Author Topic: Wim Rijsbergen suspended ! (Read 18165 times)

Midknight · « **Reply #60 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:18:12 AM »

Quote from: weary1969 on December 21, 2007, 10:50:27 PM

D TTFF take snail mail to new heights. Dey suspend d man Dec 5th and dey to a Press Release Dec 21st

Ah was wondering how many posts it woulda take for somebody to highlight this.

I just reach home ready to sleep - 7 in the morning, and that is mih day gone through right there...

fishs · « **Reply #61 on:** December 22, 2007, 01:54:28 AM »

Quote from: Midknight on December 22, 2007, 12:18:12 AM

Quote from: weary1969 on December 21, 2007, 10:50:27 PM
D TTFF take snail mail to new heights. Dey suspend d man Dec 5th and dey to a Press Release Dec 21st

Ah was wondering how many posts it woulda take for somebody to highlight this.

I just reach home ready to sleep - 7 in the morning, and that is mih day gone through right there...

It just made my day, Lincoln should a turn him into a piece a broccoli.

doc · « **Reply #62 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:23:03 AM »

Quote from: Jah Gol on December 21, 2007, 06:14:49 PM

Who say 2014 !

I sayin' 2018!!

asylumseeker · « **Reply #63 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:50:41 AM »

And this too shall pass ... all will be well. Better now rather than later.

just cool · « **Reply #64 on:** December 22, 2007, 04:53:27 AM »

I'm going back to my club football yes ! this is too much mickey mouse business for me, so before i end up in belleview or golden grove cause i just might have to dunn jack and he boys cause i am a serious serious mudaah f#### when it come to my football, i go do like quagmire. allyuh wake meh up when dem jokers qualify again!!

kaiser · « **Reply #65 on:** December 22, 2007, 07:19:14 AM »

i could write a long post about my reasons for saying this but i will get to the heart of the matter,wim is ah shit coach,that dutch system is shit,corneal is ah total asshole, mc comie is a word i wont say but it rhymes with month,carrington get ah u15 tournament to win with some of our brightest prospects and loss,ttff as i would always say is a whole set of viagara taking dinosaurs who could spoil vomit,lincoln phillip excluded though i have some degree of respect for him.

Football supporter · « **Reply #66 on:** December 22, 2007, 07:31:41 AM »

As its already been pointed out on this site, it appears Wim was suspended on 5th December. Wim has not contacted FPATT to discuss this or ask for assistance. As somebody inside the TTFF, I guess he believes that FPATT do not have enough power or ability to assist him. If, however, Wim approached FPATT, they wouls advise him, even though he is neither a member or a player.

I would like to make a couple of observations on the discussion so far. First, it is usual for a coach to be offered a 4 year contract, as the aim is to qualify for the next world cup. However, in some instances a 2 year clause is included. That way, if the performance of the team is not going well, there is time to get a new coach in place for WC qualifiers.

I am surprised nobody on this site has mentioned the name of John Barnes as the next coach. He said in his interview that he would be interested in coaching at any level in the Caribbean.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-F1Rc-VdiLA Check around 6.20 mark.

Its very convenient that he is returning in January. Also, he seems to be great friends with Jack Warner.

Barnes would be a massive PR victory for TTFF. Ex England International, won just about everything at club level, has great contacts in the game, would raise T&Ts profile in England and USA and has Trini blood in his veins.

Just a thought.

Big Magician · « **Reply #67 on:** December 22, 2007, 07:37:01 AM »

KAISER.... "spoil vomit"....brilliant

WestCoast · « **Reply #68 on:** December 22, 2007, 07:49:03 AM »

Quote from: FPATT on December 22, 2007, 07:31:41 AM

Barnes would be a massive PR victory for TTFF. Ex England International, won just about everything at club level, has great contacts in the game, would raise T&Ts profile in England and USA and has Trini blood in his veins.

