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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2008, 08:09:47 AM »
Clearly nobody can stop this man,we seem to forget who he is the fifa vice president and that ent no joke where football is concerned,no government can tell him what to do,so as it stands he has everybody by the balls,this rollercoaster ride is not for the weak but for those who see reality for what it is,and if better can't be done let the worse continue.

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I've had this question on my mind since Jack went up for elections. Isn't the football federation of a country supposed to be separate and apart from government; and shouldn't this include the opposition too. Isn't making Jack a special adviser still conflicting these rules when he is the one calling all the shots and holding the press conferences.



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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2008, 08:12:19 AM »
2 wrongs dont make a right.... allyuh miss understanding meh....

I am NOT in support of Jack Warner, so get that clear, my point is, we cannot stop him whether we get de stadium or not, wether we qualify or not... simple as that... Hunt trying, Lasana, Jennings, blacklisted players, FPATT all tried and still Jack not even bugging.... allyuh eh realise that....

I supporting de team..... I expect Hunt to do the same, because who really getting affected, not Jack, not me, not you,,,,, but de players.

At de same time, maybe he should be able to negotiate de fee for de stadium depending on the game etc, but I support the government stand NOT to fund the TTFF...... because let Jack use all the money he made on T&T football and use it on our campain..... to
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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2008, 08:15:14 AM »
Man carry d games on Mars 4 all I care Hunt just doh blink
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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2008, 08:21:39 AM »
well well well, jack flip the script, for all the ex-pats in the US and canada, looks like we finally seeing tt live and on tv :devil: ah sorry for my people in tt and its terrible it have to come like this but ill tell allyuh something if tt play a wcq in giants stadium it will sell out, you will see a bigger crowd for tt against any team than home in tt. Jack will make a killing bc the ex-pats will come to see this game, hell tens of thousands will drive down from canada to ee the bloody game, jack call trump, hunt call bush.

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De question TI is if you go drive down to see the game? Listen nah... One of dem Jamaica posters say something de other day that rings theough... THe National team needs the support of its people and that might have had a big part to play in their lack luster performance. THey performed just like de crowd performed. If this was Jacks reason for moving the games I would call him a patriot. But we all know better dont we. No blasted Flag to walk in de game with and not a blasted CD of de National Anthem... Is de little things I does look at so the Team go have to understand that whilst the supporters attitude in attending was lack-luster and seeming like we was not supporting them in actuallity I believe then, more than ever, they got the support of the people. So TI support yuh warriors and stay away from de Stadium.

Hit Jack where it hurts in de pocket. Nothing else phases Jack. He like a cockroach... yuh flit over here he go find another hole to run too.. No more flit leh we just clean de house and ensure no crumbs around de place. Let de cockroach starve because then and only then will we really be taking back we football. Then and only then will we be really supporting we warriors. Is it important enough for Jack to try to re-enlist the dot-listed troops?... The good news is that though Jack might be a good business man, he  also lacks humility.. he is a proud and shrewd man so he going down to de end with his opinion. GOOD.

I am making a declaration... Dont bring back de dot listed players JACK. Stand yuh ground like a man we just have to stand we ground also and let de bastard fall.

Yesterday man was talking about "I go take what I can get" de dam cockroach even take dat away today so what crumbs allyuh go try to get now... crumbs is for ants... We is Trinbagonians dammit. Trick-i-dadians to some. So we go trick his ass out of power.
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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2008, 08:23:00 AM »
let me ask allyuh a dumb question here... this could be a new thread, but I so fed up of the vitriolic glut on the board i will post this question here.

Ah want allyuh to take off allyuh goggles and for one second put aside that burning will to see an axe put to Jack's proverbial money tree. Also, I want you'll to put aside all the talk about 'how it works' in the first world countries wherever you sitting and posting from and try to operate within the context of the current situation in Trinidad and Tobago. The question is....

WHAT MAKE ALLYUH THINK THE T&T FOOTBALL FEDERATION CAN BE SELF SUFFICIENT?
         

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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2008, 08:23:10 AM »
well well well, jack flip the script, for all the ex-pats in the US and canada, looks like we finally seeing tt live and on tv :devil: ah sorry for my people in tt and its terrible it have to come like this but ill tell allyuh something if tt play a wcq in giants stadium it will sell out, you will see a bigger crowd for tt against any team than home in tt. Jack will make a killing bc the ex-pats will come to see this game, hell tens of thousands will drive down from canada to ee the bloody game, jack call trump, hunt call bush.

