Posted by: Jon, SotonI wouldnt be surprised if he signed for pompey... not that redknapp would buy a piece of shi* like this. Jones does have the same morals as redknapp though!
Posted by: sam, londonI'm not surprised that he wants to move up to the premiership but I believe that the way he has treated Burley and the club by refusing to play is not on considering burley was the one who helped him develop into the player he is.
Posted by: ianAn absolute digrace to football, we have to make a stand at somepoint to stop our club becomming the laughing stock of football, let him rot in reserves.
Posted by: Davidian wrote: An absolute digrace to football, we have to make a stand at somepoint to stop our club becomming the laughing stock of football, let him rot in reserves.
I agree with you in -principle. However there is more to this situation than meets the eye. Who put Jones up to the stirke idea? No doubt his agent has soething to do with it but in any event the action is potentially ill advised as the PFA will no doubt have now told Jones. He can be sued for breach of contract. with Saints alleging serious breach of contract and claiming damages from the player. The club cannot allow the situation to damage the club so I HOPE they throw the book at Jones.
Posted by: Bryan Bridgwater, Courtice Ontario CanadaUnbelievable that something like this is allowed to happen. The player is under contract to Saints and there should be rules in place that protect the employer. Sadly there are no ethics anymore and the Agents are always looking to grease their own palms by taking a percentage of any new contract the player makes. The FA should not tolerate this and Clubs need some kind of protection from this happening Kenwyne Jones has lost any respect he might have had and personally I think the Club will be better off without him.
Posted by: Pete, StokeStoke fan looking in here - players like this should be left to rot in the reserves but that would be unfair to the club. We had the same problem with a player (Sam Bangoura) that even refused to return to the country and to the club that was paying his wages!! He wanted a move away and held the club to ransom
What premiership club is going to want an unproven striker that pulls this type of stunt?
Posted by: Matt, LiverpoolHe is **** anyway , a human battering ram , we do not need supposed players holding our club to ransom , get rid off the twat end off, he just needs a slap for being so snidey .
Posted by: kenisI want Jones to stay, I think he's a good player who is getting better and better and we missed him against palace. Rasiak / McGoldrick / Wright-Phillips / Saga are a potent force but are different types of strikers to Jones. BUT who in their right mind would turn down the chance to triple/quadrouple their earnings and raise their profile - not just for three years but for the rest of his career as players rarely drop their salaries. The club has done the right thing, the player has done the sensible thing for his future. I'd have like him to give us another season (or at least half a season) and a crack and getting him to the premiership with us, but so be it. Sell him, get a target man replacement and look forward to playing against him next season - in the prem - or wave as we swap places.
Posted by: Bryan, Up NorthI Hope George makes Kenwyn come to SMS today so he can feel the love from the fans. I guess wherever he is he'll still hear what we think of him. F**K OFF you Judas.
