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« Reply #3120 on: November 21, 2012, 07:53:12 AM »
Benitez is boo.

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« Reply #3121 on: November 21, 2012, 09:02:55 AM »
And Mark Hughes still have a wuk...   :yellowcard:
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« Reply #3122 on: November 21, 2012, 11:13:30 AM »
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« Reply #3123 on: November 21, 2012, 11:20:39 AM »
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« Reply #3124 on: November 21, 2012, 11:31:07 AM »
Now dey trying to bring back de Drogs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/21/chelsea-didier-drogba-china-loan
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« Reply #3125 on: November 21, 2012, 12:28:50 PM »
Forkin circus! When will they start firing players instead of managers?  Whoever take this job crazy to think the outcome will be different.

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« Reply #3126 on: November 21, 2012, 12:38:40 PM »
Sacked Chelsea managers: Roman Abramovich's other victims

Roberto Di Matteo is the latest Chelsea manager to be removed from his post by the club's Russian owner Roman Abramovich, but what happened to his predecessors?



Just six months ago Di Matteo led Chelsea to the Champions League. Here we look at his predecessors in the Chelsea hotseat and what became of them:

Claudio Ranieri (September 2000 to May 2004)

Life under Abramovich: The first manager to spend Abramovich's billions was under pressure from day one amid rumours Sven-Goran Eriksson was being lined up to replace him. The "Tinkerman" tag did not help the Italian and, despite finishing second in the Premier League and reaching the Champions League semi-finals, he was sacked.

Life after Abramovich: Returned to his former club Valencia, immediately winning the European Super Cup, but was sacked six months later. Has won nothing since, despite landing prestigious jobs at Parma, Juventus, Roma, and Internazionale. Currently managing Monaco in France's second tier.

José Mourinho (June 2004 to September 2007)

Life under Abramovich: Declared himself the "Special One" and completely lived up to the moniker, becoming the most successful Chelsea manager ever. Immediately ended their 50-year wait for a league title with back-to-back Premier League crowns and also won the FA Cup and two Carling Cups. Champions League glory remained elusive and a power struggle with Abramovich eventually saw him leave.

Life after Abramovich: Heavily linked with the England job before eventually resurfacing at Internazionale. One of the most successful managers in their history, he became only the third coach to win the European Cup with two different clubs. Now at Real Madrid where he became the first man to win league titles in England, Italy and Spain, although Champions League success currently evades him in the Spanish capital.

Avram Grant (September 2007 to May 2008)

Life under Abramovich: Less than two months after arriving as Chelsea's director of football, Grant found himself parachuted into the manager's role. Speculation was rife he did not have the backing of the dressing room but still managed to get the club to their only Champions League final up until then. Also reached the Carling Cup final and finished second in the Premier League before he was sacked.

Life after Abramovich: History repeated itself as Grant joined Portsmouth as director of football in October 2009, once again becoming manager less than two months later. Boosted his reputation by leading the side to the FA Cup final despite administration saga that saw them relegated. Resigned and joined West Ham but was sacked after they were also relegated.

Luiz Felipe Scolari (July 2008 to February 2009)

Life under Abramovich: Billed as the man to inspire Chelsea to take the final step in the Champions League, the World Cup-winner enjoyed a flying start but things soon began to go wrong amid rumours of dressing room unrest. The timing of the Brazilian's sacking after just seven months still came as shock.

Life after Abramovich: Made surprise decision to move to Uzbekistan and join the champions Bunyodkor, although the salary reportedly made him one of the highest-paid managers around. Left after less than a year and returned to former club Palmeiras, but recently lost his job.

Guus Hiddink (February 2009 to May 2009)

Life under Abramovich: Still revered by players and fans for rescuing Chelsea's season while combining the Russia job with a caretaker role at Stamford Bridge. Won the FA Cup and was desperately unlucky not to reach the Champions League final, Hiddink lost only one game in charge.

Life after Abramovich: Continued as Russia boss until June 2010, leaving after failing to lead them to the World Cup. Became Turkey manager but left in November after losing another play-off, this time for the European Championships. Persistently linked with a return to Chelsea after Carlo Ancelotti was sacked before joining the mega-rich Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala in February.

