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Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« on: April 04, 2008, 03:03:53 AM »
Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
By: Shaun Fuentes (TTFF).
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In a hastily arranged media conference at the Ministry of Sports Offices, Port of Spain on Thursday at 3pm, rookie Sports Minister Gary Hunt demanded accountability from the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation as it relates to funds provided by the Government of the Republic.

Hunt was expecting to meet with officials of the TTFF prior to the Press Conference but the latter party never showed as President Oliver Camps said the Ministry failed to meet a request from the TTFF to be provided with agenda for the meeting. 

“How can a meeting be called and when the TTFF request an agenda, nothing is put forward. This happens no where else and then we were informed very late that they carded a press conference to follow soon after. So we were expected to go there not knowing what was going to be discussed.”

Hunt later relayed all the salaries which his Government had been providing for the technical staff for 2007 giving detail figures for each staff member from head coach to team doctor. He however could not give a valid reason why no salaries had not been paid for 2008 despite Government's commitment following the 2006 World Cup. There was also no comment regarding the lack of support for two Women National Teams engaged in and also preparing for world qualifying competitions.

The TTFF also had its Media Officer Shaun Fuentes shown the exit doors during the press conference. On arrival, Ministry of Sport communications specialist Natasha Nunez expressed her surprise on seeing Fuentes present, saying that no invitation was sent to the TTFF. She was later told by Fuentes that it was only customary that any press conference relating to the TTFF would have the presence of the Federation’s media officer and at no time in the past did past Minister of Sport Roger Boynes have any objection to such.

Then while Fuentes was filming the opening three minutes of Hunt’s address, he paused while looking at Fuentes before calling Nunez to the head table to whisper his directives. Nunez then asked Fuentes what was his purpose for filming Hunte’s address and that he was not authorized to do such. Meanwhile, there were four other television cameras present. Fuentes explained that it was customary for him to be filming interviews and other related actions for the sake of uploading the footage on the TTFF website and YouTube Channel. It appeared that Hunt seemed lost to such multimedia usage as Nunez later relayed to Fuentes that the Minister was still uncertain and appeared to be thrown off during his address by Fuentes’ presence in the sitting audience.

On turning his camera off and putting away, Hunte continued his address briefly before stopping again, this time calling Nunez once more while looking at Fuentes. The former Guardian full time journalist who could also pose as a freelance journalist, on seeing Nunez approaching him once more asked whether the Minister wanted him to leave to which she agreed indicating it would be the wise thing to do at the time. Hunt waited for Fuentes to exit the conference room before apologizing to the guests and media prior to continuing his words.

Once again the Ministry of Sport has said that it was dissatisfied with the TTFF’s presentation of a developmental programme and accounted budget, claiming that they continue to be unacceptable. The question remains who in the Ministry of Sport is deemed fit enough to describe as unfit a football program that is drawn up by a Federation which has former great Lincoln Phillips as its technical director as well as Colombian-born head coach Francisco Maturana on board.
Hunt demands accountability.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).
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Sport Minister Gary Hunt said yesterday that the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) must fulfill certain requirements before they receive financial support from the local government, including a detailed report on their use of over $12 million presented to the football body since the 2006 World Cup.

The Ministry of Sport claimed, at yesterday's press conference, to have asked the T&TFF on Wednesday for the financial terms and conditions of their present staff as well as financial projections up until December 2009. The press conference was called to address claims of financial neglect and discrimination made by T&TFF special advisor and Opposition party co-leader Jack Warner, last Friday.

"It is not that we are trying to be difficult," said Sport Ministry Deputy Permanent Secretary Ashwin Creed. "If we don't get these things right, we will be called to account to (Cabinet) It is taxpayer's money we are dealing with."

Hunt, who replaced outgoing Minister Roger Boynes last November, stressed the government's commitment to football and pointed to over $88 million given to the 2006 World Cup campaign and another $12 million poured into the present South Africa 2010 effort thus far.

Hunt insisted that the government and the T&TFF "want the same thing" and claimed to have a "very good relationship" with the local Federation. There was little evidence of harmony between the bodies over the past seven days. On April 28, Warner accused Hunt of discriminating against the "young black, poor people" of sports like football, basketball and boxing.

