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Bulls acquire Gooden and Hughes in three-team trade
« on: February 21, 2008, 06:54:50 PM »
Wallace and Smith sent to Cleveland, while Griffin heads to Seattle as part of deal
Bulls acquire Gooden and Hughes in three-team trade


 Hughes, 29, brings career averages of 15.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg and 3.3 apg to the Bulls, while Gooden, 26, owns career averages of 12.0 ppg and 7.0 rpg. 
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February 21, 2008 – The Chicago Bulls announced today that the team has acquired forward/center Drew Gooden, guard Larry Hughes, guard Shannon Brown and forward Cedric Simmons from the Cleveland Cavaliers in exchange for Joe Smith, Ben Wallace and Chicago’s 2009 regular second round draft pick.
Also as part of the three-team trade, Chicago has sent guard/forward Adrian Griffin to Seattle. Chicago’s roster now stands at 15.

“We are all very much aware that this season has not advanced as we anticipated. With that said, we will continue to evaluate and reshape our roster where necessary, until we can get to where we want to be as a team,” said John Paxson, Bulls Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations.

“This particular trade gives us the opportunity to solidify a couple of positions, as well as provide our team with some much needed scoring," he added. "The continued development of our young, big front line is crucial and this move today will allow them to gain valuable minutes on the court, which in turn will allow us to make the key decisions we are going to be faced with in the very near future.”

Gooden (6-10, 250) is averaging 11.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg and 30.7 mpg in 51 games on the year. He has started every game that he has appeared in and has posted 16 double-doubles this season. In his sixth season out of Kansas, he has appeared in 441 contests and owns career averages of 12.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 1.1 apg, 28.4 mpg and has shot .471 from the field and .716 from the line. He also has appeared in 40 career playoff games and has posted averages of 10.8 ppg and 8.7 rpg in 28.0 mpg. Selected in the first round (fourth overall) of NBA Draft 2002 by the Memphis Grizzlies, the 26-year old Gooden has also played for the Grizzlies and the Orlando Magic.

Hughes (6-5, 185) has appeared in 40 games this year (32 starts) and has averaged 12.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.4 apg and 1.50 spg in 30.3 mpg. After one season at St. Louis University, he was drafted in the first round (eighth overall) of NBA Draft 1998 by the Philadelphia 76ers. During his career he has played in 590 games and has averaged 15.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.3 apg and 1.57 spg in 31.9 mpg and shot .410 from the field, including .296 from behind the arc, and .750 from the line. In 45 playoff games, he has totaled 13.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.0 apg and 1.78 spg in 35.0 mpg. Hughes, 29, has also played with the Philadelphia 76ers, the Golden State Warriors and the Washington Wizards. In recognition of his defensive efforts during the 2004-05 campaign he was named to the NBA’s All-Defensive First Team.

Brown (6-4, 211) is in his second year in the NBA. This season he has appeared in 15 games (four starts) and has averaged 7.0 ppg, 1.2 rpg and 1.1 apg in 14.5 mpg. In 38 career games (nine starts), he has posted averages of 4.7 ppg and 1.0 rpg in 11.1 mpg. The 22-year old product of Proviso East played three seasons at Michigan State, before he was selected in the first round (25th overall) of NBA Draft 2006.

Simmons (6-9, 235) is also in his second season in the NBA. He has appeared in seven games with Cleveland this year and has averaged 0.6 ppg and 2.1 rpg in 9.7 mpg. He spent his rookie year with New Orleans/Oklahoma City, and appeared in 43 games (four starts), where he averaged 2.9 ppg and 2.5 rpg in 12.4 mpg. Simmons, 23, was selected in the first round (15th overall) of NBA Draft 2006 by the Hornets after playing two seasons at North Carolina State.


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Re: Bulls acquire Gooden and Hughes in three-team trade
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 07:12:32 PM »
Let's dig into the latest — and last — flurry of trades.

Cleveland-Chicago-SeattleCavaliers get: Ben Wallace, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West, Joe Smith, future Chicago second-round pick
Bulls get: Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Shannon Brown, Cedric Simmons
Sonics get: Ira Newble, Adrian Griffin, Donyell Marshall

For the Cavs, is swallowing Ben Wallace's huge contract worth the addition of Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West and Joe Smith?

