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Re: Super Tuesday by the Numbers
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2008, 09:15:26 PM »
Yuh he fraid de Bush's?

steups yuh fraid kenedy's   why?

steups.

Obama clinton, Bush, Clinton de Bill all de same...socio-pathic people..cut from de same cloth.

yuh feel it wasy tuh be president?

all de money Obama raise, he have tuh pay back somehow...lol

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Re: Super Tuesday by the Numbers
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2008, 09:25:57 PM »
all you say is true and yes ah fraid baby bush also
as for kennedy check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hdhLG0g6A
 de man does just look evil
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Re: Super Tuesday by the Numbers
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2008, 11:05:31 AM »
Yuh he fraid de Bush's?

steups yuh fraid kenedy's why?

steups.

Obama clinton, Bush, Clinton de Bill all de same...socio-pathic people..cut from de same cloth.

yuh feel it wasy tuh be president?

all de money Obama raise, he have tuh pay back somehow...lol

To the Victor (s) go the spoils!

point taken. perhaps then support for candidates financed thru the public purse would be reasonable? or, take romney, he didn't need anyone else's money but took it nonetheless ... de devil hovering on both extremes ... ent?

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Re: Super Tuesday by the Numbers
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2008, 11:25:56 AM »
unless yuh is pnm.....den yuh use treasury money

nd yuh acting like yuh boy Mitt never raised funds etc....puhleeze

every candidate did...as in all
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The 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Thread
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2008, 07:51:07 AM »
McCain, Obama take rivalry to new heights
Tension forged in the Senate spills onto the campaign trail
By Jeff Zeleny

updated 11:31 p.m. CT, Wed., Feb. 13, 2008
WAUKESHA, Wis. - Their tempest began well before their bids for a presidential nomination.

When Senator John McCain claimed victory for a round of primaries on Tuesday, it was little surprise that he skipped over criticism of Senator Barack Obama’s policies. There will be plenty of time for that.

Instead, Mr. McCain zeroed in on another long-held annoyance, a perception that Mr. Obama wears a political halo.

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“I don’t seek the presidency on the presumption that I am blessed with such personal greatness,” Mr. McCain said. “That history has anointed me to save my country in its hour of need.”

A contentious relationship between Mr. McCain, Republican of Arizona, and Mr. Obama, Democrat of Illinois, has been percolating on Capitol Hill for more than two years.

As momentum picks up, so do jabs
Now it is being thrust to the forefront as Mr. Obama spends as much time taking on Mr. McCain as he does Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, telling voters here on Wednesday that “somewhere along the line he traded principles for his party’s nomination.”

“If you want the same as we’ve had in the last seven years,” Mr. Obama said, “then I think John McCain’s going to be a great choice.”

The exchanges, hardly uncommon in the throes of a biting race, carry residue of a dust-up they had two years ago and provide a window into how they view, and may approach, each other should they battle in a general election.

In a debate in 2006 on ethics in the Senate, which Mr. McCain regarded as a signature issue, he dressed down Mr. Obama and accused the freshman senator of disingenuousness. Mr. Obama called Mr. McCain cranky.

In public, that dispute melted away when the two cocked their fists at each other and hugged for a mutually beneficial photo opportunity. Their rapport has not advanced, and the two have a distant relationship. The two men are very different. Mr. McCain, 71, is a veteran of political and military battles. Mr. Obama, 46, is community organizer turned Ivy League graduate. Mr. McCain has told friends and associates that he views Mr. Obama as something of an upstart whose charmed political life delivered him to the same place Mr. McCain’s decades of public and military service did.

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And, associates said, Mr. McCain had always hoped to take on Mrs. Clinton.

Although Mrs. Clinton has been in the Senate just four more years than Mr. Obama, she has been on the Armed Services Committee and traveled around the world with Mr. McCain.

Examples of their mutual respect typically include a tale of holding a vodka-drinking contest in Estonia. Such a celebration may have been unlikely to happen with Mr. Obama, who on a trip to Russia in 2005 asked that his shot glass be filled with water.

The Democratic nomination is far from decided, and Mr. McCain could still have his wish to face Mrs. Clinton. But after winning 21 states, amassing more delegates and building a larger fund-raising network, Mr. Obama has increased his chances week by week, and his advisers are deliberating how to confront Mr. McCain, particularly because a selling point of both is their ability to court independents and moderates.