The Sport Minister-who claimed to have no relationship with Warner beyond "one or two" encounters at parliament-admitted yesterday that the T&TFF failed to show after allegedly promising to turn up for discussions and to present some semblance of unity at yesterday's press conference.

The one T&TFF official who attended did not leave in good spirits. T&TFF press officer Shaun Fuentes was asked to stop filming during Hunt's statement as he was not a member of the "authorised media". Fuentes asked whether he should leave and was told "if you will" by his Sport Ministry counterpart Natasha Nunez.

Fuentes, who described the attitude of the Sport Ministry as "quite rude", claimed that the Federation did not attend because they did not receive an agenda for the meeting.

Nunez could "neither confirm nor deny" the T&TFF's claim. Regardless, Hunt, who was flanked by Permanent Secretary Margaret Farray and Creed, insisted that the future partnership of State and sport body was "in the T&TFF's hands".

"We just want to ensure the right procedures are put in place to account for all the money put in," said Hunt.

Creed said that the T&TFF was asked to present a strategic developmental plan in January 2007 but, a year later, presented a plan "deficient" in several areas including stakeholder participation, analysis and performance targets.

The Sport Minister admitted that the Hasely Crawford training pitch was in bad shape but insisted the main playing ground was fine and that both fields would be in "pristine" condition by June 1 when Trinidad and Tobago host England. He is equally confident that the Sport Ministry would soon be discussing football's future with the T&TFF and plotting for success in 2010.
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By: Fazeer Mohammed (Express).
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Ready...set...pow! Now that the race card has been thrown on the table by the black football supremo, is it okay for this Indian observer to comment on the dissing of the quarter-Chinese/white boy Sports Minister by the red man at the helm of the Football Federation?

Even with all the crime, all the rising food prices and the increasing sense of discomfort over the direction we are taking as a nation, this place is still too happy yes. There are a few areas around the world where the merest hint of the marginalisation of one ethnic group in preference to others would be the spark to ignite a firestorm. But not here. Not in sweet T&T. It's all part of the picong in this mirage of a paradise, although the recent exchanges between the representative of the political directorate and the sawatees in the administration of the country's most popular sport reflect a pettiness that is distressing given the offices they hold and the degrees of influence they exert.

When Jack Warner can accuse Gary Hunt of discriminating against the "young, poor black men" who aspire to success in football, basketball and boxing, and be allowed to escape unscathed by every arm of an allegedly civil society, you know that the stench of ruin is in the air.

When the target of such unfounded abuse takes the bait and proceeds to make it clear that the TTFF's media officer is not welcome at his press conference (they could say what they want, but the reality is that Hunt's assistant essentially transmitted the news that it was preferable if Shaun Fuentes left the event last Thursday), you know for sure that there is no such thing as moral high ground or dignity of office anymore, and that everyone is prepared to roll up his sleeve, rip off his tie and get down and dirty in the swirling morass of bacchanal.

And when long-serving president Oliver Camps feels it is necessary to refer to the Sports Minister as a "Johnny-come-lately" while defending the Federation from Hunt's allegations of a lack of accountability, the cycle of childish abuse is just about complete.

This is the sort of thing we used to engage in during recess, lunchtime or after school. However, it seems supposedly grown men can't get out of that short pants mentality (no slight on Llewellyn McIntosh, my former history and GP teacher, intended).

It is one thing for us everyday folk to engage in such immature name-calling, but you would think that at least one of that trio would have the sense to step back and, appreciating the bigger picture, refuse to surrender to the temptation of such divisive responses.

I suppose I'm just spitting into a hurricane with this, especially as there are so many of my fellow straight-haired, brown-skinned citizens, revolted as they are at the suggestion that they are more West Indian than East Indian, who continue to observe the regional cricket in purely racial terms.

Such irrational behaviour lends credence to the baseless argument that Amit Jaggernauth's omission from the two Tests against Sri Lanka was primarily because of his ethnicity, the warped logic being that there is some unwritten quota that the selectors must adhere to so as to ensure that those of African descent remain in a comfortable majority in the final XI.

