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Minor League Thread.
« on: March 07, 2008, 03:55:47 PM »
T&T Pro League says no to ‘bandit league’ players.
By: Nigel Simon (Guardian).


he T&T Pro League has taken another bold steps towards protecting its image and that of its participating clubs by taking a decision to punish professional players caught playing in minor leagues competitions.

In the past a number of T&T Pro League and national players have come under fire from their respective coaches for continuously playing in minor league competitions across the country, and with the trend no way near coming to an end, the T&T Pro League and its associated clubs decided that it was time to put their foot down, or more importantly blow the whistle on indiscipline players.

Following a number of meetings and proposals among the league’s board of directors and its chairman, Larry Romany it was unanimously agreed that a common measure needed to be established for all clubs in order to deal with the prevailing problem.

At the end of the meeting it was agreed that offenders would be dismissed from their club with immediate effect and as a result, the implementation of this rule will entitle clubs to release a player from his contract if he is caught playing minor league football.

According to the new rule, when a club cancels a player’s contract for participating in a minor league match the player would also be fined six months wages of which any club wishing to sign him must pay to the league before the player becomes eligible to play for the said club.

Non-contract players will face a minimum sanction of six months before re-entry into the Pro League if caught playing minor league football while they (non-contract player) can continue playing for a minor league team if he so desires.

Should players who are reprimanded be caught a second time they will be brought before the disciplinary committee of the Pro League who would then determine the penalty to be imposed on such a player.

According to Romany, the league sees these measures as being very important to its future growth and development and in ensuring that players understand the importance of professionalism and their role as professionals in taking the game forward.

Contacted yesterday, David John-Williams owner of Vibe CT 105 W Connection, Terry Fenwick, coach of league champions, Clico San Juan Jabloteh and Darryl Mahabir, owner of the Sangre Grande-based North East Stars said that they were all happy with the decision.

A delightful John-Williams said, “I support that move 500 per cent. These players have to realise that they are professionals and they are being paid to play football.

“They are employers of the clubs, and by playing in these minor league competitions, they run the risk of serious injury, and in the process are of no us to the clubs that are paying their salaries.

John-Williams added, ‘It’s time the players understand that the clubs are making a serious investment in them. The players at my club know that if they do play in minor leagues they stand a serious chance of losing their jobs.

Mahabir was also in agreement with the Pro League’s decision and said he felt it should have been done a long time ago.

“Personally I think the Pro League should have implemented this rule a long time ago. It’s time that the players understand that by competing in these minor league’s they are doing more harm than good for the football.

He explained, “If a football fan can get to see our professional players play for free with a minor league club, then they will have no real reason to come out to see them play in the Pro League.”

“The guys have to understand that all teams need to have a strong supporter based which will transfer into good gate receipts and revenue for the clubs which. But if they go about their own way playing in minor league, then the crowds will never show up to watch them play at Pro League matches, because their is a coast attached to it.

Fenwick was much more brief and said, “This is great news for T&T football. The players have to recognise what professionalism really represents.

Brian Williams, coach of United Petrotrin and a former national stand-out with the infamous ‘Strike Squad’ team added, “It’s something I support fully.

“We have to protect the standard of the football in the T&T Pro League and I’m of the view that no player who is attached to a professional club should be involved in minor-league football.

“How can we have players who are running off to go and play minor league football for free, turn around and ask clubs to pay them a monthly salary, he asked.
Minor league offenders to feel the full wrath.
By: Randy Bando (ttproleague).


The Board of the TT Pro League has taken a decision with regard to professional players playing in the minor Leagues.

In August 2007, St Ann’s Rangers midfielder Kerwin Jemmott felt the full wrath when he along with teammates Milton Gomez and Johnny Ortiz Cardona were dismissed by the club for participating in a minor league tournament.

At a meeting of the Board of Directors, it was unanimously agreed that a common measure needs to be established for all clubs in order to deal with the prevailing problem.

It was agreed that fenders would be dismissed from their club with immediate effect. As a result, the implementation of this rule will entitle clubs to release a player from his contract if he is caught playing minor league football.

When a club cancels a player’s contract for participating in a minor league match the player would be fined six months salary of which any club wishing to sign him must pay to the league before the player becomes eligible to play for the said club.