Praise, pause, attack
Mr. Obama’s early strategy is clear: No matter what the message, praise Mr. McCain for his service to the country, particularly because Mr. Obama was not in the military. It is, strategists said, a similar approach to how Bill Clinton dealt with Bob Dole in 1996.

“By the way, John McCain is a great American hero, a war hero,” Mr. Obama told voters here. “We honor his service.”

He proceeded to criticize Mr. McCain for supporting the extension of the Bush administration’s tax cuts. Mr. McCain once opposed the idea.

“George Bush may not be on the ballot this fall, but his tax cuts and his economic policies are,” Mr. Obama said. “And if John McCain wants to debate the specifics of how well the economy has worked for ordinary families over the last seven years, that is a debate that I am happy to have, because the American people know that Bush’s policies have not worked for ordinary Americans.”

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As Mr. Obama seeks to paint Mr. McCain as an extension of the current White House, Mr. McCain is seeking to raise questions about Mr. Obama’s readiness for the presidency. His critique carries a familiar frequency to questions that Mrs. Clinton raises.

He said Wednesday: “I’ve not observed every speech that he’s given, obviously. But they are singularly lacking in specifics.”

Battle hymns
Before an audience of Republicans on Tuesday, Mr. McCain was far more animated. “I have seen men’s hopes tested in hard and cruel ways that few will ever experience,” Mr. McCain said.

The exchanges recall the feuding on the ethics bill, which lingered for days and drew considerable notice, given Mr. McCain’s tone to a colleague.

“I understand how important the opportunity to lead your party’s effort to exploit this issue must seem to a freshman senator,” Mr. McCain wrote in a letter to Mr. Obama that he sent to every news outlet on Capitol Hill. “And I hold no hard feelings over your earlier disingenuousness.”

For his part, Mr. Obama has tended to highlight the generational differences, saying he represents the future and Mr. McCain represents the past. Mr. Obama’s advisers said although they have not determined how to deal with Mr. McCain, they intend to keep their criticism focused on differences over issues.

And no, they said, do not expect Mr. Obama to dust off the lyrics to a song he performed on March 11, 2006, when he appeared as a keynote speaker at the Gridiron Dinner in Washington. His words were written to the tune of “If I Only Had a Brain.”

“When a wide-eyed young idealist, confronts a seasoned realist, there’s bound to be some strain,” Mr. Obama sang perfectly on pitch. “With the game barely started, I’d be feeling less downhearted, if I only had McCain.”

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McCain aide won't stay on if Obama is the opponent
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2008, 01:57:34 PM »
McCain aide won't stay on if Obama is the opponent
Mark McKinnon, a top adviser in Republican Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign, said on National Public Radio's All Things Considered that he won't stay with the campaign if Sen. Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee and inevitably would be the target of attacks in the general election.

McKinnon, a campaign advertising specialist who helped get President Bush elected and re-elected, said that while he would support McCain "100%, ... I met Barack Obama, I read his book, I like him a great deal. I disagree with him on very fundamental issues. But I think, as I said, I think it would a great race for the country. I would simply be uncomfortable being in a campaign that would be inevitably attacking Barack Obama. I think it would be uncomfortable for me, and I think it would be bad for the McCain campaign."

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Re: McCain aide won't stay on if Obama is the opponent
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2008, 02:01:55 PM »
wow!! dais ah odd thing to say..WHILE still workin for the man

hes ah mole or wha?
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Re: McCain aide won't stay on if Obama is the opponent
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2008, 02:16:51 PM »
when ah hear dat on de radio and say..what????

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Re: McCain aide won't stay on if Obama is the opponent
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2008, 02:21:41 PM »
Almost as if the road was being paved for his journey to the white house....or elsewhere
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Re: McCain aide won't stay on if Obama is the opponent
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2008, 02:28:41 PM »
Almost as if the road was being paved for his journey to the white house....or elsewhere

Ent?

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Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2008, 07:52:07 PM »
Vicki Iseman in middle of McCain lobbyist scandal
Lobbyist Vicki Iseman is caught up in a scandal involving Republican presidential candidate John McCain.


Both John McCain and Vicki Iseman deny they ever had a romantic relationship.

From the NY Times:

Early in Senator John McCain’s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers.

A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, in his offices and aboard a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself - instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

When news organizations reported that Mr. McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist’s clients, the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement.

