Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.

[Organic]

There are several reports of Hunt being discourteous and of bringing a pompous private sector attitude to the Ministry. They are too numerous to reject outright. He is hopeless inelegant in all of his pronouncements as well.   

I support the request for accountability though.

yuh mean effiencey? That ministry liek alot others is run ind e dinasour age? imagine this day and age the minister doesnt have emails getting directly to him instead they have to be fwded to the tech department and then someone has to print it out and carried to him? steups  the ineffiency and well trinidad lackadasical attitude is irksome. And as i keep saying alyuh know i not a fan of the pnm  but allyuh taking ttff propaganda.
 lot of people in the ministry complaining cause de man demanding work done and done properly.  All i hadda say is inna timin. He in charge of the ministry for how loong now?? give him some time. But he wroking with an arhciac system and culture..
My mother works for A ministry and is de worse and de best, worse to get anythign done and best place for a lime on a friday!!!

I understand what you're saying I work in the public service and know how bad it is. What I am talking about is the working relationship he has with various stakeholders.

From various reports in the media they (the sports associations) don't like him. Plain and simple they think is discourteous and condescending. This is what I have heard eh. The "pompous private sector attitude' comment is actually a quote I heard on a radio programme where Hunt was the subject of great criticism. 

I agree with you though, he must be given time to actually judge his performance. 

jah u know why alot of those orgainsations dont liek him. He cause told them get thier selves in gear and he is nto going to continue giving them money if they dont show acoc**tabilty with results in terms of ok how is sports progressing. Which is needed. That is why thye moaning the man want the federations to stopm miliking the goivernment with nuttin to show for it, no real progress..what worng with that. On a personality note i dont knwo if he condesending or pompouus.. but maybe dais what needed because we all know if it was a private or forgien compnay demanded acounatbility they woulda be fornt and center to rpesent it.

[Organic]

AND FOR THE AUTHUNETRINI CHALLENGED>>
gobar MEANS COWSHIT.....steups wikipedia dont have that one???

[Coop's]

I am one who try to be neutral and fair to both sides but if you ask me i'll have to give it to the Hunt,i can't understand the TTFF don't want to attend the meeting but you want all the information(media coverage) that went on there,that can't be right.One thing i can say though is it's nice to see people on here supporting Jack and his boys for once,it's hard to please anybody in this game don't matter what you do your turn coming.

What happen to Fuentes should be expected because he is not just another newsman,he is the TTFF mouthpiece that's why he was targeted,newsmen encounter this kind of abuse all the time,Lasana got his share from Jack at one time,even that English reporter that was investigating the ticket scandal with Jack(Simpaul) came in for some rough handling,i felt if the minister felt uncomfortable with Fuentes in the room he right to ask him to leave.

[Brownsugar]

Lasana got his share from Jack at one time,even that English reporter that was investigating the ticket scandal with Jack(Simpaul) came in for some rough handling,

I hope yuh don't mean that Lasana got what was coming to him because he expose Jackula??  Cuz say what yuh want, if it were not for Lasana, we, de unsuspecting public woulda pay through we nose to go to Germany back in 06

What happen to Fuentes should be expected because he is not just another newsman,he is the TTFF mouthpiece that's why he was targeted,newsmen encounter this kind of abuse all the time.  I felt if the minister felt uncomfortable with Fuentes in the room he right to ask him to leave.

There was an interesting discussion after the Gary and Fuentes phone calls to I95.5 fm this morning, that asked the question when does a journalist who has become the PRO of an organisation (as in Fuentes' case), stop being a journalist and start being a PRO and as such cannot just attend a press conference and not be seen as simply a journalist but a rep of the organisation.

Now, he said that Ms. Nunez stated when he arrived that he was not invited.  So what is the procedure then?  Do you have to be invited to a press conference? Or can you just go as a media person having heard about it?

However Coops based on what I heard on the radio this morning and until more information comes to light,  the Minister and his Coms person handled the whole thing badly and I on Fuentes side....

[KND2]

Bim and Bam

Both TTFF and Hunt are a bunch of idiots

maybe the problem is that we are all Trinidadians 

Let meh sing a Kaiso

They Try manning
They Try panday
same crap

They Try Jack
They Try Camps
Same Crap

They Try Boynes
They Try Hunt
Same Crap

Crick Crack
Like they want to break
Fuentes Back.

[truetrini]

KND you come up with that all by yuhself?