Posted by: Official Club Response, SouthamptonThe following response has sadly not been approved by Southampton Football Club but it's the line I hope they adopt - "Whilst Mr Jones is within his rights to submit a transfer request, refusing to play for the club is something else. We will not be held to ransom in this way by an individual. He will not be sold to Derby County, Sunderland or anyone else whilst this situation persists. Whilst Mr Jones will not now be considered for today's game with Stoke, we hope he will alter his stance and make himself available for the QPR trip on September 1st, the day after the transfer window closes. Mr Jones will be afforded training facilities throughout this period but will not be permitted to train with the 1st team squad whilst he is refusing to play for the club. So, as of today, Mr Jones is not available for transfer, is being penalised financially for the stance he has taken but will be welcomed back into the squad should he elect to make himself available for selection once more." But I rather suspect the club will take the money and get shot of him, which will be a pity as it will vindicate this unacceptable behaviour
Posted by: DAN B, BOURNEMOUTHOH DEAR, ANOTHER SHORT TERM THINKING MUPPET, DERBY ARE 'ABSOLUTE CERTAINTIES' TO BE PLAYING CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL NEXT SEASON AND IF HE GOT HIS BACKSIDE IN GEAR HE COULD BE IN THE PREMIERSHIP NEXT SEASON WITH SAINTS, THERES OBVIOUSLY MORE TO THIS AND YOU CAN ALWAYS RIGHTLY POINT THE FINGER AT THE GREEDY AGENT REALISING THAT HE CAN GET A CUT OF A PLAYER WHO HAS BEEN VALUED AT AROUND TWICE HIS MARKET VALUE, THE AGENT KNOWS HE'S UNLIKELY TO GET OFFERED THIS SORT OF MONEY FOR THE PLAYER AGAIN SO HAS TO UNSETTLE HIM, THE RULES NEED LOOKING AT COS THESE PLAYERS ACT LIKE SPOILT BRATS AND SEEM TO FORGET WHO GOT THEM WERE THEY ARE NOW, THE ONLY LOYAL ONES ARE THE FANS. I SAY FLOG HIM NOW AND THEN STICK A CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT THAT IF SAINTS ARE IN THE PREMIERSHIP NEXT SEASON AND DERBY GO DOWN HE HAS TO RESIGN FOR SAINTS AS ASSISTANT TEALADY.
Posted by: THE RELEGATORWell done KJ you have done what most SFC players would like to do,hope you get your deserved move soon and avoid the ridicule of RELEGATION at SMS.
Posted by: Me hat on fire, 30 miles from Skate LandI always thought that players signed a contract that stated they want to play football for this club.This man clearly does not want to play for us again so only two answers sell him for 6 million or stop his pay!
Posted by: hil, sotoni think he is very unprofesional people go on strike to improve working conditions in the real world, after several consultations between union and companys only then are they legaly allowed to strike. he should try working in a factory with conditions we have to put up with . if i was a derby fan i would hope he didnt come to us. i hope we never sign anyone else this unprofesional again!!!! i hope he has had his wages stopped as we would if on strike!
Posted by: jamie, hedge endungrateful **** he'll b bk wit derby stupid **** !!!
Posted by: JocksterIf he doesn't want to play, get rid of him! £5million pounds for him - deal of the season! If Derby want to pay that for him, more fool them!
Posted by: Fielder, Southamptonweve lost out either way , if he gets sold we won't see the money , if he stays we know he doesn't wanna play for us anymore........... another humilation at St Mary's ffs
Posted by: GS, Hedge EndHeres to hoping the fact he's handed in a transfer request wont decrease how much Derby are willing to pay for him.
Posted by: PatThis is an another example of how anybody who thinks they have any talent wants out of this club.Another vivid example of the lowly level that the administration of the club has now dropped to. In essence we have the inmates running the mad house. Everything is crumbling from within. George Burley has to be like the little Dutch boy trying to plug all the holes in the dike. As soon as he gets one hole plugged a leak springs somewhere else. Right now team spirit and loyalty has to be about as low as it can possibly get.
Posted by: WatchdogHow is it the club's fault? It's an example of another greedy scumbag player who thinks first and foremost with his wallet and how much bling he can grab himself. He was nothing a few years ago, Saints made him into a footballer and this is how we are repaid. He can't even act like a man, he's acting like a spoilt little kid. Forget the size of Jones, he's nothing but a wimp and I hope any Saints fan who may bump into him, tells him exactly what they think of him. Get lost Jones, hope you go to Derby and do your knee in first game and that's your career over. Footballers, 99% of them are tóssers.
Posted by: pete, lymingtonget rid of him now he is not fit to wear the red and white,plus fine him for refusing to play.if anyone of us where to refuse to work for your boss what would happen to you,get sacked. com on you saints
Posted by: WazzaGet rid of Kenwyn, I'd be surprised if he managed to get into double figures in the prem. Sell the turncoat ASAP, bolster the defence and get a replacement striker.