Mr. McCain, 71, and the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, 40, both say they never had a romantic relationship. But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity.
A decade ago a McCain's political career nearly ended in the Keating Five scandal. Since then he has claimed to be a crusader for stricter ethics and campaign finance rules.

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« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2008, 09:18:01 PM »
Excerpts from the NY Times article:

But the concerns about Mr. McCain’s relationship with Ms. Iseman underscored an enduring paradox of his post-Keating career. Even as he has vowed to hold himself to the highest ethical standards, his confidence in his own integrity has sometimes seemed to blind him to potentially embarrassing conflicts of interest.


Mr. McCain helped found a nonprofit group to promote his personal battle for tighter campaign finance rules. But he later resigned as its chairman after news reports disclosed that the group was tapping the same kinds of unlimited corporate contributions he opposed, including those from companies seeking his favor. He has criticized the cozy ties between lawmakers and lobbyists, but is relying on corporate lobbyists to donate their time running his presidential race and recently hired a lobbyist to run his Senate office.

“He is essentially an honorable person,” said William P. Cheshire, a friend of Mr. McCain who as editorial page editor of The Arizona Republic defended him during the Keating Five scandal. “But he can be imprudent.”

During Mr. McCain’s four years in the House, Mr. Keating, his family and his business associates contributed heavily to his political campaigns. The banker gave Mr. McCain free rides on his private jet, a violation of Congressional ethics rules (he later said it was an oversight and paid for the trips). They vacationed together in the Bahamas. And in 1986, the year Mr. McCain was elected to the Senate, his wife joined Mr. Keating in investing in an Arizona shopping mall.

Mr. Keating had taken over the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association and used its federally insured deposits to gamble on risky real estate and other investments. He pressed Mr. McCain and other lawmakers to help hold back federal banking regulators.

For years, Mr. McCain complied. At Mr. Keating’s request, he wrote several letters to regulators, introduced legislation and helped secure the nomination of a Keating associate to a banking regulatory board.

By early 1987, though, the thrift was careering toward disaster. Mr. McCain agreed to join several senators, eventually known as the Keating Five, for two private meetings with regulators to urge them to ease up. When Lincoln went bankrupt in 1989 — one of the biggest collapses of the savings and loan crisis, costing taxpayers $3.4 billion — the Keating Five became infamous. The scandal sent Mr. Keating to prison and ended the careers of three senators, who were censured in 1991 for intervening. Mr. McCain, who had been a less aggressive advocate for Mr. Keating than the others, was reprimanded only for “poor judgment” and was re-elected the next year.

Some people involved think Mr. McCain got off too lightly. William Black, one of the banking regulators the senator met with, argued that Mrs. McCain’s investment with Mr. Keating created an obvious conflict of interest for her husband. (Mr. McCain had said a prenuptial agreement divided the couple’s assets.) He should not be able to “put this behind him,” Mr. Black said. “It sullied his integrity.”

Mr. McCain made loosening the grip of special interests the central cause of his 2000 presidential campaign, inviting scrutiny of his own ethics. His Republican rival, George W. Bush, accused him of “double talk” for soliciting campaign contributions from companies with interests that came before the powerful Senate commerce committee, of which Mr. McCain was chairman. Mr. Bush’s allies called Mr. McCain “sanctimonious.”

At one point, his campaign invited scores of lobbyists to a fund-raiser at the Willard Hotel in Washington. While Bush supporters stood mocking outside, the McCain team tried to defend his integrity by handing the lobbyists buttons reading “ McCain voted against my bill.” Mr. McCain himself skipped the event, an act he later called “cowardly.”

By 2002, he had succeeded in passing the McCain-Feingold Act, which transformed American politics by banning “soft money,” the unlimited donations from corporations, unions and the rich that were funneled through the two political parties to get around previous laws.

One of his efforts, though, seemed self-contradictory. In 2001, he helped found the nonprofit Reform Institute to promote his cause and, in the process, his career. It collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in unlimited donations from companies that lobbied the Senate commerce committee. Mr. McCain initially said he saw no problems with the financing, but he severed his ties to the institute in 2005, complaining of “bad publicity” after news reports of the arrangement.
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Re: Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2008, 09:19:03 PM »
Asylum Seeker it looks like your man is doing the hanky panky...again!

