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« on: June 13, 2007, 08:33:34 AM »
http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/afrolatin/part2/index.html

Black denial
Nearly all Dominican women straighten their hair, which experts say is a direct result of a historical learned rejection of all things black
By Frances Robles
frobles@miamiherald.com

SANTO DOMINGO -- Yara Matos sat still while long, shiny locks from China were fastened, bit by bit, to her coarse hair.
Not that Matos has anything against her natural curls, even though Dominicans call that pelo malo -- bad hair.

But a professional Dominican woman just should not have bad hair, she said. "If you're working in a bank, you don't want some barrio-looking hair. Straight hair looks elegant," the bank teller said. "It's not that as a person of color I want to look white. I want to look pretty."

And to many in the Dominican Republic, to look pretty is to look less black.

Dominican hairdressers are internationally known for the best hair-straightening techniques. Store shelves are lined with rows of skin whiteners, hair relaxers and extensions.

Racial identification here is thorny and complex, defined not so much by skin color but by the texture of your hair, the width of your nose and even the depth of your pocket. The richer, the "whiter." And, experts say, it is fueled by a rejection of anything black.

"I always associated black with ugly. I was too dark and didn't have nice hair," said Catherine de la Rosa, a dark-skinned Dominican-American college student spending a semester here. "With time passing, I see I'm not black. I'm Latina.
"At home in New York everyone speaks of color of skin. Here, it's not about skin color. It's culture."

The only country in the Americas to be freed from black colonial rule -- neighboring Haiti -- the Dominican Republic still shows signs of racial wounds more than 200 years later. Presidents historically encouraged Dominicans to embrace Spanish Catholic roots rather than African ancestry.

Here, as in much of Latin America -- the "one drop rule'' works in reverse: One drop of white blood allows even very dark-skinned people to be considered white.

As black intellectuals here try to muster a movement to embrace the nation's African roots, they acknowledge that it has been a mostly fruitless cause.

Black pride organizations such as Black Woman's Identity fizzled for lack of widespread interest. There was outcry in the media when the Brotherhood of the Congos of the Holy Spirit -- a community with roots in Africa -- was declared an oral patrimony of humanity by UNESCO. "There are many times that I think of just leaving this country because it's too hard," said Juan Rodríguez Acosta, curator of the Museum of the Dominican Man.

Acosta, who is black, has pushed for the museum to include controversial exhibits that reflect many Dominicans' African background. "But then I think: Well if I don't stay here to change things, how will things ever change?"

A walk down city streets shows a country where blacks and dark-skinned people vastly outnumber whites, and most estimates say that 90 percent of Dominicans are black or of mixed race. Yet census figures say only 11 percent of the country's nine million people are black.

To many Dominicans, to be black is to be Haitian. So dark-skinned Dominicans tend to describe themselves as any of the dozen or so racial categories that date back hundreds of years -- Indian, burned Indian, dirty Indian, washed Indian, dark Indian, cinnamon, moreno or mulatto, but rarely negro.

The Dominican Republic is not the only nation with so many words to describe skin color. Asked in a 1976 census survey to describe their own complexions, Brazilians came up with 136 different terms, including café au lait, sunburned, morena, Malaysian woman, singed and "toasted."

"The Cuban black was told he was black. The Dominican black was told he was Indian," said Dominican historian Celsa Albert, who is black. "I am not Indian. That color does not exist. People used to tell me, ‘You are not black.' If I am not black, then I guess there are no blacks anywhere, because I have curly hair and dark skin."

Using the word Indian to describe dark-skinned people is an attempt to distance Dominicans from any African roots, Albert and other experts said. She noted that it's not even historically accurate: The country's Taino Indians were virtually annihilated in the 1500s, shortly after Spanish colonizers arrived.

Researchers say the de-emphasizing of race in the Dominican Republic dates to the 1700s, when the sugar plantation economy collapsed and many slaves were freed and rose up in society.

Later came the rocky history with Haiti, which shares the island of Hispaniola with the Dominican Republic. Haiti's slaves revolted against the French and in 1804 established their own nation. In 1822, Haitians took over the entire island, ruling the predominantly Hispanic Dominican Republic for 22 years.

To this day, the Dominican Republic celebrates its independence not from centuries-long colonizer Spain, but from Haiti.
"The problem is Haitians developed a policy of black-centrism and . . . Dominicans don't respond to that," said scholar Manuel Núñez, who is black. "Dominican is not a color of skin, like the Haitian."

