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Re: Serie A 2011/2012 Thread
« Reply #270 on: February 05, 2012, 12:42:05 PM »
Ibra is an imps! He do ah Drogba and get himself sent off!

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« Reply #271 on: February 26, 2012, 01:35:04 PM »
Milan scored two but only credited with one. Not sure what the linesman was seeing or looking at when Bufon pulled the ball from behind the line.
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« Reply #272 on: February 26, 2012, 05:28:41 PM »
muntari's goal was a goal obviously but in no way would that have closed out the match at the 25th minute like most are trying to make it out to be. conte got the lineup and the formation wrong. we do not have the personnel for 3-5-2 AND he went on to start estigaribbia and boriello..2 of our worst players..and it showed.

i can assure u that every juventini was cussin when we saw that...we operate best in a 4-3-3 and it showed in the middle of the second half when boriello and estigaribia was replaced by vucinic and pepe..

with the 4-3-3 milan literally didnt make a note in Turin and we played much better when we switched to that system in the match yesterday..

juventus scored two but only credited with one. milan making it out to be more than just a refereeing mistake..claiming conspiracy etc etc and that Juventus put pressure on the referees with comments during the week..to anybody that knows the structure of football in italy and the media there would laugh at this

anyway, galliani went into the referees dressing room and had a word with them which of course ure not supposed to do but u not hearing that in the mainstream are you?

and after Galliani went to the refs' locker room:

- Mexes wasn't red carded
- Matri had a disallowed goal
- Muntari wasn't given a second yellow

and he want to talk bullshit about pressuring referees?

u would never see these thing highlighted because the italian media/figc etc are all sympathetic to milan as they have a set of milan and inter sycophants at the top of those organisations..

why no noise on

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and lets not forget the countless non-penalties given for milan this season so far

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you dont hear them talking about that do they? yet when krasic dived last season the only thing they aint do was carry him to the international criminal court

at halftime their was an exchange between galliani and juve staff and i think galliani left the stadium becasue his blood pressure went up...he and conte exchanged words also..he said something like "Complaining to the media obviously helped" and Conte shouted "This coming from the mafia"


ibra for all his assholery said it best

"The goal should have been given but mistakes happen and it is not the reason we didn't win,” said Ibrahimovic.
“Juventus worked for the point until the end and they deserved to take it home. The result was fair.”

Allegri and company crying about the 2 mistakes were not equal and theirs more decisive yet this is what he says after the game vs bologna

"I've seen the situation again and Seedorf indeed seemed to handle the ball. However, toward the end a similar situation didn't result in a spot kick for us either," Allegri told reporters at the post-match press conference. "As for Ibrahimovic's penalty, I think that he dived in order to win a spot kick. The referee got it wrong, but his decisions went against both teams and not just against one of the two, so it evens itself out."

look, milan, allyuh just f**k away...long ago there were milan players i actually respected as footballers and as men...now? hmm..

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Re: Serie A 2011/2012 Thread
« Reply #273 on: February 26, 2012, 05:39:25 PM »
Juve just goin through a restructurin period.
They still ain't replace all the refs that used to be on the payroll.

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« Reply #274 on: March 11, 2012, 09:26:00 AM »
Ibra just score a top goal dey.  Must-see. Great passes to set it up and an amazing finish.
2-0 to AC over Lecce.

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« Reply #275 on: April 09, 2012, 07:39:04 PM »
now all the chatter in the Spanish Football thread made me want to update you guys on the plans of teams in the serie a for their new stadia..off course we all know that this is one of the most important things we have to do inorder to change the face and up the marketability of the league...we have talented players here just that nobody wanna watch...

alot of clubs are waiting on a law to be passes so they can go ahead with/develop plans for their new stadia because at present they are being hindered by the city councils who stand to lose millions by renting out their shit municipal stadia


NAPOLI

d president and the mayor of naples agreed on a location to build the stadium and the project will be presented soon..


FIORENTINA

Currently planning to build a stadium of about 40 000 seats. The location of the stadium has been agreed and works are supposed to start before the end of 2012. It will cost between 180 and 200 million euros.

AS BARI

Plans for the restructuration of the Stadio San Nicola. They plan to remove the athletic track, reduce the capacity from 58 000 to 40 000 seats. It will cost about 70 millions. The club wants to get it done and start works soon as they are currently midtable in Serie B and think that this project will be essential to make it back to Serie A.

AS Roma

The plan has already been proposed to the city council and the club has found It will have 50-55 000 seats. The club had already found the location to build the stadium. The new owner of the club expects the stadium to be completed within 5 years(2016).

ATALANTA BERGAMO:

It will cost about 250 million euros and will have 26-28 000 seats. They hope to start construction soon and have it ready for the 2013-2014 season. They will also build a shopping mall and restaurants next to the stadium, much like mine (Juve!)









