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Farc rebel link files 'genuine'
« on: May 15, 2008, 08:38:01 PM »
How coincidental is it that US military forces are presently in Trinidad "building schools"

International police agency Interpol says Colombian officials did not tamper with computers which they claim provide proof Venezuela financed Farc rebels.

The hard drives were purportedly seized after a raid on a rebel camp in Ecuador at the beginning of March.

Although Interpol certified the authenticity of the files, not their contents, correspondents say their tests add credence to Colombian claims.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez dismissed the allegations.

Both Venezuela and Ecuador say that any contacts with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc) were solely made as part of a humanitarian effort to free hostages held by the left-wing guerrillas.

Authenticity confirmed

Colombian forces attacked the Farc camp located just across the border in Ecuador on 1 March.

The computers they seized contain files which, according to Bogota, show that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez was personally involved in financing and supplying arms to the rebels.

They also suggest that Ecuador maintained links with the Farc.

The Colombian authorities asked Interpol to check the files after Mr Chavez accused them of faking the documents.

Interpol head Ronald Noble said his team had not analysed the information contained on the drives, as Interpol's remit extended only to certifying the authenticity of the documents, not their contents.

Mr Noble said that deep forensic analyses showed Colombia did not modify, delete or create any files, although it did not always follow internationally accepted methods when handling the computers.

"We are absolutely certain that the computer discs our experts examined came from a Farc terrorist camp," he said.

But he was quick to stress that the fact that the files had not been tampered with did not prove that the information contained within them was totally accurate.

By weighing in and putting its seal of authenticity on the documents, Interpol is in a sense adding much greater credence to the Colombian government's allegations, says the BBC's Americas editor Emilio San Pedro.

Washington has confirmed it believes the files are genuine and that the implications for Venezuela, if it has supported the Farc - which is on the US and European lists of terrorist organisations - could be very serious.

But the files use codes and aliases throughout and nowhere is Mr Chavez mentioned by name.

Senior Farc commander Raul Reyes was among 25 people killed in the attack.

The raid provoked the worst regional tensions in recent years, with Ecuador breaking off diplomatic relations with Colombia.

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Re: Farc rebel link files 'genuine'
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 04:49:33 PM »
Hugo tryin he bess to light ah fire to re-create de cold war eh?

if he play de ass too much De flappers go come and take back  wallerfield and chaguramas....sparrow go hadda make a new song
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Re: Farc rebel link files 'genuine'
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 04:58:58 PM »
Wall Street Journal dedicated some space to him on today's editorial page ... which means ...

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Re: Farc rebel link files 'genuine'
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 05:09:54 PM »
... which means ...

.......Rev Wright 15 mins of fame has expired??
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 11:16:36 AM »
who is he again? :rotfl:

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Re: Farc rebel link files 'genuine'
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 05:56:14 PM »


The armed revolutionary has no place in modern Latin America, the Venezuelan President has declared. Catching his critics off guard, Hugo Chavez called on the Marxist rebel army in neighbouring Colombia to lay down its arms and release its hostages, declaring that guerrilla armies are now "out of place".

Adopting the mantle of international statesman, the Venezuelan President appeared to be stepping forward finally to turn a page of history for a continent that for decades has been blighted by eruptions of insurgent violence, not just in Colombia but also Nicaragua and El Salvador. As most of those conflicts have come to an end, Colombia has been alone in failing to end its own internal strife.

"At this moment in Latin America, an armed guerrilla movement is out of place," Mr Chavez said. "The guerrilla war is history," he asserted in his weekly television address, prompting expressions of both surprise and welcome among government leaders in Colombia. They have recently accused Venezuela of running a clandestine campaign of support for the Marxist rebels.

Mr Chavez is no stranger to the revolutionary mantle. In 1992 his Revolutionary Bolivarian Movement – inspired by the 19th century independence guerrilla Simon Bolivar – made a doomed attempt to overthrow the government. Even now, having made the transition from rebel to politician, Mr Chavez is still the staunchest of supporters of the world's most famous revolutionary, Fidel Castro. Whether his latest comments represent a profound change of heart or not, they may help open a path to long-term peace in Colombia after 40 years of bloodshed.

It is a time of deepening difficulties for Farc, the Spanish acronym for the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, which recently confirmed that its founder and top commander, Manuel Marulanda, also known as "Sureshot", had died of a heart attack at a jungle base in March. It has lost several other members of its top leadership in recent months.

"I think the time has come for the Farc to free everyone they have in the mountains. It would be a great, humanitarian gesture in exchange for nothing. That is what I propose to the new [Farc] leader."

Since the death of Mr Marulanda, who instigated his Marxist-inspired struggle in Colombia with a group of armed peasants in 1964, the group has been led by Alfonso Cano, a man described as being more bookish and potentially more moderate than the man he replaced.

His statement on Sunday marked the first time that the Venezuelan leader had addressed Mr Cano directly. "I say to Cano, let's go. Release those people," Mr Chavez said unambiguously.

Farc is believed to be holding as many as 750 hostages in remote jungle areas of Colombia. For much of its existence, it has relied on taking citizens captive in the hope of extracting large sums in ransom – a practice that became known as "miracle fishing". For years, Colombians lived in terror of Farc roadblocks when any of them could have found themselves snatched from their cars. A few dozen of those still in captivity are considered high-profile hostages. They include three military contractors from the United States and the former presidential candidate, Ingrid Betancourt. Believed to be in poor health, Ms Betancourt holds joint French-Colombian citizenship. Her plight has been the subject of persistent lobbying by the French government for her release.

Since coming to office in 2002, Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe has waged a determined effort to restore order to the country and end civil war. Over four decades, tens of thousands of lives have been lost as Farc battled it out against right-wing paramilitary groups that sprung up to combat its grip on the country as well as government forces.