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I think you are over exagerating.  I have driven to all of the World Cup qualifiers Trinbago played on the East Coast in the last 12 years, whether it was in Virigina on a cold ass Sunday or Boston on a hot Wednesday or Conneticut and those games were played in much smaller stadiums, they were no where close to being sold out.  As for ex-pats driving down from Canada, that might happen if the game is in Buffalo but please do not try to pull the comforter folks in Trini eyes that Canadans travel well to games T&T play in the US.  All yuh did not travel in no big numbers for any of those games or if you did, you were stopped at the border.

The average fan in de US also might not be as rabid to view a game when our standard has taken a drop from the World Cup team.  As for the Latin American fans, I suspect that in out home games in the US, we will be the minority.  Is that good??

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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2008, 08:24:48 AM »
well well well, jack flip the script, for all the ex-pats in the US and canada, looks like we finally seeing tt live and on tv :devil: ah sorry for my people in tt and its terrible it have to come like this but ill tell allyuh something if tt play a wcq in giants stadium it will sell out, you will see a bigger crowd for tt against any team than home in tt. Jack will make a killing bc the ex-pats will come to see this game, hell tens of thousands will drive down from canada to ee the bloody game, jack call trump, hunt call bush.

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I think you are over exagerating.  I have driven to all of the World Cup qualifiers Trinbago played on the East Coast in the last 12 years, whether it was in Virigina on a cold ass Sunday or Boston on a hot Wednesday or Conneticut and those games were played in much smaller stadiums, they were no where close to being sold out.  As for ex-pats driving down from Canada, that might happen if the game is in Buffalo but please do not try to pull the comforter folks in Trini eyes that Canadans travel well to games T&T play in the US.  All yuh did not travel in no big numbers for any of those games or if you did, you were stopped at the border.

The average fan in de US also might not be as rabid to view a game when our standard has taken a drop from the World Cup team.  As for the Latin American fans, I suspect that in out home games in the US, we will be the minority.  Is that good??

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TI yuh close - is not the TT based crowd he after alone.... the multiple of Latin Americans is where the $$ will be made
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1) Jack has probably negotiated with US soccer Federation and other officials to get venues here for next to nothing
2) He can charge alot more money for tickets in the USA
3) Since its a home game, gate receipts will be TTFA's
4) If the game is held in USA, there will be more total fan turnout, because of the large latin american populations here
5) We still need to beat Bermuda

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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2008, 08:26:51 AM »
Omar ask yuhself how much money d TTFF does get from FIFA plus with a lil accountability is d govt of TNT accountability is a joke but with JW is a bad joke. This in conjunction with a lil sponsorship and u go c dat dey cries of no money is dat just a cry
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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2008, 08:30:41 AM »
let me ask allyuh a dumb question here... this could be a new thread, but I so fed up of the vitriolic glut on the board i will post this question here.

Ah want allyuh to take off allyuh goggles and for one second put aside that burning will to see an axe put to Jack's proverbial money tree. Also, I want you'll to put aside all the talk about 'how it works' in the first world countries wherever you sitting and posting from and try to operate within the context of the current situation in Trinidad and Tobago. The question is....

WHAT MAKE ALLYUH THINK THE T&T FOOTBALL FEDERATION CAN BE SELF SUFFICIENT?

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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2008, 08:32:41 AM »
i dont blame jack cause alyuh idiots in trini dont go to d qualifiers only big games so take it abroad untill alyuh appriciate d dam sport, not only when big team come inn, but for all d games
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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2008, 08:33:14 AM »
let me ask allyuh a dumb question here... this could be a new thread, but I so fed up of the vitriolic glut on the board i will post this question here.

Ah want allyuh to take off allyuh goggles and for one second put aside that burning will to see an axe put to Jack's proverbial money tree. Also, I want you'll to put aside all the talk about 'how it works' in the first world countries wherever you sitting and posting from and try to operate within the context of the current situation in Trinidad and Tobago. The question is....

WHAT MAKE ALLYUH THINK THE T&T FOOTBALL FEDERATION CAN BE SELF SUFFICIENT?

mo, a good gauge for how things could be is how things were in the pre-Jack era.

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« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2008, 08:34:08 AM »
well well well, jack flip the script, for all the ex-pats in the US and canada, looks like we finally seeing tt live and on tv :devil: ah sorry for my people in tt and its terrible it have to come like this but ill tell allyuh something if tt play a wcq in giants stadium it will sell out, you will see a bigger crowd for tt against any team than home in tt. Jack will make a killing bc the ex-pats will come to see this game, hell tens of thousands will drive down from canada to ee the bloody game, jack call trump, hunt call bush.