In this context, the photographs of "Man of the Series" Ramnaresh Sarwan leaping onto the back of captain Chris Gayle in celebration on Sunday afternoon at the Queen's Park Oval must be enough to make these sycophants nauseous. But then again, the Guyanese batsman seems to have some of the blood of the native peoples of South America coursing through his veins. So he is not a pure breed, and doesn't know any better or appreciates the irreparable damage he is doing by publicly endorsing Gayle as captain.

Getting back to the earlier issue about preference for "high-coloured" sports, does it mean that the growing popularity of the West Indies versus the World cycling series and the increasing corporate support of the event have more to do with the fact that chief organiser and Cycling Federation president Michael Phillips is a dougla-ish French Creole than the fact that it is efficiently run and effectively marketed?

Seeing as how we're not big on locally-generated statistical data (it is always a source of irritation that all those health and lifestyle stories appearing in our media are based almost exclusively on information from the United States and the United Kingdom), it might be worthwhile to break that mould and have a survey done on the racial composition of the crowd at tonight's opening event around the Queen's Park Savannah.

Then again, we should remember the saying about lies, damn lies and statistics, although it seems that misrepresentations are no hindrance to anyone seeking to make a particular point around here.

Expecting a rational discourse and mature behaviour from public personalities would not seem to be too much to ask in a country that is being readied for the official stamp of "First World" status in the next 12 years. Maybe it's a reflection of the Trini psyche to not take anything seriously, although such indifference is also associated with the classic banana republic.

Now that's an interesting notion: a First World banana republic where sport, politics and race are blended together and served on crushed ice and topped off with a tiny umbrella. This country really too sweet for its own good.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2008, 07:46:55 AM by Flex »
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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 03:35:22 AM »
this debacle encapsulates everything that is wrong with T&T football

it's a dead heat as to who are the biggest bunch of f**kwits, the TTFF or the Sports Ministry

do feel sorry for Shaun Fuentes thou, it sounds like the man is caught between a rock and a hard place

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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 03:35:48 AM »
Fuentes:

The TTFF "chop off" the TD's feet and expect him to "run". That story is yet to be written. Why? ??? Now it's appropriate to invoke his name, when it suits your purpose ent ???
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 05:08:03 AM »
This Sports Minister is a kakahole.....
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 05:23:23 AM »
Hunt demands accountability
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Sport Minister Gary Hunt said yesterday that the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) must fulfill certain requirements before they receive financial support from the local government, including a detailed report on their use of over $12 million presented to the football body since the 2006 World Cup.

The Ministry of Sport claimed, at yesterday's press conference, to have asked the T&TFF on Wednesday for the financial terms and conditions of their present staff as well as financial projections up until December 2009.

The press conference was called to address claims of financial neglect and discrimination made by T&TFF special advisor and Opposition party co-leader Jack Warner, last Friday.

"It is not that we are trying to be difficult," said Sport Ministry Deputy Permanent Secretary Ashwin Creed. "If we don't get these things right, we will be called to account to (Cabinet) It is taxpayer's money we are dealing with."

Hunt, who replaced outgoing Minister Roger Boynes last November, stressed the government's commitment to football and pointed to over $88 million given to the 2006 World Cup campaign and another $12 million poured into the present South Africa 2010 effort thus far.

Hunt insisted that the government and the T&TFF "want the same thing" and claimed to have a "very good relationship" with the local Federation.

There was little evidence of harmony between the bodies over the past seven days.

On April 28, Warner accused Hunt of discriminating against the "young black, poor people" of sports like football, basketball and boxing.

The Sport Minister-who claimed to have no relationship with Warner beyond "one or two" encounters at parliament-admitted yesterday that the T&TFF failed to show after allegedly promising to turn up for discussions and to present some semblance of unity at yesterday's press conference.

The one T&TFF official who attended did not leave in good spirits.

T&TFF press officer Shaun Fuentes was asked to stop filming during Hunt's statement as he was not a member of the "authorised media". Fuentes asked whether he should leave and was told "if you will" by his Sport Ministry counterpart Natasha Nunez.