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Re: Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2008, 10:35:46 PM »
Lord father these journalist them could work as barko in construction company they know how to dig for dirt . well Mackiee boy yuh was ah POW yuh escape that leh meh see yuh escape this one and after yuh answer that one yuh have ah nex question to answer . Keep yuh hands clean and let yuh good  works be seen .right now them journalist ploughin through dirt with ah sifter lookin for dirt on OBAMA.
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Re: Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2008, 11:51:07 PM »
in he old age he still huntin young flesh.
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

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Re: Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2008, 10:27:02 AM »
well...if dis scandal really buss and cause mccain to lose, I go really have to start believing in a lodge runnin tings in the US.

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Re: Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2008, 11:34:16 AM »
Whose reputation is at stake here? The NYT? McCain's? Or both? Let the chips fall where they may. Popcorn anyone?

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« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2008, 11:37:44 AM »

This is going to help him.  is the liberal NY Times = zero credibility with conservatives

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Re: Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2008, 11:48:03 AM »
Once dey eh find  Obama in no hankey pankey I good
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« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2008, 12:00:54 PM »

This is going to help him.  is the liberal NY Times = zero credibility with conservatives

sometimes you does make me wonder....???

Yuh know that if yuh in University in de Sataes that yuh could use de NY Times stories as  credible sources and references?

Yuh aware that The Gray lady is the reason why Times Square is called Times Square?

95 Pulitizer prizes?

also called the national paper of record?

According to a 2007 survey of public perceptions of major media outlets, 40% believe the Times has a liberal slant and 11% believe it has a conservative slant.
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Re: Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2008, 12:22:42 PM »
Once dey eh find Obama in no hankey pankey I good

... once dey eh make up no hankey pankey about him ... either way damage could be done ...

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« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2008, 12:30:54 PM »
Once dey eh find Obama in no hankey pankey I good

... once dey eh make up no hankey pankey about him ... either way damage could be done ...
maybe dais WHY McCain right hand man did quit ;)
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« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2008, 12:38:51 PM »
Bill Bennett introduced the view dcs is alluding to on CNN today ...

Look in many sectors of the USA the NYT is anathema ... people who wouldn't read it anyway (for content rather than reasons of bias) malign it purely because Rush Limbaugh, Hannity and others have held it up as representative of a liberal media bias ...

Thing is, many of those voters are either likely Huckabee voters or Paul supporters ... what Bennett is suggesting is that ppl running in his circle have suggested that this is an act of the Times up to its mission versus the right and that these acquaintances of his view the NYT coming out with this article as a rallying moment for conservatives to gather in support of McCain ...

Here's my view ... dahis clear and present tata ... that may be reasoning found among elements of certain ivory towers but I assure you it ent a widespread perspective ... McCain is on his own to clean this up ... moderates and independents do not possess the profile necessary (or willing) to circle the wagons versus the Times and are likely to sit this out ... if the right gets too aggressive on this it could co-opt gains made in the middle and slightly left of center in Mccain's favor ...

Steups. Bill Bennett's political mind seems to be reading what he wants to happen rather than how things will happen.

Here's the good thing ... according to how it ratchets up or down there will be a correlation on McCain's attacks against Obama ... right now Huckabee is takling the high ground and that's exceedingly sensible ...

Republicans have 3 months till convention time and we don't know whom is whose enemy.

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« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2008, 12:47:10 PM »
In recent days McCain has been hitting out @ Obama. I think the media is missing why he's doing that. Consider the effect of BOTH Hillary and McCain hitting out @ Obama simultaneously.

The prominent view in the media has been to analyse the attacks separately..

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« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2008, 06:41:01 PM »
WELL THE WAY I SEE IT, Clinton get away with smoking ganja, goerge W get away with doing blow, so Mc cain could more than pass with a little knock, at least we know the man is ah ladies man and he does take he lil snack on the side.
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« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2008, 09:34:07 PM »

I eh bother to read the whole story because it sound like BS and I wouldn't be surprised if that is how most people treat it.