CAGLIARI CALCIO

new stadium from that hellish rustbucket they have there..things so bad they now have to use another stadium in Trieste for their home matches like d one v inter d other day

It will have 23 600 seats and will be ready for the 2013-2014 season. Works will start soon and it will cost only about 40 million euros. The club has already started building the stadium in mainland Italy and they will bring it to Cagliari by boat. This is why it will only take about 6 months to build the stadium once Cellino, the president will have the authorization of the city to begin work on the agreed site.





CATANIA

ah rel like this team. montella have them playing some rel nice football...hope he stays but some side may want to poach him..

Plans for a new 30 000-35 000 seats stadium have been unveiled by the club. It will cost between 80 and 100 million euros. It looks pretty nice. They plan to start the works in 2013 and it will take year and a half to build, so it will be probably ready for the 2014-2015 season.





HELLAS VERONA

city rivals of chievo verona who in serie a...i would like them to come up from serie b..i think theyre 3rd now...they have the greater fan support in verona...they have some good attendences for their home matches even in b...and d season before that they were in serie c so they rising..glad fuh dem

Plans for the construction of a new stadium of 30 000 seats, which will cost 200 million euros. It will be modeled on Shalke's stadium, with a retractable roof and other costly features, and a shopping mall. The club and the mayor of the city have found an agreement in November 2011. They plan to complete it within 2 years for the 2013-2014 season.



NOVARA

all this was hinged on them still being in serie a so it lookin like they gonna get relegated so probably plans might be scrapped...they are Juventus' Piedmont rivals..cant say i relly cater for them

Plans for the compete restructuration of the Stadio Silvio Piola di Novara. It will have 21 000 seats and will cost 10,5 million euros. The expansion works should be finished for the start of the 2012-2013 season.



UDINESE

the average attendences at usinese has been around 17000 hence this seeimingly low figure of 25000 they want to restructure ut at...i think at present it is around 40,000

It will have 25 000 for football games and 30 000 for concerts. It would cost about 25 million euros. They want it to be ready for the 2013-2014 season. Works have been started already.





PALERMO

pink slime and madman zamperini

It will cost 200 million euros and will have 35 000 seats. It will allegedly take 18 months to build and the club expects to have it ready for the 2013-2014 season.





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« Reply #276 on: April 09, 2012, 07:41:04 PM »
as it stands this is the table..


R   Team     P   W   D   L   GF   GA   GD   Pts   Form
1   Juventus   31   17   14   0   51   17   +34   65   DDWWWW
2   AC Milan   31   19   7   5   61   26   +35   64   WWWWDL

3   Lazio           31   16   6   9   47   38   +9   54   WLLWLW
4   Udinese   31   14   9   8   43   29   +14   51   DLDDLW
5   Napoli           31   12   12   7   55   38   +17   48   WWDDLL
6   Roma           31   14   5   12   49   41   +8   47   LWWLWL
7   Inter           31   13   6   12   45   44   +1   45   DWDLWD
8   Catania   31   10   13   8   41   41   0   43   DWWDDL
9   Chievo   31   11   9   11   30   39   -9   42   DLDDWW
10   Siena           31   10   9   12   36   32   +4   39   WWLDWW
11   Palermo   31   11   6   14   44   49   -5   39   LLDDWL
12   Cagliari   31   9   11   11   33   38   -5   38   LLWLWD
13   Atalanta   31   10   13   8   34   33   +1   37   DDDWLL
14   Bologna   31   9   10   12   32   38   -6   37   DWDLLD
15   Fiorentina   31   9   9   13   32   38   -6   36   DLLDLW
16   Parma   31   8   11   12   39   50   -11   35   DDLDWL
17   Genoa   31   9   8   14   42   57   -15   35   DDLDLD
18   Lecce           31   7   10   14   35   47   -12   31   DLDDDW
19   Novara   31   5   10   16   27   52   -25   25   LWWDLD
20   Cesena   31   4   8   19   18   47   -29   20   DLLDDD


Juventus Remaining Fixtures:

Juventus vs Lazio   
Cesena vs Juventus   
Juventus vs Roma   
Novara vs Juventus   
Juventus vs Lecce   
Cagliari vs Juventus   
Juventus vs Atalanta   

AC Milan remaining Fixtures:

Chievo vs AC Milan   
AC Milan vs Genoa   
AC Milan vs Bologna   
Siena vs AC Milan   
AC Milan vs Atalanta   
Inter vs AC Milan   
AC Milan vs Novara

I can see us losing points really...the only real test is definitely lazio on wednesday other than that we're too hungry and angry and have great focus and motivation from antonio conte. of course if you look at games in bulk u cant see a team possibly winning all games on the trot to the end of the season but this juventus takes it game by game and credit to the icon antonio conte for that...our defense is really solid and we just have to hope our forward players chip in with some goals.

milan on the other hand continue to cry about injuries and the refereeing (anyone who has followed serie a this season wil laugh hysterically at that)..i see them losing more points because they face some tricky teams and also u have the game against inter who are doing poorly but form is irrelevant going into a derby of that nature..

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« Reply #277 on: April 09, 2012, 08:03:24 PM »
Sweet scissors kick from Mauri...