Fuentes, who described the attitude of the Sport Ministry as "quite rude", claimed that the Federation did not attend because they did not receive an agenda for the meeting.

Nunez could "neither confirm nor deny" the T&TFF's claim.

Regardless, Hunt, who was flanked by Permanent Secretary Margaret Farray and Creed, insisted that the future partnership of State and sport body was "in the T&TFF's hands".

"We just want to ensure the right procedures are put in place to account for all the money put in," said Hunt.

Creed said that the T&TFF was asked to present a strategic developmental plan in January 2007 but, a year later, presented a plan "deficient" in several areas including stakeholder participation, analysis and performance targets.

The Sport Minister admitted that the Hasely Crawford training pitch was in bad shape but insisted the main playing ground was fine and that both fields would be in "pristine" condition by June 1 when Trinidad and Tobago host England.

He is equally confident that the Sport Ministry would soon be discussing football's future with the T&TFF and plotting for success in 2010
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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 05:32:23 AM »
This Sports Minister is a kakahole.....

 Hence the name" Gary Isaac Hunt "
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2008, 05:37:19 AM »
Are we in Cuba?

Hunt seems irrational and picking which sport to support depending on who he like and who he eh like.

This man acting like Panday when it come to the media...u throw a media person out of a press conference?  TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE....damn gestapo.  U too Nunez u should have advised that clown he was acting inappropriately.

I am pretty sure the TD was involved in the drafting of the budget because I think it was him who was mainly responsible for getting funds in the past for some other key programs from SPORTT.

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2008, 05:42:00 AM »
Ok, I know I live on the other side of the world, but I find the posts here amazing.

This site is full of discusions over TTFFs lack of financial control and whispers of money being diverted into peoples pockets. As I recall, TTFF even presented false accounts to the last minister when they tried to sort out the world cup bonuses.

Didn't TTFF say they only got $18 million or something when govt said they got $173 million?

People are dissin the government for asking to see how YOUR money is being spent before thy give out more. Seems to me, this minister should get a medal. He's protecting TAXPAYERS money.

And why should he be nice to Shaun Fuentes? TTFF couldn't be bothered to turn up because they know they can't show their accounts, but instead send their media guy to spy. Well, if Camps wanted to know what the minister was going to say, e should have got his ass down there. As for not having an agenda, Camps is an idiot. If theres no agenda, Camps can refuse to discuss subjects on the grounds he was not prepared. This should have been an expoloratory meeting to discuss a meeting. Hunt says want he needs to see and Camps brings it to the next meeting. Simple. Or should I say, Simpaul?

I have no problem with Mr Fuentes, but I think he was sent there to collect info for Warners propoganda machine.  

Finally, Warner attacked the minister the other day. The gloves are off and Hunt should get tough. Its about time people stopped kissing Jacks ass.

This is just Jack telling Camps to disrespect Hunt. Jack thinks the public will take his side against the nasty minister. And you've fallen for it.

Wake up guys. Hunt may not be the best, but he certainly isn't going to offer Jack an open purse to repay his new mortgage. T&T football has needed accountability and transparency for years. Now its arriving, welcome it. It will clean up the game and drive out the crooks.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2008, 05:47:09 AM »
The Sport Minister admitted that the Hasely Crawford training pitch was in bad shape but insisted the main playing ground was fine and that both fields would be in "pristine" condition by June 1 when Trinidad and Tobago host England.

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has something changed or he mispoke...time to take more pics of the pitch.  Maybe they will be guarding it will the military now  lol

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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2008, 05:55:43 AM »

TTFF should publish the budget in the papers like they have before.

Lets see if the Minister blowing smoke and I suspect he is in retaliation for being embarassed.  The amount of conflicts in local football caused by testosterone is amazing.

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2008, 06:05:11 AM »
Theres a big difference between putting accounts in the paper and submitting to an official audit.

I want to know how much has been spent on fighting the players arbitration case, including first class flights to England and 5 star hotels, how they will pay the legal bill  if they lose and where they will get the bonus money from if they have to pay.

