TTFA or TTFF. Which is legally the administration?

[weary1969]

Coops, fraid Jack Warner like he father, he eh doing nothing.

Anyone here attending ?

For some reason the local base poster dont post no more.

Where Touches, Patriot, SM, BM, Swima, Weary, Brownsugar etc etc...

        I attended the meeting,what is it you expected of me?what is your problem?i home,i'm trying to update myself on what's going on before making decisions.What is it you doing?

Coops,

you taking on dese fellas?

VB

CO-SIGNNNNN

[Brownsugar]

Yu know something,coming home have made me realize how much shyt people on this forum does be posting.

Man talking about Coops afraid of Jack etc etc get alyu facts before yu post and stop the shyt talk,this is the the reason we not getting any where.

May be you all are now hearing about this 0rganization but it has been around for some time now,every single one one of the members are my personal friends because they are all ex Footballers.

i attended this meeting because i am in the country and was invited,it was my first so i made into an occasion to meet friends i had not seen for donkey years,i did not speak just observed and listen to get an idea on what this whole thing is about,it had several speakers,being my first i will hold my comments.I took the opportunity to meet our dear friend Brown Sugar who was the only female at the function,she said the pray to open proceedings,she can attest to i being there and when my name was mentioned she didn't know who Cooper was.

The thing with Coops you have to expect me to appear any where at any time,i hang with the good,bad and ugly,i am now getting my feet wet.   

 

Yes Coop's it was finally nice to meet you....   I haven't handed in an official report to Flex for posting as yet cuz its just been really, really, really hectic week.  I will try to organise it between today and tomorrow.   Before Flex ban mih....

[Sando]

Coops, cool nah man.

I was breaking chops from all de old talk in de past.

Glad to see you home, enjoy yourself boss.

Glad to see u was impress with Terry Fenwick training.

[Flex]

VFFOTT: TTFF acting illegally.
T&T Express Reports.

The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) is threatening the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) for what it claims are "illegal" operations.

By media release on Monday, VFFOTT vice-president Selby Browne questioned the legal standing of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF), as well as the financial support of Government for the Federation.

"Why (have) successive Governments been paying millions of taxpayers' dollars to this illegal TTFF, when the legal body to govern football in Trinidad and Tobago, incorporated by Parliament with Act 17 of 1982, is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA)?" the release asked.

VFFOTT also stated that "enough is enough", according to the release, and revealed that the Foundation has already written letters to the Ministry of Sport and the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC), as well as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), CONCACAF and FIFA to query those bodies' recognition of the TTFF.

The Foundation says things can no longer continue to be "business as usual with the TTFF" and has threatened legal action to prevent further activity by the Federation.

[Socafan]

VFFOTT: TTFF acting illegally.
T&T Express Reports.

The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) is threatening the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) for what it claims are "illegal" operations.

By media release on Monday, VFFOTT vice-president Selby Browne questioned the legal standing of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF), as well as the financial support of Government for the Federation.

"Why (have) successive Governments been paying millions of taxpayers' dollars to this illegal TTFF, when the legal body to govern football in Trinidad and Tobago, incorporated by Parliament with Act 17 of 1982, is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA)?" the release asked.

VFFOTT also stated that "enough is enough", according to the release, and revealed that the Foundation has already written letters to the Ministry of Sport and the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC), as well as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), CONCACAF and FIFA to query those bodies' recognition of the TTFF.

The Foundation says things can no longer continue to be "business as usual with the TTFF" and has threatened legal action to prevent further activity by the Federation.

This is why I cyar stand this pack ah jokers. Is years ago right here on this website/forum, that men was querying, "who is TTFF!!??", and what happened to the TTFA, and how come this new organization TTFF just so could command so much tax payer funds without seemingly any accountability or question from anybody who should care, such as  these "stakeholders". Is now they coming at the 99th hour with this half hearted bullshit? After so much damage is done?

Steeuupps.......

They are the problem!!!

[Football supporter]

VFFOTT: TTFF acting illegally.
T&T Express Reports.

The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) is threatening the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) for what it claims are "illegal" operations.

By media release on Monday, VFFOTT vice-president Selby Browne questioned the legal standing of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF), as well as the financial support of Government for the Federation.

"Why (have) successive Governments been paying millions of taxpayers' dollars to this illegal TTFF, when the legal body to govern football in Trinidad and Tobago, incorporated by Parliament with Act 17 of 1982, is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA)?" the release asked.

VFFOTT also stated that "enough is enough", according to the release, and revealed that the Foundation has already written letters to the Ministry of Sport and the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC), as well as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), CONCACAF and FIFA to query those bodies' recognition of the TTFF.

The Foundation says things can no longer continue to be "business as usual with the TTFF" and has threatened legal action to prevent further activity by the Federation.

This is why I cyar stand this pack ah jokers. Is years ago right here on this website/forum, that men was querying, "who is TTFF!!??", and what happened to the TTFA, and how come this new organization TTFF just so could command so much tax payer funds without seemingly any accountability or question from anybody who should care, such as  these "stakeholders". Is now they coming at the 99th hour with this half hearted bullshit? After so much damage is done?