Non-contracted players will face a minimum sanction of six months before re-entry into the pro league if caught playing minor league football. A non-contracted player can continue playing for a minor league team if he so desires.

Second time offenders will be brought before the disciplinary committee of the pro league who would then determine the penalty to be imposed on such a player.

The league sees these measures as important to its future growth and development and in ensuring that players understand the importance of professionalism and their role as professionals in taking the game forward.

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Re: Minor league offenders to feel the full wrath.
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 03:59:24 PM »
I wonder if this is in effect only during the Pro League season, or is it for the duration of the player's contract with the club? In other words, is the player exempt from the rule during the off-season?
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Re: Minor league offenders to feel the full wrath.
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2008, 04:26:38 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2008, 05:17:52 PM »
So men playing pro and still fighting small sweat. Way de rass is dis.......then again the girls does only come out for the passa passa like Big Mag say.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 06:30:49 PM »
What if it is ah PJ tuh do some keep ups during half time?

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 08:15:19 PM »
This will be called the "Hardest Rule"
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2008, 12:13:05 PM »
AT LAST!! this was long overdue,i'm not saying it will save our Football but it will go a long way in doing so,is either our players are Pros or not,this will add a certain amount of respect to the profession,i remember in my time a similar ban was placed on us by the TTFA but it did not stop us from playing and no one was punished for ever doing so,may it's because we did not have the status players now have,i want to applaud the Pro league for taking this bold step in the best interest of enhancing the quality of Football in the country.

As an old school guy Minor league Football will always have a special place in my heart because that's where we learned to play the game,you could play with who ever you want to play with,on any team you want too,play in areas you normally would not go into,play in any league any time(no restrictions),no Coach to ball behind you,experiment how much you want,weather you good or not have a good time,at the end of the day in some cases get a cutass when you reach home,at the end of the day some of the best memories one will ever have in Football is in the Minor leagues.

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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2008, 12:22:26 PM »
This will be called the "Hardest Rule"

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2008, 12:25:22 PM »
I for one enjoyed 'Pro' players playing Minor league...other players does respect them enough to tackle fairly but they does keep them on their toes...But I mean is a step in the right direction

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2008, 05:00:08 AM »
New era for minor football leagues
Trinidad Newsday


AS PART of its Football /Youth and Community Development Initiative, the newly formed St James Football and Youth Development Association (St James FYDA), will usher in a new era for minor league football in Trinidad and Tobago, with the launch of its revolutionary Goal Points Football League (GPFL).

The historic event is scheduled to take place at the St James Infirmary Recreation Ground on Sunday, June 29 from 3 pm. The new league will initially involve 12 teams from St James and environs and will see the introduction of the innovative Goal Points System, from which the name of the league was derived.

“It was on the premise of offering more game incentive for the teams themselves, by increasing the tangible value of every game — win, lose or draw — and in the process, also dramatically increasing the entertainment value for the fans, that the idea evolved,” stated Alison Ayres, the St James FYDA General Secretary and the brainchild behind the new Goal Points System. The initiative will also include a youth programme targeting a 6 to 16 age group.

Unlike the existing points awards system where the points that are to be awarded at the end of a game are pre-determined by the final result, the Goal Points System will see the introduction of quarter point bonuses, for a specific amount of goals scored by either team during the course of a game.

This will see the points to be awarded at the end of a game being determined by the final number of goals either team scores during the game, making for very intriguing and exciting matches.

With the new Goal Points System, there will be a maximum four points on offer for a win as against the current three, a maximum two points on offer for a draw as against the current one, while teams will now also benefit for goal scoring losses.

“With the primary objective of the game being scoring goals, which is also what the fans want to see, the feeling is that this new points system could provide the impetus for the relentless pursuit of this objective by opposing teams, during the course of an entire game.

“The system is therefore designed to encourage and reward goal scoring, while in effect, rendering the “Consolation Goal” a thing of the past.” Ayres said.

He says he hopes that the Goal Points System will be adopted by minor leagues throughout Trinidad and Tobago, with a view to establishing a Minor League Champions Cup, an idea that has already been officially endorsed by national football icons Russell Latapy and Dwight Yorke.

