at Sunderland or move up on the list of strikers.  A lot of people are cheering the goal, but it was a goal that did not demonstrate his skill as a striker.  In fact, to score that goal did not really require a lot of skills.  The real heartbreak was Stern missing the header.  Edwards had a fantastic run, the man beat a midfielder, then broke through two defenders, and was going down, but he stayed up and made an excellent pass to Stern. The ball was about 24 inches away from the goal, Stern was unmarked, and that easy header, Stern put it  on the crossbar.    Chopra’s strike showed that he has some skills of a striker.  Edwards was excellent today.

Agreed to an extent...it was timely and opportunistic, but at the end of the day that's really all that matters.

[rocwell]

extended highlights available at:
http://rapidshare.com/files/49243425/Birmingham_vs_Sunderland_-_Highlights.AVI

[superoli]

nobody mention the WWE styles the sunderland player put on the keeper to stop him getting up  he make hulk hogan look soft   

[fishs]

The problem now for Stern will be actual playing time.
The sharpness not back there as yet, as a man say he should have scored with the first header.
The more match time he gets the sharper he'll get.
If he sits on the bench and keeps getting corbeau sweat, he'll lose his edge and that could be the end of him and the black cats.

This happened to him when Birmingham went up and Bruce brought in Heskey. Yorke and a couple other strikers, he moved from starter to bencher to job seeker.

Hope you come through this Stern, you deserve it for the hard work you put in.

[Bakes]

nobody mention the WWE styles the sunderland player put on the keeper to stop him getting up  he make hulk hogan look soft   

Not sure it would have mattered...good non-call by the ref, if he happen to legitimately fall on de man (as appeared to be the case) then he not obligated to hurry up off de ground, keeper have to shed he himself, he not untouchable.


Other observations:

Chopra= Cold-blooded assassin (even though it early still)


Great pace, balance, accuracy and overall skill by Carlos on the miss by Stern...man how far this dude has come in the span of 18 or so months.

Whither Yorke? 

Craig Gordon has been ordinary...pedestrian even, in the two games thus far.

[Trinitim]

Well done rocwell!!!!

[superoli]

on match of the day they show the figure four move in full
the man fall and pull the keeper right arm down and keep holding him it was deliberate the keeper didnt have a chance of getting back up.

[Filho]

Stern’s performance did not help his cause to stay at Sunderland or move up on the list of strikers.  A lot of people are cheering the goal, but it was a goal that did not demonstrate his skill as a striker.  In fact, to score that goal did not really require a lot of skills.  The real heartbreak was Stern missing the header.  Edwards had a fantastic run, the man beat a midfielder, then broke through two defenders, and was going down, but he stayed up and made an excellent pass to Stern. The ball was about 24 inches away from the goal, Stern was unmarked, and that easy header, Stern put it  on the crossbar.    Chopra’s strike showed that he has some skills of a striker.  Edwards was excellent today.

Stern was in the right place at the right time to finish. And that is a skill all managers appreciate. He also showed srength of character to put himself back in a position to score after a seemingly glaring miss. Stern was also on the field for 30 minutes I think. So it's not only the goal he will be judged by. I also believe Stern's physical presence was a factor in that 1st goal. So Keane might like that as well. Didn't see the game, just highlights, so I can't comment any more on Stern's performance. As for the miss..I just think Carlos was so close to him when he crossed that Stern did not have enough time to really get over the ball and snap downwards. He didn't seem to have much time to apply any technique. In the end..i think he helped his cause. Keane needs forwards who can score goals at this level..So far only 2 have proved that they can

Glad to hear Edwards was excellent..but he was at fault for the 1st goal. Woeful defending at the far post..By all reports he played well and that run for the cross to Stern is a prime example of his worth..and he is still not match fit (the reason why he got injured)

GO T&T

[arrow]

Whither Yorke? 

He's probably just getting some rest as it's a lot to ask an old man to play 3 matches in a week at that level

Expect him back on Saturday unless he picked up a knock I haven't heard about

[freakazoid]

on match of the day they show the figure four move in full
the man fall and pull the keeper right arm down and keep holding him it was deliberate the keeper didnt have a chance of getting back up.

all unfair games does play over..............sunderland should have gotten a penalty b4


fact is keane has been in the market for john like striker...one who has physical presence can hold up d ball and lay it off and yes one who can finish too......... he hasnt found one yet thats y i think john was kept on, because none of the other strikers at sunderland have that sorta physical presence

john boy ah know if u didnt play in any of the 1st 3 games yuh goose d cook but now more mins will be coming your way. the ball back on yuh right foot (ball back in yuh court)  take yuh chance and run with it.

[dinho]

I rankles me to no end to see (presumably) grown-ass men with this 'hater' talk as though they'z some facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat.  Exactly what is the definition of 'hating' anyways...or is it that men here juss throwing arung words they hear others say in some feeble attempt to be hip?

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28899.msg329369#msg329369

I became a hater in the "Hand of God" game...could never root for Argentina.

hmmm what is goin on here?

Bake n Shark - explain! 

Yuh facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat 

Is it really that funny fella?


