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« Reply #90 on: September 25, 2007, 04:03:41 AM »
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When d arbitrator rules 4 d players can d TTFF cry bankruptcy?

Yes, if they do not have the funds to honour any awards made to the players. However, this will almost definately lead to further enquiries and possible court actions. TTFF will still have to produce their accounts to show the money that came in and how it was spent.

I understand that the players would much rather have the case heard in London, as their lawyer has had many dealings with this arbitration service and considers it to be very robust.

It will be interesting to see the reaction of English managers towards national availability. If a full strength squad is selected, then it will be difficult to refuse. However, if there are obvious omissions, managers may have a case to argue that the squad is not a full strength selection and therefore withhold their players.

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« Reply #91 on: September 25, 2007, 04:35:09 AM »
London Times  24th September

Please mind the gap

There is a £15 million discrepancy between what the Trinidad & Tobago Football Federation says it earned from the 2006 World Cup, and the sum calculated by a team of lawyers representing its short-changed players. Jack Warner, who runs football on the islands as well as acting as Fifa vice-president, has offered the team a paltry £498 each and banned those individuals who protested from representing the country. Fifa, the game’s world governing body, will not refer the matter to its ethics committee, claiming it is a domestic issue. This is why Sepp Blatter’s organisation has no credibility whatsoever.


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« Reply #92 on: September 25, 2007, 06:05:20 AM »
this arms Length position that Jackula falls back on when ever there is a problem with the TTFF is a bit worrisome, as I am Positive that Jackula WILL claim that the TTFF is the one in control of the money.
it is really amazing that he can be in this position and yet claim innocence.
The contempt with which he has treated some players over the years is mind boggling as these same players are his livelihood.
I have been praying for many years to see the day that he is no longer in charge of TTFF.
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« Reply #93 on: September 25, 2007, 12:50:43 PM »
Ok so when they declare bankruptcy what next?
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« Reply #94 on: September 25, 2007, 12:53:49 PM »
Ok so when they declare bankruptcy what next?

That not happening.

Most I cud see is that they cut some programs.

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« Reply #95 on: September 25, 2007, 01:22:44 PM »
Ok so when they declare bankruptcy what next?
You think a declaration of bankruptcy is as simple as calling a press conference and making an announcement?  Bankruptcy is a legal matter and the TTFF wouldn't dare posit such a bold-face lie, not when their books (which will be made public) would show otherwise.  If for no other reason, the prospects of opening the financial cupboard to public scrutiny should itself prove deterrent for them.

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« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2007, 01:48:07 PM »
Ok so when they declare bankruptcy what next?
You think a declaration of bankruptcy is as simple as calling a press conference and making an announcement?  Bankruptcy is a legal matter and the TTFF wouldn't dare posit such a bold-face lie, not when their books (which will be made public) would show otherwise.  If for no other reason, the prospects of opening the financial cupboard to public scrutiny should itself prove deterrent for them.

I tort bankruptcy is exactly how we end up with TTFF as opposed to TTFA

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« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2007, 03:13:37 PM »
Ok so when they declare bankruptcy what next?
You think a declaration of bankruptcy is as simple as calling a press conference and making an announcement?  Bankruptcy is a legal matter and the TTFF wouldn't dare posit such a bold-face lie, not when their books (which will be made public) would show otherwise.  If for no other reason, the prospects of opening the financial cupboard to public scrutiny should itself prove deterrent for them.

I tort bankruptcy is exactly how we end up with TTFF as opposed to TTFA

I couldn't tell you why they changed the name.  They could have changed the name (as many shady businesses do) because of debt...debt owed would be by the legal entity TTFA...if that entity becomes solvent (just goes away) then creditors are left in the lurch.  They don't even need to file bankruptcy.  Bankruptcy is a legal procedure that must be approved by a court, since it's people's money you're talking about.

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T&T’s World Cup Players Back In The Fold
« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2007, 04:36:42 PM »
T&T’s World Cup Players Back In The Fold
By: Ian Plenderleith, ussoccerplayers.com


Sep 25, 2007

CONCACAF President Jack Warner’s strange relation with the truth has been put to the test again this past week. Acting as "special advisor" to the Trinidad & Tobago Football Federation, he had offered the players from last year’s World Cup squad a bonus payment of around $1000 each, saying this was the only money left, after expenses, from the three million US dollars the Federation had apparently made from the competition.

