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W/Cup bonus judgment next week.
« on: May 01, 2008, 05:32:37 AM »
W/Cup bonus judgment next week.
By: Lasana Liburd (Express).


Decision delayed.

The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF) and 16 of their 2006 World Cup players must wait until next week for judgment in their wrangle over commercial revenue earned from the "Soca Warriors" historic qualification for the FIFA showcase tournament.

The third and final day of the arbitration hearing for the Warriors and the T&TFF ended yesterday in London with legal representatives for either side taking two hours each to summarise their positions before arbitrator, Ian Mill QC.

The 16 players and the T&TFF allegedly agreed, in early 2006, to split 50 per cent of all income accrued from the team's participation in the prestigious Germany-based tournament.

However, the Warriors contested the validity of the T&TFF's accounting and their decision to deduct expenses prior to offering payment and, after contemplating a suit in civil court, accepted their employers' request to seek justice before the London-based Sport Dispute Resolution Panel.

Ex-West Ham player and ESPN commentator Shaka Hislop, Southampton striker Stern John, Gillingham goalkeeper Kelvin Jack and Ross County defender Brent Sancho appeared as witnesses for the players while the T&TFF did not offer any witness.

English barrister William McCormack SC and local lawyers Om Lalla and Kelvin Ramkissoon represented the T&TFF. The local football organising body argued that talks between their special advisor and FIFA vice-president Jack Warner and the players never reached a level of certainty required by law to become a legal contract.

McCormack also suggested the players superceded all previous financial discussions when they signed a FIFA participation agreement, before the tournament, that did not adequately address their commercial concerns.

The players, represented by the English legal team of Rupert Butler SC and Michael Townley, countered that they did receive a contract-albeit an oral one-which had nothing to do with the standard FIFA participation contract signed by all guest nations. Legal representatives for either side requested a detailed written award from Mill, which is likely to come next week.
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Soca Warriors, TTFF to face T&T Courts
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 11:11:38 PM »
Soca Warriors, TTFF to face T&T Courts
By: Francis Joseph (Trinidad Guardian)


The money dispute involving members of the 2006 Soca Warriors team and the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) is shifting gears from London to the Port-of-Spain High Court. The TTFF, the Guardian learnt, is no longer interested in arbitration proceedings in London. So, the TTFF, through its lawyers, have petitioned the local court seeking to have the money dispute settled in Trinidad. The matter was called before Justice Gregory Smith in the Port-of-Spain High Court on Wednesday. There is an application from the TTFF to lift an order which had prevented the local High Court from hearing the money dispute until the conclusion of arbitration proceedings in London.

The local football association said it was no longer interested in the London proceedings because lawyers representing the 16 players breached the confidentiality clause last year in comments made to a local newspaper and to other international media houses, after the T&T Guardian had exclusively published the judgment of the arbitrator. Hearing of the application to remove the order has been put to June 16. The postponement of the application further delays the attempt by the players to recover money they claim are due to them as a result of the 2006 World Cup campaign. It will be heard in the middle of the Soca Warriors campaign for South Africa 2010.

On May 18, 2008, British arbitrator Ian Mill QC ruled that the Soca Warriors were entitled to 50 per cent of the profits of the TTFF derived from the Road to Germany campaign. But the proceedings never progressed because of the comments made after the ruling. The dispute between the players and the TTFF which had its genesis in 2004 when T&T began the World Cup journey to Germany. The players had originally agreed to 30 percent of the net profts, but that was changed to 50 percent following meetings with the TTFF and its special advisor, Jack Warner. According to Mill, the 50 percent was finally agreed upon on June 12, 2006. Both parties had agreed that the hearings would be in private and no one was to disclose the contents of the proceedings or judgment.

The 16 players who took the TTFF to arbitration were, Marvin Andrews, Christopher Birchall, Atiba Charles, Cyd Gray, Ian Cox, Cornell Glen, Shaka Hislop, Avery John, Stern John, Kenwyne Jones, Kelvin Jack, Collin Samuel, Brent Sancho, Aurtis Whitley, Evans Wise and Anthony Wolfe. Representing the players were British attorneys Rupert Butler and Mike Townley, while Englishman William Mc Commick assisted by Trinidad lawyers Om Lalla and Kelvin Ramkissoon appeared for the TTFF. The players contended that after T&T defeated Bahrain 2-1 to qualify for the World Cup Finals, the TTFF received US$5.6 million from Fifa. As a result, the players argued that there was an inevitable commercial spin in that sponsors paid large sums of money to be associated with any of the teams reaching the finals.

