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Re: Rowley Vote Of No Confidence
« Reply #180 on: March 06, 2012, 09:39:51 AM »
Like all the PP PR getting to more people than I expected.  That American fella who Warner hired to help with the PP election campaign coached them good.  Lessons learnt were to look for the enemy's weak-spots and exploit them...let everyone know about them time and time again.  Even well into your rule...keep letting the public know your enemy's weak-spots....highlight them with every chance you get.

The PR was/is so good that everybody just forget about the corruption and nonsense that passing for governance in this country.  They keep allowing that to slide...and what they do instead...blame it on the Opposition...more so it's leader.

I don't even want to ask the questions...if not Rowley, who in the PNM today could be more effective ?

My thing today is that as citizens WE ALL have to find some way to display our displeasure at how the govt running the country.  WE the electorate voted a govt in place...by a vast majority too, but when the shit hit the fan, WE blaming the Opposition Leader for the how the govt conducting business.

The Opposition try a strategy in a vote on no-confidence...one of the few weapons in their arsenal and yuh hearing about the timing, bombshells, in-fighting, is a lost cause anyway etc.  Non of the questions were given satisfactory responses except for more propaganda and malaising about what the former administration did in their term...still no account for what the present administration doing.

In the meantime...we sit back and accept that a govt minister could totally disregard the court of law in T&T with no objection from the PM.  Another govt minister (btw who was acting PM at one time) could use the tax-payers' credit card as her own personal bank...and other cases of missteps and maladministration and pass it off that the Opposition Leader too weak.  Keep focusing on the opposition leader...and that will bring us good governance. We really in a sad state.
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Re: Rowley Vote Of No Confidence
« Reply #181 on: March 06, 2012, 09:54:45 AM »
Pardners :Non of the questions were given satisfactory responses except for more propaganda and malaising about what the former administration did in their term...still no account for what the present administration doing .

Exactly what you are saying there is what the speaker of the house wade mark  allow the gov amendment to do with the debate. 

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Re: Rowley Vote Of No Confidence
« Reply #182 on: March 06, 2012, 07:10:21 PM »
I look at is this way, Manning, Panday even Robbie would ah take their members and walk right out d chamber if they were in opposition and d government decided to pull a fas one and change d motion and knowing the speaker will allow it.

That would have been the kind of demonstration of leadership stronger than any debate that lasted 24 hours. No strong leader would have allowed that kind of motion to be derailed by in my opinion a strategic and direct character assassination exercise.

Unfortunately the nature of TT politics where anybody aspiring for leadership is considered a threat to the incumbent  and is politically marginalized, this results in a distinct lack of leadership options which is what the PNM is facing. If not Rowley then who else? Amery Browne reportedly went cummotto and hide for 2 days after d last election cause he didn't want to be leader, a waste of time. Rowley has been in the politics game for more than two decades, i thought he would have had more savvy than that.

Lee Sing may have been right in his assessment but the timing of his communication, whether it be a month or a day before debate should ah keep his tail quiet. This is T&T, it eh have nothing as far as i am concerned as a private political letter and he would be naive to think that. As meh granny used to say, it have a time and place for everything. He could have taken his leader to task in any post mortem forum available given the outcome. Now he surely going to suffer the usual political fate of the dissenting voice.

All of this while the government continues to mismanage the nation's affairs. The only entity i seeing that actually wining battles with the gov't is the OWTU, i see they mandating the MSJ to pull out of the partnership or face defection from the movement, and i sure other unions will follow.
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Re: Rowley Vote Of No Confidence
« Reply #183 on: March 06, 2012, 08:48:30 PM »
Again I don't feel Rowley fail there would be fallout from that debate, although the PP government was successful with their amendment .

Words are very powerful, although  things did not go the way we thought it should , it might create some cracks that would take some time for us to see.