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« Reply #278 on: April 09, 2012, 08:08:49 PM »
 mukumsplau what do you think about Juve making a run at Balotelli & Rossi for next season. They need better strikers for the champions league next season.

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« Reply #279 on: April 10, 2012, 07:01:39 AM »
mukumsplau what do you think about Juve making a run at Balotelli & Rossi for next season. They need better strikers for the champions league next season.


this guy?  ;D


despite what people outside of serie a followers think, juventus fans think that he his an immense talent and is someone that we would like to have of course...they were mainly giving him licks because at the time he was an inter player and still is an ac milan fan..however his 'indiscipline' has been so so overplayed that we are conscious of the effect that it may have on the same spirit of the team that has driven us under antonio conte. that being said, antonio conte is ah general and i believe one of the few coaches that i think can probably deal with him..he seems to have excellent man management skills and one of the things he instills in u is the importance of the shirt. the juventus shirt is a thousand times heavier and more important than that of man city's...there is nothing sobering about mancity's history or importance as a club....conte has a say in transfers anyway...he didnt even flinch to send felipe melo away...all juve fans agree that melo is a headcase and as such a liability...

in any case balo has a love affair with the city of milan...turin has a slow pace to it and not all that glitz and glamour off the field that he seems to enjoy so if he were to combe back to italy it will be with either ac or inter even though we have very good relations with mino raiola..thanks to nedved off course..

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« Reply #280 on: April 10, 2012, 07:10:17 AM »
as for rossi...he's a good player but as a support to a marquee player...we play 424/433/352 mainly 433 and we in dire need of a world class 20+ goals CF and a world class RW

rossi cut style last summer then went and get a serious injury..now tell me who goin to splash money on him after that? but the thing with juventus is that we always try maintain the tradition of supplying players to the azzuri and its widely known that a strong juventus means a strong italy

we are targeting for CF cavani, torres, damiao, higuain, dzeko
for that wide forward role suarez,  gaston ramirez, jovetic, robben, lavezzi

i think we may be bringing back giovinco as conte likes him

and we supposed to be getting a youth prospect like gabbiadini(atalanta)/destro(siena) and maybe pogba/kondogbia/verratti

reinforcements in the midfield may be asamoah from udinese

and in the back we need someone at LB im hearing kolarov/peluso

and summer freebies too like jefferson farfan
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« Reply #281 on: April 11, 2012, 03:50:12 PM »
JUVE! STORIA DI UN GRANDE AMORE!!!!!!
back to the top of the table convincingly...lazio were a difficult starts but we dominated from start to finish...should have had alot more goals to we name tho



Scores from today:

Parma 2 : 0 Novara   
Fiorentina 0 : 0 Palermo   
Inter   2 : 1 Siena1   
Roma   3 : 1 Udinese   
Napoli 1 : 3 Atalanta   
Genoa 1 : 1 Cesena   
Juventus 2 : 1 Lazio
Catania1 : 2 Lecce   
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« Reply #282 on: May 08, 2012, 11:20:37 AM »
FINO ALLA FINE, FORZA JUVENTUS!!!!


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Why Juve title is a triumph for three underdogs

The Old Lady is back on top of Italian football - but this time she's done it with team spirit and a trio of fairytale stories


Juventus goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon celebrates with fans
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Campioni d’Italia! Campioni d’Italia! Juventus are the champions of Italy and what a journey it’s been for the Old Lady, who for six years suffered torment as she lost her superiority and acclimatised to mediocrity.

This is the story of a European giant that fell in spectacular fashion and for years, appeared incapable of getting back up. Countless management changes took place, seven different coaches presided over the first team since 2006 and players were constantly bought and sold. There was no cohesion, no winning mentality and no Stile Juve – the philosophy of simplicity, professionalism and calm instilled by Edoardo Agnelli during his stint as president in the late 1920s.

In the air tonight: Juventus defender Giorgio Chiellini celebrates
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Seventh place for two consecutive campaigns had fans attempting to set fire to a section of the old Stadio Olimpico last season but this had to be their season. This was Alessandro Del Piero’s last year, the year the Juventus Stadium opened its doors and the year Antonio Conte returned home.

Playing an exciting brand of attacking football that focused on possession, accurate passing and in Conte’s own words, "head, heart and legs", the Old Lady dazzled her way back to the helm of Serie A.

“I would have liked to have played in this squad,” said a smiling Gianluca Vialli. “There’s great rhythm, great intensity. So many playable balls!” The fact that Juventus have so far remained undefeated with only one game left is a testament to their capability in overcoming their opponents and much of that is down to their team unity and collective spirit.

Fan-tastic: Juventus supporters celebrate winning Serie A
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They have no fuoriclasse, as they say in Italian - an unrivalled player, champion at the top of his game who will score them an endless amount of goals a la Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Instead Juventus have had 18 different goal-scorers this season – the team is their fuoriclasse.