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High Court backs payments for Soca Warriors: ...TTFF ordered to honour 2006 W/Cup agreement
By Lasana Liburd



Story Updated: Aug 1, 2010 at 1:12 AM ECT

The Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) was accused of time-wasting and ordered by Acting Justice Devindra Rampersad to honour its agreement to pay bonuses to the 2006 World Cup football team, dubbed the "Soca Warriors", and legal costs, which are expected to be in excess of $3 million.

On November 19, 2008, the TTFF filed a stay of proceedings in the High Court that prevented the 16 players—since reduced to 14—from enforcing the judgment of the London-based Sport Dispute Resolution Panel (SDRP), on the grounds a supposed breach of confidentiality by the claimants "severely undermined" the defendants' faith in the SDRP and, as a result, "they no longer agree to be bound by the agreement".

The SDRP ruled on May 19, 2008, due to a contract made by United National Congress (UNC) chairman and TTFF Special Adviser Jack Warner with the players, the Warriors were owed 50 per cent of all 2006 World Cup commercial revenue and declared an immediate independent audit of the local football body's financial books for that period.

On Thursday afternoon, Justice Rampersad dismissed the TTFF's appeal and ruled in favour of the players.

"This court, therefore, finds that the breaches complained of by the defendants," stated Justice Rampersad, "did not go to the root of the arbitration agreement, and in those circumstances, the agreement remains irrevocable in accordance with Section 3 of the Trinidad and Tobago Arbitration Act 1950, which states that, 'an arbitration agreement, unless a contrary intention is expressed therein, shall be irrevocable except by leave of the court and shall have the same effect in all respects as if it had been made an order of the Court'."

The World Cup players who initially filed suit against the TTFF are Marvin Andrews, Shaka Hislop, Kelvin Jack, Atiba Charles, Cyd Gray, Ian Cox, Avery John, Brent Sancho, Chris Birchall, Aurtis Whitley, Collin Samuel, Evans Wise, Anthony Wolfe, Cornell Glen, Kenwyne Jones and Stern John. However, Andrews and Birchall are understood to have subsequently settled privately.

The remaining footballers will request an interim payment of roughly $1.8 million each—their share of the $88 million the T&TFF claimed to receive as World Cup commercial revenue—when the High Court reopens in September before auditors decide the complete figure due.

A Freedom of Information Act request in 2007 suggested the TTFF's earnings are closer to $180 million, exclusive of gate receipts and broadcast and television rights. In October 2006, the TTFF had offered the World Cup players just $5,644 each.

The SDRP ruled in favour of the players while Justice Rampersad dismissed the TTFF's case as frivolous and described the TTFF's conduct in the matter as "troubling".

"It is difficult for this court to understand the defendants' submission," stated Rampersad "…Indeed, as the claimants rightly submit, even in light of their admitted breach, the defendants have failed to advance any proof to the Court in this regard … The post-award disclosures of the award itself would not raise the mischief against which the confidentiality provisions were directed… The surrounding circumstances of the confidentiality obligation very strongly indicate just how otiose the defendants' claim to confidentiality is at this point."

The TTFF was represented in the High Court by Om Lalla, instructed by Kelvin Ramkissoon, while George Hislop—father of World Cup player and ESPN commentator Shaka Hislop—appeared for the players and was instructed by Dave De Peiza.

The players' London-based solicitor Michael Townley was elated.

"I knew we should win, but the length of time it was taking to get the judgment made it all a bit uncertain and nerve-racking," said Townley. "In the end, it was worth the wait …Now, getting paid is the next step, and we recognise that we are dealing with a party who seems determined to carry on regardless of any amount of evidence.

"Nobody forced their hand to enter in an agreement, so at what point will they seek to recognise it?"

Warner could not be reached for comment by telephone yesterday while TTFF president Oliver Camps said he would follow his lawyer's advice and make no comment on the case.

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Next ting men get pay with a government cheque.  :devil:
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High Court backs payments for Soca Warriors: ...TTFF ordered to honour 2006 W/Cup agreement
By Lasana Liburd


On Thursday afternoon, Justice Rampersad dismissed the TTFF's appeal and ruled in favour of the players.


I eh go lie... as much as there was no legal leg for Jack to stand on, given the level ah ratchefee in Trinidad... ah was worried fuh ah second fuh de players sake.  Ah find the court shoulda tack on legal fees, interest and sanction Lalla doh.  What a c**t... waste of court time and resources hearing this meritless bullshit claim. 