What should be evident is that the context isn't the same, as much as I don't like using the word 'hate' (I find it unnecessarily strong/negative) I've never made any bones about the fact that I detest any and all things Argentinian, including their style of play diving.  In the quote I'm speaking about my own feelings, which I am certain of.

As used in this thread and by the idiots in hip-hop where the term originated, "hate" or "hater" is used to label or typecast critics/criticism...usually painting it as being borne of jealousy "they just hatin' on me, that's all". I doubt anyone knows what lies in the heart of any other poster to say that they 'hate' or even detest Stern, or that their criticism of him here is borne of jealousy.  Yet man after man marching in lockstep dismissing any and all criticism of Stern as this petty 'hate'...which is hardly the case, and which I find particularly irritating.  Stern human like anybody else and not above reproach, if it fair to praise him then it's equally fair to criticise him in turn.

Hope that helps...but lemme know if there's anything else from my thousand + posts that you fellas need explained.

[dinho]

he was supposed to score that header that hit the post. no question. They was supposed to have three points. But he stuck to his task and save their blushes...

yuh know....

its comments like does make yuh really wonder..

who's to say if he scored that first header off the carlos cross to equalize, that he would even get another chance to score... Obviously Birmingham would have a different approach to the game at that stage.. you feel if that goal score the rest of the game woulda play out exactly as it did after the 82nd minute? steups

allyuh cyah be happy for people and done?? 

just give de man credit where credit is due and stop the unnecessary fault finding..

[just cool]

I rankles me to no end to see (presumably) grown-ass men with this 'hater' talk as though they'z some facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat.  Exactly what is the definition of 'hating' anyways...or is it that men here juss throwing arung words they hear others say in some feeble attempt to be hip?

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28899.msg329369#msg329369

I became a hater in the "Hand of God" game...could never root for Argentina.

hmmm what is goin on here?

Bake n Shark - explain!  

Yuh facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat  

Is it really that funny fella?



As used in this thread and by the idiots in hip-hop where the term originated, "hate" or "hater" is used to label or typecast critic

Sorry to disappoint yuh man, but i lived in the US especially in the ghetto most my life , and the first time i heard the phrase hater was in T&T in 1996 and from what i understand it was used since the early 90ies. black americans just started using that word in the mid ninties to indicate a dfisgruntled mutha F##ker. thus the phrase player hater,  then it dwindled to hater and hate. but trini beat them to it. trust me i know money.

[Peong]

Not sure it would have mattered...good non-call by the ref, if he happen to legitimately fall on de man (as appeared to be the case) then he not obligated to hurry up off de ground, keeper have to shed he himself, he not untouchable.

Ey yuh facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat, watch the video.

[Bakes]

all unfair games does play over..............sunderland should have gotten a penalty b4


fact is keane has been in the market for john like striker...one who has physical presence can hold up d ball and lay it off and yes one who can finish too......... he hasnt found one yet thats y i think john was kept on, because none of the other strikers at sunderland have that sorta physical presence

john boy ah know if u didnt play in any of the 1st 3 games yuh goose d cook but now more mins will be coming your way. the ball back on yuh right foot (ball back in yuh court)  take yuh chance and run with it.

...blatant shove in the back of O'Connor (?), in the box no less.

[Bakes]

Yuh could stop waving yuh panties now Omardumbho...Ass Sniffers Anonymous meeting in ah next thread.

Sorry to disappoint yuh man, but i lived in the US especially in the ghetto most my life , and the first time i heard the phrase hater was in T&T in 1996 and from what i understand it was used since the early 90ies. black americans just started using that word in the mid ninties to indicate a dfisgruntled mutha F##ker. thus the phrase player hater,  then it dwindled to hater and hate. but trini beat them to it. trust me i know money.

No disappointment here...if yuh say that's what yuh observed then that's what yuh observed 

[Midknight]

Watch nah....da was de best feeling. It was always my feeling that Keano was playing Stern this game. Moral of the story for we trinbagonaians.....stop panicking so. Stern is boss an will always be boss. Big Mag whey yuh?     

Lovely playing Stern-turn-inho. Allyuh notice de glowing praises from Keano and Bruce? They admiring him and nuff here jess hating. C'mon fellas, we can do better dan dat. Respec'

I rankles me to no end to see (presumably) grown-ass men with this 'hater' talk as though they'z some facking American ghetto li'l hoodrat.  Exactly what is the definition of 'hating' anyways...or is it that men here juss throwing arung words they hear others say in some feeble attempt to be hip?

I'm sure, you would probably be mortified to notice that you yourself have integrated quite a bit of the 'ghetto li'l hoodrat' vocabulary into your own, but then again I suppose watching yuh own posts ent your thing since yuh not into 'maccoing' right?

On another note, is amazing how many experts convinced that Stern 'shoulda' score the first attempt (notwithstanding how fast and high the ball met him) and that Sunderland 'shoulda' win 3-2 (notwithstanding the fact that if they had equalize and was down to 10 men when Carlos limp off they were very unlikely to be pressing for a winner)

I personally consider that some people 'shoulda' find another thing to call themselves than TNT supporters...