Wondrous Wally can shoot with anybody, has a limited handle, and an unlimited ego. He can establish and maintain proper defensive positioning, but he's too slow off the mark to be considered an adequate defender. Delonte West has guts and a nifty shot, but is too slow to play point guard at a playoff-caliber level.


Together, Szczerbiak and West lack the speed and quickness of the departed Larry Hughes and Shannon Brown, but are much superior shooters. In any event, the Cavs have done nothing to resolve their point-guard dilemma.

Smith is a pro — curtail his minutes and he can score in the low post, grab unexpected rebounds, and always be in the right place at the right time. If he can stay healthy, he's a modest upgrade over Drew Gooden.

Ben Wallace is ready for the glue factory. Will he be content to back up Zydrunas Ilgauskas? And when Anderson Varejao returns, who sits: The younger, quicker, much more active Varejao? Or the rapidly shrinking Ben?

Overall, the Cavs got appreciably slower and their perimeter defense got worse. Except for an occasional foray by LBJ, forget about fast breaks and early offense. From now on, it's half-court basketball — and with Wallace on the floor, look for LBJ to be two-timed on his every touch.

Cleveland's grade: C+

Chicago added several interesting players without yielding any of their core guys.

Gooden is an average power forward, getting by on effort more than on skill. Look for him to split time with Tyrus Thomas and provide a modicum of post-up scoring.

Hughes is best in a wide-open game where he can either pull or get to the hole, but do the Bulls have enough defense and board-power to get out and go? Probably not. Still, how soon before Hughes takes over Kirk Hinrich's PT?

Brown is another runner, an improving shooter, and a vastly underrated player. If he buckles down and works harder on his game than he has thus far, Brown could be the sleeper in the deal.

Simmons' main task will be to keep the last seat on the bench warm.

Now comes the real test for the Bulls. How well can they compete with Joakim Noah and Aaron Gray manning the middle? But hey, this tandem can't be any worse than Wallace was all by himself. At least they'll hustle on every play.

All at once, the Bulls are younger, quicker and more motivated. Now if only Hinrich, Ben Gordon, and Luol Deng could get their heads straight, then perhaps the Bulls might have a viable future.

Chicago's grade: B

Seattle continues to pay more attention to its crystal ball than to the next game on its schedule. Ira Newble and Adrian Griffin will be gone and forgotten by the Fourth of July. Only the sad remnants of Donyell Marshall's once potent game will stick around.

At least Sam Presti continues to be true to his commitment of totally rebuilding the roster he inherited. Once all the expiring contracts have expired, the Sonics will have enough cap-free bucks to buy Donald Trump.

Seattle's grade: B+


New Orleans-HoustonHornets get: Mike James and Bonzi Wells
Rockets get: Bobby Jackson

Bonzi Wells is a dynamic baseline scorer. He can also rebound and play defense, but only when the spirit moves him.


 
In a perfect world, Wells would be happy to fit the role he's most suited for — being a scorer off the bench. Too bad Wells yearns to not only start, but be the focus of the offense. If he doesn't get the playing time and the shots he thinks he deserves, then Wells can be — and has been — a totally disruptive force. Perhaps that's why Wells has played for five different teams over the past five seasons.

It should also be noted that Wells had his most productive seasons under Rick Adelman in Portland. If Adelman failed to get the best out of Wells in Houston, then Bonzi's career just may have progressed past the point of no return. But if Byron Scott can somehow make Wells happy, then the Hornets have themselves a potent scorer.

Mike James is a shoot-first point guard who possesses plenty of firepower. His 3-point accuracy demonstrates his consistency, but he has a penchant for looking for the chance to jack up 3-balls before looking for anything else. If his assist totals are admirable, the truth is that most of them come on drives-and-dishes and he's reluctant to initiate offensive sets with passes from the perimeter.

Also, despite being able to score points in bunches, the fact that the Hornets will be his eighth team in the last six seasons says volumes about his selfish attitude. As is the case with Wells, if James accepts his backup role, then New Orleans comes out way ahead in this transaction.

Wells and James make the Hornets younger and also pump up their offense. However, since the Hornets currently sport the best record in the West, why would they risk disrupting their chemistry?

While the possible rewards may be grand, the Hornets have put their season in jeopardy.