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I heard this story on Thursday afternoon, but was awaiting confirmation. Ah guess mih source was good :angel:
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J U D G E M E N T

Now Jack put that in your pipe and smoke it

Dont choke......... on it..... :devil:

Whey the devil day.......

Now pay up.......accountabality ....JACK

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J U D G E M E N T

Now Jack put that in your pipe and smoke it

Dont choke......... on it..... :devil:

Whey the devil day.......

Now pay up.......accountabality ....JACK

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No problem... TTFF broke so Jack go pay Jack and den Jack go pay de players... no problem!!
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The thing is, Jack has made things worse and worse. If he had agreed to pay back in the day, he probably could have paid the guys $50,000 and they would have accepted as they had no idea how much money was raised by TTTF.

He could have settled in 2008, but again chose not to.

Now he is UNC Chairman, Minister of Works and Deputy Prime Minister and this becomes a political issue through no fault of the players.

We know TTTF is broke and this will probably bankrupt them and there should be a forensic audit of their accounts. As I understand it, Ministers have to declare their assets, so Jack can't magically make some money appear. Rowley et al will be watching this with eagle eyes. If Jacks affairs are investigated, it may show some discrepancies in the money used to fund the UNC campaign.

For once, I hope Jacks affairs are squeaky clean because I wouldn't like to see the UNC govt fall because of this.  

My worry is that the whole UNC govt will turn against the players when they have done nothing wrong.

The other issue is that it has now been proved by the court that Jack lied on several occasions during his election campaign when he said that "all but 4 players had settled". Unfortunately, Anil decided to make some false statements too. The press should be attacking these two gentlemen to ask why they made false statements to the electorate and request their resignations. FIFA and CONCACAF should also examine Jacks actions as, by association, he has brought both organisations into disrepute.

Interesting times ahead.

 

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Keep up the fight fellas.  Watch Jack's next move eh people....change the TTFF's name.  The stunt he was trying to pull last year but was stymied in his attempts.

Check ah next ting.  It was said that this judgement was ready since late last year.  I had a hunch that it was deliberately delayed until after the elections so Jackula wouldn't look bad....ah feel mih hunch correct....
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‘Spalksman’ bats for Warner
By DARCEL CHOY Sunday, May 23 2010

SPORTS commentator Anil Roberts yesterday criticised members of the 2006 Soca Warriors football team who played at the World Cup in Germany.

On Friday, the footballers staged a press conference to express their dissatisfaction that bonuses promised to them have not been settled as yet.

At the People’s Partnership Rally at the Aranjuez Savannah yesterday O’Meara/D’Abadie candidate Roberts, known as the “Spalksman” said that from the $82 million that was given to the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation, $44 million was to be allocated should the team reach second round of the World Cup.

“As far I remember we did not score a goal. We did not win a game so they are less than honest,” he said. Roberts said it was passing strange that the players led by goalkeeper Kelvin Jack spoke under a banner which he described as being in “PNM colours.”

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Minister of Sport Anil Roberts was either lied to by Jack about the money owed, or he chose to distort the truth for political reasons. He even had the nerve to state the banner was in PNM colours! These guys were so desperate to win the election.

How can our Minister of Sport, who openly and repeatedly praised the 2006 squad suddenly say the players are less than honest because "we did not score a goal. We did not win a game" ? What does that have to do with a court case?

As Minister of Sport, Roberts should immediately back the players, print an apology to them, launch an investigation into TTTF and Mr Warners involvement in football, suspend all those involved for tarnishing the good name of Trinidad & Tobago and invite all 13 players to a reception to prove the govts support and honour our national heroes.

Their names have been tarnished by this dispute. They have been blacklisted, thus damaging their careers, they have been called greedy, blackmailers and less than honest. It is now Anils job as Sports Minister to right these wrongs and publicly celebrate their contribution to sport and the rights of players to fight for truth. The 10 players who settled should not be invited and Anil should comment on their characters for selling themselves and their team mates out.

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Football supporter, Anil wasn't lied to.  He knows exactly what he is doing....he is just another one of Jack's lapdog.....one free trip to Bahrain and he gone clear.   He KNOWS Jack owes the players, doh get tie up with Anil at all!!!
"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

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Football supporter, Anil wasn't lied to.  He knows exactly what he is doing....he is just another one of Jack's lapdog.....one free trip to Bahrain and he gone clear.   He KNOWS Jack owes the players, doh get tie up with Anil at all!!!

I hear you hon....just trying to be non partisan. Unlike some people, I will only criticise on facts, other than that, I just ask questions that need to be answered!