God is de BOSS...
I think you are over exagerating.  I have driven to all of the World Cup qualifiers Trinbago played on the East Coast in the last 12 years, whether it was in Virigina on a cold ass Sunday or Boston on a hot Wednesday or Conneticut and those games were played in much smaller stadiums, they were no where close to being sold out.  As for ex-pats driving down from Canada, that might happen if the game is in Buffalo but please do not try to pull the comforter folks in Trini eyes that Canadans travel well to games T&T play in the US.  All yuh did not travel in no big numbers for any of those games or if you did, you were stopped at the border.

The average fan in de US also might not be as rabid to view a game when our standard has taken a drop from the World Cup team.  As for the Latin American fans, I suspect that in out home games in the US, we will be the minority.  Is that good??

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breddah i see a youth team with no big names play a yard team in lamport stadium and it draw close to 12000 people in toronto, jw will want stadiums in the areas where there is a high concentration of trinis, when has trinidad ever played in new york, a wcq with a full national team? when they ever play in miami? or DC? TT always playing in the areas where there isnt a high trini concentration bc the US soccer federation knows that if they play in new york the US fans will be outnumbered. But you are right about the latin americans but i doubt JW will want to play outside a city that doesnt have the high concentration of trinis, only if we playing mexico of course.

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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2008, 08:40:26 AM »
As much as I will feel it for the young ones coming up who need the exposure to get contracts abroad, I am resigned with this one. A four year wait to see another T&T team might do everyone a world of good. Alot could change in four years time. Including the swansong of that man.

Who would have thought this would be where our football would be at two years ago today? Sad, sad, sad.
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« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2008, 08:44:50 AM »

"I want the people and public of Trinidad and Tobago to keep the faith," the T&TFF special adviser exclaimed, " We will qualify, believe me!"




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« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2008, 08:51:09 AM »
As much as I will feel it for the young ones coming up who need the exposure to get contracts abroad, I am resigned with this one. A four year wait to see another T&T team might do everyone a world of good. Alot could change in four years time. Including the swansong of that man.

Who would have thought this would be where our football would be at two years ago today? Sad, sad, sad.

What I think you and others fail to realise, is that its going to be a lot longer than 4 years.

Allyuh grossly underestimating this man's vindicativeness.
         

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« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2008, 08:53:33 AM »

WHAT MAKE ALLYUH THINK THE T&T FOOTBALL FEDERATION CAN BE SELF SUFFICIENT?

1) why every other FA could achieve self-sufficiency and not us?

2) who is to say that TTFF isn't self-sufficient already?  you really willing to take them at their word when they release their numbers? or when they don't release their numbers?
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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2008, 08:54:44 AM »
As much as I will feel it for the young ones coming up who need the exposure to get contracts abroad, I am resigned with this one. A four year wait to see another T&T team might do everyone a world of good. Alot could change in four years time. Including the swansong of that man.

Who would have thought this would be where our football would be at two years ago today? Sad, sad, sad.

What I think you and others fail to realise, is that its going to be a lot longer than 4 years.

Allyuh grossly underestimating this man's vindicativeness.

No, you need to understand where I'm coming from. It bad to hope for someone's demise, but as Angelina say "... kill one to save a thousand".
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« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2008, 08:59:51 AM »
He can take the team to the moon but he cannot use the name Trinidad and Tobago. If him he use the name, the govt  should sue FIFA and Jackass Warner for name infringement. Who the Fk this jackass think he is. Please bring you game to Giant Stadium the new york formites gwan fix is wagon. I personally will pay for a flyby, with a sign mark " Tiefing Jackass Warner" to pass out the stadium.
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« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2008, 09:02:44 AM »
He can take the team to the moon but he cannot use the name Trinidad and Tobago. If him he use the name, the govt  should sue FIFA and Jackass Warner for name infringement. Who the Fk this jackass think he is. Please bring you game to Giant Stadium the new york formites gwan fix is wagon. I personally will pay for a flyby, with a sign mark " Tiefing Jackass Warner" to pass out the stadium.

see you at the game family and the other 30 000 trinis or more, after we beat bermuda i already looking to book a ticket  :devil:

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« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2008, 09:06:44 AM »
Well who didn't know before, now know that JW never cared bout Trinbagonian football and Fans. Imagine he prefere to pay $180,000 TT - $250,000TT to use Giants Stadium. In other words let's contribute to the US ecomony - f**k T&T, and he's suppose to have or country interest in hand (which hand?).  :rotfl:

I disagree... f00ck Hunt and f00ck the T&T government, let the USA or who ever else get de money, why should it go back to T&T when they are NOT doing anything to help our football, imagine we own players cant even play in we national stadium.... no other country will do this to they own players.. When we made it to the world cup, T&T on a whole look good, from de people to de government, to de players and federation.... de government was quick to congratulate de team and support them AFTER we qualify.... they wasn't studing Jack Warner then....