Carlo Ancelotti (June 2009 to May 2011)

Life under Abramovich: Recruited largely because of two Champions League successes at Milan, instead delivered Chelsea's first ever double in his first season. Nevertheless, his reputation was damaged by losing in the Champions League last 16, and a trophyless season followed.

Life after Abramovich: Linked with several jobs in England and abroad, December saw him appointed manager of the big-spending Ligue 1 leaders Paris Saint-Germain.

André Villas-Boas (June 2011 to March 2012)

Life under Abramovich: Arrived in London to a splash of publicity and dubbed the new Mourinho after a stellar spell in charge of Porto, which took in domestic and European titles. Cracks soon emerged, though, with senior players reportedly baffled by his methods and unhappy with his selection policy. He was sacked after a defeat at West Brom.

Life after Abramovich: Returned to English football in the summer when he replaced Harry Redknapp at Tottenham. Domestic form has been mixed, with a memorable victory at Manchester United the highlight and punishing derby defeats to Arsenal and Chelsea the lows.
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Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« Reply #3127 on: November 21, 2012, 01:19:00 PM »
Daiz madness to bring in Benitez.

Yesterday the tactics was madness even more so after the first goal and then nutten changed after the first half.  RDM played it a little to cool I feel.
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« Reply #3128 on: November 21, 2012, 01:26:33 PM »
Now listenin to 96, dem fellas singing "dere is no more di matteo" in a guantanamera soundtrack,  :rotfl:
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« Reply #3129 on: November 21, 2012, 01:28:01 PM »
Benitez. Confirmed. Interim manager until end of the season
http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/2987554/title/benitez-appointed
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« Reply #3130 on: November 21, 2012, 01:34:12 PM »
I gettin fed up ah dis shit oui..........anyway d team I loved gone now.......personnel wise.........and dis shit makin it hard to stay interested steups
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« Reply #3131 on: November 21, 2012, 01:50:43 PM »
Just madness! It just goes to show they did not want to hire him in the first place.
But he pull a rabbit out the hat in CL & they had no choice.
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« Reply #3132 on: November 21, 2012, 02:47:47 PM »
Absolute madness!!

The team is not even playing poorly, basically there are 2 problems right now both very fixable.

1. Torres... They should really just cut their losses and realize that this man is not the player they bought and move on from that.

Correction... Torres is EXACTLY the player Chelsea bought. 

David Ephraim also has it right in my book, the Benitez move is nothing more than Abramovitch refusing to admit that he bad spend on waste man Torres, and now he grasping at Spanish straws to try and save face.  Torres attitude start tuh stink the last six months at Liverpool, basically since he return from the WC.  I dunno if was lack of confidence coming off injury (his first real extended injury spell of his career), I think it shake him and he was never really comfortable pushing himself after that.  Then at the WC he get treated like an afterthought which I think further mess up he head.  He get disillusioned quick with Liverpool, right or wrong, and decide to rush off glory hunting to Chelsea thinking all he needed was a change in scenery without addressing the demons in his head.  Well, now we seeing where the fault lay all along.

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« Reply #3133 on: November 21, 2012, 02:57:23 PM »
Just madness! It just goes to show they did not want to hire him in the first place.
But he pull a rabbit out the hat in CL & they had no choice.

Agree with you and Big Mag here... I think they always wanted a bigger name.  Benitez is a space holder... he have until the end of the season to conjure up some magic with Torres, then it's onto the next.

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« Reply #3134 on: November 21, 2012, 04:54:04 PM »
What a f**kin shambles.  :puking:

Hopefully we continue the trend and fire that fat f**ker after we lose to City on Sunday. Watch how we will boo him this weekend...no Chelsea fan can stand him.

And as mediocre as Torres is (and always will be)...lets not forget that Chelsea have had no problems scoring goals this season. We've scored 45 goals in 19 competitive games this season. The problem is purely defensive, largely the result of our less defensive minded attacking quartet.
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« Reply #3135 on: November 21, 2012, 05:02:41 PM »
What a f**kin shambles.  :puking:

Hopefully we continue the trend and fire that fat f**ker after we lose to City on Sunday. Watch how we will boo him this weekend...no Chelsea fan can stand him.

what wrong wit dat fuuckin russian boy....no fuuckin patience or honor for that matter jeezan ages
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« Reply #3136 on: November 21, 2012, 05:21:12 PM »
Chelsea main problem is the owner.
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« Reply #3137 on: November 22, 2012, 11:05:15 AM »
Clattenburg not charged. Obi Mikel charged with abusing and threatening Clattenburg.

