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Maturana continues to mystify
« on: July 10, 2008, 05:53:54 AM »
Maturana continues to mystify
...From Guerra to Glen
Lasana Liburd

Thursday, July 10th 2008

Francisco Maturana was a winner on the football field again on Tuesday night with a 2-0 triumph against Guyana at Marvin Lee Stadium, Macoya.

It was his sixth win from ten matches since inheriting the post of Trinidad and Tobago head coach. But the performance, against a disinterested Guyanese team-already eliminated from the 2010 World Cup qualifiers-would have done little to convince football stakeholders that he could produce a squad to match Leo Beenhakker's 2006 outfit.

If there are doubts over the Colombian's leadership, his inconsistent philosophy and dodgy scouting are nearing farcical levels.

It took him six games to work out that schoolboys Jamal Gay and Akeem Adams were better off left to develop with the national under-20s. He needed three more matches to spot the potential of versatile W. Connection midfielder Clyde Leon, who made his international debut two years ago but saw Maturana use four different holding players before turning to him.

Leon scored the opener with an audacious long-range effort in the eighth minute, while Keon Daniel got the second after an accomplished individual showing playing behind the lone striker, Cornell Glen.

But it was Glen's charges down the channels-between opposition full back and central defenders-that were a breath of fresh air and the Warriors' most potent weapon on Tuesday night.

Maturana claimed to have full knowledge of the 2006 World Cup players yet it was Glen's first game for the Colombian.

Does Maturana also know that Glen has not played a competitive domestic match since May?

Glen has ditched Pro League outfit Ma Pau and spends his time training with former employers, CLICO San Juan Jabloteh, who he cannot even represent in Reserve matches. He is expected to rejoin Jabloteh when the transfer window opens in August.

Wait until Coventry City discard, Chris Birchall, hears about this.

Perhaps Maturana has finally grasped that Trinidad and Tobago's limited talent pool does not allow for the haphazard replacement of capable players.

If Glen's selection means such a shift in policy, one hopes the Colombian has not left it too late.

But, arguably, the most damning indictment against Maturana's reign thus far never got on the pitch. His name is Ataullah Guerra, but it may well have been Osama Bin Laden judging from the national coach's apparent fear of unleashing the 20-year-old talent.

Maturana, almost from inception, showed a fondness for babysitting duties as he summoned a litter of rookies into his training squad. Yet his treatment of Guerra has been so appalling that perhaps Jabloteh may consider a call to the relevant child protective services.

Economy North East Stars impressive climb up the T&T Pro League standings was rewarded on Tuesday with 45 minutes each to their midfielders Akeil Guevara and Anthony Wolfe-the latter was also a 2006 World Cup squad member.

Striker-cum-midfielder Kerry Noray also got 16 minutes despite his belated start to the 2008 season with bmobile Joe Public. Â

No such luck for the lone representative from the present Pro League leaders and defending champions, Jabloteh.

Guerra has made just two substitute appearances under the present regime, against Grenada and Barbados, for a grand total of 23 minutes.

Worse still, the technical staff is stubbornly silent regarding the slight on the John John resident.

Tall and graceful with a good turn of pace and decent shot, Guerra is the reason why Jabloteh did not lose sleep over releasing gifted but temperamental playmaker and national captain Aurtis Whitley last season.

His appreciable technique aside, Guerra, like most Jabloteh employees, cannot be faulted for desire to retrieve possession when off the ball.

It seems an indication of some potential. Only the head coach appears lukewarm to the idea.

Maturana, who formerly harnessed the likes of Colombian legends Carlos Valderrama and Faustino Asprilla, should know a good player when he sees one. But then his selection policy thus far, under the watch of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (T&TFF), has fluctuated more than a teenage girl in a shoe store.

From Guerra to Glen, Maturana's philosophy continues to mystify.
"Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority.  The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong.  All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who doubted current moral values, not of men who tried to enforce them."

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Re: Maturana continues to mystify
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 06:01:15 AM »
Aye Socachatter....yuh doh be on dis side of de forum much...wha breeze blow yuh??  ;D

Anywho, ah feel we really goh have to put up some money and get Lasana ah body guard....
As usual, good article Lasana....contiue to ask de questions!!!... :beermug:
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Re: Maturana continues to mystify
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 06:02:51 AM »
ah blaming it on the rain   :D 
"Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority.  The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong.  All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who doubted current moral values, not of men who tried to enforce them."

