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Re: Game vs England: We wearing Black!
« Reply #420 on: May 05, 2008, 02:16:26 PM »

Nah, ah doh think yuh have to hurt somebody to get dey attention, more like, by adopting a passive agressive stance to Encourage them to do their job or fulfil their mandate...cause we can't fire or remove them therefore we have to educate ourselves on what are the other alternatives, and let them know we are considering them...they may or may not work, but it seems what we do, wheter supporting, blindly or knowlegably just hasn't been working over the last few years, regardless of who we play or where we have been, historically or within the unpredictable future.

...by taking a stance that is likely to bring international shame/pressure on them, while having a minimal possibility of hurting our football in the long run.

Bakes, our football has been already hurting for a long run, regardless of the reasons. Is not now we have blacklist, or players not getting their dues, or Government, corporate sponsors getting rip off, or International coaches not getting paid, or the TT public being jammed 'ticket or leave it'.
Yet, I don't get why such a stance would bring 'International shame/pressure', the things the TTFF & Jack have said and done, on the International scene, to this day, and dey didn't have no shame, yuh think we could shame them ?
Our impotency in dealing with our own social situations - regardless of the powers that be -  are more than likely issues that will cause more Intl embarrasments than a simple football stance. We went thru a holding of Government as hostages, shooting a prime Minister, Convicting and robbing of treasury (O'Hallaran eg) by goevrnment official, extremely High Criminal activities, etc..etc.. and we still Happy like Pappy, and we go cause shame cause probably 300-400 ppl didn't attend a game to make a statement ? I think not.

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Re: Game vs England: We wearing Black!
« Reply #421 on: May 05, 2008, 02:28:38 PM »
well...I have been reading all these comments and trying to digest some of the really deeep arguments for and against. My poor brain - anyway, at the end of the day I think that going to the game is best for OUR players- they need our support- not so? Yes I will wear black, and everybody I get a ticket for will agree to wear black- and I feel if a large number of us are wearing black instead of white, OUR boys will know that we are supporting them.
That's who I think will benefit. Who cares about the TTFF? What we need to do as a supporters group is to support the players.
The FPATT will then (if they live up to their promises) take that support and turn it to their advantage.
By the way- did I see somebody mention FPATT has black jerseys?
where do we get them?

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Re: Game vs England: We wearing Black!
« Reply #422 on: May 05, 2008, 02:33:43 PM »
Bakes, our football has been already hurting for a long run, regardless of the reasons. Is not now we have blacklist, or players not getting their dues, or Government, corporate sponsors getting rip off, or International coaches not getting paid, or the TT public being jammed 'ticket or leave it'.
Yet, I don't get why such a stance would bring 'International shame/pressure', the things the TTFF & Jack have said and done, on the International scene, to this day, and dey didn't have no shame, yuh think we could shame them ?
Our impotency in dealing with our own social situations - regardless of the powers that be - are more than likely issues that will cause more Intl embarrasments than a simple football stance. We went thru a holding of Government as hostages, shooting a prime Minister, Convicting and robbing of treasury (O'Hallaran eg) by goevrnment official, extremely High Criminal activities, etc..etc.. and we still Happy like Pappy, and we go cause shame cause probably 300-400 ppl didn't attend a game to make a statement ? I think not.

Wait...I not following you. Are you saying that Jack and the TTFF cannot be shamed into dealing right with the players? If that's the case then why even bother with a boycott? You really think that gate receipts amount to any kind ah money for the TTFF relative to sponsorship and broadcasts rights?

To talk about the other 'social issues' affecting Trinidad and the effect or lack thereof on our national pride is to unnecessarily conflate the issue, because Jack Warner and his cronies aren't running Trinidad. Let's keep the discussion in it's proper perspective attacking this specific problem in a manner such that we strike at an area of vulnerability. My position is that given the magnitude of the opposition and given the prominence of the stage (200 BBC 'journalists', mind you) this would be an ample time to bring further attention and publicity to the TTFF's activities, and to let the footballing world know that we are not a passive people content to sit back and accept whatever is handed to us as our lot. This can be achieved in my mind thru both proposals...I just don't think the boycott is necessary. On the one hand to seem to endorse one course of action...yet on the other you seem to embrace defeatism by saying nothing can force them to change. But you don't see this as being contradictory.

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Re: Game vs England: We wearing Black!
« Reply #423 on: May 05, 2008, 02:35:24 PM »
By the way- did I see somebody mention FPATT has black jerseys?
where do we get them?


Not to speak for them, but sometime in the near future...they're only now getting their hands on some money so they should be coming fully online with products and activities within the next couple months.

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Re: Game vs England: We wearing Black!
« Reply #424 on: May 05, 2008, 03:09:51 PM »
again nah not contradictory.... we want them to change their modus operandi, but we have been unsuccessful in crying for the changing of the guardians. Yuh follow meh ? I would like Jack, Camps, and their personal assistants to take ah side, but since we have no control of that, I hoping we can change how they think. operate or view the TT public and our players (FPATT for instance) with respect if nothing else... true respect, can go a long way to our own development. ..I agree with you however, the social issues are possibly for a another forum, another talk, yet I kinda view the total football issues (as well as all sports) as part of a whole make-up of our society.... As I said, though the majority would go, I would stand outside, and let the players and anybody who interested know, I there for them, and those after them...I want to see the boys handle deyself bad-bad too, and I not saying is the thing everybody could do, i just saying is what I feel may have to be done, and so I will hope I make the right decision..Will it work, I doubt, but I will still try..
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add: doh say how I contradicting eh, how ah want to go the game, but ah not going  :D

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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #425 on: May 05, 2008, 03:17:45 PM »
Is the confirmation number and the order number the same thing?
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #426 on: May 05, 2008, 03:26:01 PM »
Is the confirmation number and the order number the same thing?