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« Reply #3138 on: November 22, 2012, 12:17:10 PM »
So they make up the racial abuse claim? Lol. Stay classy
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« Reply #3139 on: November 22, 2012, 02:20:21 PM »
Clattenburg not charged. Obi Mikel charged with abusing and threatening Clattenburg.

So you did really expect them to charge Clattenberg? Which of the 4 refs stepping up to back up what Jon Obi say? The FA is one big bunch ah jokers, they eh much different from the TTFF.
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« Reply #3140 on: November 23, 2012, 02:56:01 PM »
So you did really expect them to charge Clattenberg? Which of the 4 refs stepping up to back up what Jon Obi say? The FA is one big bunch ah jokers, they eh much different from the TTFF.

Nah Elan, yuh tripping.  Obi never even accuse Clattenburg of anything, is Ramires who say he hear Clattenburg call he team mate ah monkey... something which nobody else, not even other Chelsea players nearby (certainly not Obi) could confirm.

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« Reply #3141 on: November 23, 2012, 03:13:59 PM »
So you did really expect them to charge Clattenberg? Which of the 4 refs stepping up to back up what Jon Obi say? The FA is one big bunch ah jokers, they eh much different from the TTFF.

Nah Elan, yuh tripping.  Obi never even accuse Clattenburg of anything, is Ramires who say he hear Clattenburg call he team mate ah monkey... something which nobody else, not even other Chelsea players nearby (certainly not Obi) could confirm.

ramires???  he could talk english?   for that matter he could understand English english??

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« Reply #3142 on: November 23, 2012, 04:03:14 PM »
It seemed like it was one big misunderstanding...

From what I understand, Mikel was haranguing the referee after the bad decisions, and the referee said something to the effect of "I don't give a monkey's ass"... Standard British speak..

Ramires with a limited understanding of English heard this and tell Mikel, "hoss yuh eh hear that man call yuh ah monkey ass"... And Mikel trip off and gone and gunta Clattenburg in the dressing room after.

All in all that's understandable, and it is instructive that the FA acknowledges that Ramires claim was made in "good faith".. It's also instructive that Mikel is not being charged for making the claim, but he's being charged for his behavior to the ref in the dressing room.

Where Chelsea went wrong here was to go public with the allegation instead of following a more guarded course of action.. But in the heat of the moment, feeling rightly aggrieved at the calls that went against them and the outcome of the game, they wild out. No issue if they face consequences for the way in which they handled the affair, but the actual incident itself seems like it was a gross misunderstanding.
         

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« Reply #3143 on: November 24, 2012, 06:51:15 PM »
Roman Abramovich: everywhere and nowhere as Chelsea turn toxic
Chelsea have had unprecedented success under the Russian but they are fast losing admirers

Owen Gibson
The Guardian, Friday 23 November 2012 18.02 EST



The Chelsea owner, Roman Abramovich, embraces John Terry after the club won the
Champions League in Munich. Photograph: Owen Humphreys/PA


At Stamford Bridge, Roman Abramovich is everywhere and nowhere. When Rafael Benítez was unveiled in a suite named after the man who captained Chelsea to their only league title of the pre-Abramovich era, the Spaniard blinked into the flashbulbs alone apart from the club's overworked communications director.

The chief executive, Ron Gourlay, was absent, despite the FA having just announced that the referee Mark Clattenburg had no case to answer over Chelsea's claim that he had racially abused one of their players. Nor was Bruce Buck, their urbane chairman, there to face the music. And, of course, there was no sign of the man who has poured £1bn into Chelsea over the past decade, around £86m on paying up the contracts of sacked managers alone, and who last week wrote off his latest £166m loan.

Abramovich, who will next year celebrate the 10th anniversary of his dramatic arrival as Chelsea's then-unknown new owner, has always let his money do the talking. Not a great deal more is known about his intentions now than it was then.

His fortune, estimated this year at $12.1bn (£7.5bn) by Forbes, has been invested in yachts (including $250m on the world's biggest), fine art, a private jet and homes throughout the world. But, at Chelsea at least, his controversially acquired fortune does not appear to have bought him happiness.