New Orleans' grade: Anywhere from an A to F, but most likely a C

For the Rockets, Bobby Jackson represents a welcome degree of stability. As he rapidly approaches his 35th birthday, Jackson's speed, defense, and ability to stay healthy have all diminished. And like Mike James, he's a shoot-first point guard. Even so, Jackson is reliable and goes about his business with diligence and with no complaints.

With Wells and James gone, the Rockets have more available daylight to shine on Luther Head, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks.

Houston's grade: C+


San Antonio-SeattleSan Antonio gets: Kurt Thomas
Seattle gets: Brent Barry, Francisco Elson, 2009 first-round pick

Getting Kurt Thomas is a bonanza for the Spurs. Even at the advanced age of 35, he still has enough left of exactly what the Spurs need. He's a rugged big man with great hands, a deadly mid-range jumper, veteran smarts, and the ability to play exceptional low-post defense. Thomas' presence will relieve Tim Duncan of some disadvantageous mano-a-mano defensive matchups while permitting TD to do more of what he does best: provide defensive help from the weak side.

 
Kurt Thomas gives the Spurs another vital interior defender and rebounder. (Andrew D. Bernstein / Getty Images)

Losing Brent Barry is painless because his 36-year-old body is breaking down and Ime Udoka is younger, paid less, plays defense, can hit treys, and is primed and ready for big-time minutes.

Francisco Elson is a runner and a mid-range shooter whose finesse game never really fit into the Spurs' scheme of things.

Unless the Spurs unexpectedly fall on hard times, their top pick in the 2009 draft won't be particularly valuable.

San Antonio's grade: A+

Seattle, on the other hand, was more interested in the future than the present. Barry and Elson, along with their respective contracts, will be cut loose as soon as the law allows. The addition of still another first-round pick, coupled with the creation of ample salary cap space, should make the Sonics important players in both the trading and free agent markets during the off-season.

It's hard to ignore the possibility of some Ainge-McHale-style hanky-panky between Sam Presti and his old team. Perhaps Seattle could have gotten more for Thomas. In any case, they got the chips they were seeking.

Seattle's grade: another B+
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Re: Bulls acquire Gooden and Hughes in three-team trade
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 11:59:28 AM »
Cleveland will be the Beast of the East by seasons end
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Re: Bulls acquire Gooden and Hughes in three-team trade
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2008, 12:06:43 PM »
Cleveland will be the Beast of the East by seasons end
i still feel boston winnin de east.
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Re: Bulls acquire Gooden and Hughes in three-team trade
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 03:19:37 AM »
I dunno what site you got the breakdown from...but it's madness to suggest that Delonte West is too slow so play point on a playoff level team.  I'm extremely surprised that Seattle traded him and decided to hand the keys over to an inconsistent Earl Watson.  But then again, Watson may not be around come October so maybe they know what they're doing. 

The only thing bigger than Wally Szczerbiak's defensive liabilities is his ego.  Wally is a superstar who's had the misfortune of being saddled with bad teammates...or so he'd have you believe.  You've been traded three times in the last 9 months Wally...aside from the NBA logo on your socks, what's the one constant?


Larry Hughes is not a point guard, he wasn't one at St. Louis, wasn't one at Golden State, wasn't one in Washington (where he never should have left) and wasn't one in Cleveland.  Can't tell him that though, to hear him tell it he's the second coming of Dennis Johnson.  Even so, Kirk Heinrich might be coming off the bench now...which isn't a bad thing, I think he's a terrific point, just not as explosive as Hughes.

Joe Smith is an offensive upgrade over Drew Gooden, but I'm not sure if he can replace Gooden's hustle, defense and rebounding at this stage of his career.  That man was a beast in college, and the Timberwolves franchise still hasn't recovered from the penalties they paid for trying to hand him cash under the table when his first contract expired in Golden State.

I think Ben like Shaq in Phoenix will under go a rennaissance and be a sound addition to the franchise.  People on his ass for being a bust in Chicago...but I imagine it made for an unhappy environment when the coach and management getting on your ass for among all other things a facking head band.  This is the same Bulls after all who told Jamal Crawford before they drafted him out of Michigan that he'd have to cut off his braids if he wanted to play for the franchise.


 

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