Posted by: PJRHow can this be the clubs fault? Bottom line is that he wants bigger money and is happy to go and play for Derby for the next 8 months before returning to the Championship next season, and then the whole cycle will start again. As far as I'm concerned he can get lost and maybe we can get Howard and Moore in return. It's clear that someone has whispered in his ear that if he takes this course of action then a club will be willing to buy him.
Posted by: leigh, coventryhaving been brought up on Channon, Osgood, Shearer, Keegan, Worthington, Letiss etc etc it pained me to know that as a fan I was paying the wages of the untalented, lumbersome spoilt brat that is jones. Get him out asap and lets see natural players such as Rasiak, Saga, McGoldrick and Lallana given there chance. Jones & Derby deserve each other.
Posted by: MikeGreedy and ungratful! The bloke could hardly kick a ball when he came to Saints but was given a chance cause the coaches said he was a gifted athlete with lots of potential. And this is how he repays the club. I say cash in on the £5mil (never in a million years worth that), then sit back and watch him get splinters at Derby. Plenty of better people to play up front at the club. Come on you RED AND WHITE MACHINE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: PatSorry guys. I am a Saints fan and love the club as much as the next guy. But the fact is the club is run by a group of incompetents and the players know it even if some fans refuse to see it. At the moment they know the club has no future and they all want out. Their behavior is despicable but that's the way players are these days. No loyalty. Only the fans are truly loyal to the club.
Posted by: patred, East ANGLIAWe should not forget Derby's part in all this. Nor his agent. Has he been [bold]'instructed'[/bold] to take this drastic step?? It stinks to me, and the FA should investigate the affair.
Posted by: what a c**tgrab the money with both hands. He's not worth two million let alone five - that's a coulpe of good championship players and he'll flop in the premiership that's for sure. good riddance.
Posted by: Stu, New ForestGood riddance - even Ali Dia was better than Jones....and i'm not kidding. Said it weeks ago, anything over 2 Mill for this clown id a deal of the century. Get shot now.
Posted by: Kingsland Boy, New ForestI suppose we should have seen this coming. Billy Davies with his continual comments to the press along with a greedy agent have obviously unsettled Jones. Bearing in mind that he has only been a pro for two years or so £5m is a pretty good return. I'm not convinced he is EPL standard - yet. He might be in two years time but he won't developed by Davies and Derby. Sunderland might be a better move for him. Keane would develop him. For Saints - the money must be reinvested in the squad either now or in January. A good centre back, two full backs and a creative midfielder please. I understand that there's no love lost between GB & Davies stemming back to their time at Ayr(?)I hope GB and the Board (League?)ensure that Davies is left in no doubt that his behaviour has been unacceptable.
Posted by: Dan Lowe, Southamptonlets all cast our minds back to the World Cup..... Jones looked out of his depth in the group matches against some of the 'lesser' players in the tournament, and most of those wouldnt shine in the Premiership. Imagine how poor he'll look against top quality players week in week out. Sell him for as much as we can get NOW. Use the money to buy at least two defenders and then lets pass him and Drby next season as they go down and we go up!!! Come on, we're only 3 weeks into the season after all. There is plenty of time to get things right.
Posted by: SFC4EVA, SouthamptonGet rid of this PRE-MADONNA now! He's the same as all the rest! Use saints to learn the trade then move on to bigger things...only it has been proved recently that they don't always go on to bigger things do they?! Look at Beatie, Walcott, Davis (Kevin)...all went chasing money and where are they now?! If Derby hadn't spouted off about wanting him he would have been happy staying at saints and scoring goals for us! Saints are nothing more than a developmental club that brings players up and sells them on. We have been for years but for some reason the money we make from these players never gets invested back into the team but feeds the greedy people in power! Get 5 mil for him or 3 mil plus a player maybe?! Whatever we get for him has to go straight back into buying new players!
