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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2008, 11:05:04 AM »
Puyol suspended for the 2 most dotish red cards I ever see.

Overrated

not more than Salgado, Woodgate and the rest ah dem goats floundering around in the back for Madrid.

Zambrotta------Thuram--------Millito------Abidal

Thuram go have to walk with he jumping boots because those crosses will be whipped in fast and furious and it's no sceret that Barca not good in the air.

Disgruntled, scratch Abidal from that line up.  After seeing that he'll be facing Ronaldo or Nani he is begging not to be played.  Man start having sleepless nights already.

Regarding the crosses, remember, that Tevez and Rooney are short, the only person high crosses are whipped for, excepting corners, is when Ronaldo is in the box.

At the point Frank scratching him head trying to figure what cards Fergie gonna deal.

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2008, 11:07:36 AM »
Its not about the long ball or the short ball...its about the right ball....not my words
         :applause: :applause: This is the best line i read all morning on this topic but is one question i would like to ask,can any one tell me what is wrong with the long ball in Football?some people talk about it as though it's a crime,this game is about tactics and teamwork,Man U has always been a team that everyone respects regardless of what league they from,why they respect them is because they play a good brand of Football,they are always in contention for everything,is that why people hate them?their brand of Football creates problems for other teams because of the nature of their game,it's a mixture of long ball/short ball/possession and individuals who can change the outcome of a game at any given time.
           Like or hate them no one on here misses a Man U game,that makes them special,it's entertainment from start to finish because anything can happen at any time,Ronaldo stop diving and like he scoring more goals,any how lets look forward to the next Man U game.

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2008, 11:09:16 AM »
lol @ these mancunians..

all this talk not dissimilar to de banter prior to the AC milan semi final last year when they got their asses properly handed to them.

The image of Gattuso sending CR7 pelting into the advertising hoardings with the shoulder of a champion is still very fresh in memory.

Lets not forget that this game qualifies as a "big fixture" so we can pretty much nullify Ronaldo's influence on the tie; unless they get a penalty of course.  

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Is only Rooney to worry about.

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2008, 11:15:14 AM »
Why Cryuff eh hul he cuddas munt!!! :devil: :rotfl:

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2008, 11:19:15 AM »
Its not about the long ball or the short ball...its about the right ball....not my words
          :applause: :applause: This is the best line i read all morning on this topic but is one question i would like to ask,can any one tell me what is wrong with the long ball in Football?some people talk about it as though it's a crime,this game is about tactics and teamwork,Man U has always been a team that everyone respects regardless of what league they from,why they respect them is because they play a good brand of Football,they are always in contention for everything,is that why people hate them?their brand of Football creates problems for other teams because of the nature of their game,it's a mixture of long ball/short ball/possession and individuals who can change the outcome of a game at any given time.
           Like or hate them no one on here misses a Man U game,that makes them special,it's entertainment from start to finish because anything can happen at any time,Ronaldo stop diving and like he scoring more goals,any how lets look forward to the next Man U game.

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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2008, 11:19:34 AM »
lol @ these mancunians..

all this talk not dissimilar to de banter prior to the AC milan semi final last year when they got their asses properly handed to them.

The image of Gattuso sending CR7 pelting into the advertising hoardings with the shoulder of a champion is still very fresh in memory.

Lets not forget that this game qualifies as a "big fixture" so we can pretty much nullify Ronaldo's influence on the tie; unless they get a penalty of course.  

Ya Ya Toure in he mc!

Is only Rooney to worry about.

Cant wait for next week.

the difference between the Milan and the Barca game is both Rio and Vidic got injuried and Vidic had to be rushed back to play the Milan leg.  Vidic is currently recovering and is said to be ready to play this Saturday.  I don't see any Empire represenatives aka Manu fans dissing Barca ... but if Barca had a choice I'm quite certain they'd have chosen either Livafool or the Russians.

As far as the Empire is concerned .... to be the best ... we simply have to beat the rest.

