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Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« on: February 03, 2008, 11:43:22 PM »
Just say no to Mr Warner.
By: Martin Samuel (Times).


So now we know what the FA means when it claims to be influential in Fifa circles. Influential as in acquiescent; influential as in mute and unseeing; influential as in prepared to do anything, to sacrifice any principle or last crumb of self-respect in a vain grab for the 2018 World Cup.
There is a good chance that England will end their season with a match in Trinidad & Tobago, at the invitation of Jack Warner, the Fifa vice-president and president of Concacaf. Ostensibly it will mark the centenary of football on the islands; in reality it will be an exercise in glad-handing one of the most powerful figures in the world game - a man who has stated his aversion to a World Cup in England.
There is a suggestion that Warner will have to retract some of his more incendiary comments if England are to make the trip and the FA may even dress this up as a moral victory. It is nothing of the sort. If England follow Warner’s beckoning, crooked finger in the hope of bolstering the 2018 bid, they give credibility to one of the most despicable figures in football.
Warner’s continued presence at the right hand of Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, leaves the organisation without authority while its leader pontificates on moral and ethical issues. In 2006, World Cup tickets allocated to Trinidad & Tobago were sold in packages by a travel company run by Warner’s son, Daryan. Fifa’s executive committee expressed disapproval but claimed that there was no proof that Jack Warner knew what Daryan Warner was doing, or that the son got hold of tickets for a Fifa tournament through his father, the vice-president of Fifa. Profits from this scheme may have run into seven figures.
After the competition, Warner offered Trinidad & Tobago’s World Cup players a bonus of £498 each, claiming that his federation had made a profit in the region of £1.462 million from the tournament, before deducting costs of £1.434 million. Government figures put the World Cup income at nearer £13.862 million. Warner’s reaction was to attempt to ban any dissenting players from the team and, again, Fifa turned a blind eye. This was, apparently, a localised dispute.
There is more. According to John McBeth, the former president of the Scottish FA, Warner asked for a cheque from Trinidad & Tobago’s friendly international against Scotland on May 30, 2004 to be made to him personally, rather than to his federation. McBeth refused.
Sport and ethics are often strange bedfellows, as the presence of the Olympic Games in Beijing demonstrates. It is wrong that sportsmen are required to make value judgments about men such as Robert Mugabe when governments are too cowardly to act. Warner’s case is different. The FA is not being asked to take a political stand by refusing the trip to Trinidad & Tobago. Saying no to Warner is saying no to the abuse of power at the top of the game. Sadly, it is more likely that the FA will submit in the craven hope of garnering the support of a man whose patronage is the very sign that the mission is misguided. If this is what needs to be done to get the World Cup, why would any decent nation want it?
Fabio Capello keen to fix up June Trinidad trip.
By: Henry Winter (Telegraph).


