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Let Warriors play.
« on: September 21, 2007, 07:49:51 AM »
World Cup dispute goes to court.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
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Let Warriors play.

The 2006 World Cup bonus dispute heads to the Port of Sport courts today as legal representatives of 16 World Cup players and the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) meet for the first time from 11.30 am before Justice Gregory Smith in a preliminary hearing.
The hearing is the first official step towards deciding a case that looks to be worth in excess of $86 million to the players-half of the $173 million that, according to the Ministry of Sport and Youth Affairs, the T&TFF received in its successful World Cup campaign. The T&TFF claimed, last October, to have pocketed just over $18 million.
The T&TFF, who are represented by Om Lalla, want the financial disagreement to be settled by arbitration while the players, who are instructed by British attorney Michael Townley and will be led in court by Elton Prescott SC, want the matter to remain in the civil court.
The stand off between players and administrators has already run for 11 months, during which time the disgruntled "Soca Warriors" have been debarred from representing their country.
Townley, who claimed to be consistently ignored by the Federation, yesterday stressed that the T&TFF had a social responsibility as custodians of the national game and urged them to reconsider their blacklist.
"I find it quite extraordinary that the TTFF have been prepared to blacklist their best players," said the 45-year-old attorney. "These players must represent (Trinidad and Tobago's) 'golden generation' because they qualified for the World Cup. Whatever else is going on between the players and the TTFF, what madness it is to ban the best players you have.
"In England, they surely would not let a commercial dispute rob the country of its best players."
If the case goes to trial, Townley suggested it might not reach a conclusion until after the start of the 2010 World Cup qualifying rounds and he voiced concern at the damage being done to sport as a result of the dispute.
"Goodwill and political gestures and so on don't speak to kids in the same way as sport speaks to kids," said the attorney, who is also an active long distance runner with the Brighton Phoenix club. "But if sport becomes a political and legal battle ground, it loses its purity and it loses its ability to say to kids that this is something to aspire to.
"Right now this dispute must seem to say to kids that you can get involved in sport but it is just as tricky as if you get involved in (any other) business It says that you might become a Soca Warrior and achieve the highest aim but, six months later, you might be cast out."
There might be a sting in the tail from the players, though, as Townley revealed that he would discuss with his clients the possibility of legal action for loss of earnings as a result of the blacklist.
On Wednesday, the Football Players Association of Trinidad and Tobago (FPATT) sought to distance themselves from the court action by declaring themselves as interested spectators who wished only for an amicable solution between both parties. Still, FPATT interim president Shaka Hislop is among 16 players named in the suit.
The remaining players are Kelvin Jack, Ian Cox, Avery John, Cyd Gray, Marvin Andrews, Atiba Charles, Brent Sancho, Chris Birchall, Aurtis Whitley, Collin Samuel, Evans Wise, Anthony Wolfe, Cornell Glen, Stern John and Kenwyne Jones.
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Re: Let Warriors play.
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 08:48:36 AM »
The blacklisted players may never play for T&T again, why, even if they take off the blacklist I am sure Jack Warner will make sure they still dont get pick. He might tell Wim to say they just isn't good enough....

Jack too smart. Them fellas have to come good and cover they ass.....

On Wednesday, the Football Players Association of Trinidad and Tobago (FPATT) sought to distance themselves from the court action by declaring themselves as interested spectators who wished only for an amicable solution between both parties. Still, FPATT interim president Shaka Hislop is among 16 players named in the suit.

All of a sudden FPATT just observing now and they manager is part of the players suing.... uummmm
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 08:54:19 AM »
To be fair to FPATT they have said from day zero is d Jacklisted players that have taken d action because as pros dey cyah b in FPATT. So what yuh want dem to say that is dem when is not dem
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Re: Let Warriors play.
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 09:05:28 AM »
To be fair to FPATT they have said from day zero is d Jacklisted players that have taken d action because as pros dey cyah b in FPATT. So what yuh want dem to say that is dem when is not dem
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 10:00:33 AM »
The blacklisted players may never play for T&T again, why, even if they take off the blacklist I am sure Jack Warner will make sure they still dont get pick. He might tell Wim to say they just isn't good enough....

Jack too smart. Them fellas have to come good and cover they ass.....

On Wednesday, the Football Players Association of Trinidad and Tobago (FPATT) sought to distance themselves from the court action by declaring themselves as interested spectators who wished only for an amicable solution between both parties. Still, FPATT interim president Shaka Hislop is among 16 players named in the suit.

All of a sudden FPATT just observing now and they manager is part of the players suing.... uummmm

like men doh understand how SOME people in one organization could also be part of ANOTHER group of people who doing something else.  How in the world a San Juan Sr Comp player could be playin for Jabloteh?  We should relegate jabloteh if San Juan Sr Comp lose all dey match?

I real likin Liburd more nad more...Ah wonder if he could take pictures and be the press officer for the revolutionary TTFA

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 01:09:30 PM »
I would like to confirm that FPATT (Football Players Association of Trinidad & Tobago) is not involved as an organisation in the current dispute between 16 national team members and the Trinidad & Tobago Football Federation.
Obviously, it may be confusing to some people as some of FPATTs founder members are amongst the players bringing the case. However, many FPATT members are not involved with the case.
 
FPATT has been formed, partly to ensure that a similar dipute doesn't occur again, and if it ever did, individuals or small groups of players would not be bullied or penalised without legitimate reason, as those players currently blacklisted  have been.
 
However, FPATT does have an interest as a spectator, as the future of football in T&T will be redefined after this issue is resolved. It is our hope that through collective bargaining, future contracts will be clearer and more readily enforceable by all parties.
 
FPATT has no desire to see the disbandment of TTFF. However, if there has been wrongdoing then those that are guilty should be exposed. If this leads to an overhaul of the current administration, FPATT would be there to assist those remaining, if required, with the assistance of FIFA, in reconstructing a more transparent and democratic administration. 
 
National football administration is not part of FPATTs remit, however, FPATT recognises that a close, and respectful working relationship between employers and employees is essential in business and the same can be said for the smooth running of football.
 
FPATT has attempted to work with the current administration and will continue to do so. A competent administration working with a players association is the template put forward by FIFA to develop strong professional leagues in Africa, and the same is the case in Trinidad & Tobago.
 
FPATT is standing by to meet with the current administraton to work on the 2010 world cup campaign contract negotiations,which, given the current situation, are absolutely essential to ensure confidence amongst players, supporters and sponsors.
 
It is the wish of FPATT that the players and administrators can find an agreeable settlement to this dispute as soon as possible, in order that those blacklisted players can become part of a successful 2010 world cup campaign and hopefully surpass the incredible achievements of the 2006 Soca Warriors.

 
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Re: Let Warriors play.
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 02:56:49 PM »
FPATT is standing by to meet with the current administraton to work on the 2010 world cup campaign contract negotiations,which, given the current situation, are absolutely essential to ensure confidence amongst players, supporters and sponsors.

What is the latest number of players signed on?

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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 10:26:21 PM »
Kevin doh waste yuh time many TNT nationals are functionally literate dey can read and write but cannot comprehend. They are also computer literate as many are on this site
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 10:49:02 PM »
Yes FPATT from day one yuh say what yuh stand for and to this day yuh still stand on yuh word ,i hope jack see the difference between man and mouse, yuh should make JACK say a public apology to the warriors for callin them mercenaries.
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