And to add to this, I am sure FIFA will fund it (away games for T&T), not the TTFF......

Put everything aside and help the T&T players and not spite we sportmen and women because of Jack Warner... I hate the TTFF and Jack Warner but I still support T&T football teams....

We can also benefit from hosting the women's world cup and the government is NOT helping or co-operating. FIFA even supplying 10million to us to host the women championships... and not a word from our stinking government....

Come on man....

Youre trying to say that paying for accomodations in America and renting giants stadium is more cost efficient than paying to use Hasely Crawford? Bull.

Jack Warner is a stubborn prick who is hijacking our football because he's mad Hunt stood up to him, and that the fans of T&T are standing up to him.

I say let Jack go, and the players stay behind with the fans and people of T&T. We will forfeit our games for not showing up but Jack will look like an ass and we might rid him for good.
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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2008, 09:09:12 AM »
well well well, jack flip the script, for all the ex-pats in the US and canada, looks like we finally seeing tt live and on tv :devil: ah sorry for my people in tt and its terrible it have to come like this but ill tell allyuh something if tt play a wcq in giants stadium it will sell out, you will see a bigger crowd for tt against any team than home in tt. Jack will make a killing bc the ex-pats will come to see this game, hell tens of thousands will drive down from canada to ee the bloody game, jack call trump, hunt call bush.

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so you tink flippin the script will fix the issues?....This is not about man playin in Giants Staium or the Orange Bowl boss or Hardest or Guerra gettin a sweat....it much bigger.
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« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2008, 09:10:16 AM »

All yuh wait and see...US getting JW CONCACAF votes.....it's all in the JW 'Ticket or Leave It' Package
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« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2008, 09:15:25 AM »
He can take the team to the moon but he cannot use the name Trinidad and Tobago. If him he use the name, the govt  should sue FIFA and Jackass Warner for name infringement. Who the Fk this jackass think he is. Please bring you game to Giant Stadium the new york formites gwan fix is wagon. I personally will pay for a flyby, with a sign mark " Tiefing Jackass Warner" to pass out the stadium.

see you at the game family and the other 30 000 trinis or more, after we beat bermuda i already looking to book a ticket  :devil:

God is de BOSS....

Fittingly contradicting....

A BS statement ended with a devil and then yuh top dat off with God is de boss...

I got one too.. In God we trust.  Look for it on de back of de US dollar bill,  right before Jack take it from yuh.. Jack go be laughing then... laughing at you.
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« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2008, 09:15:53 AM »

WHAT MAKE ALLYUH THINK THE T&T FOOTBALL FEDERATION CAN BE SELF SUFFICIENT?


They not and probably will never be.

They will not/can not put in the amount of $ Jack has put in, in years gone by.

Right now we between a rock and a hard place in more ways than one.

If Jack decide to leave TTFF to their own devices and all TTFF has to reply on is Gary Hunt well we might be worse off than we are now.


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« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2008, 09:16:18 AM »
So, from a netural's perspective, let me get this straight. Wouldnt it cost just as much, or even more to secure the services of say a Meadowlands Arena, in terms of rental fee, groundsmen, security etc, than it would cost for the 10% rental fee for the Hasely Crawford stadium?

I suppose this has shed new light on the man's personality...You would rather deprive your people of the chance of sharing in their national teams world cup glory, just so you can avoid giving up ten cents in a dollar.

By the way, the JFF has to pay rental fee for use of the national stadium in Kingston too, they have to foot the electricity bill for the massive light pilons that illuminate the stadium...My point is, 10% of gate reciepts in my mind is not exhorbitant. And to take the football team from the T&T people just because you dont want to give 10% of gate reciepts seems counter-productive to me.