Fabio Capello has given the Football Association's marketing men permission to organise a controversial June 3 friendly with Trinidad and Tobago in Port of Spain to celebrate the centenary of the local federation. The leading figure in Trinidad and Tobago football, Fifa vice-president Jack Warner, would still be expected to retract disparaging comments about "irritant" England before Soho Square sanctions a trip guaranteed to vex Premier League managers.
If Warner explains why he observed that "England invented the sport but have never made any impact on world football" and "nobody in Europe likes England", and also guarantees that the T and T players are properly paid, then the match will go ahead.
For all their annoyance over Warner's derogatory remarks, and enduring unease over allegations of corruption placed at his door (most recently over ticket sales at the 2006 World Cup), the FA are particularly keen on the fixture because Concacaf's president can deliver three Fifa votes that will assist the English in their bid to host the 2018 World Cup.
Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.
FA officials laugh at the suggestion that such a driven coach as Capello would acquiesce to a friendly fixture programme that did not primarily serve his team-building purposes; they are simply delighted that his choice also benefits their 2018 push. Any doubts about Capello being his own man were dispelled when he banished the darling of the FA marketing department, David Beckham, to the international wilderness. Soho Square will sell fewer corporate deals on the presence of David Bentley at No 7, but they respect Capello's game plan.
And he wants some "quality time" with Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney and company. A few hours with the players before friendlies against Switzerland on Wednesday and France next month is useful as an ice-breaking exercise, but the real bonding comes in late May, early June. "There is a lot of work to do," said Capello. When Premier and Champions League races are run, Capello will have 10 days to drill the players into what he wants for the 2010 World Cup qualifying campaign beginning in September with trips to Andorra and Croatia. Capello informed the FA that he wanted a reasonably testing game at Wembley on May 28, still unconfirmed after Scotland withdrew, followed by a training camp and half-decent challenge outside Europe.
Nothing happens now without fitting in with Capello, as his players will discover today when he puts them through an unprecedented double drill, first at London Colney and then Wembley.
Capello had dinner last night with Gerrard, Rooney and the rest at the Grove, England's hotel near Watford, and will this morning outline his expectations on and off the field (deliver and behave), before explaining that the captain's armband is up for grabs with Gerrard expected to 'bags' it against the Swiss. The Liverpool dynamo will certainly enjoy the backing of the England fans, who yesterday voted him their Player of the Year. "It's a fantastic honour, coming from the fans makes it very special to me," said Gerrard, who polled 22 per cent of the vote despite rarely impressing for England in 2007, even missing a crucial chance against Russia in Moscow. Micah Richards came second.
"There were a number of players who did really well last year: Gareth Barry came back into the team and had some great games, and Micah Richards was really consistent for someone so young particularly playing in defence," added Gerrard.
English obsession over who is captain has surprised Capello, who comes from Italy, where they tend to hand the armband to the man with the most caps. "I plan to name a captain for the Switzerland game on Tuesday, but I don't expect to appoint a permanent captain until we start the qualifying games," said Capello. "I want to work closely with the players before deciding on this."
John Terry, currently injured, is favourite to retain the armband in the long run but three other senior players have privately confided their ambition to captain the side. As well as the honour, players (and their agents) are very aware of the sizeable commercial benefits running into six figures of being England captain. Rio Ferdinand and Owen Hargreaves have been tipped as potential long-term captains, along with Terry and Gerrard. Peter Crouch, Gerrard's Liverpool team-mate, voiced the "excitement" of all the players last night. "It's a new manager, a new era," said Crouch. "We all know his track record is fantastic and we're all looking forward to working with him."
For all Crouch's upbeat sentiments, a feeling of uncertainty sweeps through the dressing room, as the inscrutable Capello has been keeping them all on their toes. They all know he is ruthless, a streak he displayed over the weekend by standing down five members of his provisional 30-man squad: Michael Carrick, Curtis Davies, Stewart Downing, Nicky Shorey and Glen Johnson. Emile Heskey and Ledley King pulled out injured, and Jermain Defoe last night replaced Aston Villa's electric striking talent, Gabriel Agbonlahor, who has a hamstring strain. Capello, the Iron Duke, will take it in his stride.
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2008, 12:00:34 AM »
Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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when will we be taking seriously  >:(

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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2008, 04:52:40 AM »
Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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when will we be taking seriously  >:(

Like they forget the World Cup already or wha?  >:( They wasn't saying "unthreatening opposition" after dat game tho. Humph!

On another note, why de fack they keep having important games in the middle of my exam period?! Why dis game cyah be later in June? Like de end of June? Then I can time my holiday to suit.  ;D
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2008, 05:14:22 AM »
Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2008, 05:28:35 AM »
I guess the choice of words was poor, but look at it this way. T&T were chosen above Australia, USA and Mexico, so at least be proud of that.

The timing is probably to coincide with the 2008 Euros (although I haven't checked the dates.)  At least Warners influence will bring a good match and the FA are insisting that the Trini players get paid!

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2008, 05:50:20 AM »
I guess the choice of words was poor, but look at it this way. T&T were chosen above Australia, USA and Mexico, so at least be proud of that.

The timing is probably to coincide with the 2008 Euros (although I haven't checked the dates.)  At least Warners influence will bring a good match and the FA are insisting that the Trini players get paid!
lets hope is some respectable money...not a mere pittance...let Jackula accustom to giving
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FA hint: 'No apology, no Caribbean friendly'
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2008, 06:33:38 AM »
The Football Association will ask FIFA vice-president Jack Warner to retract his controversial comments about English football before agreeing to an England friendly with Trinidad and Tobago.

