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PRESSURE!
« on: April 22, 2008, 09:00:59 AM »
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PRESSURE!
Central Bank warns of hard times ahead
Curtis Rampersad

Tuesday, April 22nd 2008

Turbulent times: Central Bank Governor Ewart Williams yesterday. -Photo: Dexter Philip
Trinidadians are in for turbulent financial times in the coming months and will pay more for food, goods and services amid the economic menace of escalating inflation.

"There is a very serious threat of double-digit inflation becoming an endemic," in Trinidad and Tobago, as well as countries around the world, Central Bank governor Ewart Williams said yesterday. "The global food crisis threatens price stability and all governments are scared about double-digit inflation."

Headline inflation hit ten per cent in January then fell to 9.4 per cent in February, but domestic inflationary pressures have remained strong and have been compounded by substantial increases in international food prices.

Williams said based on how organisations responded to inflation, it was "very easy" for the country to find itself in a spiral of continued escalating prices as a response to inflation.

He was speaking at the Bank's release of its Monetary Policy Report at the Central Bank tower, Port of Spain.

There are several structural reasons for the continued threat of higher inflation that cannot be easily resolved.

For instance, non-energy tax collections increased between 2003 and 2007, but government expenditure grew twice as fast over the same period.

Government spending is an issue and the Bank has a responsibility to inform the government of its concerns, Williams said, but admitted that as an adviser, the Bank could express its concern but this was not always heeded.

"Sometimes the advice is taken, sometimes it's not," he said.

Excessive consumerism is another factor contributing to higher inflation. Bank credit expansion added to demand pressures and increased more than 22 per cent last year, consumer credit and real estate loans expanded faster than business credit and loans for cars jumped 50 per cent in 2007.

Retail sales also surged by 20 per cent from 2007 and were led by car sales and construction material expenses, highlights of the monetary policy report showed.

Consumer spending may jump again in the coming months as the Royal Bank of Canada's takeover of RBTT Financial Holdings will inject almost $8 billion in cash into the financial system.

A third reason for what could be several months of high food prices is lagging agricultural output in the country, with the sector declining by six per cent last year.

This sluggish performance was caused by low investment, dislocation of Caroni (1975) Ltd and workers moving to other jobs.

Higher import prices also affected food inflation in the country.

Williams said three considerations added to the Bank's view about inflation-the view that food import prices rises were structural and unlikely to be reversed soon; delays in the implementation of Government's new agricultural thrust and a noticeable rise in inflation expectations driven by rising food prices.

"Unless something is done, we are going to be swimming in double-digit inflation," Williams told members of government bodies and the financial and business community.

This may be the time to consider some kind of social compact involving business, labour and government, while long-term measures take root, he said, adding that between the Bank and the government, initiatives to solve the problems could include national budget measures, monetary policy adjustments such as shifting the focus to absorb liquidity and implementing agriculture improvements.

The Bank has increased the repo rate and reserve requirements for commercial banks, thus forcing them to increase lending rates to curb borrowing.

But the situation remains tense for the country.

"Attaining the government's target inflation rate of six per cent by end-2008 will present serious challenges," Williams said. "We are facing a situation that could get out of control, that could easily slip away from us."
"Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority.  The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong.  All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who doubted current moral values, not of men who tried to enforce them."

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Re: PRESSURE!
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2008, 09:02:58 AM »
yeah, some 'commentary' on this topic passing right now on 91.9

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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2008, 09:11:22 AM »
country eh making money is pressure for de poor man..

country making plenty money is pressure for de poor man..
         

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Re: PRESSURE!
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2008, 09:22:54 AM »
heheheh ... juggle this thread versus the fastest growing economy in the W/H thread ...

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2008, 09:07:19 PM »
D poor will always b with us.
Today you're the dog, tomorrow you're the hydrant - so be good to others - it comes back!"

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 04:58:19 AM »
heheheh ... juggle this thread versus the fastest growing economy in the W/H thread ...

So why dey have so many poor people in London and New York...notice ah eh even have tuh mention de entire nations eh, jes two major cities...jes two.

Juggle dat if yuh cyar hold it.

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 08:53:33 AM »
My comment was directed at the paradox of the 'same' economy' manifesting differently and the paradoxical frame/excitement of some of the comments rendered in the fastest economy thread versus the revelations of this thread. 

As you yuhself contributed in response to superoli's comment regarding wealth distribution on the other thread ... 'the two are not [necessarily: (my word)] mutually exclusive'.

Recognising that there are paradoxes within the reality that are not necessarily contradictory, ah was jes wondering aloud about the paradox.

Juggle? Juxtapose? Balance? Compare/contrast? JUSTIFY?