Last year, he invited Mr Chavez to help mediate with the group for the release of its hostages but withdrew that invitation in November, claiming that the Venezuelan leader was not sticking to his side of the bargain. The breach triggered a deep chill in relations between the two leaders as Mr Chavez loosed a string of derogative remarks about Mr Uribe's competence. Tensions spiked further when a computer belonging to Farc's second-in-command was found, which Colombia said showed Mr Chavez had funnelled $300m (£152m) to the group.

There was no concealing the surprise in Bogota at the switch Mr Chavez seems to be making. "He was their defender and ally and so it's surprising that he has acted like this," said Carlos Holguin, Colombia's Interior Minister. "I hope Farc hears him – that all of Latin America hears him."

Indeed, while Colombia may retain some scepticism about Mr Chavez's motives, its government also knows that Farc has a long history of ignoring all outside appeals for an end to its struggle. However, Mr Chavez, who has been leading his own "socialist revolution" in Venezuela, may be the one leader able to bring influence on them.

In his statement, Mr Chavez offered a reason of his own to bring Farc's campaign to an end, pointing to the US. "You in the Farc should know something," he offered. "You have become an excuse for the empire to threaten all of us." He often uses the term "empire" to refer to the United States. Washington has made no secret of its desire to isolate Mr Chavez from other governments in Latin America.

A revolutionary region

*Caracas' most famous son, Simon Bolivar, led the charge in Hispanic America's struggle for independence. He is remembered across Central and South America as El Libertador after defeating the Spanish colonialists, and establishing the Gran Colombia federation in 1821 that would bring independence to Venezuela, Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador and Panama.

*Mexico's revolution began with a letter. Thrown in jail in 1910 for declaring his intention to run against the dictator of 30 years Porfirio Diaz, Francisco Madero issued a note from his cell calling for revolt. A bloody decade of civil war ensued.

*Guatemala's 'October Revolutionaries' – a group of dissident military officers, students and liberals – struck in 1944, overthrowing the military junta that had ousted dictator Jorge Ubico. Guatemala was to experience a decade of change known as the "Ten Years of Spring".

*Aided by Ernesto "Che" Guevara, Fidel Castro landed in eastern Cuba in 1956 and over the next two and a half years rolled his '26th July Movement' across the country and into Havana, toppling the US-backed Fulgencio Batista in 1959.

*Nicaragua's Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza dynasty in 1979. They lost elections in 1990, but returned to power in 2006 with the former guerrilla leader Daniel Ortega once more at the helm.

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Re: Farc rebel link files 'genuine'
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 05:59:16 PM »
Colombia's defence minister has welcomed a call by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez for Farc rebels to end their four-decade struggle.

Mr Chavez, whom Colombia has accused of financing Farc, had earlier said the group was "out of step" and called on them to release all their hostages.

He urged Alfonso Cano, Farc's new leader, to "let all these people go".

Colombian Defence Minister Juan Manuel Santos welcomed the comments as long as they were "translated into action".

"Our fundamental strategic objective is that our neighbours collaborate in the fight against terrorism," said Mr Santos.

He said the move meant that Colombia and Venezuela would be able to renew their ties, to the benefit of both nations.

The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc) hold many hostages, including about 40 high-profile captives they say they want to swap for imprisoned rebels.

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The rebels are believed to be at their weakest point in years, following the death of their long-time leader, Manuel Marulanda, in March.

In his weekly television and radio programme on Sunday, the Venezuelan president said ending the rebellion could lead to a peace process between the rebels and the Colombian government.

"The guerrilla war is history," he said. "At this moment in Latin America, an armed guerrilla movement is out of place."

Colombian Interior minister Carlos Holguin said the statement from Mr Chavez was "surprising" as the Venezuelan leader had been "a great defender and ally of the guerrillas".

But Mr Holguin added: "It's great, and I hope Farc hears him."

BBC Americas editor Emilio San Pedro says the message represents an about-face for Mr Chavez, who a few months ago called on the world to regard Farc as a legitimate army rather than a terrorist group.

Our correspondent says Mr Chavez's critics will wonder whether this change is related to allegations by Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe - who accused Mr Chavez of giving the rebels $300m (£150m).

Releases negotiated

In March Colombia said it had found documents on a computer that proved Venezuela funded Farc.

The computer was seized during a raid on a Farc camp in Ecuador, in which another senior Farc leader, Raul Reyes, was killed.

Venezuela said any contacts with Farc were solely made as part of a humanitarian effort to free hostages.

The captives include Franco-Colombian politician Ingrid Betancourt and three Americans.

Earlier this year Mr Chavez negotiated the release of two key hostages, Clara Rojas and Consuelo Gonzalez.

Late last year his official mediation role was terminated by Mr Uribe, who said Mr Chavez had overstepped his responsibilities.

Farc is the oldest and largest group among Colombia's left-wing rebels - and is one of the world's richest guerrilla armies.

It was founded in 1964 when it declared its intention to use armed struggle to overthrow the government and install a Marxist regime.

But like most of the paramilitary groups in Colombia's 40-year civil conflict, it has become increasingly involved in the drug trade.

Colombia is known as the "kidnap capital of the world", with one person a day, down from 10 a day in 2002, being snatched either for ransom or political bargaining.

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Re: Farc rebel link files 'genuine'
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 06:04:31 PM »
BBC had a special on this afternoon about kidnapping in Colombia. The authorities there have worked to decrease kidnapping to 10 % of the 3000 a year high. The police across there look Like Trinidad SF.  The Minister of Defense was saying that the decrease occured because the government made security a strategic national priority and they invested significant resources to train and equip the security forces.

 

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