The St James FYDA has as its president former national player Nigel Pierre, vice-president Wendell Stephen, Youth Development Director Milton Archibald and Nigel Corentin, Treasurer.

Teams wishing to participate in the inaugural Goal Points Football League can contact 769-9862 or 715-8731 to obtain their official application for entry into the competition.

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2008, 09:26:51 AM »
Milton Archibald ??
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2008, 09:57:02 AM »
Milton Archibald ??
       Are you asking a question here or you already know who Milton is? he has been doing work with this program for some years now,it's good to see Cocorite stepping up to the plate to get these kids some recognition,a lot of quality players were generated from that league,it's one of the minor leagues you just had to play in,people like Janet Ifil and Rudy Roberts should take a lot of credit for keeping Football alive in that area.

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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2008, 12:13:50 PM »
St James FYDA launches new football league
Trinidad Guardian


AS PART of its Football/Youth & Community Development Initiative, the newly formed St James Football & Youth Development Association (St James FYDA), will usher in a new era for minor league football in T&T, with the launch of its revolutionary Goal Points Football League (GPFL).

The historic event is scheduled to take place at the St James Infirmary (Poor House) Recreation Ground on Sunday June 29 from 3pm.

The new league will initially involve 12 teams from St James and environs and will see the introduction of the innovative Goal Points System, from which the name of the league was derived.

“It was on the premise of offering more game incentive for the teams themselves, by increasing the tangible value of every game win, lose or draw and in the process, also dramatically increasing the entertainment value for the fans, that the idea evolved,” stated Alison Ayres, the St James FYDA General Secretary and the brainchild behind the new Goal Points System.

The initiative will also include a youth program targeting a 6 to 16 age group.

Unlike the existing points awards system where the points that are to be awarded at the end of a game are predetermined by the final result, the Goal Points System will see the introduction of quarter point bonuses, for a specific amount of goals scored by either team during the course of a game.

This will see the points to be awarded at the end of a game being determined by the final number of goals either team scores during the game, making for very intriguing and exciting matches. With the new Goal Points System, there will be a maximum four points on offer for a win as against the current three, a maximum two points on offer for a draw as against the current one, while teams will now also benefit for goal scoring losses.

Ayres continued:“With the primary objective of the game being scoring goals, which is also what the fans wants to see, the feeling is that this new points system could provide the impetus for the relentless pursuit of this objective by opposing teams, during the course of an entire game.

The system is therefore designed to encourage and reward goal scoring, while in effect, rendering the ‘Consolation Goal’ a thing of the past.”

Ayres expressed hope that the Goal Points System will be adopted by minor leagues throughout T&T, with a view to establishing a Minor League Champions Cup, an idea that has already been officially endorsed by national football icons Russell Latapy and Dwight Yorke.

The St James FYDA has as its President former national player Nigel Pierre, Vice President Wendell Stephen, Youth Development Director Milton Archibald and Nigel Corentin Treasurer.

Teams wishing to participate in the inaugural Goal Points Football League can contact 769-9862 or 715-8731 to obtain their official application for entry into the competition.

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2008, 06:35:56 PM »
Cocorite get back on track. . . Great to see. ;D
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2008, 10:54:26 AM »
Are there cash incentives in these minor leagues? Has anyone addressed why the players feel the need to play in these leagues? If is just a sweat then they not training often enough.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2008, 11:00:27 AM »
because dey are ball hoes !
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2008, 11:03:26 AM »
this should be coined 'the hardest law'.
         

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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2008, 11:57:47 AM »
this should be coined 'the hardest law'.

Yeah boy that man get fired on a "hardest"
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2008, 12:26:20 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2008, 12:39:15 PM »
Pro League is wuk

Minor League football is glory & fun

In many cases, more crowds does show up for some Minor League Football games dan at Pro League games

De Pro League teams have a point as they payinthese players and have dem under contract, but it interestin dat all de comments in dis article comin from Pro League Owners and Coaches.  No comment from de players.

Players want to get paid but also want to have fun at what they do.  In it's current environment, the Pro League CANNOT COMPETE with some Minor Leagues in terms of intangibles.