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Dr Keith Rowley Thread.
« Reply #184 on: March 13, 2012, 08:45:49 AM »
Govt spied on Rowley

http://www.tntmirror.com/2012/03/04/govt-spied-on-rowley

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Used phone taps to defuse ‘bomb’

ON the eve of the Opposition’s vote of no confidence motion against Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, the Peoples Partnership government enhanced its intelligence-gathering services, including telephone wiretaps and interception of communications along with emails and GPS info on cell-phones in an effort to diffuse any political threat to the PM.

This, as national security insiders confirmed that the government has been quietly upgrading its intercept equipment at a cost of US$ 3 million (TT$ 20 million) with the guidance of Israeli technicians and American firm Verint which specialises in interception technology. They are currently in the country and are said to be spearheading the installation of intercept equipment at State-owned TSTT.

Mirror has also received proof that the interception of communication by the Persad-Bissessar led government extends to journalists as well as politicians, a move which runs contra to the Interception of Communication Act, which was passed in the Parliament in 2010 to legalise the State’s use of intercept equipment.

Mirror investigations reveal that while this new upgrade equipment was purchased under the previous Manning administration the final payments, were made by the Peoples Partnership.

It was not so long ago, when she assumed office in May 2010, that the Prime Minister exposed in the Parliament, the questionable actions of then Prime Minister Patrick Manning whom she accused of using the Security Intelligence Agency (SIA) and the Special Anti Crime Unit (SAUTT) to engage in illegal wiretapping of a number of people in the country including journalists and trade unionists.

Mirror was also reliably informed that the intercept equipment was used to gather information about what ‘political bombs’ Opposition Leader, Dr. Keith Rowley was likely to bring to the House, during Friday’s debate on the vote of no-confidence against the PM.

Leader of Government Business Dr. Roodal Moonilal, for example, in responding to Opposition Leader Dr. Keith Rowley in the House of Representatives on Friday, said the Government had prior knowledge that Rowley would be bringing charges of misuse of the government’s credit card against Tobago Development Minister Vernella Alleyne-Toppin. He did not, however, say how the Government came by the information.

Mirror’s source disclosed that the “Israeli technicians are here periodically, but they are here now with a view to delivering by the end of next month.” The source could not say whether the Government officials were aware that the information being provided to them were coming from illegal wiretaps.

According to the source, the spyware technicians first met with Attorney General Anand Ramlogan in 2011 and have been in contact with him and other national security government officials for some time over the procurement of the equipment which forms part of the legitimate National Security apparatus.

The issue of spyware equipment from the Israeli government shot into the spotlight following Prime Manning’s visit to Israel and meeting with then Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in November 2005.

National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister, Gary Griffith, would not refute or confirm Mirror’s information when contacted on the matter.

He would only say, “Anything pertaining to intelligence, I am unable to comment on.”
[True talk yes....]
Questioned as to the use of the Israeli technicians and the upgrade intercept equipment to garner information about the debate, he said, “….such matters are highly sensitive and I cannot comment.”

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Re: Govt spied on Rowley
« Reply #185 on: March 13, 2012, 10:52:47 AM »
http://www.tntmirror.com/2012/03/04/govt-spied-on-rowley

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Used phone taps to defuse ‘bomb’

ON the eve of the Opposition’s vote of no confidence motion against Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, the Peoples Partnership government enhanced its intelligence-gathering services, including telephone wiretaps and interception of communications along with emails and GPS info on cell-phones in an effort to diffuse any political threat to the PM.

This, as national security insiders confirmed that the government has been quietly upgrading its intercept equipment at a cost of US$ 3 million (TT$ 20 million) with the guidance of Israeli technicians and American firm Verint which specialises in interception technology. They are currently in the country and are said to be spearheading the installation of intercept equipment at State-owned TSTT.

Mirror has also received proof that the interception of communication by the Persad-Bissessar led government extends to journalists as well as politicians, a move which runs contra to the Interception of Communication Act, which was passed in the Parliament in 2010 to legalise the State’s use of intercept equipment.