Warner, the head of Caribbean football, wants England to play a friendly in June as part of the Trinidad and Tobago FA's centenary celebrations this year.

The FA are receptive to the idea - it would also help the bid for the 2018 World Cup as Warner, who is special adviser to the Trinidad and Tobago FA, is one of the most influential figures in FIFA.

But they want him to retract his remark last year that 'England has never had any impact on world football, England at no time has had the love and support of Europe; for Europe, England is an irritant'.

It is understood playing in Trinidad would fit in with Fabio Capello's plans of a match against a testing opponent at the end of May followed by a trip abroad where the England manager can spend some time with the players in a low-pressure environment.

The FA will also been keen for ongoing legal dispute between Trinidad and Tobago players and the country's federation over payments for the 2006 World Cup to be resolved.



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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner.
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2008, 07:58:57 AM »
As I say before...People have to understand how ruthless this man have to be to reach the FIFA vice president...Just imagine this man have the English FA asking him to retract statements...What goes around comes around....so we'll see

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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2008, 11:20:10 AM »
Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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Would'nt worry too much bout that comment.....it is England we talking about after all. England is dismissive of most nations unless they have been beaten by said country at least twice in recent memory. Just ask Croatia and Russia about comments made before the Euro qualifiers. This is strangely why England has always been dismissive of Mexico when playing them yet has a growning respect of the US team when historically Mexico has always been a better side than the US. Mexico aint ever beaten them while the US has (twice).

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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2008, 11:57:38 AM »
Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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FA hint: 'No apology, no Caribbean friendly'
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2008, 12:33:32 PM »
ESPNSoccernet

FA hint: 'No apology, no Caribbean friendly'

The Football Association will ask FIFA vice-president Jack Warner to retract his controversial comments about English football before agreeing to an England friendly with Trinidad and Tobago.
Warner, the head of Caribbean football, wants England to play a friendly in June as part of the Trinidad and Tobago FA's centenary celebrations this year.

The FA are receptive to the idea - it would also help the bid for the 2018 World Cup as Warner, who is special adviser to the Trinidad and Tobago FA, is one of the most influential figures in FIFA.
But they want him to retract his remark last year that 'England has never had any impact on world football, England at no time has had the love and support of Europe; for Europe, England is an irritant'.
It is understood playing in Trinidad would fit in with Fabio Capello's plans of a match against a testing opponent at the end of May followed by a trip abroad where the England manager can spend some time with the players in a low-pressure environment.

The FA will also been keen for ongoing legal dispute between Trinidad and Tobago players and the country's federation over payments for the 2006 World Cup to be resolved.

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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2008, 01:00:51 PM »

Dat go be the hollowest apology ever. 

He talk the TRUTH and dey hadda pass a friendly for him to do what?  Dat apology go be a joke ....the FA doh find it looking kinda dotish making him apologize when we all go know he really eh mean what he saying?

Best part of this whole thing is the lil bit about fixing the issues with the players....is next month the arbitors ruling?  No settlement before?

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Re: FA hint: 'No apology, no Caribbean friendly'
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2008, 01:06:33 PM »
ESPNSoccernet

FA hint: 'No apology, no Caribbean friendly'

The Football Association will ask FIFA vice-president Jack Warner to retract his controversial comments about English football before agreeing to an England friendly with Trinidad and Tobago.
Warner, the head of Caribbean football, wants England to play a friendly in June as part of the Trinidad and Tobago FA's centenary celebrations this year.

The FA are receptive to the idea - it would also help the bid for the 2018 World Cup as Warner, who is special adviser to the Trinidad and Tobago FA, is one of the most influential figures in FIFA.
But they want him to retract his remark last year that 'England has never had any impact on world football, England at no time has had the love and support of Europe; for Europe, England is an irritant'.
It is understood playing in Trinidad would fit in with Fabio Capello's plans of a match against a testing opponent at the end of May followed by a trip abroad where the England manager can spend some time with the players in a low-pressure environment.