The most beautiful aspect of their game is their work off the ball. They can play through the middle, out wide, horizontally or on the counter. They have a Plan A, a Plan B and a Plan C. On average they have taken more shots on goal per game than any other squad in Europe’s top five leagues. This is a side that loves to attack and do so at will, secure in the knowledge that they boast Europe’s stingiest defence. Their only weakness lies in the absence of a natural goalscorer capable of finishing the many chances created, hence their many draws - 15 in total, seven more than second-placed Milan.

However, rarely have we seen a side so deserving of the title. Beautiful football combined with a burning desire to return to greatness. This is a special team with a special story, worthy of this very special title – their 30th though officially only their 28th as they had two league championships stripped because of the Calciopoli scandal.

Within this sporting fairytale stories lies countless personal ones. Like that of Emanuele Giaccherini who only four years ago was driving his Fiesta to Cesena FC, a Lega Pro (third division) side at the time. The attacking midfielder knew this was his last chance before accepting his fate as a labourer. Giaccherini, once an undersized boy who suffered a ruptured spleen and whose mother complained of him ‘breaking everything in his body’, overcame all obstacles to help Juve win the title, four years after he nearly gave up on his dream.

Masked ball: Leonardo Bonucci (right) celebrates with Marco Borriello
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Then there’s the story of Leonardo Bonucci. A lifelong Juventus fan whose miserable performances last season and at the start of this one had fans campaigning to get rid of him. Luckily, he had Conte in his corner and in these last few months has been a revelation, rescuing Juve countless times.

But in the eyes of former Bianconero player Moreno Torricelli, it’s Paolo De Ceglie who truly symbolises the new and improved Juventus - a player who has always been good but lacked the personality to make the final jump to become truly great. Now Torricelli says: “I see a player that’s tough, very strong and fearless.”

Full credit must go to Conte, who built a championship-winning side and laid the foundations of a winning cycle. One should expect nothing less from a man who was captain of the great Marcello Lippi-led Juventus side and part of the Italian national team that reached the World Cup final in 1994 under the God of tactics, Arrigo Sacchi.

On the way to glory: Mirko Vucinic scores past Cagliari goalkeeper Michael Agazzi
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A consistent winner, his obsession with tactics has seen him deploy five different formations this season and has been successful with all his tested formulas. Modern in his approach, he meticulously studies his opponents and adapts his team so as to expose the weaknesses of his adversaries while simultaneously exploiting the strengths of his own players.

Aside from tactics, as La Repubblica’s Emanuele Gamba noted, Conte has also studied communication, psychology and physiology so as to transmit his ideals perfectly, prepare effective training schedules, limit injuries and keep the side motivated and focused for the entirety of the season. He has brought back the Juve arrogance, their willingness to fight, to sneer and to challenge. They’re back to being hated and that’s how they like it.

Luck has also played a part. Juventus were free from all European commitments to challenge for the title against the likes of Milan, who suffered deeply from injuries, Inter who are in a transitional phase and a Napoli side committed to success in Europe.

Nonetheless, few will deny them their deserved moment and Italy awaits to see whether they can really write history by remaining undefeated and securing their 10th Coppa Italia victory. Who said Italian football isn’t exciting?


http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/football-opinion/juventus-serie-a-title-is-a-triumph-for-underdogs-823599

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Unbeaten Juventus scale the barriers to be crowned champions again

There was pandemonium in Trieste and amid the chaos Juve's manager Antonio Conte savoured a title he had masterminded
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They began to scale the barriers around the pitch long before the final whistle blew. Six long years these fans had waited to see Juventus return to the pinnacle of Italian football, yet as time ticked down at Trieste's Stadio Nereo Rocco the thought of having to delay festivities for even one more second was becoming too much. After all the false dawns, the setbacks, the controversies and the collapses since Calciopoli they just wanted it to be over. They wanted to celebrate a Scudetto once more.

Confirmation that this title was theirs had arrived roughly three minutes before full time, as word filtered through that Maicon had given Internazionale a 4-2 lead in the Milan derby. Few will have fully comprehended the drama unfolding at San Siro, where the Brazilian's jaw-dropping strike from outside the box provided a fitting conclusion to Serie A's barmiest and most entertaining fixture of the season. None will have cared. All that mattered was that victories for both Inter and Juve – 2-0 up against Cagliari – now seemed assured. Those results would make the Bianconeri champions.

The final whistle unleashed pandemonium in Trieste. Although this was technically an away game for Juventus, they were playing at a venue which is far closer to Turin than to Cagliari's true home in Sardinia – the Isolani having temporarily relocated after their owner Massimo Cellino lost patience with the shabby state of the communally owned Stadio Sant'Elia. In a crowd of roughly 16,000 on Sunday night, Juventus's fans outnumbered those of their nominal hosts by a ratio of 15 to one.

Those supporters pouring on to the pitch quickly outnumbered Juventus's players by many times that figure. Giorgio Chiellini was mobbed, the player's face a mixture of delirium and faint concern as they launched him, shirtless, time and again into the night sky. In among the madness, a group of fans made off with a camera belonging to Italy's Sky Sport. Others simply stood on the field and held their banners aloft. One bore a picture of the captain, Alessandro Del Piero, along with the simple message: "Thank you for existing".