Just a thought.

oh gaum man FPATT, de man sounds like a "mini me" of Jackula
you really think he could help?
his comments about the player situation sounded like he was keeping his head in the sand and maybe bordering on ignorance of the TRUE situation of the Jack Listed players.
I say good gnikcuf luck with him....it is my opinion that he is already in Jack's pocket

""The success of this region financial and otherwise not just on the playing field is down to Jack Warner, because Jack really has put the Caribbean on the map. And everyone in Europe, which is the stronghold of football if you like, recognizes, although FIFA is the governing world body, but even people in Europe recognize the role that Jack has played in bringing on football in this region. America has benefitted from Jack Warner. The great America has benefitted, so football has changed. It is business now and once upon a time people where being exploited, particularly in Africa. Of course, with someone as powerful as Jack Warner, he will ensure that the players and the associations of this region where we once upon a time may have been exploited will now not be exploited and they will benefit from having Jack on board

."
- John Barnes"

any who....if FPATT thinks he will be good for TnT Football, well good for allya.......who is me....is allya business allya have to organise.

supporter · « **Reply #69 on:** December 22, 2007, 08:09:39 AM »

Quote from: Grande on December 21, 2007, 04:50:17 PM

This Soca Warrior thing is too much headache and especially heartache yes. Men investing real emotional and financial effort into this thing and this is what happening

Yuh can't even get angry anymore...is just a sadness.

Say what

Brazil 2014 for sure

Well put Grande. This is just ridiculous. im losing hope in Trinidad and Tobago Football.

Small Magician aka Wazza · « **Reply #70 on:** December 22, 2007, 09:02:24 AM »

No offense to Anton but he is simply not good enough to get us to a World Cup.... firstly he may have the coaching methods and etc but he will not be respected from the 1st team coach...he will always be an assistant to them...

What we need is a Leo like figure... to demand discipline and Respect...sorry but even if Anton is a good coach(which he is) it will be wasteful... we need a top coach and we need a top coach soon

fishs · « **Reply #71 on:** December 22, 2007, 09:22:52 AM »

Quote from: Small Magician aka Wazza on December 22, 2007, 09:02:24 AM

No offense to Anton but he is simply not good enough to get us to a World Cup.... firstly he may have the coaching methods and etc but he will not be respected from the 1st team coach...he will always be an assistant to them...

What we need is a Leo like figure... to demand discipline and Respect...sorry but even if Anton is a good coach(which he is) it will be wasteful... we need a top coach and we need a top coach soon

Well said youth, Wim was not of the caliber either.

asylumseeker · « **Reply #72 on:** December 22, 2007, 10:10:23 AM »

Hmm, a busier than usual Saturday on the forum ...

Anyway, FPATT ... I don't want John Barnes anywhere close to the senior squad in that capacity.

asylumseeker · « **Reply #73 on:** December 22, 2007, 10:23:35 AM »

WC:
I had reserved comment on the written 'exploitation' comment by Barnes until I listened to the interview (as I now have). My sense is that Barnes is addressing 'exploitation' of a different texture. He's not speaking about the internal dynamics of football in Trinidad & Tobago.

WestCoast · « **Reply #74 on:** December 22, 2007, 10:26:48 AM »

Quote from: asylumseeker on December 22, 2007, 10:23:35 AM

WC:
I had reserved comment on the written 'exploitation' comment by Barnes until I listened to the interview (as I now have). My sense is that Barnes is addressing 'exploitation' of a different texture. He's not speaking about the internal dynamics of football in Trinidad & Tobago.

ok fair enough
but who has been a MAJOR player in the screwups of the last 30 years with regards to TnT Football and how the players have been treated.
one name: Jackula
So in my opinion Jackula has EXPLOITED our players right here in TnT for many many years.

asylumseeker · « **Reply #75 on:** December 22, 2007, 10:53:54 AM »

The price of progress. The cost of doing business. There are many different ways to interpret why we have the luxury of demanding more. Intransigence like (the double edged sword) cuts both ways.

By definition, he's also been involved in all the successes.

Quote from: WestCoast on December 22, 2007, 10:26:48 AM

Quote from: asylumseeker on December 22, 2007, 10:23:35 AM
WC:
I had reserved comment on the written 'exploitation' comment by Barnes until I listened to the interview (as I now have). My sense is that Barnes is addressing 'exploitation' of a different texture. He's not speaking about the internal dynamics of football in Trinidad & Tobago.
ok fair enough
but who has been a MAJOR player in the screwups of the last 30 years with regards to TnT Football and how the players have been treated.
one name: Jackula
So in my opinion Jackula has EXPLOITED our players right here in TnT for many many years.