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« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2008, 09:23:57 AM »
He can take the team to the moon but he cannot use the name Trinidad and Tobago. If him he use the name, the govt  should sue FIFA and Jackass Warner for name infringement. Who the Fk this jackass think he is. Please bring you game to Giant Stadium the new york formites gwan fix is wagon. I personally will pay for a flyby, with a sign mark " Tiefing Jackass Warner" to pass out the stadium.

see you at the game family and the other 30 000 trinis or more, after we beat bermuda i already looking to book a ticket  :devil:

God is de BOSS....

Fittingly contradicting....

A BS statement ended with a devil and then yuh top dat off with God is de boss...

I got one too.. In God we trust.  Look for it on de back of de US dollar bill,  right before Jack take it from yuh.. Jack go be laughing then... laughing at you.

money is material to me breddah, yuh cant take it to heaven so really i dont really care, its the satisfaction i will get from seeing our national team and supporting, jw in the fold years now and man complaining, but which person stepping up to the plate to put out their money to invest in we football? i ent seeing any takers, for the while i will support because for instance tt play cuba in miami, guess who filling the stadium? cubans, we play the guats, guess who coming out? guatamalans and of course the us in la or foxboro, so really, why shouldnt i go and see my team, either way jw making a killingm with or without us and who taking actions to stop him, so far no one, hunt just delaying the process.

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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2008, 09:26:00 AM »
As much as I will feel it for the young ones coming up who need the exposure to get contracts abroad, I am resigned with this one. A four year wait to see another T&T team might do everyone a world of good. Alot could change in four years time. Including the swansong of that man.

Who would have thought this would be where our football would be at two years ago today? Sad, sad, sad.

What I think you and others fail to realise, is that its going to be a lot longer than 4 years.

Allyuh grossly underestimating this man's vindicativeness.

No, you need to understand where I'm coming from. It bad to hope for someone's demise, but as Angelina say "... kill one to save a thousand".

this is idealistic thinking to say the least.

I despise Warner as much as everyone but I'm not blind to the reality of the situation as it stands.

The government is powerless to influence anything that goes in the federation. The federation is powerless to make any change and their sole purpose is to pander to the wims of Warner. Even the one avenue for recourse, FIFA, are a waste of time to do anything, because Jack is FIFA.

So for all the complaining going on, I see no solution put forward and that is because there is none.

when people can take the wool off their eyes and try to understand that the way football is set up, there is no avenue to remove Jack Warner, then we can start looking for ways and means to work in unison for the betterment of our football.

'kill one to save a thousand' is a nice line for a poem. But in truth and in fact, at best you might only hurt the one and end up hurting the thousand even more.
         

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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2008, 09:27:49 AM »
TI talking so much shit here it hurting meh eyes... steups
         

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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2008, 09:31:28 AM »
He can take the team to the moon but he cannot use the name Trinidad and Tobago. If him he use the name, the govt  should sue FIFA and Jackass Warner for name infringement. Who the Fk this jackass think he is. Please bring you game to Giant Stadium the new york formites gwan fix is wagon. I personally will pay for a flyby, with a sign mark " Tiefing Jackass Warner" to pass out the stadium.

see you at the game family and the other 30 000 trinis or more, after we beat bermuda i already looking to book a ticket  :devil:

God is de BOSS....

Fittingly contradicting....

A BS statement ended with a devil and then yuh top dat off with God is de boss...

I got one too.. In God we trust.  Look for it on de back of de US dollar bill,  right before Jack take it from yuh.. Jack go be laughing then... laughing at you.

money is material to me breddah, yuh cant take it to heaven so really i dont really care, its the satisfaction i will get from seeing our national team and supporting, jw in the fold years now and man complaining, but which person stepping up to the plate to put out their money to invest in we football? i ent seeing any takers, for the while i will support because for instance tt play cuba in miami, guess who filling the stadium? cubans, we play the guats, guess who coming out? guatamalans and of course the us in la or foxboro, so really, why shouldnt i go and see my team, either way jw making a killingm with or without us and who taking actions to stop him, so far no one, hunt just delaying the process.

God is de BOSS....

not surprising... yuh is a EX-pat right.....Yuh sound proud.... Yuh dont have to drive from Canada it have a WAGON leaveing from your town. It go pick up all de WAGGONIST so yuh could save yuh money... but then that is only material anyway.
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Re: Warner: No W/Cup games here!
« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2008, 09:35:37 AM »
de real reason TI want games tuh play in NA, is so he couldgo tuh all dem games and after every game Hardest go t'row him he sweaty jersey after the game. steuuuuupes!

 

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