Yuh facking improving man, yuh moving from village idiot to prime A grade beh-beh

steups

[WestCoast]

free up ya self brudda
only a GROWN MAN would answer like that
ya ent like FUBAR try this one then SNAFU

[Bakes]

Fuentes:

The TTFF "chop off" the TD's feet and expect him to "run". That story is yet to be written. Why? Now it's appropriate to invoke his name, when it suits your purpose ent

I glad I not the only one seeing it...

On arrival, Ministry of Sport communications specialist Natasha Nunez expressed her surprise on seeing Fuentes present, saying that no invitation was sent to the TTFF. She was later told by Fuentes that it was only customary that any press conference relating to the TTFF would have the presence of the Federation’s media officer

This Shaun Fuentes is ah backside or what?  They call meeting fuh allyuh and allyuh decide allyuh NOT showing up.  Fine.  They hold press conference and deliberately DID NOT invite allyuh, yet they send you to macco, camera in hand.  Then yuh have the nerve to talk about how de man "seemed lost to such multimedia usage"...throwing word fuh de man on top of referring to him as a "rookie".  Dat is 'journalism' too??

Then de coup de grace...

The former Guardian full time journalist who could also pose as a freelance journalist

...the facker referring to himself in the 3rd person, talking about how he could pose as a freelance journalist, LOL  "Pose" is right...because you eh no blasted journalist...you is Jack and Oliver Camps b!tch...whatever they tell you tuh write yuh will write, yuh spineless hack.

[weary1969]

I tired oh Goddddddd ah tired. I know somebody who wuk wit Hunt in Radicals and did not have a problem with him. I know somebody who wuking with him now in d Ministry and she did not have a problem with him when he first game.

I have not spoken 2 her in a bit but I just tired. Let d Special Adviser just morgage ah next property and continue funding d programme. That is what has been happening let it continue 4 get d gov't

[Bakes]

this debacle encapsulates everything that is wrong with T&T football

it's a dead heat as to who are the biggest bunch of f**kwits, the TTFF or the Sports Ministry

do feel sorry for Shaun Fuentes thou, it sounds like the man is caught between a rock and a hard place

On what basis do you conclude that the Sports Ministry is a "f**kwit" in this instance?

I'm curious to hear your take.

[Bakes]

Are we in Cuba?

Hunt seems irrational and picking which sport to support depending on who he like and who he eh like.

This man acting like Panday when it come to the media...u throw a media person out of a press conference?  TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE....damn gestapo.  U too Nunez u should have advised that clown he was acting inappropriately.

I am pretty sure the TD was involved in the drafting of the budget because I think it was him who was mainly responsible for getting funds in the past for some other key programs from SPORTT.

Doh get it wrong...he eh throw no 'media person'...he throw a TTFF representative.  Some ah allyuh so anti-PNM that any and everything they do wrong.  To the point that allyuh can't see reality before allyuh eyes.

Throw he macco c**t out oui.

[Bakes]

Ok, I know I live on the other side of the world, but I find the posts here amazing.

This site is full of discusions over TTFFs lack of financial control and whispers of money being diverted into peoples pockets. As I recall, TTFF even presented false accounts to the last minister when they tried to sort out the world cup bonuses.

Didn't TTFF say they only got $18 million or something when govt said they got $173 million?

People are dissin the government for asking to see how YOUR money is being spent before thy give out more. Seems to me, this minister should get a medal. He's protecting TAXPAYERS money.

And why should he be nice to Shaun Fuentes? TTFF couldn't be bothered to turn up because they know they can't show their accounts, but instead send their media guy to spy. Well, if Camps wanted to know what the minister was going to say, e should have got his ass down there. As for not having an agenda, Camps is an idiot. If theres no agenda, Camps can refuse to discuss subjects on the grounds he was not prepared. This should have been an expoloratory meeting to discuss a meeting. Hunt says want he needs to see and Camps brings it to the next meeting. Simple. Or should I say, Simpaul?

I have no problem with Mr Fuentes, but I think he was sent there to collect info for Warners propoganda machine.  

Finally, Warner attacked the minister the other day. The gloves are off and Hunt should get tough. Its about time people stopped kissing Jacks ass.

This is just Jack telling Camps to disrespect Hunt. Jack thinks the public will take his side against the nasty minister. And you've fallen for it.

Wake up guys. Hunt may not be the best, but he certainly isn't going to offer Jack an open purse to repay his new mortgage. T&T football has needed accountability and transparency for years. Now its arriving, welcome it. It will clean up the game and drive out the crooks.

Same facking thing I'm saying!!!


I can't believe people in here criticizing the government over this and overlooking the blatant game of smoke and mirrors being perpetrated before their very eyes.