Posted by: shaun, southamptonThis spoilt brat is under contract with saints,he wont get his own way so he goes on strike!! ,i he and says he wont play for us again,i know we need the money but we are being held to ransom! why not teach these jumped up overpayed
? a lesson and let him see out his contract in the reserves
Posted by: The_Shotster, SouthamptonI just hope that Derby (who will eventually get OUR man!) are brought to book by the Football League for tapping up and unsettling Kenwyne. If he wants to go to Derby then that's his choice. He will get a maximum of 30 games as starter or sub before Derby get the push from the Premier League because they WILL GO DOWN. The supporters had better brace themselves! Naughty Derby, tut-tut!
Posted by: ARB, Southampton£5million+ deal of the decade, no one rated him till the middle of last season. Take the money and lets start playing McGoldrick he will be a much better player.
Posted by: James Beresford, LutonOk..call his bluff. If he's on strike, without having taken a ballot etc and given 2 weeks notice to the club, Saints can stop his wages immediately. So we don't pay him, thereby keeping the dosh and he can rot on the sidelines. Then only go for what we value him...and £5 million is too low..Derby can have him for £7.5 million..all of it up friont, not in stages
Ok..call his bluff. If he's on strike, without having taken a ballot etc and given 2 weeks notice to the club, Saints can stop his wages immediately. So we don't pay him, thereby keeping the dosh and he can rot on the sidelines. Then only go for what we value him...and £5 million is too low..Derby can have him for £7.5 million..all of it up friont, not in stages
Posted by: Jon, SotonJust when i thought that perhaps loyalty was going to be a key with Jones and he stayed, he has pulled out the dagger and stabbed us (the fans and team) in our backs. Has any player got any real passion for their team anymore. Like old le tiss and current Surman. When we brought Jones he was nothing and gradually we have started to turn him into a good footballer. Soon as he gets a sniff of the big time, hes off. It is a sad state of affairs, but its all about money these days. Well Mr JONES, i hope you go to Derby, you play crap, get dropped and become a what could have been!!! I just hope you dont face the saints faithful again. Come on Burley, just make sure you take at least the five mill for him and now ask for Moore as part of the deal.
Posted by: saintsmadSeeing he is on strike and refusing to play does that mean saints will be stopping his wage from immediate effect. players have too much power these days, if it were not for the fact that 5mil would be very helpful I would be tempted to do what leeds utd did when one of thier players did the same thing, kept him on contract, refused to play him even in the reserves for 2 years, by that time nobody wanted him!
Posted by: Bugger off Jones, St marysI hope the club stop his wages. He is acting like a child. Who the hell does he think he is. Hes nothing, and not only is he being disloyal to the club by his behaviour, i cant believe he wants to go to the team that stopped us from promotion. I saw him in town not so long ago, parading around in a Bentley with BWP. Can we get rid of them both. Jones is clearly in it for the bling (beware other clubs) and BWP is useless. Its a shame we could not just leave him in the dark whilst hes on contract. As saintsmad mentioned with Leeds. I think it was Tomas Brolin that they did it to mate!
Posted by: PJRWe turned down the bid, Burley said it was his decision and then Jones takes it out of his hands. Basically it's a money issue - he'll get shed loads more even if he's only in the Prem for one season and will therefore be better off financially. I have no issue with players leaving, but if you sign a contract then you should have the intention of seeing it out. If the club says you stay, then you stay. If you don't like the contract length when it's put in front of you then don't sign it. However, players want security but aren't prepared to see it through if a better offer comes along even if the club doesn't want to sell. Still, £5m for him is fantastic business.
Posted by: paul, isle of wighthope you rot in the reserves.just get lost jones and move to darby and then we will see if your any good.i hope you come back for another team we will make your life hell.
Posted by: Patience of a Saint !, SouthamptonSo the soap opera continues! The script was written when the arrogant Baird repayed his loyalty to the club and fans by demanding a transfer! Instead of putting him straight into the reserves to stew and see out his agreed and signed contract he got what he wanted. That was seen by some players, who have got way above themselves, as a green light to do the same. Put Jones in the reserves for a few weeks, he'll soon change his tune and it will send a message out, to those that need to see it, that the club still insist on some basic standards from its players. IF and it is a BIG IF, there are interested investors still willing to end this summer of soap opera, then the board must stop holding them to ransom with their unrealistic demands, before there is little left for them to be interested in, and they walk away. When the investment is there the club can move forward from all this nonsense, untill then.... Tune in same time for tomorrows episode and Lets hope its 3 points gained and not another comedy of errors by highly paid proffessionals!