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2008, 11:24:19 AM »
Its not about the long ball or the short ball...its about the right ball....not my words
          :applause: :applause: This is the best line i read all morning on this topic but is one question i would like to ask,can any one tell me what is wrong with the long ball in Football?some people talk about it as though it's a crime,this game is about tactics and teamwork,Man U has always been a team that everyone respects regardless of what league they from,why they respect them is because they play a good brand of Football,they are always in contention for everything,is that why people hate them?their brand of Football creates problems for other teams because of the nature of their game,it's a mixture of long ball/short ball/possession and individuals who can change the outcome of a game at any given time.
           Like or hate them no one on here misses a Man U game,that makes them special,it's entertainment from start to finish because anything can happen at any time,Ronaldo stop diving and like he scoring more goals,any how lets look forward to the next Man U game.

To me the long ball implies hit and hope, you hope somebody latch on to it. Booom kick football, the sh!t boring. Compared to when you build up the play by passing the ball. Imagine watchin sides like Bolton, all season?
        What i'm trying to say is, if the long ball is used at the appropriate times or for tactical reasons it's a beautiful ball,further more if you can win with it why not use it even if it's ugly,but i understand how people feels about it and your logic is correct.   
The key thing is, the tactics as you mentioned. A lot of people are not fans of the long ball because it bypasses the midfield where the action is, but the thing is, the long ball when played with accuracy is deadly. Remember the 1998 world cup quarterfinal  game between Argentina and Holland. In the last few minutes of the game it was a pin point pass from the back (may have been from Reizeger..cyar remember) straight to Berkamp, who proceeded to beat Ayala on the trap and finish in the top corner!
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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2008, 11:27:23 AM »
This tie will be extremely difficult for United and for my money Barcelona are favourites, despite United’s form in the CL this year.

Fcat is that Barcelona were finalists and Champs as recently as two years ago whereas United have not won the BIG GAME in Europe for almost 10 years. Year after year they have just not got it right.

This year does seem different though. They have confidence. The players young but experienced and they have last year fresh in their memory.

The key is in how well they defend. That has always been the problem in Europe. Always failing to win away from home and giving up goals at home. Ferguson will play the first leg like Liverpool and try to get an away goal without exposing the team. As long as they don’t get caught out by a piece of skill from Messi, Henry etc. they will be all right.
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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2008, 11:49:54 AM »
lol @ these mancunians..

all this talk not dissimilar to de banter prior to the AC milan semi final last year when they got their asses properly handed to them.

The image of Gattuso sending CR7 pelting into the advertising hoardings with the shoulder of a champion is still very fresh in memory.

Lets not forget that this game qualifies as a "big fixture" so we can pretty much nullify Ronaldo's influence on the tie; unless they get a penalty of course. 

Ya Ya Toure in he mc!

Is only Rooney to worry about.

Cant wait for next week.

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2008, 12:15:34 PM »

not more than Salgado, Woodgate and the rest ah dem goats floundering around in the back for Madrid.


Salgado wasn't overrated - Everyone knows he was shite..... Funny thing is he was the weak link when Madrid used to run things, and a big player when Madrid was struggling  :D

and Woodgate? Well I doh really consider him a Madrid player... He mus' be play more game for Spurs already than he played for Madrid

But Puyol eh better than Cannavaro or Sergio Ramos....Puyol is wild hairy animal whose hyperness, charisma & perceived intensity manages to compensate for his propensity to spend quality time scrambling or on on his a$$ against a skilful attack... ok ah exaggerating, but I doh really rate him.  
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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2008, 12:47:33 PM »
Puyol suspended for the 2 most dotish red cards I ever see.

Overrated

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2008, 01:54:22 PM »
Puyol overrated? nah allyuh n knw what allyuh saying.
anyways barca problem is defending, toure not the same since the injury to his back, abidal woefully out of form , frank have no confidence in anyone else at that position so abidal is going to start. i really see him conceding ah silly penalty.

one thing  i am very sure of is that the fatwoman will be very nervous about singing. this is going down to the wire


and as a barca fan the team i fear the most in this last for is liverpool, cause torres always was and will always be ah thorn in we side
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« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2008, 01:58:34 PM »
Barça have decided that one of the players they most want for next season is Lyon’s Karim Benzema. Txiki Begiristain travelled to Lyon yesterday where he met with Lyon’s Director of Sport, Bernard Lacombe, and he watched Benzema score in the 1-0 win over Metz in the French Cup.