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Re: Maturana continues to mystify
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 06:06:31 AM »
It took him six games to work out that schoolboys Jamal Gay and Akeem Adams were better off left to develop with the national under-20s. He needed three more matches to spot the potential of versatile W. Connection midfielder Clyde Leon, who made his international debut two years ago but saw Maturana use four different holding players before turning to him.
Ah tink Leon made his debut four years ago as a substitute vs Guyana. His first start was against Japan two years ago.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 06:46:38 AM »
Thanx Lasana.... Keep on these people tail non stop... T&T football can be such a sad thing sometimes...

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2008, 06:58:25 AM »
and yet another reporter for the same newspaper wrote about the same game with the outlook of positive changes and the drives through the middle etc.
they always say if 3 people see the same incident you'll get 3 different accounts
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 07:31:05 AM »
first is...

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Daniel was the pull stones for the night and ironically it was he who scored TT's second goal. The boy simply lost the ball each time he had it, fell down, made the wrong choice of pass or just get a jam or make a pretty flick to no one.  It is funny how the ball follows the players who are having a bad game and time after time he simply was not up to the task. However, he must be congratulated for giving TT a much needed cushion.

and then is...

Leon scored the opener with an audacious long-range effort in the eighth minute, while Keon Daniel got the second after an accomplished individual showing playing behind the lone striker, Cornell Glen.

who to believe?  :-\

just goes to show... beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.


         

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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2008, 07:51:08 AM »
first is...

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Daniel was the pull stones for the night and ironically it was he who scored TT's second goal. The boy simply lost the ball each time he had it, fell down, made the wrong choice of pass or just get a jam or make a pretty flick to no one.  It is funny how the ball follows the players who are having a bad game and time after time he simply was not up to the task. However, he must be congratulated for giving TT a much needed cushion.

and then is...

Leon scored the opener with an audacious long-range effort in the eighth minute, while Keon Daniel got the second after an accomplished individual showing playing behind the lone striker, Cornell Glen.

who to believe?  :-\

just goes to show... beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.


Omar, i doh see much difference in the 2 quotes. When I read Lasana's comment, I interpreted the "accomplished individual showing" to be the play that resulted in the goal, not Daniel's play throughout the match. Touches also congratulated him for his efforts on that specific play. But daiz just my interpretation
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2008, 08:05:32 AM »
first is...

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Daniel was the pull stones for the night and ironically it was he who scored TT's second goal. The boy simply lost the ball each time he had it, fell down, made the wrong choice of pass or just get a jam or make a pretty flick to no one.  It is funny how the ball follows the players who are having a bad game and time after time he simply was not up to the task. However, he must be congratulated for giving TT a much needed cushion.

and then is...

Leon scored the opener with an audacious long-range effort in the eighth minute, while Keon Daniel got the second after an accomplished individual showing playing behind the lone striker, Cornell Glen.

who to believe?  :-\

just goes to show... beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.


Omar, i doh see much difference in the 2 quotes. When I read Lasana's comment, I interpreted the "accomplished individual showing" to be the play that resulted in the goal, not Daniel's play throughout the match. Touches also congratulated him for his efforts on that specific play. But daiz just my interpretation

nah, i'm almost 100% sure that reference is for his performance throughout the game...  (note the "playing behind the lone striker".. thats not limited to that single play, its a description of his role throughout).

but anyhow, its like ann3boys said, 2 people could watch the same game and see entirely different things.
         

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Re: Maturana continues to mystify
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2008, 08:09:36 AM »
first is...

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Daniel was the pull stones for the night and ironically it was he who scored TT's second goal. The boy simply lost the ball each time he had it, fell down, made the wrong choice of pass or just get a jam or make a pretty flick to no one.  It is funny how the ball follows the players who are having a bad game and time after time he simply was not up to the task. However, he must be congratulated for giving TT a much needed cushion.

and then is...

Leon scored the opener with an audacious long-range effort in the eighth minute, while Keon Daniel got the second after an accomplished individual showing playing behind the lone striker, Cornell Glen.

who to believe?  :-\

just goes to show... beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.