Mirror investigations reveal that while this new upgrade equipment was purchased under the previous Manning administration the final payments, were made by the Peoples Partnership.

It was not so long ago, when she assumed office in May 2010, that the Prime Minister exposed in the Parliament, the questionable actions of then Prime Minister Patrick Manning whom she accused of using the Security Intelligence Agency (SIA) and the Special Anti Crime Unit (SAUTT) to engage in illegal wiretapping of a number of people in the country including journalists and trade unionists.

Mirror was also reliably informed that the intercept equipment was used to gather information about what ‘political bombs’ Opposition Leader, Dr. Keith Rowley was likely to bring to the House, during Friday’s debate on the vote of no-confidence against the PM.

Leader of Government Business Dr. Roodal Moonilal, for example, in responding to Opposition Leader Dr. Keith Rowley in the House of Representatives on Friday, said the Government had prior knowledge that Rowley would be bringing charges of misuse of the government’s credit card against Tobago Development Minister Vernella Alleyne-Toppin. He did not, however, say how the Government came by the information.

Mirror’s source disclosed that the “Israeli technicians are here periodically, but they are here now with a view to delivering by the end of next month.” The source could not say whether the Government officials were aware that the information being provided to them were coming from illegal wiretaps.

According to the source, the spyware technicians first met with Attorney General Anand Ramlogan in 2011 and have been in contact with him and other national security government officials for some time over the procurement of the equipment which forms part of the legitimate National Security apparatus.

The issue of spyware equipment from the Israeli government shot into the spotlight following Prime Manning’s visit to Israel and meeting with then Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in November 2005.

National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister, Gary Griffith, would not refute or confirm Mirror’s information when contacted on the matter.

He would only say, “Anything pertaining to intelligence, I am unable to comment on.”
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Questioned as to the use of the Israeli technicians and the upgrade intercept equipment to garner information about the debate, he said, “….such matters are highly sensitive and I cannot comment.”

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« Reply #186 on: May 01, 2012, 07:06:14 AM »
Rowley to take PM to Integrity Commission over sister
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Rowley_to_take_PM_to_Integrity_Commission_over_sister-149601855.html

By Ria Taitt Political Editor
April 30, 2012
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley yesterday announced that the issue of the $866,000 of public funds spent on the travels of the Prime Minister's sister, Vidwatie Newton, is to be referred to the Integrity Commission.

Rowley also stated the People's National Movement (PNM) would only support the complete, not partial, withdrawal from the Privy Council as this country's final court of appeal. He was speaking at the Opposition Leader's office in Port of Spain.

"We call on the Government not to cast its position in stone, especially a position arrived at with such flippancy, designed to replace a headline about travel of an assistant (Newton)," he said.

"If it took an $800,000 expense to have given birth to the ending of the Privy Council, it might have been money well spent," he quipped.

However, he stressed: "We will settle for nothing less than a complete break—removing both criminal and civil authority from the Privy Council to the Caribbean Court of Justice and making the CCJ our court of appeal and we would confront every political obstacle between there and here.

"Once the bill comes without the albatross that is on the neck of the current proposal, the PNM's support is guaranteed. If on the other hand, they (the Government) choose to go by referendum, the PNM will take full part in it and as aggressively as we can ... would ensure that the population is encouraged to vote 'yes' to the removal of our final court of appeal (i.e. the Privy Council)," he said.

However, he said the PNM felt a referendum being called for by the Congress of the People, was unnecessary. "There can be no referendum that can be more effective than a general election," he said.

He said the country now had three positions —the UNC, COP and PNM positions—the last of which was the most sensible.

He said the PNM was advised the phased withdrawal was not feasible, lawful or workable. He also noted statements of former attorney general Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj that a previous government attempted to have a partial withdrawal and was informed by the British government it would not hold on to civil responsibility while ceding criminal responsibility.