The FA will also been keen for ongoing legal dispute between Trinidad and Tobago players and the country's federation over payments for the 2006 World Cup to be resolved.


well at least it bringing the payments issue to our players known some more internationaly
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2008, 01:19:46 PM »
Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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when will we be taking seriously  >:(

Like they forget the World Cup already or wha?  >:( They wasn't saying "unthreatening opposition" after dat game tho. Humph!

On another note, why de fack they keep having important games in the middle of my exam period?! Why dis game cyah be later in June? Like de end of June? Then I can time my holiday to suit.  ;D

The bloody game is on the same day as my MBA marketing exam. DAMN IT  >:(   >:(

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Re: FA hint: 'No apology, no Caribbean friendly'
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2008, 01:32:31 PM »
ESPNSoccernet

FA hint: 'No apology, no Caribbean friendly'

The Football Association will ask FIFA vice-president Jack Warner to retract his controversial comments about English football before agreeing to an England friendly with Trinidad and Tobago.
Warner, the head of Caribbean football, wants England to play a friendly in June as part of the Trinidad and Tobago FA's centenary celebrations this year.

The FA are receptive to the idea - it would also help the bid for the 2018 World Cup as Warner, who is special adviser to the Trinidad and Tobago FA, is one of the most influential figures in FIFA.
But they want him to retract his remark last year that 'England has never had any impact on world football, England at no time has had the love and support of Europe; for Europe, England is an irritant'.
It is understood playing in Trinidad would fit in with Fabio Capello's plans of a match against a testing opponent at the end of May followed by a trip abroad where the England manager can spend some time with the players in a low-pressure environment.

The FA will also been keen for ongoing legal dispute between Trinidad and Tobago players and the country's federation over payments for the 2006 World Cup to be resolved.


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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2008, 07:05:59 PM »
Dat game eh happenin apology or no apology
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2008, 07:22:32 PM »
Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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when will we be taking seriously  >:(

Would'nt worry too much bout that comment.....it is England we talking about after all. England is dismissive of most nations unless they have been beaten by said country at least twice in recent memory. Just ask Croatia and Russia about comments made before the Euro qualifiers. This is strangely why England has always been dismissive of Mexico when playing them yet has a growning respect of the US team when historically Mexico has always been a better side than the US. Mexico aint ever beaten them while the US has (twice).

Yuh ent see allyuh men is kicks, lol...we barely draw wid friggin Puerto Rico...ent play nobody of note in almost 9 months...local administration in a mess, team organization in a mess...


...and because they characterize Trinidad as relatively unthreatening some ah allyuh taking offense??  steups

we lucky fukkin Puerto Rico ent cut we ass.

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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2008, 07:49:38 PM »
we lucky f**kkin Puerto Rico ent cut we ass.
you HAVE to agree that the fellas showed character by coming back to tie
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2008, 08:06:24 PM »
Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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When we finally beat somebody and stop hanging on to one goalless draw with Sweden as a claim to football respect....
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2008, 08:26:04 PM »
We draw wit a baseball and basketball nation and we want 2 bb taken seriously?
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2008, 09:56:34 PM »
Until we start beating teams consistently I doh know why men does get offended when other people say we are easy opposition. Yeah we draw with Sweden but that was  a dfferent team with a different coach. Reality is we draw with Puerto Rico. Our under 23 side should be waxing PR.

There is plenty work for the team to do and not much time. I wish the team the best and hope the younger players will get international exposure when the foreign based away. This coach sound like he actually willing to develop players. If that is so we headed in the right direction. Hopefully if we get England by that time we would be clciking.



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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2008, 11:23:04 PM »
Haha jack should diss Holland after ,we getting famous ,bad press better than no press atall .

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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2008, 07:31:35 AM »
Dey goh get de apology since, yesterday was yesterday and today is today.....  ::)

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Just say no to Mr Warner
By: Martin Samuel (Times)




Under Capello's iron-fist rule, FA mandarins knew the match must fit in with the Italian's vision of how England can best prepare for the 2010 World Cup. Offered a range of overseas friendlies in June, including Australia, Mexico, the United States and T and T, Capello approved the Caribbean option because it suited his desire for a five-day training camp with a game against relatively unthreatening opposition.