Dictator Rafael Trujillo, who ruled from 1930 to 1961, strongly promoted anti-Haitian sentiments, and is blamed for creating the many racial categories that avoided the use of the word "black."
The practice continued under President Joaquín Balaguer, who often complained that Haitians were "darkening'' the country.
In the 1990s, he was blamed for thwarting the presidential aspirations of leading black candidate José Francisco Peña Gómez by spreading rumors that he was actually Haitian.

"Under Trujillo, being black was the worst thing you could be," said Afro-Dominican poet Blas Jiménez. "Now we are Dominican, because we are not Haitian. We are something, because we are not that."

Jiménez remembers when he got his first passport, the clerk labeled him "Indian." He protested to the director of the agency.
"I remember the man saying, ‘If he wants to be black, let him be black!' '' Jiménez said.

Resentment toward anything Haitian continues, as an estimated one million Haitians live in the Dominican Republic, most working in the sugar and construction industries. Mass deportations often mistakenly include black Dominicans, and Haitians have been periodically lynched in mob violence.
The government has been trying to deny citizenship and public education to the Dominican-born children of illegal Haitian migrants.

When migrant-rights activist Sonia Pierre won the prestigious Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award in 2006, the government responded by trying to revoke her citizenship, saying she is actually Haitian.

"There's tremendous resistance to blackness -- black is something bad," said black feminist Sergia Galván. ‘‘Black is associated with dark, illegal, ugly, clandestine things. There is a prototype of beauty here and a lot of social pressure. There are schools where braids and natural hair are prohibited."

Galván and a loosely knit group of women have protested European canons of beauty, once going so far as to rally outside a beauty pageant. She and other experts say it is now more common to see darker-skinned women in the contests -- but they never win.

Several women said the cultural rejection of African looking hair is so strong that people often shout insults at women with natural curls.
"I cannot take the bus because people pull my hair and stick combs in it," said wavy haired performance artist Xiomara Fortuna. "They ask me if I just got out of prison. People just don't want that image to be seen."

The hours spent on hair extensions and painful chemical straightening treatments are actually an expression of nationalism, said Ginetta Candelario, who studies the complexities of Dominican race and beauty at Smith College in Massachusetts. And to some of the women who relax their hair, it's simply a way to have soft manageable hair in the Dominican Republic's stifling humidity.

"It's not self-hate," Candelario said. "Going through that is to love yourself a lot. That's someone saying, ‘I am going to take care of me.' It's nationalist, it's affirmative and celebrating self."

Money, education, class -- and of course straight hair -- can make dark-skinned Dominicans be perceived as more "white," she said.

Many black Dominicans here say they never knew they were black -- until they visited the United States.

"During the Trujillo regime, people who were dark skinned were rejected, so they created their own mechanism to fight it," said Ramona Hernández, Director of the Dominican Studies Institute at City College in New York. "When you ask, ‘What are you?' they don't give you the answer you want . . . saying we don't want to deal with our blackness is simply what you want to hear."

Hernández, who has olive-toned skin and a long mane of hair she blows out straight, acknowledges she would "never, never, never'' go to a university meeting with her natural curls.
"That's a woman trying to look cute; I'm a sociologist," she said.

Asked if a black Dominican woman can be considered beautiful in her country, Hernández leapt to her feet.
"You should see how they come in here with their big asses!'' she said, shuffling across her office with her arms extended behind her back, simulating an enormous rear-end. "They come in here thinking they are all that, and I think, 'doesn't she know she's not really pretty?' "

Maria Elena Polanca is a black woman with the striking good looks. She said most Dominicans look at her with curiosity, as if a black woman being beautiful were something strange.
She spends her days promoting a hair straightener at La Sirena, a Santo Domingo department store that features an astonishing array of hair straightening products.

"Look, we have bad hair, bad. Nobody says 'curly.' It's bad," she said. "You can't go out like that. People will say, 'Look at that nest! Someone light a match!' ''

Purdue University professor Dawn Stinchcomb, who is African American, said that when she came here in 1999 to study African influences in literature, people insulted her in the street.
Waiters refused to serve her. People wouldn't help Stinchcomb with her research, saying if she wanted to study Africans, she'd have to go to Haiti.

"I had people on the streets . . . yell at me to get out of the sun because I was already black enough," she said. "It was hurtful. . . . I was raised in the South and thought I could handle any racial comment. I never before experienced anything like I did in the Dominican Republic.

"I don't have a problem when people who don't look like me say hurtful things. But when it's people who look just like me?"