On the issue of Newton, Rowley said the matter would be referred to the Integrity Commission "so that the Commission can determine after its own investigation whether this $800,000 was properly spent with the proper authority. We will advance the questions, answers and the public utterances (of the Prime Minister on the matter)."

He also lamented that public officers, namely the Permanent Secretary to the Prime Minister, was now out in front "seeking to provide a palatable explanation to what we call political abuse of public funds".

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Re: Rowley to take PM to Integrity Commission over sister
« Reply #187 on: May 02, 2012, 05:57:59 AM »
PM for Integrity Commission: 'Rowley playing politics'
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/PM_for_Integrity_Commission___Rowley_playing_politics_-149769605.html

May 1, 2012
Minister of Government Business Dr Roodal Moonilal yesterday said he was "disappointed" in Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley's decision to take Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar before the Integrity Commission.

Speaking with reporters outside the soon-to-be-rejuvenated PanTrinbago site in Trincity yesterday, Moonilal accused Rowley of "playing politics" and called on him to stop dealing with "nonsensical" issues.

"He knows or he ought to know because he has been in Cabinet for over ten years. Cabinet takes a decision in terms of a delegation travelling. Cabinet can approve any delegation with anyone and properly authorise expenditure," he said.

Moonilal said that "won't get anywhere".

He said Rowley referred to the issue as a legal issue, but he should know Cabinet can approve travelling for anyone, even people within the private sector.

"Look the trade unionists are going to the ILO (International Labour Organisation) in June. We have to approve their expenditure and send a member of the trade union movement. Cabinet has the authority to do that," he said.

He said Rowley announced his decision to take Persad-Bissessar before the Integrity Commission, even though he knows Cabinet could approve expenditure for anyone in a delegation.

"Dr Rowley should get some more serious matters to address at this time," he said.

On Monday, Rowley announced he was taking Persad-Bissessar before the Integrity Commission to answer why $866,000 in public funds was spent on travel for her sister, Vidwatie Newton. See Page 18.

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« Reply #188 on: September 17, 2012, 08:18:47 AM »
Rowley must resign

Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Rowley_must_resign-169988026.html
By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com
September 16, 2012

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has repeated his call for the resignation of Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

Asked to comment last night on Rowley's plan to march tomorrow from the Red House on St Vincent Street to President's House, around the Queen's Park Savannah against Government's proclamation of Section 34 of the Administration of Justice (Indictable Proceedings) Act, Ramlogan said Rowley needs to explain to the people why he supported the legislation.

Rowley, he said, is trying to deflect attention from the fact that he led the PNM in voting for Section 34 in both the Upper and Lower House.

"He has failed to clarify and answer questions regarding his rationale for voting for Section 34. whether it was proclaimed by itself or as part of the entire Act in one go, the undisputable fact is accused persons with pending cases would have been able to make application and walk free," said Ramlogan.

"This would have been so whenever the law he voted for was proclaimed. He seeks to divert attention from the PNM support for this crucial limitation on criminal prosecution. I therefore call upon him to do a separate petition explaining why he supported such a measure whether he consulted the PNM membership on same," he added.

He said Rowley cannot "blow hot and cold" at the same time.

"He ought properly therefore to do the decent thing and resign as Opposition Leader on account of his unexplained flip flop. The nation is yet to hear why he passed a law that will allow accused persons to walk free without facing trial," said Ramlogan.

Questioned on Rowley's call for a new Attorney General to preside over the legal matters involving businessmen Steve Ferguson and Ishwar Galbaransingh, Ramlogan responded: "All criminal prosecutions are under the sole discretion and control of the DPP, so this call demonstrates his lack of understanding of the constitutional role and responsibility of these two offices."

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« Reply #189 on: September 17, 2012, 08:43:36 AM »
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« Reply #190 on: March 20, 2014, 06:06:53 PM »
Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
Published: Thursday, March 20, 2014 (T&T Guardian)
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If Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley becomes Prime Minister, then students who are prone to violent behaviour could see themselves being removed from the school system and placed in an environment akin to a “boot camp” where they can be properly controlled.
 