They had the money once, but decided not to pay and spent it on other things.

In any other business, TTFF management would have been sacked last year. They really have to go. They're totally cocking up your football.

My big worry now is that Jack will get millions from the England match and "forget" to pay Englands costs etc. We're still owed £135,000 by Jamaica from 2006....and that was played in England!!

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2008, 06:12:33 AM »

And why should he be nice to Shaun Fuentes? TTFF couldn't be bothered to turn up because they know they can't show their accounts, but instead send their media guy to spy. Well, if Camps wanted to know what the minister was going to say, e should have got his ass down there. As for not having an agenda, Camps is an idiot. If theres no agenda, Camps can refuse to discuss subjects on the grounds he was not prepared. This should have been an expoloratory meeting to discuss a meeting. Hunt says want he needs to see and Camps brings it to the next meeting. Simple. Or should I say, Simpaul?

I have no problem with Mr Fuentes, but I think he was sent there to collect info for Warners propoganda machine.  

Kentsoulman, I TOTALLY agree with the Minister for asking de TTFF to account for every cent given to them by the Gov't.
My initial post was directed at the way Fuentes was treated.  It just appeared to be another one of his disrepectful displays since assuming office.

However, after reading your post I may reconsider my position on THIS particular issue  :thinking: :thinking:
Outside of that overall, this Minister strikes me as clueless and lacking in people skills.
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2008, 06:25:05 AM »
Well, me eh have nutten personal against Shaun, as many a time I have supported him right here on this forum!

But he showing up at that meeting is suspect.  Why would he go sans his TTFF President.  Wasn't he also dismayed that the Government failed to present an agenda?  Since when does the TTFF demand written agendas?  And why does a Press conference warrant any agenda?

The TTFF has failed time and time again to put their intentions in writing, failed to prove accountable records, and has failed to be truthful as it pertains to expenditure of government provided funds.

If it is true that the Government has been paying all salaries last year, why is Wim the Dutch Ninny, still making comments that he was not paid, was late being paid and is still owed monies?

Why haven't we seen a truthful breakdown of the TTFF's expenditure?

Where is the World Cup money?  The TTFF can complain that the Government is not supporting football, but the truth, according to the Government is far different?

Where is the TTFF's books showing lack of Government support?

Lies!

That said, there is absolutely no valid reason for victimizing Shaun Fuentes.  This is not that shit ass country to the north, that some claim to be great, and our leaders are not known by the surname Castro!  Gary Hunt needs to send a written apology to Mr. Fuentes,  EVEN THOUGH fUENTES IS NOT PART OF THE PRESS, IT APPEARS PRECEDENCE HAS BEEN SET by the former Sports Minister. And at the same time he ahs a right to DEMAND accountability from the TTFF or withold further funding of ALL TTFF related "programs."
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2008, 06:25:55 AM »
There are several reports of Hunt being discourteous and of bringing a pompous private sector attitude to the Ministry. They are too numerous to reject outright. He is hopeless inelegant in all of his pronouncements as well.   

I support the request for accountability though.

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2008, 06:33:00 AM »
Well, me eh have nutten personal against Shaun, as many a time I have supported him right here on this forum!

But he showing up at that meeting is suspect.  Why would he go sans his TTFF President.  Wasn't he also dismayed that the Government failed to present an agenda?  Since when does the TTFF demand written agendas?  And why does a Press conference warrant any agenda?

The TTFF has failed time and time again to put their intentions in writing, failed to prove accountable, and has failed to be truthful as it pertains to expenditure of government provided funds.

If it is true that the Government has been paying all salaries last year, why is Wim the Dutch Ninny, still making comments that he was not paid, was late being paid and is still owed monies?

Why haven't we seen a truthful breakdown of the TTFF's expenditure?

Where is the World Cup money?  The TTFF can complain that the Government is not supporting football, but the truth, according to the Government is far different?

Where is the TTFF's books showing lack of Government support?

Lies!