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2007, 09:26:43 AM »
women is de most vain creature it have on this earth.these black women preoccupied with straightenin and all ah this bullshit.yuh will never see ah white woman usin ah afro comb or jerry curlin she hair.
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2007, 09:29:15 AM »
women is de most vain creature it have on this earth.these black women preoccupied with straightenin and all ah this bullshit.yuh will never see ah white woman usin ah afro comb or jerry curlin she hair.

well some years ago, I was still in de US Military, I went to see ah fight with some Dominicans and dem...man black like burnt molasses, saying he eh black he Hispanic.

Steups, so is NOT de woman, is de man and dem, is dem who making de woman feel dey unattractive..so dem going thru dat shit!

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 09:34:07 AM »
women is de most vain creature it have on this earth.these black women preoccupied with straightenin and all ah this bullshit.yuh will never see ah white woman usin ah afro comb or jerry curlin she hair.

well some years ago, I was still in de US Military, I went to see ah fight with some Dominicans and dem...man black like burnt molasses, saying he eh black he Hispanic.

Steups, so is NOT de woman, is de man and dem, is dem who making de woman feel dey unattractive..so dem going thru dat shit!
in argentina is de opposite they consider themselves caucasian,to me and de rest of de world they are latin.
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 09:41:04 AM »
it does always bewilder me y some afro-trinidadian women would want to straighten their hair or use a weave to look like someone or something they are not. I sometimes view this as them not being proud of their heritage and natural beauty. I mean.....y dont they view themselves as pretty the way they are?
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 09:41:38 AM »
man ketch yuh falling self!

Fellas like you yak and yak bout liking a woman to be sheself, den pass a natural sister straight in de fete and head fuh de false hair yuh see whappen whappen across so...

rewind and come again to tell de troot! ::)
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2007, 09:42:35 AM »
man ketch yuh falling self!

Fellas like you yak and yak bout liking a woman to be sheself, den past a natural sister straight in de fete and head fuh de false hair yuh see whappen ehappen across so...

rewind and come again to tell de troot! ::)
:rotfl:

shhhh - u wha everybody find me out a what?
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2007, 09:45:44 AM »
nah doh laugh sammy. I does watch allyuh
Look in de babe tread. How many rasta sisters in dey? I stop reading de tread fuh a few weeks so unless yuh put all natural sisters since den, leh me know.

FRAUDS!! TOUT MONDE!!

Tell me true! How many natural sisters in de tread all yuh running???
Den tell me how much fake hair get post?

Boss of my hind quarters...come front!
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2007, 09:47:40 AM »
man ketch yuh falling self!

Fellas like you yak and yak bout liking a woman to be sheself, den past a natural sister straight in de fete and head fuh de false hair yuh see whappen ehappen across so...

rewind and come again to tell de troot! ::)
:rotfl:

shhhh - u wha everybody find me out a what?

look at dat. I talking to Boss and ah ketch Sammy to confess...
 :rotfl: :rotfl:

well look at dat nuh.

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2007, 09:49:38 AM »
man ketch yuh falling self!

Fellas like you yak and yak bout liking a woman to be sheself, den past a natural sister straight in de fete and head fuh de false hair yuh see whappen ehappen across so...

rewind and come again to tell de troot! ::)
:rotfl:

shhhh - u wha everybody find me out a what?

look at dat. I talking to Boss and ah ketch Sammy to confess...
 :rotfl: :rotfl:

well look at dat nuh.
  ;D
anyhow......dis is the real scene - :afro:
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2007, 09:51:33 AM »
Ah went and peep on de lass page in de babes tread. Meh lef eye fall on a boluckshous woman on a park bench who look like she ingess a family of 4. All yuh reach bottom oui.

But NOT ONE RASTA BABE!!

FRAUDS

steupse
pfffftttt

look all yuh make meh front plate drop out on de keyboard. AND AH TELL ALL YUH DOH MAKE ME STEUPSE???
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 09:57:00 AM »
sammy yuh coward. i like natural woman..but d eones with the softer variety ah hair. dais my choice.
queenie i never see yuh...but yuh hair?? negro..eh?/ or it naturall but softer dan ....
i have nuttin agasint negro women wiht thier hair natrual ras etc. and it have some sweet sweet sweet ones out there.
is a bald head chick natural?? cause dais to natural for me.


also r u saying is men fault women chose to strighten thier hair?? wanna bet if women say screw allyuh is either u take meh with meh hair so or not...men take it...

back to de issue at hand..... if d epeople perfer to be called latina why dat is a big issue dey identify wiht ha certian culture more... anyone ask me bout me i say i trini first i not identifiable by a race rather by my culture dais jus me, and if i wa sindian white syrian or chinne i woulda do de same thing..
besides i not black i trini(ah rela callaloo)
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007, 10:00:30 AM »
I never say is men's fault eh? Read my posts good. Is somebody else say dat.