According to newspaper reports this morning Barça are prepared to bid €3o million for the 20-year-old Benzema who recently extended his contract at Lyon until 2013. Lyon are not a club to sell cheaply, but despite their efforts their best players such as Essien or Diarra, are eventually allowed to leave.

I think Benzema would be an excellent addition to the squad. He is young and hungry, he scores with both feet, is very quick and is also good in the air. The signing, however, is not going to be easy, and I feel that if Barça really want to sign him, they will have to increase the offer in the end. With Eto’o and Bojan, Barça have the centre forward position well covered, perhaps if they want to spend a lot of money it would be better spent on reinforcing other positions.
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« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2008, 03:20:51 PM »
Barça have decided that one of the players they most want for next season is Lyon’s Karim Benzema. Txiki Begiristain travelled to Lyon yesterday where he met with Lyon’s Director of Sport, Bernard Lacombe, and he watched Benzema score in the 1-0 win over Metz in the French Cup.

According to newspaper reports this morning Barça are prepared to bid €3o million for the 20-year-old Benzema who recently extended his contract at Lyon until 2013. Lyon are not a club to sell cheaply, but despite their efforts their best players such as Essien or Diarra, are eventually allowed to leave.

I think Benzema would be an excellent addition to the squad. He is young and hungry, he scores with both feet, is very quick and is also good in the air. The signing, however, is not going to be easy, and I feel that if Barça really want to sign him, they will have to increase the offer in the end. With Eto’o and Bojan, Barça have the centre forward position well covered, perhaps if they want to spend a lot of money it would be better spent on reinforcing other positions.

Barca need to check in on Flamini. He stalling on signing a new Arsenal contract.

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2008, 09:03:56 AM »
THe most set ah shit buys does happen when other teams realise Barca have money to spend.

It has happened time and time again. When Barca sold Figo they went out and spent exorbitant amounts of $ on waste ah time players.

Moral of the story we end up with Rochemback, Litmannan, Giovanni, Overmars and a host of other players that was a waste of time.

I frighten to see what going and happen this summer.


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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2008, 09:11:52 AM »
THe most set ah shit buys does happen when other teams realise Barca have money to spend.

It has happened time and time again. When Barca sold Figo they went out and spent exorbitant amounts of $ on waste ah time players.

Moral of the story we end up with Rochemback, Litmannan, Giovanni, Overmars and a host of other players that was a waste of time.

I frighten to see what going and happen this summer.
I thought Overmars was decent player with us. Christianval is probably the worst player I've seen in a Barca shirt.

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2008, 09:20:19 AM »
THe most set ah shit buys does happen when other teams realise Barca have money to spend.

It has happened time and time again. When Barca sold Figo they went out and spent exorbitant amounts of $ on waste ah time players.

Moral of the story we end up with Rochemback, Litmannan, Giovanni, Overmars and a host of other players that was a waste of time.

I frighten to see what going and happen this summer.

i eh think dem bad transfers was so much about money than Van Gaal trying to Hollandize the barcelona team and also the president at that time (Gaspart?) who didnt have a clue..

Remember that keeper Ruud Hesp??

And wha bout Reiziger, Cocu on de downside and also they had a central defender name Okoronwo i think who was ah waste too.. Where is he now?

And yes Christanval come with a big reputation but he was de worst.
         

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Re: Cruyff backs Barca to beat 'long ball' United
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2008, 11:51:45 AM »
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With all the furore surrounding the future of Brazilian star Ronaldinho, it's easy to miss the fact that the Blaugrana have had yet another disappointing season in La Liga.




Nine points off current leaders Real Madrid, Barcelona have been shockingly inconsistent in this campaign, especially for a side who have such a wealth of talent at their disposal.

In serious danger of missing out on second spot to an in-form Villarreal side, the next few weeks could decide the future of head coach Frank Rijkaard and many of the players at the club for next season.

Not only do Barcelona have a crucially important pair of fixtures against Manchester United in the Champions League to contend with, they also have the potential turbulence of the El Clásico with Madrid in May. The result may be of little consequence as the title could quite easily be decided by then, but a poor performance against their biggest rivals could precipitate a clear-out of gigantic proportions.

Ronaldinho, the club's marquee player in recent years, has found himself constantly sidelined and the subject of transfer speculation for most of Europe's elite (and Manchester City too). Now the Brazilian seems to have his heart set on a move to Milan, although whether it's Inter or AC remains to be seen; and, for the first time since his arrival in Spain, Barca are happy to let him go.