Juventus's players eventually retreated to their dressing room. It was some time before stewards were able to clear out the tunnel of fans and create enough space on the pitch for them to re-emerge and toast their triumph properly – with bottles of champagne bearing the number 30. This will be officially recorded as Juventus's 28th title, but the club continues to reject the Calciopoli verdicts which stripped them of their 2005 and 2006 Scudetti.

That much was affirmed – lest the bottles had not been clear enough – by the club's sporting director, Beppe Marotta, at full time, when he said that the club did indeed intend to add a third golden star to the badge on their shirts. The manager, Antonio Conte, had sought to sidestep the issue when he was pressed by reporters at full time, saying: "What number Scudetto is this? Number one, because it's the first I've won as a manager."

If debates over Juventus's third star are certain to rage on for months and years then Conte would prefer it if they could at least be put on hold for a few days, so this success can be celebrated in its own right. Not only have his team claimed their first piece of major silverware since Calciopoli, but they also stand one game away from an unbeaten season. Only two teams have previously achieved such a feat in Serie A – Perugia, who still didn't win the league, in 1978-79 and Milan in 1991-92. Neither was in a 38-game season.

Juventus's performance in their first campaign under Conte has gone far beyond what anyone could have imagined for a team who had finished seventh in each of their last two seasons. With one game still to play, they have already collected 23 points more than they managed in total last season. They have also reached the final of the Coppa Italia, where they will face Napoli in two weeks' time.

There is plenty of credit to go around. The signing of Andrea Pirlo on a free transfer following his release by Milan will go down as one of the most brilliant pieces of business ever conducted by the club – and one of the Rossoneri's most boneheaded. If the true picture is a little more nuanced, the player not having produced consistent performances of this calibre for some time before his departure from Milan, then his importance to Juventus is undeniable. His 13 assists lead the division.

Pirlo was not the only astute signing made by Juventus last summer, though, his fellow midfielder Arturo Vidal arriving from Bayer Leverkusen for €10.5m and going on to become the team's key ball-winner, winning more tackles per game (5.4) than anyone else in the division. Mirko Vucinic, signed for €15m from Roma, drove fans to distraction with his selfishness in possession and tendency to disappear from games, yet also scored a string of crucial goals. His was the strike which set Juventus on the way to victory after just six minutes on Sunday.

More than any player, many feel that the key upgrade made last summer might just have been the opening of Juventus Stadium. Pirlo, upon playing in the venue for the first time, expressed the belief that it would be even more intimidating for opposing teams than a packed San Siro – on account of the close "English-style" stands which placed supporters right on top of the pitch. Juventus have collected six more points at home this season than Milan.

But the true star of the show has undoubtedly been Conte himself. The manager arrived with only a modest CV – he had taken each of Bari and Siena up from Serie B, with an unsuccessful spell at Atalanta inbetween – but the full backing of supporters who believed that as a former captain he would appreciate the significance of the role. He arrived declaring this team "must get used to using the word Scudetto again", then promptly refused to acknowledge reporters' suggestions that his team even had a shot at the title until the final two months of the season.

Conte was similarly swift in dropping his commitment to the 4-2-4 which had served him so well thus far in his managerial career. He had expressed reservations to the board about the signing of Pirlo specifically because the player did not fit the holding midfielder mould required for such a formation, but rather than force square pegs into round holes, he subsequently adjusted his approach. By developing different variations on 4-3-3 and then later 3-5-2 he was able to not only get the best out of his squad but give himself different options to combat varied opponents.

While the whole squad embraced his ideals of possession football and a relentless high pressing game – with the exception of one or two high-profile players who subsequently found themselves marginalised – his greatest achievements were in the defensive phase. Stephan Lichtsteiner was the only significant addition made to a backline that conceded 47 goals last year, yet this season under Conte Juventus have allowed only 19 – 13 fewer than anyone else in the division. The clean sheet against Cagliari was their 21st of the season – a club record.

That was a tribute to the renewed form of Gigi Buffon but also the manager, whose faith in Leonardo Bonucci and Andrea Barzagli at centre-back was such that he was prepared to even ask Chiellini to play out on the left. Each responded with one of the best seasons of their careers, Bonucci proving himself adept not only as a defender but also a distributor of the ball who could help launch his team onto another offensive.

Throughout the campaign, the one knock on this Juventus team was the claim that they did not possess a match-winner such as Zlatan Ibrahimovic who could beat teams on his own even when the rest were performing poorly. Time and again the Swede has dug Milan out of a hole, scoring more league goals (28) than he has ever before in a single season. And yet this is the first season in which Ibrahimovic has failed to finish top of his domestic league since 2003.

In the final analysis, Juventus did not need a fuoriclasse like Ibra in their starting XI. They already had one picking the team.