That said, there is absolutely no valid reason for victimizing Shaun Fuentes.  This is not that shit ass country to the north, that some claim to be great, and our leaders are not known by the surname Castro!  Gary Hunt needs to send a written apology to Mr. Fuentes, and at the same time he ahs a right to DEMAND accountability from the TTFF or withold further funding of ALL TTFF related "programs."

DAMN RIGHT.

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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 06:55:04 AM »
Well, me eh have nutten personal against Shaun, as many a time I have supported him right here on this forum!

But he showing up at that meeting is suspect.  Why would he go sans his TTFF President.  Wasn't he also dismayed that the Government failed to present an agenda?  Since when does the TTFF demand written agendas?  And why does a Press conference warrant any agenda?

The TTFF has failed time and time again to put their intentions in writing, failed to prove accountable, and has failed to be truthful as it pertains to expenditure of government provided funds.

If it is true that the Government has been paying all salaries last year, why is Wim the Dutch Ninny, still making comments that he was not paid, was late being paid and is still owed monies?

Why haven't we seen a truthful breakdown of the TTFF's expenditure?

Where is the World Cup money?  The TTFF can complain that the Government is not supporting football, but the truth, according to the Government is far different?

Where is the TTFF's books showing lack of Government support?

Lies!

That said, there is absolutely no valid reason for victimizing Shaun Fuentes.  This is not that shit ass country to the north, that some claim to be great, and our leaders are not known by the surname Castro!  Gary Hunt needs to send a written apology to Mr. Fuentes, and at the same time he ahs a right to DEMAND accountability from the TTFF or withold further funding of ALL TTFF related "programs."

DAMN RIGHT.

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2008, 07:04:20 AM »
There are several reports of Hunt being discourteous and of bringing a pompous private sector attitude to the Ministry. They are too numerous to reject outright. He is hopeless inelegant in all of his pronouncements as well.   

I support the request for accountability though.
yuh mean effiencey? That ministry liek alot others is run ind e dinasour age? imagine this day and age the minister doesnt have emails getting directly to him instead they have to be fwded to the tech department and then someone has to print it out and carried to him? steups  the ineffiency and well trinidad lackadasical attitude is irksome. And as i keep saying alyuh know i not a fan of the pnm  but allyuh taking ttff propaganda.
 lot of people in the ministry complaining cause de man demanding work done and done properly.  All i hadda say is inna timin. He in charge of the ministry for how loong now?? give him some time. But he wroking with an arhciac system and culture..
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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2008, 07:05:51 AM »
They were just on I95.5 discussing the issue.  Dale & Toney took the position that Shaun Fuentes is a media person and as such has every right to be at the press conference....

Neil Parsanlal (Information Minister) call in to try to defend the Minister's actions (never mind he eh talk to Hunt on de issue eh) and was trying to make it sound as if the Minister has every right to do what he do since Shaun is employed with the TTFF and not a Media person outright.  Dale tell him he wrong.

(This Neil Parsanlal is ah next one ah watching with one eye open....the official spin doctor for de Gov't.....but then again that is what dey paying him for)...

Then Dale & Toney started discussing why since the story broke last night and into this morning, the Sports Minister (via whatever means or person whether is the Minister himself [hardly likely] or the communications person Ms. Nunez) has not said anything to refute the story so far.

Anywho, dey going to try to get more information on the whole issue from the Sports Ministry's side in the next hour....stay tuned....
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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2008, 07:19:29 AM »
Ok....Chapter 2
Dey just talk to Fuentes...hold on...Hunt on de line now...

Edit:

Alright Chapter 2 & 3 together.....

Dey talk to Fuentes....he repeated basically what was outlined in the article above.....he said when he arrived he was asked why was he there since he was not invited.
He said he has always gone to such press conferences in the past and saw no reason to stay away since it was football related.

He clarified (so Neil Parsanlal could get it clear in he head) that he IS an accredited media person and he freelances as a journalist.  So he had every right to be there.

Chapter 3
Gary call in and say he NEVER tell Shaun Fuentes to leave and he (Fuentes) must have misunderstood what Ms. Nunez (de comms person) tell him.  He said that he inquired of Ms. Nunez who he (Fuentes) was and that was all.  He say he going to talk to Ms. Nunez about it but he repeated that HE NEVER TELL FUENTES TO LEAVE...