Should be...
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Tickets.
« Reply #427 on: May 05, 2008, 04:15:04 PM »
Ppl i need a bit of enlightening. Is the ticket system a first come first serve type of thing or is it a lottery system that selects ppl at random? i wud really like to get that clarified so i cud put my mind at ease.

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Re: Tickets.
« Reply #428 on: May 05, 2008, 05:00:15 PM »
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Re: Tickets.
« Reply #429 on: May 05, 2008, 05:04:17 PM »
whatever u doing do it quick, on d news headlines they say almost have gone aready
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #430 on: May 05, 2008, 05:06:41 PM »
Almost half the tickets sold in a few hours so far today, so hurry up if u aint do it yet
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #431 on: May 05, 2008, 05:08:54 PM »
Almost half the tickets sold in a few hours so far today, so hurry up if u aint do it yet

how you know that?

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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #432 on: May 05, 2008, 05:12:16 PM »
Almost half the tickets sold in a few hours so far today, so hurry up if u aint do it yet

how you know that?

news headlines on tv6
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #433 on: May 05, 2008, 05:13:20 PM »
Is the confirmation number and the order number the same thing?

Should be...


You sure about that I thought that they were going to email it to you???

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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #434 on: May 05, 2008, 05:14:51 PM »
Almost half the tickets sold in a few hours so far today, so hurry up if u aint do it yet

how you know that?

news headlines on tv6


shit...  das good though    at least i organise my tix

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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #435 on: May 05, 2008, 05:17:24 PM »
Almost half the tickets sold in a few hours so far today, so hurry up if u aint do it yet

how you know that?

news headlines on tv6


shit... das good though at least i organise my tix

You got yours over the net right???


Did you get a confirmation number or just an order number ??

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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #436 on: May 05, 2008, 05:17:51 PM »
All yuh crash dis site u know how long I tryin 2 see how tings progressing wit d posse.
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Re: Tickets.
« Reply #437 on: May 05, 2008, 05:18:54 PM »
whatever u doing do it quick, on d news headlines they say almost have gone aready

Waaaaaay! People doh stick boy. Dem better have my three ready and waiting.
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #438 on: May 05, 2008, 05:20:24 PM »
Is the confirmation number and the order number the same thing?

Should be...


You sure about that I thought that they were going to email it to you???

I received an email and the email said Order Number. Same thing.
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Re: Tickets.
« Reply #439 on: May 05, 2008, 05:20:50 PM »
whatever u doing do it quick, on d news headlines they say almost have gone aready

Waaaaaay! People doh stick boy. Dem better have my three ready and waiting.

yuh know, if i aint get mine, is cuss
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #440 on: May 05, 2008, 05:21:59 PM »
Almost half the tickets sold in a few hours so far today, so hurry up if u aint do it yet

how you know that?

news headlines on tv6


shit...  das good though    at least i organise my tix

You got yours over the net right???


Did you get a confirmation number or just an order number ??

i get order no
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #441 on: May 05, 2008, 05:24:45 PM »
can anyone confirm if order number is all you need???
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #442 on: May 05, 2008, 05:27:37 PM »
can anyone confirm if order number is all you need???

How yuh wa' we confirm it? Dise what everybody getting.

When yuh go to collect, tell them the order numbr and provide the ID you used to make the reservation.

They better be accepting US driver's licences.
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Re: Tickets.
« Reply #443 on: May 05, 2008, 05:28:58 PM »
It sound like 1st come 1st serve as I get my order number and d man say come Hasely and collect so I goin Hasely and collect so deh betta doh get me upset
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Re: Ticketing information for the T&T vs England June 1.
« Reply #444 on: May 05, 2008, 05:30:58 PM »
They discussin it on TV6 now


EDIT : that was a waste



why these people dont explain exactly wah goin on
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Re: Are Warrior Nation members getting tickets to the England game?
« Reply #445 on: May 05, 2008, 05:34:06 PM »
We get blank but we callin and on d site so we go b dey some in black some in white but we go b dey
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Re: Tickets.
« Reply #446 on: May 05, 2008, 05:34:57 PM »
It sound like 1st come 1st serve as I get my order number and d man say come Hasely and collect so I goin Hasely and collect so deh betta doh get me upset

I walking with some tires in de trunk ah mih car just in case I have to burn some to protest dat ah eh get mih tickets....
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Re: Are Warrior Nation members getting tickets to the England game?
« Reply #447 on: May 05, 2008, 05:37:12 PM »
But just imagine dat Weary....it have people on dis site doh miss ah game but have to through de same pressure like everybody else!!!...and all yuh still debating whether or not to wear black to de game...damn foolishness!!!
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Re: Tickets.
« Reply #448 on: May 05, 2008, 05:38:39 PM »
Oh and Clarke I just check de ttff website and dey still have $300.00 and $600.00 tickets....act fast!!!
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Re: Tickets.
« Reply #449 on: May 05, 2008, 05:41:13 PM »
Oh and Clarke I just check de ttff website and dey still have $300.00 and $600.00 tickets....act fast!!!

boy i have my tickets since 8:00:01 am today. what u tellin me bout act fast lol. i acted already.