For the first time, pressure on him to break that silence and explain his decisions is coming from the club's fans as well as the media. Where they once sang songs about being "f**king loaded" and clapped along to Russian folk ditties before kick-off, some have begun to feel ambivalent about the dysfunctional way the club is run.

Chelsea, pulled in all directions by the owner's capricious nature and the accompanying pendulum swings in investment, are at once European champions, third in the league, in a state of perpetual revolution and under fire from all sides. Abramovich is a constant presence at the Bridge on matchdays, but satisfaction remains elusive – witness his expression in May when, having won the European Cup, he awkwardly embraced the man it is now clear he never really wanted as manager.

At various points during the Russian's tenure, Chelsea have claimed progress in moving towards a sustainable model and a semblance of normality in their executive structure. Just last week, they announced they had recorded a profit for the first time under Abramovich – albeit before last summer's splurge on talent including Oscar and Eden Hazard.

At various points, the rhetoric sounded convincing. But over the past year, it has seemed ridiculous. The owner's effect on Chelsea's hierarchy resembles nothing so much as Rupert Murdoch's empire during the period when his former lieutenant Andrew Neil referred to it as "the court of the Sun King", with underlings endlessly trying to second guess his desires at several steps removed.

Thirteen months have passed between the complaint that John Terry called Anton Ferdinand a "f**king black c**t" during a match against QPR and the Football Association deciding there was no evidence to support the claim that Clattenburg racially insulted Mikel John Obi. During that time, Abramovich has employed three managers.

They took in a debilitating legal saga that ended with the FA finding their captain guilty of racially abusing an opponent, their lowest league finish of the Abramovich era, the brutal sacking of two managers, and the usual summer whirl of activity in the transfer market at a net cost of £71.5m. Somewhere in the midst of all that, Chelsea enjoyed their greatest ever triumph in lifting the European Cup on a heady night in the Allianz Arena. Six months later, it is little exaggeration to say they are back at square one.

Internally, the club's power structures are strangely opaque. Abramovich's PA, Marina Granovskaia, has assumed a pivotal role as the main conduit to the owner on many matters. The technical director, Michael Emenalo, has risen virtually without trace – rapidly promoted from scout to assistant coach to his current post.

At Benítez's unveiling, he repeatedly referred to Emenalo's key role as the conduit to the owner on footballing matters: "The main thing is that I have spoken to Michael Emenalo, the technical director, and he's my link. I like to speak about football with him"


It has reached a stage where the once-lampooned Manchester City, for all the money they too have thrown at players and agents, appear enlightened benefactors in comparison.

City have invested in a systemic plan and an executive structure that should bear fruit long term and limit the potential for future embarrassment. Their Abu Dhabi owners appear to have learned from their mistakes, while Abramovich appears doomed to continue repeating his.

He might reasonably point to the trophies in the cabinet and nine years of unprecedented success, even if the most reliable-long term barometer – league position – appears on a downward tilt. And Chelsea too have invested in infrastructure – in the training ground at Cobham and a state-of-the-art academy, even if the results of the latter have been mixed at best.

But compared to their rivals for the upper berths of Deloitte's annual football finance revenue league table – both Manchester clubs, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Arsenal – there does not appear to be anything resembling a strategic plan.

How could there be when it is run according to one man's whims? The Russian's penchant for micro-management at his football club seems at odds with his hands-off attitude to the rest of his remaining business portfolio, which includes stakes in steel giant Evraz and mining firm Highland Gold.

Eight managers in six seasons, and the inevitable accompanying upheaval, is part of the story. But he has ended up not much further forward – Claudio Ranieri, the original "dead man walking", managed second in the Premier League and the semi-final of the Champions League in Abramovich's first season.

Abramovich famously fell in love with football after watching Manchester United beat Real Madrid 4-3 at Old Trafford. If his goal was to create a club that was admired from afar as well as within the confines of Stamford Bridge, he has ended up doing almost the opposite. Never have neutrals been more united in their distaste and even among a minority of season ticket holders there is suddenly talk of protests and boycotts.

On the pitch and off, many of Chelsea's current issues can be traced back to the shockwaves of Abramovich's split with the man who delivered the club's first league titles in half a century. While José Mourinho's team was expensively acquired, it was undeniably his.