(Note that Feuntes asked Ms. Nunez if he should leave and she said yes..)
Unfortunately for de Minister, he is not a very good liar.....

So ah repeating mih original stance
Dis Minister is ah kakahole with a capital K.... >:(
« Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 07:35:38 AM by brownsugar »
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2008, 07:31:54 AM »
Hunt just throw Nunez under the bus and say he never gave those instructions and he didn't know who Fuentes was.

Dem forget those mics very sensitive.

Hunt looking like a liar now and he was stammering to boot  :devil:
« Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 07:50:35 AM by dcs »

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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2008, 07:36:47 AM »
Ok, I know I live on the other side of the world, but I find the posts here amazing.
This site is full of discusions over TTFFs lack of financial control and whispers of money being diverted into peoples pockets. As I recall, TTFF even presented false accounts to the last minister when they tried to sort out the world cup bonuses.
Didn't TTFF say they only got $18 million or something when govt said they got $173 million?
People are dissin the government for asking to see how YOUR money is being spent before thy give out more. Seems to me, this minister should get a medal. He's protecting TAXPAYERS money.
And why should he be nice to Shaun Fuentes? TTFF couldn't be bothered to turn up because they know they can't show their accounts, but instead send their media guy to spy. Well, if Camps wanted to know what the minister was going to say, e should have got his ass down there. As for not having an agenda, Camps is an idiot. If theres no agenda, Camps can refuse to discuss subjects on the grounds he was not prepared. This should have been an exploratory meeting to discuss a meeting. Hunt says want he needs to see and Camps brings it to the next meeting. Simple. Or should I say, Simpaul?
I have no problem with Mr Fuentes, but I think he was sent there to collect info for Warners propoganda machine.  
Finally, Warner attacked the minister the other day. The gloves are off and Hunt should get tough. Its about time people stopped kissing Jacks ass.
This is just Jack telling Camps to disrespect Hunt. Jack thinks the public will take his side against the nasty minister. And you've fallen for it.
Wake up guys. Hunt may not be the best, but he certainly isn't going to offer Jack an open purse to repay his new mortgage. T&T football has needed accountability and transparency for years. Now its arriving, welcome it. It will clean up the game and drive out the crooks.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
and I say go so far as to demand elections by all PFL teams to elect the TTFF administration every 4 years and get rid of the "special advisor" position if they want govt money in the future. ;)
« Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 07:48:39 AM by WestCoast »
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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2008, 08:07:31 AM »
Take allyuh facking personal politics out ah dis.

Jack is de Kaka hole with de capital K.

The Minister has every right to run his ministry like ah private business in the sense that he decide he eh taking shit!

He was wrong to have Fuentes put out of the meeting.

If he did not know who Fuentes was, he ahd every right to assume he was press.   Additionally, he is ultimatley responsible for the actions of his staff.

In fairness though, I can also see the Ministry's position of Fuentes filming the goings-on as a paid rep of the TTFF especially after the TTFF oficals snubbed the meeting.

The Ministry's response is suspect, if as Shaun reports, he was asked why he was there from the get go!

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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2008, 08:13:19 AM »
Truetrini....unfortunately.....we cannot take politics out of this....it's not the main issue here, but once we dealing with Jack/TTFF vs. Gary/Sports ministry....it goh have ah undercurrent of politics

And we dealing with 2 kakaholes.....now ah know for sure de football goh suffer in between de 2 ah dem...
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2008, 08:16:39 AM »
Truetrini....unfortunately.....we cannot take politics out of this....it's not the main issue here, but once we dealing with Jack/TTFF vs. Gary/Sports ministry....it goh have ah undercurrent of politics

And we dealing with 2 kakaholes.....now ah know for sure de football goh suffer in between de 2 ah dem...


I am saying that Jack is the one bring politics into it, and we as fans should refrain from bringing our personal politics into the matter.

when Jack says the government is discriminating against black young men, we have a problem.

Especially when the Ministry claims to have paid over 100 million into the TTFF coffers.

