John Terry's comments on Kenwynne

[Cartman]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

[WestCoast]

Thanks Cartman
I appreciate your posts

[kicker]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

[capodetutticapi]

these are only words we want production.

[Dinner Mints]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

[palos]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

Watch dat game again.

[Dinner Mints]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

Watch dat game again.

Ah wrong? Ah thought it was 4-5-1 with Stern up front alone. Then at some point they bring in Cornell.

Or yuh mean ah wrong about him not coming up too much against Terry?

[kicker]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

Watch dat game again.

Ah wrong? Ah thought it was 4-5-1 with Stern up front alone. Then at some point they bring in Cornell.

Or yuh mean ah wrong about him not coming up too much against Terry?

I think he meant that you were wrong about them not really coming up against eachother..... I can remember distinctly one instance in particular when Terry had to make a sliding tackle to prevent Kenwyne cutting inside the box...other than that, who knows- I'm pretty sure they had some run-ins, nevertheless...my point was that they did play against eachother more than twice (regardless of how often they had direct contact on the field)....but I'm pretty sure that Terry was just referring to their EPL clashes... was just making a passing comment- doh study it.

[Filho]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

Watch dat game again.

Ah wrong? Ah thought it was 4-5-1 with Stern up front alone. Then at some point they bring in Cornell.

Or yuh mean ah wrong about him not coming up too much against Terry?

Nah..We played a 4-4-2 against England and Paraguay. We only played 4-5-1 vs Sweden. KJ played as a central striker alongside Stern and I will go so far as to say, he  never really set foot on the right. In fact, when Cornell came on, he used the flanks more and his best plays came from wide positions. KJ played the same role as he did against bahrain..or as he does now for Sunderland

[kicker]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

Watch dat game again.

Ah wrong? Ah thought it was 4-5-1 with Stern up front alone. Then at some point they bring in Cornell.

Or yuh mean ah wrong about him not coming up too much against Terry?

Nah..We played a 4-4-2 against England and Paraguay. We only played 4-5-1 vs Sweden. KJ played as a central striker alongside Stern and I will go so far as to say, he  never really set foot on the right. In fact, when Cornell came on, he used the flanks more and his best plays came from wide positions. KJ played the same role as he did against bahrain..or as he does now for Sunderland

You sure? .... hmmmmmm.... guess i doh remember clearly. 

[Filho]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

Watch dat game again.

Ah wrong? Ah thought it was 4-5-1 with Stern up front alone. Then at some point they bring in Cornell.

Or yuh mean ah wrong about him not coming up too much against Terry?

Nah..We played a 4-4-2 against England and Paraguay. We only played 4-5-1 vs Sweden. KJ played as a central striker alongside Stern and I will go so far as to say, he  never really set foot on the right. In fact, when Cornell came on, he used the flanks more and his best plays came from wide positions. KJ played the same role as he did against bahrain..or as he does now for Sunderland

You sure? .... hmmmmmm.... guess i doh remember clearly. 

Run de tape...

[FF]

To me kenwyne was up front...

but for the goal kicks he would go and station on the right side to take advantage of the mismatch with Ashley Cole...

When Cornell come on he was definitely on the right from then on

[Dinner Mints]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

Watch dat game again.

Ah wrong? Ah thought it was 4-5-1 with Stern up front alone. Then at some point they bring in Cornell.

Or yuh mean ah wrong about him not coming up too much against Terry?

Nah..We played a 4-4-2 against England and Paraguay. We only played 4-5-1 vs Sweden. KJ played as a central striker alongside Stern and I will go so far as to say, he  never really set foot on the right. In fact, when Cornell came on, he used the flanks more and his best plays came from wide positions. KJ played the same role as he did against bahrain..or as he does now for Sunderland

You sure? .... hmmmmmm.... guess i doh remember clearly. 

You and me both. Now I confuse bout who start on the right wing now 'cause it wasn't Carlos.

[Mango Chow!]

Fellas.....John Terry doh hafta have played against him "man-to-man" to know how effective he is as a player. The whole ah Chelsea know how good de man is, dize why all ah dem was talkin' 'bout 'im afta de game. 

[palos]

There were still encouraging words from Terry, who enthused: "He was fantastic and I have played against him twice now. He's a very good player, probably the best in the air in the entire Premier League. He really is that good. All the lads are talking about him afterwards. If Sunderland can stay up and keep hold of him, they have a fantastic chance of kicking on."


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Near the bottom

3 times including W.C. '06

He was on the right wing for that game though. So he ain't had too much dealings with Terry.

Watch dat game again.

Ah wrong? Ah thought it was 4-5-1 with Stern up front alone. Then at some point they bring in Cornell.

Or yuh mean ah wrong about him not coming up too much against Terry?

From my recollection, Kenwyne partnered Stern, however......Stern played STRIKER while Kenwyne played FORWARD which meant he had a bit more licence to roam.

As for Terry encountering Kenwyne....it happened throughout the game.  Kenwyne fouled Terry on a few occasions...hustle plays....and Terry took offence to it.  Basically...he was troubling them with his pace and power.  In the 2nd half, Birchall (yes..Birchall who people say cyah pass) played a wonderful thru ball in the area fuh Kenwyne and only a last ditch tackle from Terry prevented Kenwyne from having a good shot on goal.