Posted by: David, OxfordThe way things are being handled at Board level, you can understand to a degree why a player would be concerned about their future and be flattered by an approach by a premiership (however fleeting) club. That said the situation hasn't happened overnight, Jones has known about the interest for some time but we assume, assured the manager that he intended to stay. If he isn't man enough to be honest from the start, perhaps him and Derby deserve each other. Just do it now, get the money in and buy somebody that will show more committment to their club
Posted by: adamI am absolutely gutted,not for the fact that jones is a great player because hes not but just because this has all come before a very important game tomorrow,knowing saints it will give us a negative feeling and we'll crumble against stoke (it usually happens).i also feel that 5 million would be great if we had 3 weeks left of the transfer window but seen as though we only have a week i dont see us replacing him therefore were gonna be short.is it just me or does every saints fan feel totally let down and deflated by this news.im absolutely gutted and would not be surprised if we collapse tomorrow.
Posted by: Ed caseas i predicted way back KJ would be sold. now we have a story very reminiscent of the Wayne Rooney leaving everton saga. let me refresh your memory. rooney played well for his club, product of their youth structure eventually went for over £20m... but could everton say thanks wayne, and thanks Man u for the cash. no... they embarked on a spin campaign to make it look like Wayne wanted to go, and they had no option but to take the measly £20m and be gone with him... that episode made everton look very bad amongst professionals. it wasn't necessary, they thought it would make them look good in the fans eye... now look at all the comments, alleged but never followed up on illeagal approaches concerning KJ (and Vaifara) even in this paer yesterday GB was saying no sale! when apparently (if you believe a fecking word of it) KJ had already done the dirty and threw in, a totally unsolicited transfer request. wake up and smell millbrook!!! the board told GB "we are going to sell by the end of the transfer window, you put out what stories you like to make it look like it wasn't yours or a club decision, and you might get £1m from the deal to strengthen the squad". this is the oldest manager/board trick in the book...... you need to open your eyes!! GB has his hands tied, if he rocks the boat he will go, and he knows what chance there is of being compensated right now. Viafara will go next week.
Posted by: JocksterHe has let his team mates down and let's hope that this will galvanise them to produce a great performance and three points!
Jones is a waster, loser and not worth £5m, let's hope no one comes in for him and the only time we see him is on a cold Tuesday night at Staplewood in the reserves playing with younger lads who are far more skilful and who try 100% more than him!
Shame on you Jones!
Posted by: Phil, DowntonOn a personal note I think Jones does not have the football brain to match his football brawn and hope we get 5 million plus for him. I hope that despite the newspsper shock headlines George has seen this coming and has a replacement lined up before the window closes.
For me I am a Saint and will support the team, not the players as individuals. Players come and go but I cannot waste my life over players who have been and gone, often displaying a total lack of loyalty to the club which has more than often made them!!!. I can only support what we have got today to the best of my ability.
So long Jones, hope you do better than Beattie.
Posted by: saints fan, southamptonLet him train with the youths till his contract finishes or if he doesnt want that and goes awol then stop his pay, just make sure he never wears a saints shirt again! hopefully when his contract has expired no one in premership will want him!! Anyway the teams who are after you jones are crap and will be back down after a year and with that you would of shown the whole premership that your not as good as you think your just a championship player!!
Posted by: Saint George, SouthamptonHow about this chant for 2moro; He's big, He's quick, He's a money-grabbing pr*ck, Kenwyne Jones, Kenwyne Jones, WE HATE KENWYNE, WE HATE KENWYNE!