[WestCoast]

Bakes, you on a ROLL today man
you saving me "one set ah posts" with ALL you have mentioned
 

[Bakes]

They were just on I95.5 discussing the issue.  Dale & Toney took the position that Shaun Fuentes is a media person and as such has every right to be at the press conference....

Neil Parsanlal (Information Minister) call in to try to defend the Minister's actions (never mind he eh talk to Hunt on de issue eh) and was trying to make it sound as if the Minister has every right to do what he do since Shaun is employed with the TTFF and not a Media person outright.  Dale tell him he wrong.
(This Neil Parsanlal is ah next one ah watching with one eye open....the official spin doctor for de Gov't.....but then again that is what dey paying him for)...

Then Dale & Toney started discussing why since the story broke last night and into this morning, the Sports Minister (via whatever means or person whether is the Minister himself [hardly likely] or the communications person Ms. Nunez) has not said anything to refute the story so far.

Anywho, dey going to try to get more information on the whole issue from the Sports Ministry's side in the next hour....stay tuned....

Dotish ass Trinidadians again.  "Dale and Toney" apparently doh know their ass from their elbows.  Since Shaun Fuentes is a media person how come we NEVER hear anything even remotely critical of the TTFF?  Why dey eh go ask Shaun Fuentes what that permanent brown stain above his lips is?


God bless de schupid people in my country yes.

[Bakes]

Bakes, you on a ROLL today man
you saving me "one set ah posts" with ALL you have mentioned
 

It too early in this blessed day for me to be working myself up eh...but it's amazing how simplistic some people in Trinidad is.  And then we have the nerve to turn around and wonder why our football is in the state that it is.  Mind you, all of this started over what??  "Accountability", right?  Anybody talking accountability now?  "Dale and Toney" asking anybody anything about accountability??  Shaun Fuentes...de "freelance journalist" calling de radio to demand accountability?  What...he's ah "full-fledged media person" depending on which side ah Jack bed he wake up in de morning...or which color toothbrush he use??  steups


Now all talk of "accountability" get push aside and people up in arms about Gary ("Isaac" to hear Fishs tell it) Hunt and how he rude, and how he's gestapo...and "poor Shaun".  Let poor Shaun haul he mudda c**t if he could still find it.  He in league with de Devil but when it suits his fancy he clip two dollar store wing on he back and acting like ah angel...pissin on these fool and dem head and have dem convinced is rain.

Watch, juss now everybody go fuhget about "accountability".

[WestCoast]

I believe that you put it very eloquently when you said:


it go grind some people arse that I put a link

He in league with de Devil but when it suits his fancy he clip two dollar store wing an he back and acting like ah angel

aye, who writes your stuff

[spideybuff]

This Sports Minister is a kakahole.....

Well that is probably exactly what we need in order to get ANY of the sport administrations doing something right. All they do is sit in the office and steal money that should be going to the athletes...all of them! And then argue for more money and how they not getting government support.

Every administration takes whatever money the governement gives them and pays their salary, their plane tickets and their accommodation before they even look at anything to do with the sports under their control.

So if he is kakahole, especiallly to Jack and them, i have no problem with that if we see results once people do as he request

[Organic]

Well as i said early this morning peopel letting partisan politics affetc thier answrs..
one minute TTFF IS de worse next cause pnm goverment member in volved ttff become......
i do not like the pnm goverment it eh no scerect but i know they have some good people and i think hunt is one. I maybe proven worng but i eh think so. time will tell
but all dat bullshit about u cyah come but i go send a media officer assness

**edit
i glad hunt didnt get into a shouting match wiht jack...wiht the last bit of drivel he came up with. The man actually is involved in sports actively so he should know a bit about the problems facing the area. he is not just an unacquainted administrator  as so often happens.

[spideybuff]

And Fuentes is not media. If you go to any organisation they have PR or marketing department who issues press releases for the company, that is what Fuentes is.As far as i know, they just can't walk in any press conference without being invited. I can's see BPTT PR officer walking into a Petrotrin news conference just to...so the Minister was within his rights eh ppl.

I really doh understand why people on this site still trying to find ways to defend Jack.
Nothing! Nothing the man ever does is above board...get that through allyuh head and we could start fighting back once u recognise the problem. Is like being an alcoholic...we can't move forward if you still in denial. Just accept that Jack is always trying to get away with something, and we could work with that.


"The Enemy of my enemy is my friend"
"If you have to choose, choose the lesser of two evils."

[Bakes]

This Sports Minister is a kakahole.....

Well that is probably exactly what we need in order to get ANY of the sport administrations doing something right. All they do is sit in the office and steal money that should be going to the athletes...all of them! And then argue for more money and how they not getting government support.