Steeuupps.......

They are the problem!!!

To be fair, some of these guys have been on this since at least 2007. I know this coz thats when I met Tansley Thompson and he explained the whole sordid history to me!!

[Coop's]

When we say disband TTFF what are we trying to do,isn't TTFA and TTFF the same people,disbanding the TTFF does not change anything.

Why they wait until Jack gone to start this,Jack/Camps are the men who made these changes,both of them gone.We have been operateing under that label for a number of years and no one said anything,we made WC finals,we hosted and went to a number of WC's and tournaments under that label,how we going about disbanding that?i am no lawyer just asking.   

[FF]

When we say disband TTFF what are we trying to do,isn't TTFA and TTFF the same people,disbanding the TTFF does not change anything.

Why they wait until Jack gone to start this,Jack/Camps are the men who made these changes,both of them gone.We have been operateing under that label for a number of years and no one said anything,we made WC finals,we hosted and went to a number of WC's and tournaments under that label,how we going about disbanding that?i am no lawyer just asking.   

Coop's de major thing with the TTFF vs TTFA

The TTFF has a separate constitution and voting is in the hands of the zonal heads and them 6 alone. Thats why the cabal can have secret elections that you only find out about long after. This is how Camps stayed in power. Jack bought and owned the Zonal heads. Even trying to take over as a zonal head was difficult as president and Keith Look Loy found out last year.

However for the TTFA the votes used to be in the hands of every single registered club. I believe the referees association and the schools league had a vote too.

In short VFFOTT wants to disband the TTFF which is a private company registered under the name of Oliver Camps and return to the TTFA and put the power back in the hands of the people.

[100% Barataria]

When we say disband TTFF what are we trying to do,isn't TTFA and TTFF the same people,disbanding the TTFF does not change anything.

Why they wait until Jack gone to start this,Jack/Camps are the men who made these changes,both of them gone.We have been operateing under that label for a number of years and no one said anything,we made WC finals,we hosted and went to a number of WC's and tournaments under that label,how we going about disbanding that?i am no lawyer just asking.   

Coop's de major thing with the TTFF vs TTFA

The TTFF has a separate constitution and voting is in the hands of the zonal heads and them 6 alone. Thats why the cabal can have secret elections that you only find out about long after. This is how Camps stayed in power. Jack bought and owned the Zonal heads. Even trying to take over as a zonal head was difficult as president and Keith Look Loy found out last year.

However for the TTFA the votes used to be in the hands of every single registered club. I believe the referees association and the schools league had a vote too.

In short VFFOTT wants to disband the TTFF which is a private company registered under the name of Oliver Camps and return to the TTFA and put the power back in the hands of the people.

Yuh iz a man doh talk by de seat ah yuh pants and I actually never knew the difference between the two, if this is in fact the case, yeah, forward ever backward never, what a waste of a footballing talent and legacy with an incredibly bankrupt admin; shudder to think of where we could have been on the at least regional scale.  But the usual end to such a discourse is "who say beers"

[Coop's]

,

When we say disband TTFF what are we trying to do,isn't TTFA and TTFF the same people,disbanding the TTFF does not change anything.

Why they wait until Jack gone to start this,Jack/Camps are the men who made these changes,both of them gone.We have been operateing under that label for a number of years and no one said anything,we made WC finals,we hosted and went to a number of WC's and tournaments under that label,how we going about disbanding that?i am no lawyer just asking.   

Coop's de major thing with the TTFF vs TTFA

The TTFF has a separate constitution and voting is in the hands of the zonal heads and them 6 alone. Thats why the cabal can have secret elections that you only find out about long after. This is how Camps stayed in power. Jack bought and owned the Zonal heads. Even trying to take over as a zonal head was difficult as president and Keith Look Loy found out last year.

However for the TTFA the votes used to be in the hands of every single registered club. I believe the referees association and the schools league had a vote too.

In short VFFOTT wants to disband the TTFF which is a private company registered under the name of Oliver Camps and return to the TTFA and put the power back in the hands of the people.

      I understand all that but what i'm asking is,isn't the same people who runs the TTFA runs the TTFF?or one is the people (clubs) and the other our Football administrators.Was Jack/Camps ever in control or in charge of the TTFA?
      What i'm really getting at is who will be in the TTFA offices when the TTFF is disbanded,which administration will be running our Football,will there be changes in the personel that comprise our administration,i agree with disbanding the TTFF now i'm starting to look at after that is done.

[Deeks]

I understand all that but what i'm asking is,isn't the same people who runs the TTFA runs the TTFF?or one is the people (clubs) and the other our Football administrators.Was Jack/Camps ever in control or in charge of the TTFA?
      What i'm really getting at is who will be in the TTFA offices when the TTFF is disbanded,which administration will be running our Football,will there be changes in the personel that comprise our administration,i agree with disbanding the TTFF now i'm starting to look at after that is done.