Declaring that a People’s National Movement (PNM) government would declare zero tolerance on school violence, Rowley outlined that at an internal election campaign meeting in Palo Seco on Tuesday as one of his party’s strategies to deal with students who were disruptive and put others at risk. He added: “We are prepared to identify the problem and to take action to solve it.
 
 
“The time for talk and niceties has passed. If you cannot behave in the school system then you forfeit your right to be there. You have invited yourself into another system.” Referring to the public brawl between girls at the Mucurapo West Secondary School, ten of whom have since been suspended, Rowley asked when the violence would end. “I am hearing tonight, from the mother of a child who was on the ground, this has been going on for two years.
 
“When is it supposed to end and how is it supposed to end? When one of them bring a little knife or something in school, or a divider or something and the next thing we hear is murder number 110 is one child stab the other child because the system turned a blind eye to something that is chronic. “We will have to intervene and the intervention comes under the banner of zero tolerance to violence in our school system,” he said.
 
Rowley reminded his audience that one of the slogans of the PNM’s founding father, the late Dr Eric Williams, was: “To educate is to liberate.” He told supporters from the La Brea and bordering constituencies: “Let us not lose sight of this fact that the strength of this country going forward is based on the soundness of our education system. We must no longer allow ourselves to tinker with it.”
 
Saying he was appalled at the behaviour, Rowley said he would like to see a system where that kind of behaviour deprives the violent students of the opportunity they were abusing. He added: “You should be extracted from the environment where you are misbehaving and put into another environment where you are being prepared to give up that kind of life you want to embark upon.” For this to happen, Rowley said, there must be special educational facilities along with special teachers to manage them.
 
“The next PNM government will detail zero tolerance of violence in our secondary schools, zero tolerance of any violence in our school system, and that means we will have to prepare special educational facilities for special children. “Special children are not only the ones who don’t see well, who don’t hear well and who don’t walk well. Children who can’t behave well are also special children,” he said.
 
Rowley said with people demanding a right to misbehave, if a solution is not found, then the Education and National Security Ministries would continue to be a drain on the Treasury.

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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #191 on: March 20, 2014, 06:27:22 PM »
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“The time for talk and niceties has passed. If you cannot behave in the school system then you forfeit your right to be there. You have invited yourself into another system.” Referring to the public brawl between girls at the Mucurapo West Secondary School, ten of whom have since been suspended, Rowley asked when the violence would end. “I am hearing tonight, from the mother of a child who was on the ground, this has been going on for two years.

Is this the incident that was condemned because adult bystanders did not intervene?
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Think of the 2022 conversation regarding reparations as the item tabled for future discussion when initially raised for negotiation during talks in 1834. A lot of intere$t has accrued.

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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #192 on: March 20, 2014, 06:50:22 PM »
Love this idea.

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« Reply #193 on: March 20, 2014, 09:26:17 PM »
Love this idea.


I agree, but I hope this not just another election promise.

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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #194 on: March 20, 2014, 09:36:04 PM »
Boot camp for what? This is a country where minister could "feel up" a flight attendant and then threaten her because he was too drunk to know better. The children and they have no role models in society. You segregate them after age 11 and put them in a set of "reject" schools. Make it known to them that they not going any college or convent and that they'll never amount to anything. Add to this is the fact that these schools are located in some depressed and dangerous areas where these children originate from. People really shock that these children are that angry and lashing out. Steupss...The day the higher ups start putting their children in these "reject" schools is the day all those schools will start to perform and create model citizens.

Before he put them in boot camp why doesn't he ensure that the child has everything needed to succeed. Some of these children don't even have a meal to eat when they get home. He wants to help these children, help raise the minimum wage that their parents are "earning." Give the parents more protection against employers so that they could get home in time and not be out trying to earn a living at some crazy hours resulting in their children being left unsupervised.