Every administration takes whatever money the governement gives them and pays their salary, their plane tickets and their accommodation before they even look at anything to do with the sports under their control.

So if he is kakahole, especiallly to Jack and them, i have no problem with that if we see results once people do as he request

Again...I am happy I'm not the only one seeing it.  As a "full-fledged media person"...or freelance journalist poser...whatever name he make up fuh heself...did Shaun Fuentes ever stand up for his fellow media person, Lasana Liburd when Jack, Camps and Wim were being rude to him?

Forgetting him for a second...like people not doing this math or what?  In the first 18 months SINCE Germany TTFF has received $100 million from the government....or $16.6 million USD.  What has happened to that money??

But we are supposed to be upset that Gary Hunt didn't send them an agenda and because he kick out dey favorite lap dog?  steups.   The government tell allyuh they calling a meeting to discuss what allyuh did with the people money...WHAT OTHER AGENDA ALLYUH NEED???

[kounty]

a lot of talk about the surrounding issues... which are important - like accredited media should be allowed to all media events, right?  even though they far, far left, or right, or have hidden agenda, or not.  2 wrongs don't make a right, so hopefully God give the Gov't the grace to lead and show the right way...even when you know the terrorists in Guantanomo need a little waterboarding to save thousands of innocent lives..

But the main issue here is the Government role in football.  The government can't run football, according to fifa rules (and with good reason).  TTFF constantly complaining that they don't have money to pay the coaches, so gov't say alright...we go handle the coaches.  TTFF gets to decide who to hire and fire with Govt money.   TTFF has the political sway that comes with the check book.  I think the Gov't set themselves up in a dangerous union, cuz when they hold out on they funds, is Jack with the 'I had to mortgage house' etc etc...inflate the bill of the loan to the TTFF, so when the people see the football suffer enough and tell Gov't to come back on board..TTFF owe Jack in the long run.  To me is like they caught between a rock and a hard place.

[Bourbon]

There are several reports of Hunt being discourteous and of bringing a pompous private sector attitude to the Ministry. They are too numerous to reject outright. He is hopeless inelegant in all of his pronouncements as well.   

I support the request for accountability though.

yuh mean effiencey? That ministry liek alot others is run ind e dinasour age? imagine this day and age the minister doesnt have emails getting directly to him instead they have to be fwded to the tech department and then someone has to print it out and carried to him? steups  the ineffiency and well trinidad lackadasical attitude is irksome. And as i keep saying alyuh know i not a fan of the pnm  but allyuh taking ttff propaganda.
 lot of people in the ministry complaining cause de man demanding work done and done properly.  All i hadda say is inna timin. He in charge of the ministry for how loong now?? give him some time. But he wroking with an arhciac system and culture..
My mother works for A ministry and is de worse and de best, worse to get anythign done and best place for a lime on a friday!!!

I understand what you're saying I work in the public service and know how bad it is. What I am talking about is the working relationship he has with various stakeholders.

From various reports in the media they (the sports associations) don't like him. Plain and simple they think is discourteous and condescending. This is what I have heard eh. The "pompous private sector attitude' comment is actually a quote I heard on a radio programme where Hunt was the subject of great criticism.  
I agree with you though, he must be given time to actually judge his performance. 

If that was a Spalk Radio Program with Frankie Boodram representing the TT Autosports Association...dem have a axe to grind with Hunte long time.
So take that with a pinch of salt.

[ZANDOLIE]

Whether Hunt is a jackass or not has ZERO bearing if the Ministry is being properly run.  Let him force TTFF to clean the sh*t off their shoes before they enter people house.

The private sector attitude is badly needed in government.

[Quags]

just my two cents ....After that attack last week by Jack ,the TTFF just expect to waltz een the the man conference ,lol .He like who invite you ,get out ,and tell yah boss he under investigation,this has nothing to do with Shawn,like bakes say ,when u in bed with the devil you must get burn .

[Brownsugar]

As I said before I am all for finding out from Jackula and he croonies what de hell they doing wid we money....

As for the Fuentes situation I raised the point (cuz I don't know), what is the procedure are you supposed to get invited or can you just show up?  He is an accredited media person who stated that he would usually attend press conferences before without trouble.  De Sports Ministry should have dealt with it decisively the moment he arrived and tell him to leave.  

And to say that Fuentes is not media or a journalist because he has yet to defend Lasana is not fair, Lasana has been "battling" Jack by himself and doesn't have the full support of his media colleagues.
And it the question has been raised before, can we really expect Shaun to speak out against the TTFF??...

My initial reaction to what happened stemmed from what appears to be yet another incident involving this Minister.  And then he tries to twist the facts about what happen and blame his PR person.  Lawd fadder....ah don't know how much more unprofessional you could get.