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Would'nt worry too much bout that comment.....it is England we talking about after all. England is dismissive of most nations unless they have been beaten by said country at least twice in recent memory. Just ask Croatia and Russia about comments made before the Euro qualifiers. This is strangely why England has always been dismissive of Mexico when playing them yet has a growning respect of the US team when historically Mexico has always been a better side than the US. Mexico aint ever beaten them while the US has (twice).

Yuh ent see allyuh men is kicks, lol...we barely draw wid friggin Puerto Rico...ent play nobody of note in almost 9 months...local administration in a mess, team organization in a mess...


...and because they characterize Trinidad as relatively unthreatening some ah allyuh taking offense??  steups

we lucky f**kkin Puerto Rico ent cut we ass.

True dat Bake! and  to make matters worse it was a come from behind draw. We need to be very afraid if we have to face England in June, we are not the team we were in 2006 so all the chest beating that we go cut they arse needs to be tempered with the reality that without quality players, preparation and winning attitude, be prepared for England to  ress it on we!

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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2008, 11:33:54 AM »
Jack like to be wrong and strong...i doh see any apology coming unless the FA grease his palms quietly..or he get to meet the queen or something so.
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2008, 11:36:07 AM »
Jack like to be wrong and strong...i doh see any apology coming unless the FA grease his palms quietly..or he get to meet the queen or something so.
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he go tell dem to make de cheque out to Austin Warner ;)
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2008, 12:18:40 PM »
didn't have time to read all the articles

but on fox football phoen in the man said it clearly, jack warner has 3 votes in FIFA so with england looking fro a bid jack is strongarming oppl as usual, he even recalled when scotland played tnt jackl told them to pay HIM, some nonsense about the players wouldnt get paid properly if it was given to the TTFF.

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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2008, 03:18:43 PM »
True dat Bake! and  to make matters worse it was a come from behind draw. We need to be very afraid if we have to face England in June, we are not the team we were in 2006 so all the chest beating that we go cut they arse needs to be tempered with the reality that without quality players, preparation and winning attitude, be prepared for England to  ress it on we!

I root as hard fuh this team as anyone, but I like to be realistic too man.  I find if man ent bussin up dese youths and calling dem 'shithongs'...is because they acting like we have a team of world-beaters.  I agree with you that the end result might not be pretty...England has a lot to prove and may well have the Germany result in the back of their minds...they may be properly motivated to put us 'back in our place' as they see it...meaning, I'm sure they think of themselves as better than a 2-0 result against us and would be looking to prove that with their play.

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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2008, 03:25:58 PM »
When is our arbitrator's ruling? I want all players available
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Re: Just say no to Mr Warner. (FA-T&T friendly)
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2008, 12:25:11 PM »
Lord this hit every small town paper in the UK:

Warner holds out olive branch

17:55 - 07 February 2008

FIFA vice-president Jack Warner has paved the way for a friendly between England and Trinidad & Tobago in June by hailing the FA as the most respected association in the world.

The FA had wanted Warner, the head of Caribbean football, to redress comments he made last year about England being "an irritant" to Europe and having had no impact in world football.

Warner, who insisted the FA had never asked him personally for any retraction, said: "I am certain that nobody of relevance within the FA believes that Jack Warner is England's enemy. The opposite is true."

He added: "What I did say in a BBC radio interview last year, was nothing but the reproduction of opinions and background whispers offered by false friends in Europe.

"Numerous European football grandees have often made derogatory remarks about England in the past. What I did was merely to state them and share them with the public at large.

"Unfortunately, it was subsequently construed to be 'Jack Warner's opinion', simply because it was I who had voiced what others - behind England's back - were and are saying in Europe.

"I emphasise 'Europe' because the FA, under Geoff Thompson's leadership, and ever since [the failed bid for the World Cup in] 2006 has changed course in international terms and stepped up its international development programme to a level unmatched by any other FA in the world.

"The FA today is probably the most respected football association in Europe in the eyes of virtually all countries within CONCACAF, Asia, Africa and South America."

The FA are keen to hold the friendly in the West Indies on June 1 because Warner, the president of the CONCACAF federation, is a hugely-important FIFA figure in terms of the 2018 World Cup bid.

The match would also be part of the centenary celebrations of the country's football federation (T&TFF), and would fit in with England manager Fabio Capello's plans.

 

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