Posted by: Mad Mike, TottonI'm disgusted with the player's attitude. The football league should be able to impose some sort of sanction on him. It is purely greed on the players part and it is an insult to the club who have improved him as a player beyond recognition. It would be tempting to say that he should play out his contract in the reserves but that would be financial suicide on the club's part. I can't see that any aspect of this saga can be blamed on the club - it is symptomatic of the attitude of many young players in the game today. Obviously he will now need to be sold but it only gives Burley a week to bring in a replacement. I re-iterate that the player is a disgrace to the club and to his profession.
Posted by: Dave, MillbrookJones = Over raited greedy Wanka! Good Riddance to the Coont!
Posted by: saints1974Let him go it will be a good laugh to see him in the prem no way is he good enough. The money is laughable and who wants a player at the club who holds us to ransom. I miss Le Tiss an amazing player and loyal would pay a fortune to see him play again as for Jones maybe 50p would cover a ticket to see him.
Posted by: Steve Smith, AbingdonSign of the times I am afraid! Jones has improved in the last year, but prior to that he was one of the worst professional footballers I have ever seen in terms of control and awareness, but now he apparently thinks he's Ronaldinho! As I said a few weeks ago, we should drive him to Derby for £5million. (Doubt if Keane will touch him with a bargepole now, or any other manager worth his salt, so Derby it is!) Pity it's a bit late to spend the money, but McGoldrick is in a different class anyway!
Posted by: jason, southampton(on hols in majorca)take the 5 millon he is not fit to wear the shirt no more.give the money to george and get someone who is willing to play for the club
Posted by: Steve Smith, AbingdonPS...if I refused to do my job , I would get the sack, and if football had any honour left, no-one would touch Jones after this. Anyway, I do not want this sort of player at my club and congatulations to Derby for getting a great 'pro'!
Posted by: Matt, SouthamptonIt would be just punishment if noone came in for him now. Problem is managers feel they can change players hence why Anelka still manages to find work.
Posted by: david warner, gosportkenwyne jones is an absoloute disgrace and has shown a total lack of proffesionalism and class as a footballer and as a person. get rid of him now, i dont care if its for 1 pence let alone 5 million! there are people in this world who want to work but cant get a job, or cant work due to health and he's nothing but a footballer who is overpaid and lets face it over rated and he refuses to "work" because he wants to go to derby county (who will probably be relegated anyway). he's just in it for the money(like too many players these days) if i were at derby after hearing this i wouldn't want a player like that coming to my club no matter how good he is. i'd withdraw the offer. at saints in the situation that we're in we need players who will give everything for the shirt, the team, the city, the fans and yes for themselves too. if they're not prepared to do that then they're no good. sell him now and if jones needs some help in packing his bags i'd be more than happy to help. stick rasiak and saganowski up front and let them build a partnership, they'll get us goals, and with powell alongside thomas at the heart of defence we'll soon sure that defence up. its gonna be 2 nil to the saints tommorrow and then we'll all feel a little better about things,then jones will be gone and soon forgotten and we'll wave to him as we pass them when we go up and they're going down!
Posted by: Steve Reynolds, SouthamptonPoor old Kenwyne, the grass may look a lot greener up in Derby at the moment (having been there I assure you it isn't) but this time next season when you're back in the Championship will you be looking (or perhaps your agent will on you behalf) for another mediocre club to join? If you don't want to stay give Bradley W-P or McGoldrick a chance. Perhaps playing those who want to be there will help our current predicament.
Posted by: derek james, gosportwhatever else happens he has alienated the fans and cannot possibly play for this club again. the only sensible thing to do is get as much as possible for him.
Posted by: Ian, TurkeyMuch as it would be nice that he is punished by rotting in the reserves, realistically it will never happen. The bean counters will not allow,nor afford, an asset to see out a contract in this way and will give in to his demands for the money. I only hope the club have the bottle to stop his wages and take him to court for breach of contract in refusing to play. As is always the case, the scum in football will win.