I doh blame nobody for my actions but ah does watch all yuh good. Hypocrite posts here...

whey boss and TT?
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 10:05:03 AM »
I never say is men's fault eh? Read my posts good. Is somebody else say dat.

I doh blame nobody for my actions but ah does watch all yuh good. Hypocrite posts here...

whey boss and TT?
i sure u watch good.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2007, 10:07:45 AM »
of course...I'm a straight female, who you want me to watch?  ;D

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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2007, 10:08:06 AM »
I say so.  But queenie ketch meh too, I eh go lie, I doh like nappy head either, but is programming, and society.  Is only lately I finding woman with gren gren nice

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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2007, 10:08:26 AM »
of course...I'm a straight female, who you want me to watch?  ;D

lol :angel:
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2007, 10:11:25 AM »
but queenie, yuh notice dat I say is man who does create dese feelings eh.  But at de same time dis self loathing by latinas, and latinos gorn too far!

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2007, 10:13:00 AM »
but queenie, yuh notice dat I say is man who does create dese feelings eh.  But at de same time dis self loathing by latinas, and latinos gorn too far!
but de people latina what worng with that....dye eh say dey white, they not black, they sya they latina...not black
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2007, 10:13:08 AM »
sammy yuh coward. i like natural woman..but d eones with the softer variety ah hair. dais my choice.
queenie i never see yuh...but yuh hair??

l0l
 i s not about who i like or how i liek them, the question is y dem girls does run down weave so much...eg...i does see girls here in work - one day their hair is short and the other day it long and colored...and sometimes i does wanna laugh.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2007, 10:14:04 AM »
den all yuh should be more honest. Doh come saying how we dis and dat while you have plenty to answer for in de issue.

Talk cheap. Jumping up and saying you like natural sisters but arse ONE light skinned barbie pass all yuh wid she Made In Indian hair dong to she bamsee yuh dropping de sister like a hot pot and gorn.

Doubt me? Look in all yuh own babes tread!! I not lying on yuh.

And to make matters more worse again. When a non-Black fella start to smile at a natural sister yuh want to buss he head.

FRAUDS!!!

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2007, 10:15:49 AM »
allyuh does real make me laugh on this site yes. :rotfl:
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2007, 10:19:32 AM »
den all yuh should be more honest. Doh come saying how we dis and dat while you have plenty to answer for in de issue.

Talk cheap. Jumping up and saying you like natural sisters but arse ONE light skinned barbie pass all yuh wid she Made In Indian hair dong to she bamsee yuh dropping de sister like a hot pot and gorn.

Doubt me? Look in all yuh own babes tread!! I not lying on yuh.

And to make matters more worse again. When a non-Black fella start to smile at a natural sister yuh want to buss he head.

FRAUDS!!!
most ha de women i post in de thread dougla or indian or mix with somehting. i cyah see how men choices = frauds??
wey yuh proof dat men does wanna buss"non black" felals head..iyuh have a thread to show proof for dat??


edit.. at the end of the day my criterion for women are
1. trini
2. interms of looks dougla, mix, indian etc etc in that order..lol ( but ah sweet white or balck chick over ah facially challegned dougla mix and indian any day. looks before ehnicity)
3. ambition etc..man was never intialy attacted to brains..if eh say so he friggin lie

4. 5 and six bearls no relevance..lol
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2007, 10:20:43 AM »
I doh tink I open dat babes thread but twice, but dat is not de point, Yuh eh lie at all Queenie, not one bit, me eh ashamed to admit dat, but ah DOH LIKE DE HORSE TAIL hanging on dem head at all, at all


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Talk cheap. Jumping up and saying you like natural sisters but arse ONE light skinned barbie pass all yuh wid she Made In Indian hair dong to she bamsee yuh dropping de sister like a hot pot and gorn.

hahahahahahaha...yuh have ah real way with words yes.

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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2007, 10:23:23 AM »
I answering for myself eh? The other ladies in here could come and give their two cents.

I did the perm thing. Chemicals in my hair, cutting, perming, all that foolishness. No weave though. DAT is nasty.
But I stopped for almost 8 years now.

Sammy, some women like change eh? It can be as simple as that. Up today, down tomorrow, wig the next day.
And yes, images have been telling us that our hair is not attractive and we bought that load of shinola for decades.

You men did too! How many men wear their hair long and natural? How many cut it all off? How many of you older ones actually permed like James Brown and Ashford? Jheri curl? finger wave? You remember Denzil Washington in the openign scenes of Malcolm X? Home perm?

talk troot!