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The thing is, Jack has made things worse and worse. If he had agreed to pay back in the day, he probably could have paid the guys $50,000 and they would have accepted as they had no idea how much money was raised by TTTF.

He could have settled in 2008, but again chose not to.

Now he is UNC Chairman, Minister of Works and Deputy Prime Minister and this becomes a political issue through no fault of the players.

We know TTTF is broke and this will probably bankrupt them and there should be a forensic audit of their accounts. As I understand it, Ministers have to declare their assets, so Jack can't magically make some money appear. Rowley et al will be watching this with eagle eyes. If Jacks affairs are investigated, it may show some discrepancies in the money used to fund the UNC campaign.

For once, I hope Jacks affairs are squeaky clean because I wouldn't like to see the UNC govt fall because of this.  

My worry is that the whole UNC govt will turn against the players when they have done nothing wrong.

The other issue is that it has now been proved by the court that Jack lied on several occasions during his election campaign when he said that "all but 4 players had settled". Unfortunately, Anil decided to make some false statements too. The press should be attacking these two gentlemen to ask why they made false statements to the electorate and request their resignations. FIFA and CONCACAF should also examine Jacks actions as, by association, he has brought both organisations into disrepute.

Interesting times ahead.
Yes very interesting times ahead!!

Lets see how Jack wiggles himself out of this one!
Wonder if he will be able to find some way to use T&T Taxpayers money to settle up with the players because yuh know he eh paying them from his poscket if he can help it!
Whey de players money gone Jack? Did you spend some of it on the UNC election campaign?!!  ::)
Is time to pay up Jack!! Yuh must stop making promises yuh doh intend to keep especially as yuh is ah minister now! 8)
« Last Edit: August 01, 2010, 09:40:17 AM by Socapro »
De higher a monkey climbs is de less his ass is on de line, if he works for FIFA that is! ;-)

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Eh?? Yuh loss mih Big Mag.... ??? :-\
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"...If yuh clothes tear up
Or yuh shoes burst off,
You could still jump up when music play.
Old lady, young baby, everybody could dingolay...
Dingolay, ay, ay, ay ay,
Dingolay ay, ay, ay..."

RIP Shadow....The legend will live on in music...

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I hope the leaders of the TTFF get removed from Top to bottom.

Mis management to to highest degree.


anything less than a resignation is unacceptable.

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I hope the leaders of the TTFF get removed from Top to bottom.

Removed by whom... themselves?

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I hope the leaders of the TTFF get removed from Top to bottom.

Removed by whom... themselves?

Dem like Hulsie-X, yuh cyah move dem! Just ask Jack if yuh think we joking!  8)
De higher a monkey climbs is de less his ass is on de line, if he works for FIFA that is! ;-)

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dey having so much financial audits these days.Ah hope dey financial audit TTFF.

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Dey may not audit de TTFF....doh dey should.

But think...even if they could......you think Jack care? He have bigger fish to fry.....and 5 years to do it.
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OK so next move appeal to the Court of Appeal and then d Privy Council. So it eh ovah yet but keep d fight up boys. All yuh is real warriors.
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http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/99707534.html

Pay the footballers!  Pay the footballers!  :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
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I waiting fuh Frico, Diamondtrim, YoursTruly and all the others who was bumping dey facking gum about players being greedy and how it was political and how arbirtration not binding and all kinda shit.  Ah want dem to come open dey mouth now.

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dey say Camps had no comment... he ever had a facking comment ??

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Bake n Shark - Who gets the news bout the Women's Under-17 team first?

Bake n Shark - Who gets the Pro League scores first?

Bake n Shark - Who can attest to the fact that the greedy players cannot make a national team again (and most of them have squandered their funds, like Otis Seaton, Anthony Wolfe (who cant win a county council election) and Cyd Gray - imagine a man who got a house from CLICO fighting for a wuk at Ma Pau)?

Bake n Shark - if you wanna be like Rowley and just talk for talking sake, just fork off and reincarnate, for peace sake!

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Bake n Shark - Who can attest to the fact that the greedy players cannot make a national team again (and most of them have squandered their funds, like Otis Seaton, Anthony Wolfe (who cant win a county council election) and Cyd Gray - imagine a man who got a house from CLICO fighting for a wuk at Ma Pau)?

what does this have to do with monies owed for services already rendered?

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Well, didnt they get a $1 million each from Government, as well as money from FIFA for participating in the World Cup? What more they want (for being the fourth-best team in the 2005 CONCACAF Final Round qualifying group)? Blood?

 

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