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« Reply #195 on: March 21, 2014, 06:31:39 AM »
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“The time for talk and niceties has passed. If you cannot behave in the school system then you forfeit your right to be there. You have invited yourself into another system.” Referring to the public brawl between girls at the Mucurapo West Secondary School, ten of whom have since been suspended, Rowley asked when the violence would end. “I am hearing tonight, from the mother of a child who was on the ground, this has been going on for two years.

Is this the incident that was condemned because adult bystanders did not intervene?

This was a more recent incident........


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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #196 on: March 21, 2014, 06:41:35 AM »
Thx! The only amusing item here is the reporter mentioning an "unidentified school".
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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #197 on: March 21, 2014, 10:27:36 AM »
Boot camp for what? This is a country where minister could "feel up" a flight attendant and then threaten her because he was too drunk to know better. The children and they have no role models in society. You segregate them after age 11 and put them in a set of "reject" schools. Make it known to them that they not going any college or convent and that they'll never amount to anything. Add to this is the fact that these schools are located in some depressed and dangerous areas where these children originate from. People really shock that these children are that angry and lashing out. Steupss...The day the higher ups start putting their children in these "reject" schools is the day all those schools will start to perform and create model citizens.

Before he put them in boot camp why doesn't he ensure that the child has everything needed to succeed. Some of these children don't even have a meal to eat when they get home. He wants to help these children, help raise the minimum wage that their parents are "earning." Give the parents more protection against employers so that they could get home in time and not be out trying to earn a living at some crazy hours resulting in their children being left unsupervised.

Valid points.




Re: role models. It's a shame that a lot of these kids can't even look at home for such. Start with the home and you'll see that everything else will fall into place.

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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #198 on: March 21, 2014, 12:03:26 PM »
They have to start with in-school suspension, them move to alternative schooling. To get this going they need to address


Teacher responsibility -
- Teacher who just come to school and go through the motion will no longer be tolerated.
- Constant evaluation by state education evaluators.
- 3 years probation for all new teachers.
- Bonus for school and individual teacher on student performance achievement. Which will introduce national standardize tests.
- The independent end of term test coupled with a national test will allow for consistent school evaluation across the board.



The school lunch program will be a great step in helping students to reach their potential. Mal-Nutrition is a major hurdle in classroom behavioral problem. A hungry good kid is more prone to become a hungry kid with behavioral problem.

Parents responsibility
- when a students break the rules punishing parents is a good way to go in regards to role model at home.
- Punishment such as, court order school attendance by the parents with the kids, jail time or community service for the parents, wage garnishment of parents by the state to finance the programs of which their kids with behavioral problems are placed in.


A greater focus on after school programs.
- The government need to invest in long-term after school programs.
- A greater emphasis on school sports participation, academic tutoring, vocational programs etc. ( CCC was a good initiative, Royal Bank Young Leaders Program was another great after school program.)
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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #199 on: March 21, 2014, 12:48:18 PM »
Boot camp for what? This is a country where minister could "feel up" a flight attendant and then threaten her because he was too drunk to know better. The children and they have no role models in society. You segregate them after age 11 and put them in a set of "reject" schools. Make it known to them that they not going any college or convent and that they'll never amount to anything. Add to this is the fact that these schools are located in some depressed and dangerous areas where these children originate from. People really shock that these children are that angry and lashing out. Steupss...The day the higher ups start putting their children in these "reject" schools is the day all those schools will start to perform and create model citizens.