WestCoast · « **Reply #76 on:** December 22, 2007, 11:02:22 AM »

Quote from: asylumseeker on December 22, 2007, 10:53:54 AM

The price of progress. The cost of doing business. There are many different ways to interpret why we have the luxury of demanding more. Intransigence like (the double edged sword) cuts both ways.
By definition, he's also been involved in all the successes.

yes oh so true
BUT
some would also say that the success that we have had are IN SPITE of the shananigans that Jackula has become so famous for.
Just one point if I may
for the latest world cup there were more qualifying positions compared with , lets say back in 1989, so MAYBE some could argue.......that Jackula manipulated the qualification process to make it easier for teams like us to qualify. Just being a devils advocate

Dont get me wrong, I was happy to see us in a world cup since we should have been there in 1974

truetrini · « **Reply #77 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:18:43 PM »

wim is ah shiot hound, ah glad dat asswipe gorn.

trinbago · « **Reply #78 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:32:14 PM »

Quote from: FPATT on December 22, 2007, 07:31:41 AM

As its already been pointed out on this site, it appears Wim was suspended on 5th December. Wim has not contacted FPATT to discuss this or ask for assistance. As somebody inside the TTFF, I guess he believes that FPATT do not have enough power or ability to assist him. If, however, Wim approached FPATT, they wouls advise him, even though he is neither a member or a player.

I would like to make a couple of observations on the discussion so far. First, it is usual for a coach to be offered a 4 year contract, as the aim is to qualify for the next world cup. However, in some instances a 2 year clause is included. That way, if the performance of the team is not going well, there is time to get a new coach in place for WC qualifiers.

I am surprised nobody on this site has mentioned the name of John Barnes as the next coach. He said in his interview that he would be interested in coaching at any level in the Caribbean.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-F1Rc-VdiLA Check around 6.20 mark.

Its very convenient that he is returning in January. Also, he seems to be great friends with Jack Warner.

Barnes would be a massive PR victory for TTFF. Ex England International, won just about everything at club level, has great contacts in the game, would raise T&Ts profile in England and USA and has Trini blood in his veins.

Just a thought.

Yes but what are JB's qualifications as a coach???

You saying he should cut he teeth with our SENIOR team??

Midknight · « **Reply #79 on:** December 22, 2007, 01:16:35 PM »

Quote from: FPATT on December 22, 2007, 07:31:41 AM

As its already been pointed out on this site, it appears Wim was suspended on 5th December. Wim has not contacted FPATT to discuss this or ask for assistance. As somebody inside the TTFF, I guess he believes that FPATT do not have enough power or ability to assist him. If, however, Wim approached FPATT, they wouls advise him, even though he is neither a member or a player.

I would like to make a couple of observations on the discussion so far. First, it is usual for a coach to be offered a 4 year contract, as the aim is to qualify for the next world cup. However, in some instances a 2 year clause is included. That way, if the performance of the team is not going well, there is time to get a new coach in place for WC qualifiers.

I am surprised nobody on this site has mentioned the name of John Barnes as the next coach. He said in his interview that he would be interested in coaching at any level in the Caribbean.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-F1Rc-VdiLA Check around 6.20 mark.

Its very convenient that he is returning in January. Also, he seems to be great friends with Jack Warner.

Barnes would be a massive PR victory for TTFF. Ex England International, won just about everything at club level, has great contacts in the game, would raise T&Ts profile in England and USA and has Trini blood in his veins.

Just a thought.

John Barnes is even less qualified than Wim to be the national coach of a team seeking a successive world cup qualification. If we are to ignore that on the basis that he is a famous ex England international with Trini blood, we might just as well start buying our reggaeboyz 2010 t shirts from now on. PR

Don't take this as a criticism per se of your post. Its my take on how I would view his possible appointment by the TTFF...

weary1969 · « **Reply #80 on:** December 22, 2007, 01:30:34 PM »

God go have to coach we to make we reach d next level once JW etal around

elan · « **Reply #81 on:** December 22, 2007, 01:59:48 PM »

Didn't the Government give the TTFF some millions to pay Wim and his staff earlier this year when Jack suspend all football? What did they do with that money, if Wim still have to say he eh get paid?

weary1969 · « **Reply #82 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:01:55 PM »

More money 4 Jack to pocket

Football supporter · « **Reply #83 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:45:46 PM »

Quote from: trinbago on December 22, 2007, 12:32:14 PM

Quote from: FPATT on December 22, 2007, 07:31:41 AM
As its already been pointed out on this site, it appears Wim was suspended on 5th December. Wim has not contacted FPATT to discuss this or ask for assistance. As somebody inside the TTFF, I guess he believes that FPATT do not have enough power or ability to assist him. If, however, Wim approached FPATT, they wouls advise him, even though he is neither a member or a player.