That began to shift when Mourinho had Andriy Shevchenko foisted upon him and reached its logical conclusion when Roberto Di Matteo was sacked for failing to get the best out of Fernando Torres. The seven managers who have followed Mourinho have had to work largely with the expensively acquired but mismatched tools they were given. Benítez may again return to the spine of Mourinho's team to provide the steel and focus sorely lacking last week in Turin, leaving the wholesale overhaul of the squad that André Villas-Boas was brought in to initiate still on the drawing board.

Political manoeuverings and an alternative powerbase installed by Abramovich under Frank Arnesen did for Mourinho and ever since the internal machinations in the boardroom Chelsea have been Byzantine in their complexity. Insiders say Gourlay has brought a degree of stability since taking over from Peter Kenyon – but that there is only so much he can do as the ground constantly shifts beneath him. There are ongoing issues surrounding the stadium – with progress over finding a larger, more lucrative alternative to Stamford Bridge stalled – and the string of controversies is in danger of damaging the club's commercial potential around the globe.

All the biggest clubs look to exploit their brands overseas while struggling to comply with Uefa's break even rules; Manchester United are way ahead of the rest and Arsenal believe – rightly or wrongly – that their image is a major selling point. Despite the best efforts of their commercial team, it is becoming harder to see where Chelsea fit in, Kenyon's infamous boast that he would "turn the world blue" notwithstanding.

As Pep Guardiola ponders the situation from New York, it is surely inconceivable that the fallout from the past few weeks has not also registered with him, the real object of Abramovich's desire.

Chelsea would argue that with success comes jealousy. There may be some truth in that, but it does not go nearly far enough to explaining the reasons why they have become most neutral's least favoured team. The last 13 months in particular have been marked by a string of misjudgments, compounded by the lack of structure.

The rancid stench of the Terry incident was not cleared as well as it might have been – with Chelsea refusing to apologise directly to Ferdinand and instead focusing on their "duty of care" to Terry. The same was true on Thursday, when there was no remorse for the difficulties Clattenburg had been through.

Chelsea were right to say they had a duty of care to report Ramires' complaint, but they could have handled the fallout differently. An expression of sympathy would not have been the same as an admission of culpability. It is now understood that Chelsea will make a gesture of reconciliation of some kind towards Clattenburg in an attempt to calm troubled waters, but they are again left looking reactive rather than proactive.

Chelsea have often polarised opinion as a club but there have been times – the swinging Kings Road era of the late 1960s and early 1970s, the Gullit/Vialli/Zola-era, even Carlo Ancelotti's tenure – when they have been considered more warmly. Now the brand appears toxic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/nov/23/roman-abramovich-chelsea-toxic/print
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« Reply #3144 on: November 24, 2012, 06:58:15 PM »
Emenalo's rise... at once admirable, is virtually unprecedented in English football, he's an American-educated outsider who was a laborer on the pitch, toiling in the lower leagues... before joining Chelsea as part of Avram Grant's discredited tenure.  At least Gazidis had some experience running MLS before being elevated over at Arsenal.  I doh begrudge Emenalo his success though, kinda reminiscent of the Trini fella who handling they catering or whatever it is.

Still Rafa on some smartman thing dey lol, he setting up Emenalo fuh all de short-term praise... and de long-term blame.
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« Reply #3145 on: November 25, 2012, 07:27:14 AM »
word on de street is.....Pep Guardiola lookin' to go and coach manu......Abramovich, for all the money in the world, may never be able to attract a good coach to this team.....any more. Not even arsene9 like this much drama.


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« Reply #3146 on: November 25, 2012, 07:33:08 AM »
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« Reply #3147 on: November 25, 2012, 08:33:32 AM »
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Nobody wants a 10days wuk with Chelsea.


I go take it. Make sure the severance terms nice..and run them into the ground. ;D
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Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« Reply #3148 on: November 25, 2012, 10:23:08 AM »
The Chelsea crowd has already welcomed Benitez to the club. In the 16th minute, the crowd honored DiMatteo. A sign praised the Italian's career at the club, and read (from what I remember), "In Rafa, We Will Never Trust."...

Hopefully, Benitez' reign will be this interesting. Perhaps a great run and a title and all will be forgotten..


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Re: CHELSEA FOREVER! - Home of the Champions!
« Reply #3149 on: November 25, 2012, 11:27:27 AM »
Had a fan at the corner flag in the first half holding up a sign "Rafa Out!"... lol

 

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