The money they get for the twice named FIFA World Player of the Year will almost certainly go towards rebuilding the squad, but the Brazilian will not be the only high profile name leaving the Nou Camp.

Gianluca Zambrotta's inability to adapt to the Spanish game could see him return to Italy, with AC Milan and former club Juventus showing interest. The full-back is one of the most talented defenders in the world game on his day, but after failing to settle, a decent chunk of his transfer fee could go towards a deal for the highly-rated Daniel Alves, who Barca are keen to steal away from under the noses of Madrid.

Midfielder Deco may also have played his last game in the famous shirt, as his rapidly expiring contract looks no closer to getting an extension. Blunted by the emergence of Andreas Iniesta, the Portuguese is second choice behind the likes of Xavi and Yaya Toure and has been used sparingly in the current campaign. He'll have no shortage of suitors.

Up front, having got Thierry Henry on the cheap from Arsenal at a mere £16million, Barca wasted little time in making the Frenchman unhappy by playing him out on the left instead of as a central striker. As a result, it would seem that a bid of around a similar figure would pave his way out of the club, with Newcastle ready to bring the once prolific striker back to England.

And the list doesn't end there. A host of players look unlikely to earn new deals at the Nou Camp, with a combination of age, poor form and money playing a part. The forgotten man of the club, Santiago Ezquerro, is certain to leave, while Brazilian midfielder Edmílson has done himself no favours by revealing a rift in the dressing room and is out of contract soon. Oleguer, who formed part of the solid defence of 2005/06, is also out of favour and could move on, along with Lilian Thuram and Sylvinho.

Undoubtedly, a spine of Carlos Puyol, Xavi, Lionel Messi and Samuel Eto'o suggest that Barcelona will still be challenging for honours next season, but in handling what could be a squad-sapping exodus, there will have to be some high-profile replacements coming in.

Johan Cruyff's influence could see Ajax striker Klass-Jan Huntelaar arrive, while Barca director Txiki Beguiristain has already been seen scouting Lyon's young star Karim Benzema, who penned an extra year's extension to his current deal at the Stade de Gerland last month. Both players would make great replacements for Henry and, with youth on their side, could embody a shift in the club's reliance on experienced stars.

Already pointing to the future with the likes of Bojan Krkic and Giovani Dos Santos, Barca have also been linked with Valencia winger David Silva. With Los Che failing so miserably in the league, the 22-year-old could be part of a migration of his own and with Barca in need of a left-footed wideman, could fit the bill perfectly.

To firm up the defence, Racing Santander's Argentine Ezequiel Garay seemed on the verge of sealing a move to the Nou Camp before the Catalans pulled out and could still be set on a move. Creating a stir around Europe with his dead-ball skills and towering defensive performances, Real Madrid and Man Utd are now rumoured to be interested in the 21-year-old. Certainly, the defender has outgrown his current surroundings and Barca would do well to replace the likes of Thuram and Oleguer with younger blood.


What is clear is that something has to change and, with Jose Mourinho and Rafa Benitez linked with the club, the biggest loss of all could come in the form of Rijkaard. Viewed as a scapegoat for the team's inconsistent performances over the past year, Rijkaard has come under continual fire for his treatment of key players and his position is not safe by any means.

With speculation over the future of Avram Grant at Chelsea, Rijkaard could end up at Stamford Bridge next season, which would be a step in the right direction for many of the Barca fans who have booed their boss' decisions in recent games.

For Rijkaard himself, a move out of the Barca hotseat wouldn't be the worst move for his career. There is a feeling that he is stagnating in his current role and taking his attacking football philosophy to England could enhance a reputation which would take a blow after another trophyless season.

Even Champions League success this campaign may not save him. With the winds of change ready to blow through the club over the summer, the Catalan hierarchy may feel it's time to cut the cord. They have shown ruthlessness with a declining Ronaldinho and Rijkaard seems likely to follow a host of other names out of the club.

If the board back up their decision by loosening the purse strings as well, a new, youthful, vibrant Barcelona side could be a worrying proposition for the rest of Europe next season. Another year left trailing in the wake of Real Madrid just doesn't bear thinking about for the Catalans.
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