If TTFF get disbanded. We just get a new set a people. It have plenty former ball players and capable people who stay away for football becuase of Jack and company. It have Selby, Tansley, Steve David. And all those who oppose the present regime. I want to say you, but I would prefer you take it easy.

[FF]

I understand all that but what i'm asking is,isn't the same people who runs the TTFA runs the TTFF?or one is the people (clubs) and the other our Football administrators.Was Jack/Camps ever in control or in charge of the TTFA?
      What i'm really getting at is who will be in the TTFA offices when the TTFF is disbanded,which administration will be running our Football,will there be changes in the personel that comprise our administration,i agree with disbanding the TTFF now i'm starting to look at after that is done.

If TTFF get disbanded. We just get a new set a people. It have plenty former ball players and capable people who stay away for football becuase of Jack and company. It have Selby, Tansley, Steve David. And all those who oppose the present regime. I want to say you, but I would prefer you take it easy.

also if de new set of people doing sh!t... it will be easier to vote dem out...

but then again  look how that working for we government... we voting de same sh!thongs in and out for umpteen years 

[Tallman]

VFFOTT meets to decide on legal action to save T&T football
VFFOTT Secretariat

The Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) membership will meet with football clubs and stakeholders to decide on taking legal action to save football in Trinidad and Tobago.

The meeting will be held on Saturday 6th October 2012, at the Barataria Sportplex, Barataria, located opposite the Barataria Oval, at 10:30 am.

The VFFOTT stakeholders meeting will focus on immediate action with respect to the removal of recognition of the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) as the governing body for football in T&T.

Mr. Selby Browne, Vice President, VFFOTT, confirmed Clubs from East Trinidad and all football stakeholders are invited.

Football stakeholders include: players, administrators, coaches, referees, trainers, managers, team owners, league operators, sponsors and team supporters, who will also discuss issues associated with the structure, administration, organization, operation and management of football in the country.

[Cocorite]

Without knowing much about this. . .Hoping for the best.

[Jack Horner]

How could a bunch of broke rejects help T&T football ?

 

I cant wait to see this joke unfold.

Gally tried and now he is in Couva macco-ing young girls playing cricket.

 

I'll tell you guys what, have VFFOTT call Jack, he will gladly help take down the current TTFF.

[Tallman]

VFFOTT again states: “It cannot be business as usual with the TTFF”
VFFOTT Secretariat

Mr. Selby Browne, Vice President of the Veteran Footballers Foundation of Trinidad and Tobago (VFFOTT) says the sole legal body to run football in this Republic is the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, established by an Act of the Parliament - Act 17 of 1982.

Based on information that the TTFF plans to hold an election under their Constitution on November 11th 2012, along with the sad state of football and the  poor treatment to footballers in this Republic, VFFOTT has written to the TTFF calling for an urgent meeting between representatives of the TTFF and VFFOTT within seven (7) days, at a Port of Spain venue, date and time, convenient to the TTFF, in the interest of putting football right in Trinidad and Tobago.

Failing such a meeting, VFFOTT will take the action necessary to restore football to its pristine status, after the steep  plunge and will  do what’s right to  place due recognition to the major asset of the football family, the present footballers and the generations to come.

VFFOTT also calls on the Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago Mrs. Kamla Persad Bissessar to have the Government of this Republic  recognize the Laws of Trinidad and Tobago with specific reference to Act 17 of 1982, as well as ensure payment is made to the National Footballers of World Cup 2006, as ordered by the Court, for a contract they entered into with Austin Jack Warner, her Minister of National Security.

VFFOTT will hold a Footballers Stakeholders Convention on Sunday 4th November 2012 at the Barataria Sportplex, Barataria at 10.30 am, at which a Trinidad and Tobago Football Executive Committee would be elected.

VFFOTT is committed to working along with the new Trinidad and Tobago Football Executive Committee to  ensure  the  refocusing,  restructuring and the proper development of football with focus on the quality of the game, the footballers and administration of integrity, says VFFOTT, Vice President, Mr. Selby Browne.

Mr. Selby Browne confirmed,  VFFOTT has an excellent response from football stakeholders, including clubs registered under the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, (TTFA)  Footballers, Coaches, Trainers, Sponsors and Fans, interested in joining with VFFOTT  to work together on a return of football in Trinidad and Tobago to its glory days of global recognition and respect.

[Jack Horner]

I do not know who is worst, Central FC, the 06 Warriors or VFFOTT.

Wake me up when anyone actually listens to these Imbeciles.

If they want the TTFF, they need to get in touch with Warner.

[Tallman]

One of de first tings Tim Kee need to address is this TTFF/TTFA issue. Yuh cyar still be operating unde ah company wit Camps listed as de owner. 

[Deeks]

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Flex it look like Horner infiltrate the site.

[weary1969]

One of de first tings Tim Kee need to address is this TTFF/TTFA issue. Yuh cyar still be operating unde ah company wit Camps listed as de owner. 

ENTTTTTTT Will ask him when I call.