How they might treat the players

De community feel

De weed, beers, cash wit no tax, girls etc compensation


Minor League Football plays an important role in de overall landscape of T&T football.  While I again state dat de Pro League has a point, I fear dat dey jes ups and decide to ban players rather than maybe trying to come to some sort of compromise.  Ask de players why dey insist on playin Minor League football and what can be done so dat is a kinda win win for all.

We not England and dem places so while we can BORROW from their model, we cyah take everyting wholesale and implement it. 

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Re: T&T Pro League says no to "Bandit league' players
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2008, 12:51:49 PM »
Yuh spot on  Palos. PL football needs to recapture that excitement, community feel and spontaneity that football in T&T used to have.They just model the league on European standards and the product dry dry dry. The Republican convention have more soul than a typical PL match.

This is a marketing problem, exactly where PL administration does fall flat. They need to identify a core consumer base and really work hard to bring them in.
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Re: T&T Pro League says no to "Bandit league' players
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2008, 01:17:03 PM »
I see no reason to implement a law for this.

Players need to be professional and commited to their career and the club, if they chose to go and sweat just find a new player to take their place.

now you want to find a man 6 months salary and thing.
These things will take care of themself

unless the players get mature enough to be professional the big brother attitude will not work.

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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2008, 01:18:53 PM »
I really have to give my two cents here,the thing is people want to have their cake and eat it,Palos is a man does talk about times change and i totally agree with that,is either we want to change or stay where we are,we want to compare ourselves with the best players,clubs,leagues in the world but we want to play Minor league,if Minor league Football was helping us we would not be having problems with local and foreign based players,i totally agree with the Coaches and the Pro league for taking this stand,if people want to see these players let them pay,the only reason these guys playing there is because they making extra money,Minor league is not fun any more that's how it used to be back in the day,players today are jokers and talking about being respected,i'll continue to say we are acting like amateurs in a professional world,it's easy to point fingers at the administration but it's very difficult when you are dealing with amateurs.

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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2008, 01:23:11 PM »
Well said Coop's ...I'm glad to see the proleague taking that stance and actually being professional especially since there is a whole liability factor when players get injured in those games.

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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2008, 01:29:11 PM »
I know pre season this year a few of the south colleges coaches had to threaten intercol players with not making the teams to stop them from playing minor league football.

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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2008, 01:56:54 PM »
Its one thing to insist that players understand their obligations as professionals to their clubs. But its entirely another thing for a professional league to be such a dismal failure in paying players what they are worth.

Just clamping down on minor league participation will NOT solve the problems the league is facing. It is the abysmal markeing effort of administration that is robbing these players of future earnings and making them look outside the league. With more $$$ from gate receipts and concessions these teams will be able to afford better salaries and better facilites so men can get a decent shower and not have to bathe under standpipe after a game.

Should the players be brought under heavy manners for reneging on aspects of their contracts...YES. Is the pro-league doing enough, including expanding their consumer base and revenue  to make sure the players are compensated for their efforts....NO. They can't even pay their referees.

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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2008, 02:29:51 PM »
Watch how the Pro League players go want FPATT help now  :devil: :devil:

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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2008, 03:14:36 PM »
Guys,
            I agree wih Coops on this matter. I know the so-called "bandits" get under-the-table mony to play. But what if the get a injury like Kj or Cornell playing for a minor league team what is the club supposed to do. I know the clubs don't pay big money. It is an either/or situation. Either play with the bandit team with no medical or play with the PFL.

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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2008, 03:45:59 PM »
So leh we say because dey went and STILL play minor league football, yuh ban

Cornell Glen

Aurtis Whitley

Hayden Tinto

Keon Daniel

Yuh cyah ban Hyland because he eh playin fuh nobody

What den?  Where does the Pro League put a stop to it?

Do you ban players from playing Minor League Football only?  Only if players gettin PAY yuh go ban dem but fete match is ok?  Or fete match ban too?

Wha bout a WIPA vs Strike Squad charity match and some a dese players get invite as guest players?  They could get injured dey too no?

Or how about de Christmas Mornin sweat by de community centre?  Men could damage a ankle, tear a ACL dey etc.  Dat gettin ban too?


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