The players, who had formed the Football Players Association of Trinidad And Tobago to negotiate the original deal (made prior to the World Cup, and which provided for the players receiving a 50% per cent share of the profits), were somewhat suspicious at the low figure, and so they disputed it. They were promptly banned from the T&T National Team. The team that took part in this year’s Gold Cup was effectively the country’s reserve XI.

Inconveniently for Warner, his country’s government has now revealed that the Federation in fact made $28 million from the World Cup, and had somehow understated its earnings by $25 million. The T&T Fed hasn’t commented on this figure, as such, but it was mighty quick to shift its stance. It immediately lifted the 11-month ban on its 16 players, and agreed to go to arbitration in London (where the players’ law firm is based), rather than dispute the matter in court.

Blimey, Jack. If the government’s figure is correct (and why would they make it up?), then the Fed somehow forgot about $25 million in their own accounts. Clearly this was an administrative oversight, and in no way an attempt to bilk the players out of the money they’d been promised under the deal.

An estimated settlement date is March 2008. In the meantime, both sides have agreed not to comment on the matter, and seem optimistic that a reasonable compromise can be reached. While that is desirable, it will be more interesting to see how the Federation eventually explains away the gaping discrepancy between their figure and the government’s.

Only a cynic would suggest that this issue will be forgotten or brushed over as part of the final deal, and that Mr. Warner will continue unchallenged in his supreme role as CONCACAF President and FIFA Vice President.

BLATTERED TO RECEIVE

Meanwhile, just to show once again that you can’t top reality with satire, FIFA President Sepp Blatter has been honored on a Bosnian postage stamp by the Sarajevo-based International League of Humanists. According to the FIFA website, Blatter had already received the title Humanist of the Year 2001 and the Golden Charter of Peace and Humanism from the ILH, and received this latest honor because he has "created bridges between communities, countries and continents."

How lovely. The stamp shows the benevolent leader smiling next to a soccer ball, while in the background is a blurred player, presumably symbolizing FIFA’s finances and its laissez-faire stance on the T&T issue -- it refused to refer the matter to its own ethics committee, declaring it a "domestic matter."

Apparently the Trinidad & Tobago government once issued its own commemorative Jack Warner stamp, but they had to be recalled. Postal customers complained that the stamps just wouldn’t stick.

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« Reply #99 on: September 26, 2007, 05:29:18 AM »
Apparently the Trinidad & Tobago government once issued its own commemorative Jack Warner stamp, but they had to be recalled. Postal customers complained that the stamps just wouldn’t stick.
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« Reply #100 on: September 26, 2007, 04:35:26 PM »
MEDIA RELEASE


YORKE SIGNS UP WITH FPATT
Pledges His Full Support

Dwight Yorke, Trinidad and Tobago’s 2006 World Cup captain has joined the growing numbers of players becoming members of the Football Players Association of Trinidad & Tobago (FPATT).

This was revealed by FPATT’s General Secretary Alison Ayres, who recently returned to Trinidad from a trip to the UK on official FPATT business. Ayres stated that during his UK visit, he witnessed Sunderland’s season opener against Tottenham and met with Yorke the following day.

Ayres further stated that Yorke had no hesitation in signing up with FPATT and pledged his full support for the young fledging organization.

 While in the UK, Ayres also met with representatives from both the Professional Footballers Association (PFA) as well as FIFPro, the international body representing professional footballers and professional footballers association. Trinidad and Tobago is now the 43rd country to establish a players association.

FPATT recently played an instrumental role in Kenwyne Jones’ transfer from Championship Division team Southampton to Sunderland of the English Premiership.

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« Reply #101 on: September 27, 2007, 04:13:18 PM »
We all know banckruptcy is a legal procedure dat eh go stop them from declaring banckruptcy. We all know they banckrupt of ideas and d money in JW a/c so it eh sooooooooo far fetch
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