Ah notice he does always big up Keon Daniel, making it sound like he was brilliant. I guess even the unbiased have biases at times.

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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2008, 08:10:17 AM »
but anyhow, its like ann3boys said, 2 people could watch the same game and see entirely different things.

Touches jes have a hate on fuh Keon Daniel... 8)
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2008, 08:18:45 AM »
Omar same way you find Power good...it have no way he could make my fete match team.

Daniel score a decent goal but he ent do nuttin else for the whole game.

Say wha you have to see it for yourself.


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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2008, 08:44:36 AM »
I c dey remove d nonesense Prescott rite
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2008, 08:45:34 AM »
Omar, it was a very good individual goal....other than that....like ah say ah nearly fall asleep at some time during this match....
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2008, 08:49:19 AM »
Ehy Omar...go to the thread soca warriors beat Guyana 2-0

Flex compile my report, Prescott, Lasana and Trujillo

If yuh watch it Trujillio sting them in a nice articulate way.

I say they play shit

Lasana wondering bout selection doing expose

and Prescott say they play good and Maturana schooling in public and getting ready for bigger fish.

Pick yuh tonic  ;D


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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2008, 09:12:24 AM »
as far as i am concerned the onl highlights of the match was phillips keeping a clean sheet and the re-emergence of leon in the holding mid position, keon could get replaced by guerra and hardest who are much more capable

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2008, 09:55:18 AM »
keon could get replaced by guerra and hardest who are much more capable

God is de BOSS....

Other than this game, Keon plays wide left midfield for T&T.  Neither Guerra nor hardest play that position.
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2008, 10:04:00 AM »
Actually palos, Jemmot did start off playing on the left wing for T&T was was better than Daniel at it..

Ask the Costa Rican and Ecuador fans, Maturana is kaka !!!!! how do you say that in Spanish.... SHITA !!!!!

Boss write up Lasana.... you continue to go above and beyond, unlike our press oficer who we cant even get a full report from...  :angel:
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2008, 10:39:22 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2008, 10:41:42 AM »
It difficult 2 reemploy a man who have yuh in court 4 breech of contract
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2008, 11:10:31 AM »
Actually palos, Jemmot did start off playing on the left wing for T&T was was better than Daniel at it..

And Beenie had all kinda man playing out of position on the left - Theobald, Whitely, Spann, Rahim etc.  so why can't Hardest or Guerra try a ting? 
We haven't had a pure left winger hold down a regular spot on the team for quite some time...bring back Evans Wise!

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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2008, 11:26:01 AM »
[We haven't had a pure left winger hold down a regular spot on the team for quite some time...bring back Evans Wise!

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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2008, 11:45:12 AM »
Omar same way you find Power good...it have no way he could make my fete match team.

Daniel score a decent goal but he ent do nuttin else for the whole game.

Say wha you have to see it for yourself.


Palos...you like ting eh  ;)

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Daniel play real garbage..... Is games like these he must dominate if he wants to own that hole behind the the strikers. To me is either he or Hyland but not both.
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2008, 11:56:58 AM »
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bring back Evans Wise!
  Ah think you forgot to put  :rotfl: at the end of the statement...
Please say you was joking.... That would be the most unwise decision Anton ah mean Maturana would make

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2008, 12:28:40 PM »
Actually palos, Jemmot did start off playing on the left wing for T&T was was better than Daniel at it..

And Beenie had all kinda man playing out of position on the left - Theobald, Whitely, Spann, Rahim etc. so why can't Hardest or Guerra try a ting?
We haven't had a pure left winger hold down a regular spot on the team for quite some time...bring back Evans Wise!
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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2008, 01:29:34 PM »
 There now seems to be a skewed slightly biased systemic  randomly and seemingly irrational selection  process for the selection of skilled players to the national team.

You either have to be Maturana men or Coneals croonies or Jack's jesters
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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2008, 05:26:42 PM »
Not even d Corneals dat dotish re: wise so if dey did not get d million how much did dey get?
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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2008, 08:41:42 PM »
Thanx Lasana.... Keep on these people tail non stop... T&T football can be such a sad thing sometimes...

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