As I said before, all in all the only thing that going to suffer further because of adminstration is the state of the game in this country and that is enough to make me feel  

This latest incident eh helping nobody....

[kentsoulman]

I gotta say that we're all playing into Jacks hands here. Most of the posts here have been concerned with the removal of Shaun Fuentes. Magicians call this technique DISTRACTION. This is what Jack and Ollie are doing.

The story here is why didn't Camps turn up with the TTFF accounts so that Hunt could approve more funding? TTFF are stony broke. They need cash fast. This is the story. Hunts actions have allowed us to be distracted from the big issue. Camps tried the same thing with his "no agenda" accusation.

As for Fuentes, Bakes, I think you're being unfair. His job is to spin everything to TTFFs favour. Thats what he gets paid to do. He does it very, very well and is one of TTFFs major weapons. If FPATT could afford him, they would have him working for them. No one has ever asked him if he agrees with TTFF (obviously, he would not comment).

But you can't blame a policeman for arresting your friend who just commited murder. Someone has to do the job. Its a lucrative job and if Shaun didn't do it, someone else would. Where would he get another job like this. Whether or not he agrees with TTFF, he gives 100%.

However, I totally agree with Bakes when he says that Fuentes should be removed. He is not an independent journalist. He bats for the opposition. And the opposition have twice disrespected Hunt this week. If Shaun wants to be a free lance journalist, he should write a piece for  the paper WITHOUT putting a TTFF slant on it and condeming Jacks actions.

Don't shoot the messenger, guys, but also don't let him into the showers until you know hes got a girlfriend.  

[WestCoast]

Brownsugar,
read this post again

A: Does the minister want me to leave?
B: "That would be the wise thing to do"
C: Why did you tell A to leave?
D: I never gave any such instructions to B.
B: D never gave me any such instructions. A asked me my opinion on his presence and I suggested that it would be wise and better for everyone concerned if he chose to leave. Seeing that he complied, it would seem that he saw the wisdom in my suggestion.

Open and shut case...unfortunately

Hurry, hurry step right up, to the land where the gobar flows non stop...

then this one again

And Fuentes is not media. If you go to any organisation they have PR or marketing department who issues press releases for the company, that is what Fuentes is.As far as i know, they just can't walk in any press conference without being invited. I can's see BPTT PR officer walking into a Petrotrin news conference just to...so the Minister was within his rights eh ppl.

I really doh understand why people on this site still trying to find ways to defend Jack.
Nothing! Nothing the man ever does is above board...get that through allyuh head and we could start fighting back once u recognise the problem. Is like being an alcoholic...we can't move forward if you still in denial. Just accept that Jack is always trying to get away with something, and we could work with that.


"The Enemy of my enemy is my friend"
"If you have to choose, choose the lesser of two evils."

[Bakes]

As for Fuentes, Bakes, I think you're being unfair. His job is to spin everything to TTFFs favour. Thats what he gets paid to do. He does it very, very well and is one of TTFFs major weapons. If FPATT could afford him, they would have him working for them. No one has ever asked him if he agrees with TTFF (obviously, he would not comment).

But you can't blame a policeman for arresting your friend who just commited murder. Someone has to do the job. Its a lucrative job and if Shaun didn't do it, someone else would. Where would he get another job like this. Whether or not he agrees with TTFF, he gives 100%. 

How am I being unfair?  I've long recognized Shaun Fuentes for the french poodle that he is...when Jack holds out his biscuit Shaun wags his tail and comes running.  I once thought him a "journalist" until I woke up one day and saw the light...he's Jack's paid mouthpiece... I made my peace with that knowledge once I realized I had to read everything he published within context.  He's not now free to flaunt his press credentials and proclaim himself a "freelance journalist"...whom does he freelance for?  Since he entered into the employ of the TTFF has he published anything in any capacity other than the TTFF's media officer?  He was not a freelancer before the TTFF (he was at the TT Guardian) and he hasn't been a freelancer since...so his only known current capacity is that of the TTFF media officer.

Your analogy with the policeman doesn't hold up either....if the policeman is objectively enforcing the law then no one can argue when he simply does his job.  If however the police man is accepting payments from criminal elements on the sly, and then whenever the mood hits him he suddenly remember why he was given a badge, a uniform and the public's trust...then by all means he deserves to be castigated.

[dcs]

Looks like the media association eh taking too kindly to this and apparently some other things related to treatment of media.

[WestCoast]

I've long recognized Shaun Fuentes for the french poodle that he is

point of clarification please
poodle or
Lapdog?