The ONLY starter that gave the English defence any kind of pressure or harrasment in that game was Kenwyne (and when Cornell came on late as well)

[kicker]

From my recollection, Kenwyne partnered Stern, however......Stern played STRIKER while Kenwyne played FORWARD which meant he had a bit more licence to roam.

As for Terry encountering Kenwyne....it happened throughout the game.  Kenwyne fouled Terry on a few occasions...hustle plays....and Terry took offence to it.  Basically...he was troubling them with his pace and power.  In the 2nd half, Birchall (yes..Birchall who people say cyah pass) played a wonderful thru ball in the area fuh Kenwyne and only a last ditch tackle from Terry prevented Kenwyne from having a good shot on goal.

The ONLY starter that gave the English defence any kind of pressure or harrasment in that game was Kenwyne (and when Cornell came on late as well)

Yup, that's the one instance that stood out in my mind....

[dcs]

All dat talk not helping Sunderland stay up.
They real scrunting for goals.  At least one header he should have scored but hit it too sorf.

Take a page out of Keane book and start to play bad mind KJ....yuh see how Terry is hook man arm so that the ref cah see.....yuh hadda play like yuh life depended on scoring a goal.  Use your size and rough up dem fellahs...I find he taking it too easy on dem playing nice....give some men a sore shoulder or a buss head like Dog   

Doh listen to all that empty talk...nobody friad a striker who not scoring...is empty flattery dem glad to praise u after u eh score against them.

[kev]

Patronising garbage

Wouldn't of said anything if he had of scored one of the sitters he missed

[KND2]

Jones is not a good finisher so he is always going to struggle to get goals.

He has the zess, the fight and the physical attributes but when it comes time to put it in the net it does not come natural to him.

The fact is he spent most of his young  life as defense and midfield.
he needs to learn how to finish.

they should hire a finishing coach and if he work on it for the next 2 years or so he would eventually develop into a goal scoring forward.

Jones scoring between 10-15 goals in a season nothing more.

If he learn to finish this can bump up to 20-25 but it will take time and work.


The best thing suderland can do is buy a finisher and let jones done the busy work until he develops.


Like everything thing else it takes time.


Look at any of the games jones play for Trinidad Bahrain in Bahrain for example he had many chances could not hit the target.


if he could finish one of those 2 headers would be in the back of the net and Sunderland would be thinking he is a star.


With the right work Jones would be ready in 2 years, I hope keene and them willing to work with him.

for Trinidad sake as well.

[freakazoid]

knd2 ah hear what u say and ah agree to extent but using what u say

i would have to say based on ths season's performance rooney aint  ah natural finisher either


still think jones shoulda score 1 of those headers

and ah still vex with terry 4 clearing john goal off d line in Germany

[Daft Trini]

knd2 ah hear what u say and ah agree to extent but using what u say

i would have to say based on ths season's performance rooney aint  ah natural finisher either


still think jones shoulda score 1 of those headers

and ah still vex with terry 4 clearing john goal off d line in Germany

You still vex... not you alone bredda... Everytime I hear he have back injury, I does say it good fuh he...

[kev]

Jones is not a good finisher so he is always going to struggle to get goals.

He has the zess, the fight and the physical attributes but when it comes time to put it in the net it does not come natural to him.

The fact is he spent most of his young  life as defense and midfield.
he needs to learn how to finish.

they should hire a finishing coach and if he work on it for the next 2 years or so he would eventually develop into a goal scoring forward.

Jones scoring between 10-15 goals in a season nothing more.

If he learn to finish this can bump up to 20-25 but it will take time and work.


The best thing suderland can do is buy a finisher and let jones done the busy work until he develops.


Like everything thing else it takes time.


Look at any of the games jones play for Trinidad Bahrain in Bahrain for example he had many chances could not hit the target.


if he could finish one of those 2 headers would be in the back of the net and Sunderland would be thinking he is a star.


With the right work Jones would be ready in 2 years, I hope keene and them willing to work with him.

for Trinidad sake as well.

Strange to say but he does has an awful lot to learn, running into/creating space, attacking dangerous areas front post back post., composure and finishing I am sure they are working on him, but also need a different range of passing to able him to learn those things.

Strangely enough sunderland did have a similar forward a few years back Marco, who was raw and fast, he was lucky enough to have Eric Gates beside him, who used to tell him where when to run, he was the making of him.

The present club chairman was a good forward and no doubt could teach KJ quite a bit, not being blessed with KJ spring or speed, but was better than him on the above areas.  The problem is it maybe seen as interfering with RK so I doubt it will happen. 

He needs someone to play off him, with him that has natural movement and finishing, its the only real way he is going to learn.

If sunderland don't survive and a silly offer comes in, I wouldn't be that disapointed if the club takes it to be frank, something I probably wouldn't of said a couple of months ago.

[truetrini]

Jones is not a good finisher so he is always going to struggle to get goals.