Talking points

• So, that derby. Six goals; three penalties – one the result of an absolutely scandalous decision; Júlio César squaring up to Zlatan Ibrahimovic after the award of said penalty and telling him that he was going to miss, before sticking his tongue out and making all manner of bizarre facial expressions; Ibrahimovic then sticking a perfectly struck penalty past César; a 40-yard volley from Wesley Sneijder that had to be pushed out from under the bar; that goal from Maicon … oh, and yet more stunning choreography at San Siro: from Milan's supporters poking fun – "Seeing you in May is to see another mirage" – to Inter's incredible depiction of the Madonnina that covered an entire stand. The quality may have been mixed – some of the defending, on both sides, was atrocious – but the entertainment was exceptional. All this with a title on the line. What more could you want from a derby?

• This was, incidentally, Massimiliano Allegri's fifth derby in charge of Milan – and in every one he has faced a different Inter manager. The chances of Andrea Stramaccioni hanging around long enough for the next one appear to be increasing rapidly, with the owner Massimo Moratti telling reporters: "I think he can continue [in the job]". It feels deserved – the team having collected 17 points in eight matches since he arrived, when they had just 41 from 29 before he arrived. The players, also, appear to be on board. "We hope we can continue with him," said Diego Milito – whose hat-trick took his personal tally to eight goals in as many Milan derbies. "We are working well."

• If an expectation has too often existed in Serie A that teams with nothing left to play for not only could but should roll over in their remaining games, then there have certainly been plenty prepared to buck the trend this season. After Parma dealt Inter's Champions League hopes a blow in the previous round of fixtures, this weekend it was Bologna who knocked Napoli off course with a 2-0 win. Udinese – aided by two red cards dealt to their opponents Genoa – were able to stay on course, moving three points clear of both Napoli and Inter and staying two ahead of Lazio, who won at Atalanta. All four teams can still claim fourth with the right combination of results, but Udinese are the clear favourites –needing just a draw in their final game away to Catania to secure third. It would be hard to overstate the achievement of manager Francesco Guidolin should they succeed.

• The one dampener for Udinese was the suggestion from their captain and leading scorer Antonio Di Natale that this may be his last season. "I'm going to play in the European Championships and then stop," was his brief, unqualified comment to reporters at full-time – and while further clarification is required, it is not unthinkable that he could be considering stepping away from the game at 34. A long-term knee condition has long obliged him to undergo almost constant physio between games, and he expressed concern following the on-pitch death of Livorno's Piermario Morosini – a close friend of his – about how many games footballers were now being made to play.

• Not a bad weekend for goals, this one. Beyond Maicon's strike, highlights included Lorik Cana's violent top-corner finish for Lazio, and Sebastian Giovinco's looping 25-yard volley against Siena.

• At the bottom of the table, Lecce's hopes of survival took another blow with a 1-0 defeat at home to Fiorentina, though Genoa's loss the next day means they are still technically able to escape relegation should they win, and the Grifone lose, next week. Encouraging, given the recent climate in Serie A, were the warm send-offs that fans of both Lecce and the already relegated fans gave to their teams, with applause and chants of support at full-time.

• And finally … Only in a week like this could a match like Palermo 4-4 Chievo wind up as an afterthought.

Results: Atalanta 0-2 Lazio, Bologna 2-0 Napoli, Cagliari 0 - 2 Juventus, Inter 4-2 Milan, Lecce 0-1 Fiorentina, Novara 3-0 Cesena, Palermo 4-4 Chievo, Roma 2-2 Catania, Siena 0-2 Parma,

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Re: Serie A 2011/2012 Thread
« Reply #283 on: May 10, 2012, 05:57:54 AM »
'The official verdict of 28 titles is farcical' - Do Juventus have the right to add a third gold star to their shirt?






Italy's big talking point is set to come to a head in the coming days as the Old Lady reveal whether they will follow through on their plan to add an extra star to their shirts

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It was an entirely deserved party in Turin as Juventus celebrated the Scudetto at the weekend in much the same way they had in 2006. This week, though, there were dissatisfied noises coming from some interested observers, with Arrigo Sacchi and Massimo Moratti among the dissenting voices.

The problem related to the number emblazoned on the tricolore fixed to the bottles of champagne used to toast the Bianconeri's magnificent season. The number was 30, rather than 28. And now, with talk from director general Giuseppe Marotta and president Andrea Agnelli of a third star being sewn into the Juve shirt to commemorate their 30th title, it seems that clear signs are being sent from Vinovo. They still consider the two titles they had revoked to be rightfully theirs.
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But should they? While the FIGC chief prosecutor Stefano Palazzi stated last year that Inter were among a number of clubs who were guilty of sporting fraud on much greater levels than Juve were, the Statute of Limitations in Italy means that the designations of the 2004-05 and 2005-06 Scudetti remain as dictated by the 2006 Calciopoli trial. Therefore, while there is massive evidence that the Bianconeri's titles should not have been stripped - at least not in the favour of Inter as happened with the second Scudetto - there is nothing that can be done about the situation legally.