One of the features of the local economy mentioned by de Guvnor relates to consumer spending ... excessive consumerism ... [as he mentioned de fact that advice need not be heeded]

If it was simply about jes poverty per se ... consumer spending would be a footnote.

The spectrum runs the gamut of wealth distribution, poverty [alleviation], government [mis]spending, [mis]management, direct investment, personal savings ratios ... price stability to a component of which is my old friend political stability.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 09:06:10 AM »
i agree with our esteemed word smith.
consumerism is a curse. spending for spending sake. poor poeple in trinidad..as elsewhere so like ot lok nice and compete wiht the jones' that they often get caught up in wants.
i not saying it isnt hard, what i am saying is.....they aiding thier own problems.

 with most of the growing economies of the world like china and india and trini , it seems that the growing divison betwene the richand poo growing.
rich can afford to go trotters every night or jennys for dinner while(even though they dont have to) de poor have to see what they can eek out sometimes.
everyone complaining bout high food prices but it only really affecting the poor.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 09:31:58 AM »
Two days in a  row now ah hearing policy ppl on radio lambasting gov't for not having an [effective] agricultural policy ... steups ... is 2008 and dis is a topic at issue?

Certain things are out of one's control but price instability - especially as concerns staples ... shouldn't be offering paralysis  ... we have long known the context of the global environment in which our local economy operates ... ah want to read/listen to Peter Taylor in entirety first eh BUT this is a conversation had in the 90s after the last gulf war ...

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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 09:40:03 AM »
Two days in a  row now ah hearing policy ppl on radio lambasting gov't for not having an [effective] agricultural policy ... steups ... is 2008 and dis is a topic at issue?

Certain things are out of one's control but price instability - especially as concerns staples ... shouldn't be offering paralysis  ... we have long known the context of the global environment in which our local economy operates ... ah want to read/listen to Peter Taylor in entirety first eh BUT this is a conversation had in the 90s after the last gulf war ...
somethings are, but investing in agriculture is nothing bad is it? maybe it can help no? jus asking...
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2008, 09:59:44 AM »
I think 'agriculture' is an area where lip service is rampant ... either be committed or not, but don't make a mockery of it ... the scales already tipped

agricultural policy? niche markets needed and even if local consumption is the focus that's still not a fix ...

Read an article a few days ago about a Bajan farmer who had so many tomatoes or onions that he had to give them away or dump them because he couldn't sell them locallly ... both this year and last year

About 3 weeks ago the NYT or AP ran a story about how Mexican farmers have diversified into avocadoes (apparently the palates of North Americans have shifted in conjunction with the movement of Mexican immigrants North) ...

Here's a sentence I never anticipated writng in my life Ever ... money can be made from zabocca ... but same speed the ride's time horizon is limited by the fact that US farmers are recognising the steal and gehhin in fast (who yuh think dey using for labour and an understanding of how to grow zabocca?)

Money in zabocca so big that some mexicans have moved south to turn around and export back to gringos.

iz a very vulnerable sector with a lot of protectionism ... marry that with poor planning and well yuh done know ...

I like to separate a food policy from an agricultural policy. I don't see them as one and the same.

 
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2008, 10:03:37 AM »
so much planting going on in T&T and allyuh complaining.

Iron plant, aluminum plant, oil plant, gas plant, paint plant

a-a

maybe the real answer lies in socialism?

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 10:09:35 AM »
So wid all a dat planting why dey jes doh come frankomeh and say ... psst, bun a fire on agriculture



ah know, dey eh go like de forest fire dat cause :rotfl:

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 10:17:06 AM »
what forest?  if dey cut down de forest tuh start planting.....

truth is who de arse going and plant dem garden boy?

We go have tuh make dem huge farms, fully automated and I jes doh see we having de arable land to do dat on any valid scale.

especially since some ah de best land in T&T fuh planting was in woodbrook, diego, and POS

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 10:28:20 AM »
so yuh socialism question hadda deal with pulling a Chavez and nationalise? every now and again ah notice you bring that word up ...

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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2008, 10:32:58 AM »
seems like what the posters here want.

State ah emergency, nationalized farms, force people tuh save..etc.

what you think?

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2008, 10:36:55 AM »
ah go leave dat fuh you and *ahem* DavidAbdullah to hash out.

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2008, 10:37:59 AM »
... forgot the obligatory smiley. ;D

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2008, 10:57:33 AM »
ah go leave dat fuh you and *ahem* DavidAbdullah to hash out.

yuh know em and david was tight eh?  lol

Aberdeen and Clive too....not to mention Joe Young.

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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2008, 01:40:08 PM »
heheheh ... juggle this thread versus the fastest growing economy in the W/H thread ...

Is not only now he talking that "sky is falling" nonsense.

 

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