He has the zess, the fight and the physical attributes but when it comes time to put it in the net it does not come natural to him.

The fact is he spent most of his young  life as defense and midfield.
he needs to learn how to finish.

they should hire a finishing coach and if he work on it for the next 2 years or so he would eventually develop into a goal scoring forward.

Jones scoring between 10-15 goals in a season nothing more.

If he learn to finish this can bump up to 20-25 but it will take time and work.


The best thing suderland can do is buy a finisher and let jones done the busy work until he develops.


Like everything thing else it takes time.


Look at any of the games jones play for Trinidad Bahrain in Bahrain for example he had many chances could not hit the target.


if he could finish one of those 2 headers would be in the back of the net and Sunderland would be thinking he is a star.


With the right work Jones would be ready in 2 years, I hope keene and them willing to work with him.

for Trinidad sake as well.

KND stick tuh d=f**king tiddley winks and jam toti.

what de f**k you know about who is good striker,a nd who is natural finisher.

You remind me ah de english buller who say dat yorke will never be a striker in the English premier league.
History show him (the english buller) to be something round dat comes out of a goat's bamsee...yuh have ah reputation fuh talking shit...yuh sure yuh eh round like pebbles?

Yuh sheep shit

[KND2]

KJ have the rightous man to learn from. Yorke can show him what to do in practice even if he is not playing next to him on the field.

True Trini HYMC

I know everything there is to know about top knotch finishing.

I see it with my own eyes from the best finisher that TnT ever had, Stern John.

Even when stern was 11 years old he was slow and used to fall down all the time, weaky weaky. but even in small goal with the big boys he knew where to stand up and how to pass the ball in the goal.
Them things you cannot teach
and them thing you cannot explain

you have to experience it.


Ask yourself if Jones was not build like a sprinter and had the leap of a high jump champion if he would be on the squad.

Then ask the same question about stern John.

He fast like a snail and have the work rate of  a sunday morning pri-modonna
but even at 31 going on 32 he still slotting them home.

Why?

You have to experience it.

I talking from experience.
you talking up your ass 

[truetrini]

KJ have the rightous man to learn from. Yorke can show him what to do in practice even if he is not playing next to him on the field.

True Trini HYMC

I know everything there is to know about top knotch finishing.

I see it with my own eyes from the best finisher that TnT ever had, Stern John.

Even when stern was 11 years old he was slow and used to fall down all the time, weaky weaky. but even in small goal with the big boys he knew where to stand up and how to pass the ball in the goal.
Them things you cannot teach
and them thing you cannot explain

you have to experience it.


Ask yourself if Jones was not build like a sprinter and had the leap of a high jump champion if he would be on the squad.

Then ask the same question about stern John.

He fast like a snail and have the work rate of  a sunday morning pri-modonna
but even at 31 going on 32 he still slotting them home.

Why?

You have to experience it.

I talking from experience.
you talking up your ass 

I look at ah surgery on TV live..with my own f**king eyes too.  dat eh mean I could go and enhance ah woman tot-tots.

And I have plenty experience with breasticles too.

KND1, KND2 Knd tuh de f**king power x  yuh is ah noted shit talker and fuh dat yuh should get ah damn award...leave de football tuh footballers nah..yuhcould only kick toepee and yuh break yuh toe on ah green breadfruit arready.

steups

stop talking shit nah

[truetrini]

talking from experience eh, since yuh seem tuh like to invoke experience...I experienceing yuh ta-ta years now..and guess what/

yuh still goat mouth yuh still talking shit and yuh still is KND....shit taker par excellence

[Jah Gol]

I happened to watch  the T&T - England game last Friday on DVD. The description palos gave is accurate. He was actually drifting out to the right but it wasn't right wing. There was one play when he ran on to a Birchall pass toward the right touch line and wrestled with Terry to get the ball before it rolled out. Terry used his experience and to be honest never looked disturbed, KJ had to do lot of work to even challenge for the ball so props for him there. Another Birchall pass into the sauce was cleared out by Terry before a stampeding Jones could get on the end of it. 

Most of the long balls aimed at him were met by English defenders (Ferdinand and Terry), which wasn't necessarily his fault. To me Stern looked a lot more comfortable than Jones. Except you won't get Stern to run at nobody.

I think he (Jones) is developing a reputation of being a miserable kind of striker, kinda irritating because he will chase everything and doh give yuh ( a defender) a break. I think It would be better to have a reputation  of a scorer than an eminent threat .

I sure even Jones himself knows that he has A LOT of work to do to become a good striker. Its a pity that he isn't the understudy at Sunderland. That is where Stern might have been useful.

Playing all those games at that level can't do anything but help him mature.

[che]

Jones and Terry did clash in the WC game . right after Terry cleared the ball off the line, KJ fouled him and got a yellow card.

[Jefferz]

nice to hear it, cuz them expert analysts at fox football friday who are PAID to notice these things... didnt seem to.


either way i suppose we all have our opinions... but again... good to hear.

[Bakes]

I coulda swear KND say they need to hire a "fishing coach" yes...I was about to agree, they need something to keep them active in the fast approaching off-season.