Before he put them in boot camp why doesn't he ensure that the child has everything needed to succeed. Some of these children don't even have a meal to eat when they get home. He wants to help these children, help raise the minimum wage that their parents are "earning." Give the parents more protection against employers so that they could get home in time and not be out trying to earn a living at some crazy hours resulting in their children being left unsupervised.
Good points but he can only deal with those other points you raised if his party is in power.
Those points that you raised need to be directed to the current party that is in power and if they are not addressing those points you raised then you have to ask, why not?
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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #200 on: March 21, 2014, 02:21:24 PM »
Ofcourse. This rant wasn't directed at him per se. More to those on top. All the talk about boot camp sounds nice on paper but the fact remains that these schools are producing disruptive individuals and have been for a couple of years. They need take a closer look at the system. Corruption is killing this country and driving it over a cliff.

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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #201 on: March 21, 2014, 02:24:12 PM »
Ofcourse. This rant wasn't directed at him per se. More to those on top. All the talk about boot camp sounds nice on paper but the fact remains that these schools are producing disruptive individuals and have been for a couple of years. They need take a closer look at the system. Corruption is killing this country and driving it over a cliff.
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Re: Rowley plans boot camps for ‘bad’ students
« Reply #202 on: March 22, 2014, 02:45:09 AM »
Funny how life plays itself out. A couple of weeks ago a boy carries a knife into Presentation and attempts to murder another student. All sorts of excuses were used to protect this boy from any sort of action. They didn't even want to suspend him for fear of tarnishing his record. A group of girls brawl after school hours and the entire nation decides to vilify them. Nine were suspended swiftly and there's even talk about criminal charges. Who cares if this will affect them in the future right. They are considered lost causes anyway. Every creed and race find and equal place except if ur poor or ur head hard and picky.
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Dr Keith Rowley Thread.
« Reply #203 on: July 18, 2014, 04:04:47 PM »
Opposition Leader 'Keith Rowley' on racism in T&T politics.

This was interesting. Watch from about the 6:00 to 10:00 minute mark of the video.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/8toox4uksSA&amp;list=UUrlJgJtRxdei1cxg-0CLcFA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/8toox4uksSA&amp;list=UUrlJgJtRxdei1cxg-0CLcFA</a>
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Re: Opposition Leader 'Keith Rowley' talks racism in T&T politics.
« Reply #204 on: July 18, 2014, 04:13:31 PM »
finally figured out the embedding tricks to get a video published correctly  :-[

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Re: Opposition Leader 'Keith Rowley' on racism in T&T politics.
« Reply #205 on: July 18, 2014, 06:13:35 PM »
Without getting into the politics..the child he's talking bout is actually my father's 1st cousin Rita Courtney nee Sammy from Marabella..not Penal.
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Re: Opposition Leader 'Keith Rowley' on racism in T&T politics.
« Reply #206 on: July 19, 2014, 08:20:27 AM »
Without getting into the politics..the child he's talking bout is actually my father's 1st cousin Rita Courtney nee Sammy from Marabella..not Penal.


so is he lying???? ???

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Re: Opposition Leader 'Keith Rowley' on racism in T&T politics.
« Reply #207 on: July 19, 2014, 08:26:20 PM »
Ah mean it's possible he (Rowley) was told when he was a child that his Grandfather wife found the child in Penal.
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Re: Opposition Leader 'Keith Rowley' on racism in T&T politics.
« Reply #208 on: July 20, 2014, 09:13:50 AM »
I think he's being disingenuously emphasizing his point by bringing Penal into it.
Penal is more associated with Indian if you get my drift.
Saying Point Fortin, wouldn't even be close to have the desired effect.
Sando right when it comes to what he was told and who could remember exact facts.

Even though he was born maybe 20 years after, my father said Auntie Bessie and Auntie Rita were hiding in the forest down south when Kali was looking to shoot them lol.
Same shit happen to my grandparents but my grandfather (Spanish Chinee) stood up to him. My grandmother was 13-14 when she got knocked up by my 24 yr old grandfather lol.
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Re: Opposition Leader 'Keith Rowley' on racism in T&T politics.
« Reply #209 on: July 20, 2014, 11:17:25 AM »
when she got knocked up

Feliz, how you crude so. So your grandpa is/was due some jail time?