It all leaves a huge black hole in the Serie A roll of honour. For 2005, there remains a void, while for 2006, one of the apparent guilty parties is identified as the league champions. But Juve continue to regard them both as their triumphs, having won both on the pitch and having been deemed relative innocents, albeit five years after they were originally fingered for the crime.

Gianluigi Buffon left the whole debate unanswered earlier this week, as he expressed his opinion on the matter while giving a nod to official figures. "I have won five titles and Juve 30," said the Italy captain. "But I have been assigned three and Juve 28. But everyone makes their own calculations." Meanwhile, his coach Antonio Conte sidestepped the questions about the correct tally by simply saying: "For me it is Scudetto number one as coach."

   I would even be willing for Inter to give up the 2006 title and have it left unallocated if it stopped Juve dwelling on the past

- Don Nerazzurri, NerazzurriWorld.com

But if the behaviour of Buffon, Pavel Nedved, Mauro Camoranesi or Alessandro Del Piero is understandable, what are the real opinions of the likes of Leonardo Bonucci (who was with Inter in 2006) or Marotta (then director general of Sampdoria)? Outwardly, they have joined the fight for the retention of the two stripped crowns. Rather than making a political statement based on their opinions of the time, are they just trying to curry favour with Juventini?

It is also not as easy as just unofficially allowing the Bianconeri to recognise the titles as their own, since one of them was awarded to Inter, and Nerazzurri fans feel it is time Juve were reminded they were in the wrong.

"Now the Old Lady has won the 2011-12 Scudetto it seems that she is suffering from senile dementia, as both the club and the fans seem to have forgotten that they've had two titles revoked!" says Don Nerazzurri, of NerazzurriWorld.com. "According to all the records now they have won 28 - not 30, and therefore have no legitimate claim to add the third star."

But Don Nerazzurri believes that there may well be one gesture which could be made that would see Juve finally back down on their claims to the two titles in question.

"As a fan of Inter, the club that was awarded their revoked 2006 title, I am so against their ridiculous claims of holding 30 Scudetti that I would even be willing for Inter to give up the 2006 title and have it left unallocated like the 2005 one if it stopped Juventus dwelling on the past and they just enjoyed the latest title as their 28th.

"Obviously I'd prefer for that not to have to happen, and they could never be forgiven for the things they've said and done. But now it's time for them to just accept they were in the wrong and look to the future."

But what about Juve fans? Why do they believe they have the right to add a third star on their replica shirts next season? JuventiKnows writer John Cascarano believes that the conspiracy against the Old Lady should be recognised, and the extra star should be allowed, especially given that the use of stars is not regulated by the FIGC.

   If Juve want to add another star to their own insignia, they will. If they wanted to add a silhouette of Luciano Moggi smoking a cigar, they could do that as well

- John Cascarano, JuventiKnows

"That alone should make the entire debate moot. If Juve want to add another star to their own insignia, they will. If they wanted to replace the silhouette of the bull on the center of the patch with a silhouette of Luciano Moggi’s face smoking a cigar, they could do that as well," says Cascarano.

"During the first, rushed Calciopoli trial in 2006, transcripts were selectively entered into evidence in what can arguably be construed as a deliberate attempt to skew perception against Juventus. The Bianconeri, as it turns out, were never guilty of Article 6 match-fixing violations but, at worst, Article 1 – the creation of an appearance of impropriety – a standard so low that any defence attorney would cringe at the mere thought. And that isn’t even getting into any of the evidence regarding other teams’ involvement.

"The bottom line is that the entire reason that they’re 'officially' recognised as having only won 28 titles is farcical to begin with. A few strands of golden thread is a very small fee to pay the team who alone paid for everyone else’s sins. It’s frankly insulting for the FIGC to try to stop this."


And so, it is clear that the argument will go on over the validity of a third star, regardless of whether one is added to the Juventus badge next seaon. Is it time for the FIGC to admit they can do nothing to stop a star being added, especially in light of prosecutor Palazzi's verdict last year? Or should the Bianconeri face the fact they were one of several clubs in the wrong and as such do not have a right to claim either of the two revoked titles?

The debate continues.
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« Reply #284 on: May 10, 2012, 06:59:50 AM »
Juve will be in pot three
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Juventus are back in the Champions League, but their return to the competition next season is likely to be tough.

As it stands, the Old Lady would be inserted into the third pot of seeds – thus potentially seeing them placed into a ‘group of death’.

The Bianconeri are currently 15th in UEFA’s club rankings, for next season's European Cup qualifiers, which is the system that Europe’s governing body use to decide seedings ahead of the Champions League draw.

Reports are already suggesting that a worst case scenario for Juve could see them placed in a section with Barcelona, Manchester City and Borussia Dortmund.

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« Reply #285 on: June 12, 2012, 04:56:55 PM »
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Forza Serie A 2012/13 !!!!
« Reply #286 on: August 25, 2012, 04:52:10 AM »
Aaaand we're back!