I would like to make a couple of observations on the discussion so far. First, it is usual for a coach to be offered a 4 year contract, as the aim is to qualify for the next world cup. However, in some instances a 2 year clause is included. That way, if the performance of the team is not going well, there is time to get a new coach in place for WC qualifiers.

I am surprised nobody on this site has mentioned the name of John Barnes as the next coach. He said in his interview that he would be interested in coaching at any level in the Caribbean.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-F1Rc-VdiLA Check around 6.20 mark.

Its very convenient that he is returning in January. Also, he seems to be great friends with Jack Warner.

Barnes would be a massive PR victory for TTFF. Ex England International, won just about everything at club level, has great contacts in the game, would raise T&Ts profile in England and USA and has Trini blood in his veins.

Just a thought.

Yes but what are JB's qualifications as a coach???

You saying he should cut he teeth with our SENIOR team??

At no point did I suggest that John Barnes should be T&Ts next manager! I was merely pointing out that its kind of convenient that Barnes turns up in Trini praising Warner and saying how he'd love to be a national coach, just around the time Wim is suspended.

Clearly, Barnes hasn't looked into the relationship between players and TTFF, or if he has, he doesn't care. However, I do believe he was commenting about exploitation in general rather than Warners involvement in T&T football.

asylumseeker · « **Reply #84 on:** December 22, 2007, 03:18:34 PM »

FPATT, ah could see the danger of your comments from a mile away ... misinterpretation is never a lost skill ... your intentions were fine buh yuh hadda be cautious with word association round here ...

***
Yuh know Barnes' Love Thy Neigbour assessment (de 70s TV show) of black mgrs (and his commentary in general) were fairly level ... fundamentally sound.

The disqualifier for him is his inactivity ... not his knowledge per se. I would add that I detected some vulnerability in his position as well ...

sjahrain · « **Reply #85 on:** December 22, 2007, 05:32:10 PM »

The next coach would be a Brazilian

I suspect .....Cafu

Now dont jump all over me like a cheap suit,I have no idea what his coaching credentials are,the minute I saw that he was in T&T a couple months ago,holding some clinics,I just suspected that something was up

I hope I am right

WestCoast · « **Reply #86 on:** December 22, 2007, 06:12:12 PM »

Quote from: FPATT on December 22, 2007, 02:45:46 PM

At no point did I suggest that John Barnes should be T&Ts next manager! I was merely pointing out that its kind of convenient that Barnes turns up in Trini praising Warner and saying how he'd love to be a national coach, just around the time Wim is suspended.

very sorry
My Bad....
I took your last paragraph in post #66 to mean that he had your blessing.....now I know that you were just making an observation
My Apologies

Storeboy · « **Reply #87 on:** December 22, 2007, 06:23:59 PM »

This further explains why TT fans dont show up to games until the last possible minute of qualifying. Iam mortified, but I should have expected that with the TTFF and Jack leading the charge, we would have to go throufgh a heart-breaking experience before ever qualifying again. How sad!

rick titus · « **Reply #88 on:** December 22, 2007, 06:29:35 PM »

I really have to wonder what is wrong with the people governing T&T football... I mean really how biased is the selection going to be now that Anton is the coach. He was positioing and scheming to get there, and now he is the man. It really is like a joke now. First the governing body rips off the players, and now this. When is anyone going to grow a back bone and do something?

Trini _2026 · « **Reply #89 on:** December 22, 2007, 08:39:06 PM »

Quote from: rick titus on December 22, 2007, 06:29:35 PM

I really have to wonder what is wrong with the people governing T&T football... I mean really how biased is the selection going to be now that Anton is the coach. He was positioing and scheming to get there, and now he is the man. It really is like a joke now. First the governing body rips off the players, and now this. When is anyone going to grow a back bone and do something?

you know about anton titus

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