Doh forget that New York Times still have that scandal with Jayson Blair lingering in people minds. Ah mean is total fabrications dey publish  lol

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« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2008, 09:19:36 AM »

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The New York Times reads like a gossip sheet
Commentary: Its McCain story is startling and distressing

By Jon Friedman, MarketWatch
Last update: 12:01 a.m. EST Feb. 22, 2008


NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Western civilization may have ended Thursday when the highfalutin New York Times lowered itself to the rank of shrill tabloid with its piece on John McCain. The Times published a front-page story suggesting -- wink, wink, nudge, nudge -- that the presumptive Republican favorite's campaign staff tried hard to keep lobbyist Vicki Iseman away from McCain during his 2000 run for the White House. McCain's people were concerned that her proximity to the Arizona senator might spark suspicions.The story's implication extended from suggestions that McCain favored Iseman's clients to worries that the whispers would make McCain, who has argued strenuously for campaign reform, look hypocritical. But the most salacious intimation is that he might have been having a romantic relationship with the lobbyist, who is 31 years his junior. Both have repudiated the speculation as untrue.Speaking evenly at a televised press conference Thursday morning, McCain, 71, vigorously denied any wrongdoing or inappropriate behavior with Iseman and said he was "very disappointed" in the Times' story. He looked and sounded cool and composed.

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The Times sure did publish a juicy profile about McCain, but I have no idea if the good stuff is actually true. That's because the newspaper leaned on anonymous sources to flesh out the story.I would expect a tabloid to run screaming into the night with an article like this -- not the Times, whose slogan, "All the News That's Fit to Print," looks tarnished right now.The Times can argue that the headline -- "For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk" -- trumpets a discussion about something that McCain's critics (and supporters) have long thought about: his vulnerability on ethics.As the Times astutely pointed out in the story: "It had been just a decade since an official favor for a friend with regulatory problems had nearly ended Mr. McCain's political career by ensnaring him in the Keating Five scandal. In the years that followed, he reinvented himself as the scourge of special interests, a crusader for stricter ethics and campaign finance rules, a man of honor chastened by a brush with shame."Full disclosure: I wouldn't characterize myself as a supporter of McCain in this election. I don't even care much about the morals of what might have happened between the two. By now, would anyone be truly surprised if a powerful public figure was messing around? Again, McCain denied it, but in any case, that would be a McCain family problem, not a Jon Friedman problem. It doesn't matter to me if the Times' story ends up helping McCain, either. He could actually gain support by garnering sympathy from conservatives who hate The New York Times even more than they distrust McCain. (Incidentally, the Times endorsed McCain for his party's presidential nomination.)I do, however, care about the media's sense of fair play and the quality of their reporting.

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I don't know what the Times hoped to accomplish when it ran this story. It had worked so hard to climb out of the shadow of Jayson Blair, the former Times reporter who fabricated many stories and became a poster child, along with the Times, for journalism's ills a few years ago.Thirteen months ago, Times Executive Editor Bill Keller couldn't disguise his satisfaction when he told me that he felt "a little vindication" after the 2006 elections because the Times had been attacked like a "pinata." Now, the Times is back under a cloud.The Times violated a basic tenet of journalism: Either you have the story, or you don't. If you have the goods, put the story on page one and shout about it from rooftops. If you don't, delete the flimsy, unsupported stuff. Like my professors at the Medill School of Journalism used to preach: When in doubt, leave it out.No newspaper should feel a need to swing at every pitch, especially one with the reputation of The New York Times.The McCain story raised more questions than it answered. Did McCain do something wrong, either personally or professionally? I still don't know.The Times circulated Keller's comments after the story was published, saying in part, "On the substance, we think the story speaks for itself."Yes, unfortunately, Mr. Keller, it does.

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Re: Is Mc cain in trouble here? romantic liasons maybe???
« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2008, 10:51:52 AM »
John Friedman is ah damn neo-con.

so what if he and his 'reputable" media blog says what it says.

hat did he have to say when de cons went after Clinton?

steups

who did the ny times endorse as de republican nominee again?

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« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2008, 11:10:11 AM »

u really think this story will last past sunday?

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« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2008, 11:21:07 AM »
John Friedman is ah damn neo-con.

so what if he and his 'reputable" media blog says what it says.

hat did he have to say when de cons went after Clinton?

steups

who did the ny times endorse as de republican nominee again?

good point. buh even as ah say so i am mindful of two things ...

1. the nyt editorial page has "separation" from the other pages and

2. from a cynical viewpoint ... build him up then cut him down ... both sell papers (recall they have had this story in the pipeline for months) ...

obviously 1 is more meritorious than 2.

 

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