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Fiorentina v Udinese - salivating clash. Fiorentina brought in Montella who to me is a very exciting coach and likes to play some really attractive football as he was doing with Catania last season. Add to that they had a very good mercato imho and brought in some really good players AND unfortunately for me they kept Jovetic...watch out for them. Udinese will be Udinese despite having sold some of their good players. I expect them to be competitive still with Guidolin coaching and they have made some signings. Their scouting is one of if not the best in italy they always find gems so im looking forward to see them..

Juve v Parma - hope we can start this this season as we did last. Looking for us to take Serie A this year...it wont be easy even though some sides are perceived to have been weakened. football is on the field and not on paper. looking forward to seeing Pogba...this kid would be huge in the future almost everyone has been impressed by him in that 'Pirlo' role..still has some rough edges to smoothen but that is to be expected..really looking forward to him...
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« Reply #287 on: August 25, 2012, 07:01:46 AM »
Looking for mih Juve to take it again. Not expecting much in Europe though, we add depth but not class. Never a fan of adding 5 decent players when u can add 2 top class signings. Sourness here though my cable company aint get Bein yet, have to live with streams for now.
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« Reply #288 on: October 20, 2012, 10:04:46 AM »
It seems like Serie A rell extra borin this year boi.

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« Reply #289 on: October 20, 2012, 12:43:15 PM »
It seems like Serie A rell extra borin this year boi.

so borin it made u dig up this thread?

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« Reply #290 on: October 21, 2012, 10:18:27 AM »
It seems like Serie A rell extra borin this year boi.

so borin it made u dig up this thread?

Yup, had tuh dust it orf too. In my opinion this season Serie A fall behind La Liga, Bundesliga, EPL as far as exciting football. It is a technically better league compared to the some of the players in the EPl but that league seems like it regressing.

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« Reply #291 on: October 21, 2012, 10:34:48 AM »
It seems like Serie A rell extra borin this year boi.

so borin it made u dig up this thread?

Yup, had tuh dust it orf too. In my opinion this season Serie A fall behind La Liga, Bundesliga, EPL as far as exciting football. It is a technically better league compared to the some of the players in the EPl but that league seems like it regressing.

i hardly think an epl junkie would spend enough time to actually watch serie a games or take an interest in the league but rather stick to the "italian football is boring and defensive"  stereotype....actually compared to serie match lineups every weekend i find epl and even bundesliga to be quite sedate...

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« Reply #292 on: October 21, 2012, 11:33:31 AM »
It seems like Serie A rell extra borin this year boi.

so borin it made u dig up this thread?

Yup, had tuh dust it orf too. In my opinion this season Serie A fall behind La Liga, Bundesliga, EPL as far as exciting football. It is a technically better league compared to the some of the players in the EPl but that league seems like it regressing.

i hardly think an epl junkie would spend enough time to actually watch serie a games or take an interest in the league but rather stick to the "italian football is boring and defensive"  stereotype....actually compared to serie match lineups every weekend i find epl and even bundesliga to be quite sedate...
It seems like Serie A rell extra borin this year boi.

so borin it made u dig up this thread?

Yup, had tuh dust it orf too. In my opinion this season Serie A fall behind La Liga, Bundesliga, EPL as far as exciting football. It is a technically better league compared to the some of the players in the EPl but that league seems like it regressing.

i hardly think an epl junkie would spend enough time to actually watch serie a games or take an interest in the league but rather stick to the "italian football is boring and defensive"  stereotype....actually compared to serie match lineups every weekend i find epl and even bundesliga to be quite sedate...


Not sure why you appear to be taking my opinion regarding Serie A so personal but  I expect nothing less from a Serie A junkie. You are entitled to od on Serie A as you have been doing. I have actually enjoyed Serie A previous years, but like I said in my opinion I feel as a league it has regressed. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings or critisize your drug of choice.

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« Reply #293 on: October 21, 2012, 03:57:44 PM »
feelings? u read all that and incorporate a tone by my choice of words? u probably a milan fan..

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« Reply #294 on: October 21, 2012, 04:20:05 PM »
feelings? u read all that and incorporate a tone by my choice of words? u probably a milan fan..

Nah, Juve-I like Pirlo and Buffon ;)  ;D Napoli and Edison Cavani.

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« Reply #295 on: October 21, 2012, 07:46:24 PM »
thanks for pogba by the way..

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« Reply #296 on: November 25, 2012, 02:39:24 PM »
Milan leading Juve at the half, match on Bein. Good match, so far, Milan keeping Buffon busy. Robinho exchange jerseys with Pirlo walking off the pitch already oui.

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« Reply #297 on: November 25, 2012, 04:46:15 PM »
Milan leading Juve at the half, match on Bein. Good match, so far, Milan keeping Buffon busy. Robinho exchange jerseys with Pirlo walking off the pitch already oui.

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« Reply #298 on: January 06, 2013, 11:02:40 AM »
Juve lost to 10 men Sampdoria. When I see the goals Buffon give up, I couldn't beleive it was he who was in goal. He look like a backup on those goals.

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« Reply #299 on: January 07, 2013, 11:13:17 AM »
nice anti-racist gesture by ACM.

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