Advertising is a biatch! And we buy it!

I take my son for his haircut and see older men in there STILL perming!!! The yougn fella fading the hair to nothing!

So is not we alone who get ketch.

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Re: I am NOT Black I am a latina!...STEUPS..dese people gorn thru oui!
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2007, 10:24:09 AM »
I answering for myself eh? The other ladies in here could come and give their two cents.

I did the perm thing. Chemicals in my hair, cutting, perming, all that foolishness. No weave though. DAT is nasty.
But I stopped for almost 8 years now.

Sammy, some women like change eh? It can be as simple as that. Up today, down tomorrow, wig the next day.
And yes, images have been telling us that our hair is not attractive and we bought that load of shinola for decades.

You men did too! How many men wear their hair long and natural? How many cut it all off? How many of you older ones actually permed like James Brown and Ashford? Jheri curl? finger wave? You remember Denzil Washington in the openign scenes of Malcolm X? Home perm?

talk troot!

Advertising is a biatch! And we buy it!

I take my son for his haircut and see older men in there STILL perming!!! The yougn fella fading the hair to nothing!

So is not we alone who get ketch.
i have dreds and short form ah nappy fro cyah get more natural than dat
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Re: I am NOT Black I am a latina!...STEUPS..dese people gorn thru oui!
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2007, 10:28:03 AM »
man ketch yuh falling self!

Fellas like you yak and yak bout liking a woman to be sheself, den past a natural sister straight in de fete and head fuh de false hair yuh see whappen ehappen across so...

rewind and come again to tell de troot! ::)
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shhhh - u wha everybody find me out a what?

look at dat. I talking to Boss and ah ketch Sammy to confess...
 :rotfl: :rotfl:

well look at dat nuh.
queen i have weakness fuh all woman,they could have rasta,ah still puttin ah lovin on them,which i did already.straight hair,blonde hair,nappy hair,i not no hairdresser,they could have on ah wig or even baldhead me eh care.
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

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Re: I am NOT Black I am a latina!...STEUPS..dese people gorn thru oui!
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2007, 10:31:19 AM »
my hair cur short, but never had use fuh chemicals at all, but me eh go lie nuff ah meh boys did it...look at michael jackson.  little richard, james brown, rick james etc.

advertising has a great impact, but i find in de US and other parts of the world, women of african descent are more in tune with their blackness, and that is evidenced by the number of products aimed at african hair as well as advertising trends.

i find de latina/latino ting to be much deeper dan jes ah hair issue doh, and if yuh read de article carefully, it is full denial of their blackness

How many black americans you know dat going around with stright hair saying dey eh black/

dat is de real issue for me.

dem black like meh keyboard, but dem is indian???

steups

even when james Brown was straightening he hair, he and Sammy davis Junior, yuh hear dem singing :  "say it loud we balck and proud!"
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Re: I am NOT Black I am a latina!...STEUPS..dese people gorn thru oui!
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2007, 10:32:07 AM »
man ketch yuh falling self!

Fellas like you yak and yak bout liking a woman to be sheself, den past a natural sister straight in de fete and head fuh de false hair yuh see whappen ehappen across so...

rewind and come again to tell de troot! ::)
:rotfl:

shhhh - u wha everybody find me out a what?

look at dat. I talking to Boss and ah ketch Sammy to confess...
 :rotfl: :rotfl:

well look at dat nuh.
queen i have weakness fuh all woman,they could have rasta,ah still puttin ah lovin on them,which i did already.straight hair,blonde hair,nappy hair,i not no hairdresser,they could have on ah wig or even baldhead me eh care.

well from what yuh say yuh could do tuh dat body builder woman..ah eh disagreeing with you at all.

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Re: I am NOT Black I am a latina!...STEUPS..dese people gorn thru oui!
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2007, 10:34:29 AM »
man ketch yuh falling self!

Fellas like you yak and yak bout liking a woman to be sheself, den past a natural sister straight in de fete and head fuh de false hair yuh see whappen ehappen across so...

rewind and come again to tell de troot! ::)
:rotfl:

shhhh - u wha everybody find me out a what?

look at dat. I talking to Boss and ah ketch Sammy to confess...
 :rotfl: :rotfl:

well look at dat nuh.
queen i have weakness fuh all woman,they could have rasta,ah still puttin ah lovin on them,which i did already.straight hair,blonde hair,nappy hair,i not no hairdresser,they could have on ah wig or even baldhead me eh care.

well from what yuh say yuh could do tuh dat body builder woman..ah eh disagreeing with you at all.
TT all woman need lovin.lol.
soon ah go b ah lean mean bulling machine.

 

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