The Government is building big sports complex, the Government is helping athletes, mostly black eh.
The Government is helping open Basketball league etc.

Take it fuh waht it is..smokescreen from Jack and the TTFF!

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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2008, 08:20:43 AM »
There are several reports of Hunt being discourteous and of bringing a pompous private sector attitude to the Ministry. They are too numerous to reject outright. He is hopeless inelegant in all of his pronouncements as well.   

I support the request for accountability though.
yuh mean effiencey? That ministry liek alot others is run ind e dinasour age? imagine this day and age the minister doesnt have emails getting directly to him instead they have to be fwded to the tech department and then someone has to print it out and carried to him? steups  the ineffiency and well trinidad lackadasical attitude is irksome. And as i keep saying alyuh know i not a fan of the pnm  but allyuh taking ttff propaganda.
 lot of people in the ministry complaining cause de man demanding work done and done properly.  All i hadda say is inna timin. He in charge of the ministry for how loong now?? give him some time. But he wroking with an arhciac system and culture..
My mother works for A ministry and is de worse and de best, worse to get anythign done and best place for a lime on a friday!!!
I understand what you're saying I work in the public service and know how bad it is. What I am talking about is the working relationship he has with various stakeholders.

From various reports in the media they (the sports associations) don't like him. Plain and simple they think is discourteous and condescending. This is what I have heard eh. The "pompous private sector attitude' comment is actually a quote I heard on a radio programme where Hunt was the subject of great criticism. 

I agree with you though, he must be given time to actually judge his performance. 

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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2008, 08:25:18 AM »
A: Does the minister want me to leave?
B: "That would be the wise thing to do"
C: Why did you tell A to leave?
D: I never gave any such instructions to B.
B: D never gave me any such instructions. A asked me my opinion on his presence and I suggested that it would be wise and better for everyone concerned if he chose to leave. Seeing that he complied, it would seem that he saw the wisdom in my suggestion.

Open and shut case...unfortunately

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Re: Sports Ministry says no to TTFF Media.
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2008, 08:26:36 AM »
Just Fix my f**king Pitch

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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2008, 08:27:54 AM »
It is high time that the Government starts to ruh its business like a private sector business.  Trim the fat, demand accountability and bring higher standards into the Government!

As for Hunt being condescending, can it be a case of him demanding more accountability, and it is not a case of him demanding that business will no longer be conducted in the same old manner?

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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2008, 08:35:44 AM »
Truetrini....unfortunately.....we cannot take politics out of this....it's not the main issue here, but once we dealing with Jack/TTFF vs. Gary/Sports ministry....it goh have ah undercurrent of politics

And we dealing with 2 kakaholes.....now ah know for sure de football goh suffer in between de 2 ah dem...


I am saying that Jack is the one bring politics into it, and we as fans should refrain from bringing our personal politics into the matter.

when Jack says the government is discriminating against black young men, we have a problem.

Especially when the Ministry claims to have paid over 100 million into the TTFF coffers.

The Government is building big sports complex, the Government is helping athletes, mostly black eh.
The Government is helping open Basketball league etc.

Take it fuh waht it is..smokescreen from Jack and the TTFF!

TT ah hear yuh on not bringing personal politics into the thing....and I know Jackula will make any move by the Gov't out to be politically motivated, so there will always be some undercurrent of politics daiz just how it is.....

But Jackula could talk till he blue in de face NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO MONEY!!!....I supported Roger Boynes when he asked for accountability and I will support Gary Hunt in his call too....

However, as Jah Gol pointed out, Gary Hunt has done some harm to the Sports fraternity since his arrival.  I know he hasn't been there long but this latest episode is just yet another example that maybe, just maybe, he should stick to the private sector....
However, time will tell....

Overall, we do agree how ever that the Ministry of Sports cannot continue to just give away money to de TTFF without accountability....if he (Gary Hunt) tell Jackula/TTFF to shove it....there will be no protest from me...
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Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2008, 08:52:58 AM »
Hurry, hurry step right up, to the land where the gobar flows non stop...
I feel you really mean
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